Florida summers... compared to the northern winters

[Coop63]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

[Aces4]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.


In all honestly, I would rent in a warmer area whether it be TV's or not and break up the winter cold that way. If you find that you absolutely love a certain area after 4-5 years, then considering moving. It's surprising how the shine wears off of something you thought you'd love forever and Florida summers are ridiculously hot.

[dewilson58]

I assume the comparison is cold/snow vs. heat, not tornados vs. hurricanes.


I've lived in the North, during the winter, when I was unable to leave the house for a day or two or three (many times).

I've never been trapped in the house, during the summer, for a day or two or three in Florida.

:ho:

[PugMom]

I assume the comparison is cold/snow vs. heat, not tornados vs. hurricanes.


I've lived in the North, during the winter, when I was unable to leave the house for a day or two or three (many times).

I've never been trapped in the house, during the summer, for a day or two or three in Florida.

:ho:

Dittos

[Aces4]

I assume the comparison is cold/snow vs. heat, not tornados vs. hurricanes.


I've lived in the North, during the winter, when I was unable to leave the house for a day or two or three (many times).

I've never been trapped in the house, during the summer, for a day or two or three in Florida.

:ho:


Then you must leave town during the hurricane hits. We have never been housebound for three days because of snow. This is the year of 2024, not 1950 anymore.

[dewilson58]

Then you must leave town during the hurricane hits.

Read the post and try to add value. :ohdear:

[Aces4]

Read the post and try to add value. :ohdear:

But the value is corrupted.:22yikes: We have friends who live full-time in Florida and they all say the summer heat in murder. At least when it is cold, people can go out during the daytime and don't have to stay housebound. I'm only suggesting the OP consider the downside of full-time Florida living when he could alter his schedule to have it all.

[frayedends]

I'll take swamp ass over these winters any day. Full disclosure, I haven't spent a whole summer there yet. But still, I can jump in a pool or the AC in the house. I'm done with winter. Done.

[Shipping up to Boston]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

What northern winter?!

[Aces4]

I'll take swamp ass over these winters any day. Full disclosure, I haven't spent a whole summer there yet. But still, I can jump in a pool or the AC in the house. I'm done with winter. Done.


You aren't alone, there is a new mindset in our country. We don't tolerate snow, day light savings time, 5 day work weeks, willingness to provide for ourselves... the list goes on and on. We are a long, long way from the generations who settled this country and I doubt we'll ever recover that stamina.

I understand you don't want any cold or snow but the OP doesn't want summers that will boil his butt. To each their own but he is entitled to choices.

[rustyp]

Hands down I would take a northern winter over a Florida summer. It doesn't snow every day. In fact in the mountains the snow is pretty. The change of seasons is wonderful from the nature standpoint and also the activities. Florida summers are relentless. Every day in the 90's and high humidity. There is no escape. And the next frog post will be you stay inside all winter up north while we stay inside during the daytime in FL summer. Well that's not true. Very few days when we weren't enjoying winter - skiing, snowmobiling, ice fishing, ice skating, winter festivals. Even snow blowing has a fun factor about it.

Before you all forget the subject it was do you prefer northern winters over Florida summers. The subject was not do I prefer northern winters over Florida winters.

[npwalters]

Not a direct comparison but just summer in FL information. We have lived here year-round for several years. My wife hates the heat but loves the lifestyle.

In the summer we play golf, pickleball, softball, or do any outside activities in the morning. Usually between about 7 and 10 AM. Then we spend most of the day inside in the AC. I usually go to the pool but she doesn't. Trips in the car or cart to go shopping or whatever are easily done.

We venture back outside for other outdoor activities around 5 or 6 PM. I often play 9 holes of golf in late afternoon but she does not. The late afternoon heat does not bother me.

Hope this helps

[C. C. Rider]

It actually gets hotter in many parts of the mid-west and upper mid-west during summer than it does here in Florida. Yes, we'll get temps of 93* or so on a pretty regular basis during the summer, but temps above 95* or 96* are rare while in the mid-west, they often hit 97* or hotter several times during a typical summer.

Edit to add: A person quickly learns to do their outside summer activities in Florida in early morning when the temps are upper 70's or mid-morning when they are mid 80's. Don't wait til afternoon to start your pickleball or tennis game.

[It's Hot There]

We have never been housebound for three days because of snow. This is the year of 2024, not 1950 anymore.

We have been stuck in a house for three days because of snow & ice and it was not 1950.

chilout

[Michael 61]

I lived full time in Las Vegas for 5 straight years - The summer high reached 115+ on multiple occasions. Florida summers are way more tolerable than the Southwest. (IMO).

[NotGolfer]

Depends on who you talk to here. Having grown up and lived in the Upper Midwest til we moved here 15 yrs ago---it was THE best decision. The saying is (or question)---would you rather shovel sunshine or snow. The last 3 winters we were up north---there were record snow-falls. Had to shovel out first thing in the morning then again to get vehicles in the garage after work. IF you enjoy winters like that---so be it. Here, you can go inside where the "air" is on but the sun may be shining outside. We don't do activities outside during the midday in summer. As for hurricanes....the effects we experience here is wind and rain, not what you see on t.v. news. That's always on the coasts.

[Aces4]

It actually gets hotter in many parts of the mid-west and upper mid-west during summer than it does here in Florida. Yes, we'll get temps of 93* or so on a pretty regular basis during the summer, but temps above 95* or 96* are rare while in the mid-west, they often hit 97* or hotter several times during a typical summer.

Edit to add: A person quickly learns to do their outside summer activities in Florida in early morning when the temps are upper 70's or mid-morning when they are mid 80's. Don't wait til afternoon to start your pickleball or tennis game.

Interesting, what part of the upper mid-west hits temperatures that high regularly every year? Obviously, the OP knows what his summers are like now and likes them. He wants a comparison to Florida summer.

[Aces4]

Depends on who you talk to here. Having grown up and lived in the Upper Midwest til we moved here 15 yrs ago---it was THE best decision. The saying is (or question)---would you rather shovel sunshine or snow. The last 3 winters we were up north---there were record snow-falls. Had to shovel out first thing in the morning then again to get vehicles in the garage after work. IF you enjoy winters like that---so be it. Here, you can go inside where the "air" is on but the sun may be shining outside. We don't do activities outside during the midday in summer. As for hurricanes....the effects we experience here is wind and rain, not what you see on t.v. news. That's always on the coasts.

You may want to be up north now for the winter. Watching the winter this year in Michigan was not bad.

[frayedends]

You aren't alone, there is a new mindset in our country. We don't tolerate snow, day light savings time, 5 day work weeks, willingness to provide for ourselves... the list goes on and on. We are a long, long way from the generations who settled this country and I doubt we'll ever recover that stamina.

I understand you don't want any cold or snow but the OP doesn't want summers that will boil his butt. To each their own but he is entitled to choices.

Well I work about 6 days/week if you include working late on the regular 5. I have provided for myself pretty well considering my plan is to retire in 2 years to my second home in the Villages (at 57 years old). I tolerate daylight savings time (though I wouldn't mind if it went away). But the long winters are dreary and removing feet of snow is getting tiresome even though I'm not quite "old" yet. I don't think my desire to move south turns me into a millennial.

[Arlington2]

If you like winters you may not aclimate well to florida summers. You ought to rent in August to sample the Florida summer. I left Michigan for the sunbelt because I did not like winters. It took a year to aclimate and I had to learn to sweat. I play golf though the summers at various times of the day including mid-day. I would not go back to Mi in the winter and I have no interest in going back in the summer.

[Aces4]

We have been stuck in a house for three days because of snow & ice and it was not 1950.

chilout


I'm sure some older people can't manage conditions and a snowblower but the question is about summers in Florida. Renting is the best of both worlds, much less expensive and easier.

[Aces4]

Well I work about 6 days/week if you include working late on the regular 5. I have provided for myself pretty well considering my plan is to retire in 2 years to my second home in the Villages (at 57 years old). I tolerate daylight savings time (though I wouldn't mind if it went away). But the long winters are dreary and removing feet of snow is getting tiresome even though I'm not quite "old" yet. I don't think my desire to move south turns me into a millennial.

Yeah, the daylight savings time thing cracks me up. People must never travel to different time zones or to Europe, how do they manage?:popcorn:

The OP is considering escaping winters and can still do that by renting as I stated earlier. He will save money, extra work and can escape the miserable heat of Florida summers.

[AMB444]

Lived most of my life in Wisconsin and Minnesota. Lived in Florida for 4 years.

I'd definitely take the FL summers over upper Midwest winters! But I LOVE the beach in May - Sept. The water is a like bathwater warm. LOVE IT!

I can't stand driving in snow anymore. Icy roads that can easily put you in the ditch. At my age it's dangerous. Walking on icy parking lots just to get into the grocery store. Always having that feeling of never being warm Sept - June. Snow starts in late September and can snow until May. Deep freeze for 6 months. No thanks!

[Dusty_Star]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.


I prefer Florida Summer to northern winter. It was a major reason for my relocation south. I have several staircases in my northern house & one of them is outdoors, from the back parking to the kitchen door. Due to icing & snow, it becomes almost unusable during the winter. Some winters are longer & snowier than others, I've been a northerner all of my life so I have seen many variants. Due to my location, my driveway must be cleared after each snowfall, & or salted when icy, or I would not be able to get out of my driveway. Additionally, it becomes harder to walk on sidewalks, or store parking lots either due to icing or wet leaves in the fall. Florida presents no such slipping hazards.

As to Florida summers, it is warm & humid. I like it. I was out each & every day last summer & it was mostly pleasant. I did keep an eye on my 'out in the heat' time & did try to return to the AC before I over did it, but I suspect that wariness will lessen. I did try to grocery shop in the mornings before it got hot, so that I could get my groceries home with out melting. But also, the stores are less crowded in the mornings so I could get in & get it done quickly. Which has nothing to do with the heat.

If you haven't bought yet, maybe try to spend some time here this coming summer & see how you react to it. For me, it was fine. More than fine, good. But everyone is different. I do disagree strongly with some posters who are always going on about the HEAT & how HOT it is. I liked it, & in my specific case, it was way better in Florida than it was up north last summer due to the smoke from the Canadian wildfires which made many people miserable.

My garage gets hot & I am wondering if insulating the door would help, on the other hand, I don't spend a lot of time there. At one point I was waiting for a delivery & parked the car on the street & whoo hoo, that car got hot. What I learned from that was that even though the garage gets toasty it is way cooler than parking out in the sun. :)

I cannot compare to Michigan, but the New York City area gets hot & humid & pretty uncomfortable for some period of time every summer. Florida had nothing on an NYC heatwave. Probably due to the ubiquity of central AC.

Good luck. For me, concerns about the heat were overblown.

[AMB444]

Interesting, what part of the upper mid-west hits temperatures that high regularly every year?.

Minnesota and Wisconsin. Can have weeks of over 100*. Humidity comparable to FL.

Plus the last few summers we've gotten the Canadian wildfire "smog". People with asthma and similiar health issues have had to stay indoors.

[Aces4]

Lived most of my life in Wisconsin and Minnesota. Lived in Florida for 4 years.

I'd definitely take the FL summers over upper Midwest winters! But I LOVE the beach in May - Sept. The water is a like bathwater warm. LOVE IT!

I can't stand driving in snow anymore. Icy roads that can easily put you in the ditch. At my age it's dangerous. Walking on icy parking lots just to get into the grocery store. Always having that feeling of never being warm Sept - June. Snow starts in late September and can snow until May. Deep freeze for 6 months. No thanks!

Did you live in the Upper Peninsula? Most snow in those states start in November and are gone by April 1 or earlier. There may be a rare spring snow which melts immediately.

But the point here is the OP could be gone for the winter months up north and out of Florida for the steamy 6 months of April through September if he rents his getaway. And Florida isn't for everyone, he would have the opportunity to enjoy more of the country.

[Cupcake57]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

I've been here 4 summers now and honestly don't mind the weather at all. It often rains late afternoon in the summer, but only briefly. I get up and do my outside stuff in the mornings or else stay wet in the pool. Never feel hot driving the golf cart as there is a breeze. Not one mosquito bite.

I am done with midwest winters. Falls on the ice, power outages, frozen pipes, salt on shoes/car/coat...

[It's Hot There]

I'm sure some older people can't manage conditions and a snowblower but the question is about summers in Florida. Renting is the best of both worlds, much less expensive and easier.

Don't you read anything??? The OP: "Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare?"

There are millions of people who live in rural areas and public streets are not cleared quickly. Has nothing to do with older people.

[Aces4]

Minnesota and Wisconsin. Can have weeks of over 100*. Humidity comparable to FL.

Plus the last few summers we've gotten the Canadian wildfire "smog". People with asthma and similiar health issues have had to stay indoors.


And Florida may have a bigger problem on it's borders shortly compared to one summer of wildfire smoke which is over.

There is no comparison between those mid-west states summers and Florida's, not according to the former residents that live in Florida now. They would love to get out of Florida and head north. My mother in her 90's would have loved the Florida summers since her circulation had diminished so much. Maybe the state of the OP's health would make a difference in his decision.

[Aces4]

Don't you read anything??? The OP: "Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare?"

There are millions of people who live in rural areas and public streets are not cleared quickly. Has nothing to do with older people.

I think perhaps your reading comprehension is off.

I was responding to another poster regarding not be able to get out of the house for three days if it snowed. May be if you lived in the middle of 100 acres and had a very long driveway, there was a problem once or twice a winter if a storm that severe actually occurred. And no, there aren't millions of people living in Michigan on bad roads three days after a snow storm.

If you noticed, the OP said he didn't mind snow, he didn't like the dreariness of winter and I don't know if he realizes the days shorten in Florida too during the winter. He was questioning how tolerable the Florida heat was in the summer.

[AMB444]

Did you live in the Upper Peninsula? Most snow in those states start in November and are gone by April 1 or earlier. There may be a rare spring snow which melts immediately.

Upper Peninsula? Do you mean Michigan? I lived in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Michigan winters can be a bit different due to the lake effect.

In Minnesota we'll get snow in late Sept some years. Most definitely will have snow on the ground mid October. We can frequently have snow on the ground into late April. And will get snow some years in May.

[AMB444]

There is no comparison between those mid-west states summers and Florida's

I lived in south FL for almost 5 years. I'm very familiar with summer in FL. Midwest summers on the great plains and upper Midwest can be extremely hot and stifling.

[Aces4]

I lived in south FL for almost 5 years. I'm very familiar with summer in FL. Midwest summers on the great plains and upper Midwest can be extremely hot and stifling.

That's crazy, there is no comparison in the heat of Florida vs an upper mid-west summer. None, nada...

If there is no discrepancy, why wouldn't you suggest the gentleman from Michigan rent one or two summers from April through September and then we could hear it from the horse's mouth.

[Aces4]

Upper Peninsula? Do you mean Michigan? I lived in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Michigan winters can be a bit different due to the lake effect.

In Minnesota we'll get snow in late Sept some years. Most definitely will have snow on the ground mid October. We can frequently have snow on the ground into late April. And will get snow some years in May.

Some years... like hardly ever.

The Lost Winter of 2023-24 | Minnesota DNR (https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/climate/journal/lost-winter-2023-24.html)


I understand if you don't like the upper Midwest climate but the OP likes snow.

[MSchad]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.
Grew up in South Dakota and lived most my adult life there to. Been full time in TV for 5 years now. Never regretted the move. Love the hot!

[AMB444]

That's crazy, there is no comparison in the heat of Florida vs an upper mid-west summer. None, nada...


T'okay whatever you say! This August y'all come up to Iowa and sit outside at sunset. And wait for the "corn sweats" to hit ya. :1rotfl:

[Aces4]

T'okay whatever you say! This August y'all come up to Iowa and sit outside at sunset. And wait for the "corn sweats" to hit ya. :1rotfl:

Or have the August sweats from 9:00 AM til 10:00 PM in The Villages.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[AMB444]

Some years... like hardly ever.
.

With all due respect, you haven't a clue of what you are talking about.

[AMB444]

The Lost Winter of 2023-24 | Minnesota DNR (https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/climate/journal/lost-winter-2023-24.html)


Not sure what you're trying to prove with the above link. But this winter has been an El Nino year. It's cyclical ... every 7 years or so. The farmers been talking about this for the last few years that 2024 was going to be El Nino. Seriously. You haven't a clue apparently about upper Midwest summers and it shows.

[Aces4]

Not sure what you're trying to prove with the above link. But this winter has been an El Nino year. It's cyclical ... every 7 years or so. The farmers been talking about this for the last few years that 2024 was going to be El Nino. Seriously. You haven't a clue apparently about upper Midwest summers and it shows.

Wow, this respect disappeared in a hurry and here I was going to say the same respect to you, lol.

Try 76 years of upper Midwest living and some part time living in Florida in those years. Florida is fine for many but this gentleman was asking for facts and not some skewed information stating Florida summers are far nicer than Minnesota's or Wisconsin's. Ever hear of the Great Lakes? He lives in Michigan.

[asianthree]

I love the snow, the silence of snow fall glitter at 4am in the moonlight. Since we had to always get out, 4x4s, (not just front wheel) was waiting in the garage. Snow was shoved every 3” so no worries there. I really love the cold, with wearing a light jacket until -0 temps arrive. Michigan snow has really not been in abundance for skiing, but as long as it’s cold snowmaking begins.

Last summer was our first and Only summer in TV. Do not do well in temps above 78. According to many it was a very hot summer here in long time. Why stay here confined to very early outdoors or jump AC to AC.

We have multiple residents and plan was to sell one northern home. Not going to happen after last summer we plan to escape TV shortly after May, head to family home then up to the Lake house until September.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I love the snow, the silence of snow fall glitter at 4am in the moonlight. Since we had to always get out, 4x4s, (not just front wheel) was waiting in the garage. Snow was shoved every 3” so no worries there. I really love the cold, with wearing a light jacket until -0 temps arrive. Michigan snow has really not been in abundance for skiing, but as long as it’s cold snowmaking begins.

Last summer was our first and Only summer in TV. Do not do well in temps above 78. According to many it was a very hot summer here in long time. Why stay here confined to very early outdoors or jump AC to AC.

We have multiple residents and plan was to sell one northern home. Not going to happen after last summer we plan to escape TV shortly after May, head to family home then up to the Lake house until September.

Nothing like a New England lake house summer...

[AMB444]

Or have the August sweats from 9:00 AM til 10:00 PM in The Villages.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Lol! That's when I head to the beach. :MOJE_whot:

[AMB444]

...this gentleman was asking for facts ...

Sounds like he was asking for our opinions...

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

[JMintzer]

Then you must leave town during the hurricane hits. We have never been housebound for three days because of snow. This is the year of 2024, not 1950 anymore.

TV is where costal FL comes when the hurricanes hit!

[JMintzer]

But the value is corrupted.:22yikes: We have friends who live full-time in Florida and they all say the summer heat in murder. At least when it is cold, people can go out during the daytime and don't have to stay housebound. I'm only suggesting the OP consider the downside of full-time Florida living when he could alter his schedule to have it all.

The heat may be murder to your friends, but for millions of others, it not an issue...

Yes, it's hot and humid in the summer. Just like it's hot and humid in the DC suburbs where I lived for the majority of my life...

The trick is to get out early, chill inside (or at the pool) mid-day, and then venture out again when it starts to cool off in the evenings...

[JMintzer]

Not a direct comparison but just summer in FL information. We have lived here year-round for several years. My wife hates the heat but loves the lifestyle.

In the summer we play golf, pickleball, softball, or do any outside activities in the morning. Usually between about 7 and 10 AM. Then we spend most of the day inside in the AC. I usually go to the pool but she doesn't. Trips in the car or cart to go shopping or whatever are easily done.

We venture back outside for other outdoor activities around 5 or 6 PM. I often play 9 holes of golf in late afternoon but she does not. The late afternoon heat does not bother me.

Hope this helps

Exactly! I wish I had said that (before reading your post...) :D

[Shipping up to Boston]

The heat may be murder to your friends, but for millions of others, it not an issue...

Yes, it's hot and humid in the summer. Just like it's hot and humid in the DC suburbs where I lived for the majority of my life...

The trick is to get out early, chill inside (or at the pool) mid-day, and then venture out again when it starts to cool off in the evenings...

That doesn’t sound like living....sounds like surviving. If you choose that kind of summer, to each his own. The difference is the Mid Atlantic states and New England just as an example, those regions the temps and humidity are variable. You can go out any time of the day...less a couple heatwaves on average. You honestly cannot say that about FL

[Topspinmo]

It actually gets hotter in many parts of the mid-west and upper mid-west during summer than it does here in Florida. Yes, we'll get temps of 93* or so on a pretty regular basis during the summer, but temps above 95* or 96* are rare while in the mid-west, they often hit 97* or hotter several times during a typical summer.

Edit to add: A person quickly learns to do their outside summer activities in Florida in early morning when the temps are upper 70's or mid-morning when they are mid 80's. Don't wait til afternoon to start your pickleball or tennis game.

But in central Florida you have the humidity and angle of sun. IMO angle of sun feels hotter on my back, neck, side of my face. Although rarely get over 95 to 98 the humidity easily added 10 degrees to that on some of though days. Every 85 can seem hot down here for me.

[It's Hot There]

I think perhaps your reading comprehension is off.

I was responding to another poster regarding not be able to get out of the house for three days if it snowed. May be if you lived in the middle of 100 acres and had a very long driveway, there was a problem once or twice a winter if a storm that severe actually occurred. And no, there aren't millions of people living in Michigan on bad roads three days after a snow storm.

If you noticed, the OP said he didn't mind snow, he didn't like the dreariness of winter and I don't know if he realizes the days shorten in Florida too during the winter. He was questioning how tolerable the Florida heat was in the summer.

Again, you think wrong. My comprehension is perfect.

I never said millions in Michigan. I said rural.
Having 100 acres or 1 acre has nothing to do with being stuck on a county road which does not get cleared for days.

Please try to comprehend. The OP was asking for a comparison. Different people are giving different comparisons.

I see many other posters agreeing with my on your comprehension.

Someone said read and add value. I would say: Read, Comprehend, Add Value.

Hope you have a nice day.

[dewilson58]

Sounds like he was asking for our opinions...

Not sure what all the card guy issue is, but he doesn't seem to understand.

:thumbup:

[dewilson58]

With all due respect, you haven't a clue of what you are talking about.

:BigApplause:

[Aces4]

The heat may be murder to your friends, but for millions of others, it not an issue...

Yes, it's hot and humid in the summer. Just like it's hot and humid in the DC suburbs where I lived for the majority of my life...

The trick is to get out early, chill inside (or at the pool) mid-day, and then venture out again when it starts to cool off in the evenings...

I totally agree with your assessment that many of Floridians can tolerate the heat and don’t mind living indoors during the prime part of the day. But many don’t and the gentleman from the beautiful state of Michigan won’t know until he has spent a couple of summers here renting, as I suggested.

Summers in Florida and Michigan are not comparable. That dishonest representation doesn’t add “value” to the OP’s decision. Maybe he will love the scorching heat like many do. Then he should sell his northern home and make the move.

There is something for everyone but living full time in Florida isn’t mandatory for happiness.

[Aces4]

Not sure what all the card guy issue is, but he doesn't seem to understand.

:thumbup:

Not sure what this statement means…

[tophcfa]

I’ll take a HHH summer day in Florida over a winter day up north seven days a week and twice on Sunday. I like the heat way more than cold and ice. Plus, we have a pool and A/C in Florida and often suffer from the heat during the summer up north without either. The only thing I hate about summers in Florida is the friggin lightning. Since I enjoy swimming (water is a great conductor of electricity) and golfing (being in an open area with a bag of lightning rods), the lightning can frequently put a damper on things. Plus, the Villages is a ghost town in the summer compared to the winter. Cheap golf and no crowds are very easy to get used to.

[Aces4]

TV is where costal FL comes when the hurricanes hit!

Are our friends lying when they tell us they are leaving TV when a hurricane warning is up? They stayed for one and they won’t do that again.

There may not be a direct hit but there can be flooding, loss of electricity and wind damage closing the rec centers, golf courses, restaurants and businesses.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I’ll take a HHH summer day in Florida over a winter day up north seven days a week and twice on Sunday. I like the heat way more than cold and ice. Plus, we have a pool and A/C in Florida and often suffer from the heat during the summer up north without either. The only thing I hate about summers in Florida is the friggin lightning. Since I enjoy swimming (water is a great conductor of electricity) and golfing (being in an open area with a bag of lightning rods), the lightning can frequently put a damper on things. Plus, the Villages is a ghost town in the summer compared to the winter. Cheap golf and no crowds are very easy to get used to.

Is there a shortage of AC and pools up north?!

You’re kind of proving the point with ‘TV is a ghost town in the summer’ ....where do you think all your neighbors retreated to? You’re clearly in the minority. It’s been stated by many posters across many threads that they no longer own homes up north so trying to convince yourself that a FL summer isn’t that bad kind of rings hollow

[tophcfa]

There can be flooding, loss of electricity and wind damage closing the rec centers, golf courses, restaurants and businesses.

Like when a nor’easter hits up north?

Is there a shortage of AC and pools up north?!

Yup, neither at our house up north, but both at our house in the Villages. That constitutes a shortage in my book.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Like when a nor’easter hits up north?



Yup, neither at our house up north, but both at our house in the Villages. That constitutes a shortage in my book.

Well I’m glad you’re now whole sir!

[CarlR33]

I’m wondering why people are putting pools in their back yard? As long as I have a pool and AC why do I need to go back north, LOL

[AMB444]

I lived full time in Las Vegas for 5 straight years - The summer high reached 115+ on multiple occasions. Florida summers are way more tolerable than the Southwest. (IMO).

Not to derail this thread too much but I agree 100%.

Was in Phoenix (never been until then) in July '23 for son's baseball tournie. Concrete stadium heated up by 10am like a tandoori oven. Just radiated heat from below your feet. Many parents had to get back into their cars to turn the AC on. We were pouring water all over ourselves... looks less ridiculous than passing out. :loco:

Close second for killer heat would be Atlanta. Also July bball tournie. We had kids passing out in the dugout... kids from the south.

And I lived in south FL for 4 years so I understand heat index.

[westernrider75]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

We have now experienced several Florida summer and I will still take the heat and humidity over the cold, gray mess of a northern winter. I am by nature an early riser so I can still get my round of golf (no trouble getting a tee time then) in, bike ride, dog walk, etc before the heat. Once the heat is on I head to the pool!

That long gray winter is history for me!

[huge-pigeons]

A lot of the snowbirds leave TV to go to places in the summer that have large outbreaks of tornadoes and very humid summers. The central part of the country as well as the upper states like Ohio and Michigan are very humid states. My summer visits to Cincinnati for work were every bit as humid as Florida summers. Same goes for Omaha, and flint Michigan. Terrible summer humidity.
I moved from the north over 24 years ago and have never regretted it for a minute. If I want to snow ski, I’ll rent a place for a week where I don’t have to drive and it has a nice fireplace.

[Susan1717]

I would take Florida all summer over a north cold winter hands down!! Everyone is different though. Anything below 50 and I’m miserable! I have no problem being active all through the summer down here. It’s my 8th year. Head to the beach, a pool, or go boating with a fabulous breeze! Chicago would go a month some years with zero sunshine. I cannot take that.

[bowlingal]

yes, it's hot and humid here during the summer. that's why air conditioning and pools were invented.

[Rwirish]

Summer is very tolerable and is the best time of the year. Northern winters are far worse!

[GATORBILL66]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

This will be my 50th summer in Florida after 26 years of summers and winters in northern Ohio. Love the summers in Florida!

[Annie66]

Then you must leave town during the hurricane hits. We have never been housebound for three days because of snow. This is the year of 2024, not 1950 anymore.

We have survived 11 hurricanes that either came over the top of us or was a cloe sideswipe. Only once did we evacuate and that was when we lived in Virigina Beach. We are in a hurricane prone state, but our area is probably one of the safer areas since we are 40-60 miles inland depending on which way the hurricane travels.

You are welcome to evacuate but we are smart people who are prepared for a hurricane contingency.

[sdm1222]

Winters in the North aren't like when we were kids. Towns have the equipment to deal with snow, and the following day or even the same day the streets are cleared. Only 2 snowstorms in the Northeast this year. You'll get sick of the very hot constant daily sun, the incredible humidity that last for 7-8 months, and the bugs that come with that.
That'll keep you in the house because that drains you physically.

[Rzepecki]

But the value is corrupted.:22yikes: We have friends who live full-time in Florida and they all say the summer heat in murder. At least when it is cold, people can go out during the daytime and don't have to stay housebound. I'm only suggesting the OP consider the downside of full-time Florida living when he could alter his schedule to have it all.

The summers here are hot and humid, but I prefer that weather to no sun and the endless gray days of Michigan. I was here through Irma and was not trapped in my house. I chose not to go out, but I wasn’t forced to stay in.

[MandoMan]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

Among the places I’ve lived is Virginia, near Washington, couple hours west of Philadelphia, Lincoln, Nebraska, Southern California, Northern California, and Denver.

Washington, Philadelphia, and Lincoln are all very hot and humid in the summer—not much different from The Villages. Southern California is too hot in the summer but not humid. Northern California is bearable all year where I lived (the mountains near Napa Valley). Denver is very dry, which makes it hard to breathe through my nose. To get to delightful summer areas, to my taste, in much of the country that means where you live—Michigan—maybe, or New England, upstate New York, etc.

Lincoln is often bitterly cold in the winter, though many areas are worse. The Philadelphia and Eastern Virginia areas aren’t really “grueling” as winters go, though it can be chilly, and sometimes there’s a lot of snow to shovel. I lived in the country half my life in Eastern Pennsylvania, and I usually enjoyed the winters. I seldom needed a heavy coat.

In The Villages I do the same thing I did in Pennsylvania in the summer: when it was hot and humid, I stayed inside. I live in The Villages year round now, in a courtyard villa with an excellent HVAC system. It’s on all the time. I rarely open windows and doors. 24/7, either the AC or the heat is on. Yesterday’s electric bill was $80, but that includes charging my car in the garage. In mid-summer, electricity might be $100 or maybe even $120 at the worst. That’s about half what it cost me for electricity and propane in Pennsylvania.

In Pennsylvania, I found it too hot and humid to go out much in the summer. Same in The Villages. In both places, I stayed in air-conditioned comfort all day. So what’s the difference? In the evenings, in the summer, it’s quite delightful here. Because of the humidity, the air smells really good here. (In Denver, it’s so dry that nice smells don’t carry very well.) I live just north of 466A and not near a lake, so I’ve never seen a mosquito near my house. (If you buy a new house down south, bear in mind that mosquitoes breed in the swamps down there and will come to visit you.) Also, in the summer here, it rains or at least there are thunderclouds at least every other day. That cools things down and is fun to watch—great sunrises and sunsets.

Where The Villages shines, of course, is in the winter months. Yes, we usually get a couple frosts in the winter, but the most I bundle up is a fleece vest or a sport coat. It really is nice.

[Berwin]

Back in my Army days, I was out in the field (Alps) one time when it was 32 below zero not counting wind chill. Still better than some of the hottest summer days around here. I've also been in the field (desert) when it was way above 100 in full MOPP gear and that was worse than Florida. My experience is you can always put more clothes on but there is a limit to how few you can wear (at least in Florida).

[JWGifford]

What northern winter?!
It’s honestly what you’re used to or can become accustomed to. We purposefully rented a house in The Villages during the hottest part of the summer to see how it felt. We live in Houston. It felt cooler in the The Villages. Everything is relative.

[banjobob]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.
Summers are hot most every day sea breezes come in clouds form usually a brief shower , not like the a sweltering desert breezes usually come midday.

[cphague]

I'm not sure which "north" you are talking about, but summer in the midwest (Ohio, Indiana, Illinois), is oppressive humidity and heat. That's one of the many reasons corn and soy bean grow so well there in the summer and they, oddly enough, contribute to the humidity.

In July and August there are many times that it is hotter and more humid there than here which amazes my friends that still live there. So, my spouse and I are out and about all summer long here totally enjoying the lack of crowds, yes, and still sweating, but there are swimming pools and showers that help with that. We love it.

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

[Sleeved]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

You don’t have to shovel heat.

[paulajr]

We have lived here full time for over 10 years. Every day we say that we can’t WAIT until summer. Less traffic, less people, more time to “play”. We golf almost every afternoon (less crowded and less expensive), spend time in our pool..and enjoy..
The Florida heat is not “murder”!

But the value is corrupted.:22yikes: We have friends who live full-time in Florida and they all say the summer heat in murder. At least when it is cold, people can go out during the daytime and don't have to stay housebound. I'm only suggesting the OP consider the downside of full-time Florida living when he could alter his schedule to have it all.

[Villagesgal]

We moved here 23 years ago full time and still love it here. Summers are less humid than many areas up north and quite nice in the shade with a bit of a breeze. It took us living thru 3 summers to be acclimated and now we honestly love our summers with the snowbirds gone the pools, the nights on the squares, the restaurants and shops are pleasantly uncrowded. We hardly ever use our car in the summers, preferring the golf cart with the windshield down.
Trust me, after a few summers here you will love it. I'll take the beautiful summers here over freezing cold winters with snow shoveling, snow driving and high heat bills anyday.
By the way, we now keep our ac at 78 in the summers and are cool with low electric bills, just let your body acclimate to the weather here and you'll love summers here too. Or don't and just complain about it. I prefer to love it here. We would never move back up north, visit yes, live there again, no.

[TeresaE]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

I have never been trapped in our house because of heat. Just wear a hat when you’re in the sun, stay hydrated and hug the shade. And don’t do any too strenuous. Outside work or walks should be done in the early mornings.

To escape the heat just go up into the Georgia/Tennessee mountains. It’s a beautiful part of the world you don’t want to miss.

[ChicagoNative]

This is going to be our fourth full summer here. Yes, it’s hot and humid; It’s freakin’ Florida! However, after last year, we were almost ready to become snowbirds again.

El Niño made last year the absolute most uncomfortable summer we’ve ever experienced. It seemed like it went into the mid-upper 90s in March and stayed that way until Halloween. Even the nights and early mornings were miserably hot. Summers in Chicago have periods of heat and humidity, but you get a break every few days.

All that said, I’ve never once had to shovel heat or have ice dams break off the building gutter and crash through a wooden porch! I no longer have to wade through many unshoveled sidewalks, yellow snow, or endure multiple days of gray, sunless skies, and cabin fever is a thing of the past. Just like everything else, to each their own.

[billethkid]

I keep it simple;
If there are no palm trees then I am too far North.

[paulajr]

The Villages will never flood..the drainage systems are built to prevent that.
We have been through many hurricane warnings , watches and actual hurricanes here in almost 11 years. We have NEVER lost power, been flooded or had any damage. No…very few people leave..but many come from other areas to the relative safety of TV.

Are our friends lying when they tell us they are leaving TV when a hurricane warning is up? They stayed for one and they won’t do that again.

There may not be a direct hit but there can be flooding, loss of electricity and wind damage closing the rec centers, golf courses, restaurants and businesses.

[nn0wheremann]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.
July and August in the Villages is like January and February in Chicago. You go out when you have to, or if you really want to. It does not cool off much at night, unlike on hot days in the Midwest. The humidity is very high, with dew points often in the middle 70s or higher. Get used to it. On the other hand, you will not slip and fall on the sunshine, and you never need to shovel the rain.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Not to derail this thread too much but I agree 100%.

Was in Phoenix (never been until then) in July '23 for son's baseball tournie. Concrete stadium heated up by 10am like a tandoori oven. Just radiated heat from below your feet. Many parents had to get back into their cars to turn the AC on. We were pouring water all over ourselves... looks less ridiculous than passing out. :loco:

Close second for killer heat would be Atlanta. Also July bball tournie. We had kids passing out in the dugout... kids from the south.

And I lived in south FL for 4 years so I understand heat index.

Right, every area you just mentioned is notorious for that type of weather and thus, people are captive to their AC all day. In other parts of the country, the north east specifically, those days are variable and few in duration. If the former is what some refer to as quality of life, enjoy it.

[birdawg]

Blonds Brunette’s Redheads and now Grey heads everyone likes something different

[Switter]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

I am from Minnesota and move down here last August. I don't have the luxury of owning two properties so I live here full-time. I also lived in Houston for a couple years, which is just as hot and humid during the summer as this area of florida.

Have you thought of coming down here in July for a week or two to give it a test run, just so you can experience how hot it actually is? You will probably acclimate to it somewhat but if you're the type of person that dislikes heat and humidity then you might not like it no matter how much you acclimate to it. That's the way I felt about the cold and Minnesota, I absolutely hated it. I don't like oppressive heat and humidity either but I tolerate it much better than the cold.

The sun is very hot down here, even when it's in the upper 70s. If there's no breeze and you're in direct sun, the 70s feels like much warmer than the temperature belies.

I'm not sure anybody's gonna be able to answer your question adequately because each person has different tolerances to heat and cold. Maybe you could hang onto your property up north for a year or two and see how it goes?

[airstreamingypsy]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

The difference is.... Cold, bitter cold is actually painful. It's also dangerous if you have to shovel snow, or walk or drive on ice.

Summer in Florida is miserable, during the day, but it doesn't hurt. We live in an air conditioned word. Our homes, cars and places we go all have air conditioning. Yard work is restricted to after dinner...... summer in Florida is better than winter in the frozen north.

[stone8735]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

You don't have to shovel heat

[Justputt]

We'll snowbird this summer only because we're setting up our house in Upstate NY for sale. When I was younger, didn't have an iffy back, etc. I enjoyed a day on the slopes, but skiing is even more pricey, crowed with less good snow days, and my back won't take it. That leaves us with just stupidly cold days (even when no snow) and winter seems like it lasts 6 months now. Snowblowers, shoveling sidewalks, heating bills, and just getting around can be miserable. Spring (muddy season), Summer, Fall are pretty, and we do enjoy it. In the early 80s, I lived in Michigan on Lake Michigan, which brought a new definition of cold to me with the obscene double digit below zero windchill off the lake. While not having been on a Florida summer in decades, I did work for years in MS, where the heat and humidity were at least as oppressive as FL, with Golf Shores, AL as the nearest clean reasonable beach. We're going to do year-round in TV, the Gulf and the Atlantic are easy day trips to find sea water and breezes. We won't be there every day of summer, but as a hub to go visit kids around the country and generally travel, we're good with just having one place to keep up with. Being <1 hour to MCO makes traveling almost anywhere easy.

[Markus]

We have been in Florida for almost 4 years coming from Ohio.

IF you are wanting to do anything outside during the day from late May till October you must get used to sweating and most of the time ALOT. Any small task you will sweat. It doesn't matter if you feel the humidity it is there. Once you start doing anything you will sweat. A normal 90 degree day yes you experience it up north but it does not compare to 90 degrees here at all. The sun is more intense here and even if you don't feel the humidity when you step outside in 5 minutes you will feel it. It the peak of Summer you will feel the humidity instantly. You will run your car AC probably 350 days of the year. You learn to do activities early in the morning or after the sun goes down like biking or walking. It takes some getting used to and I get hot very easily. You learn to cope with it and do things around weather if it is all possible. When I mow the yard I try to pick a day when the temps are lower and if it is a cloudy day which helps. If you think at all it may not be for you you should plan a trip in July or August for a week in Florida and plan to be outdoors to see if you can handle it. AC IS your friend and most people are inside during the hot part of the day. However, you ARE in Florida so everyone tends to be more active here than up North.

[dtennent]

Having lived in upstate NY for 35 years and now living here, here is my comparison.

Northern winters -
1) Looks like a black and white film from November until early April.
2) If it snows, ( or worse yet, an ice storm), while you are away from home, driving can be treacherous. Several times Mother Nature can overwhelm the plow/sanders in the short term. Icy roads can cause accidents no matter how careful you are.
3) While I often backpacked during the winter as a younger man, I am no longer as tolerant to the cold as I have gotten older. So I found myself less active in winter. If you are still active outdoors in the winter, good for you.

Summers in FL -

1) The summers are hot but no worse than what we experienced in NY. The major difference is that we would get significant breaks when a cold front came through. I found that I got used to the heat and planned accordingly with time.
2) My energy bills for the summer are 1/3 of our energy bills for winter up north. We set our thermostat at 78 here and up north we set it at 68.
3) I can mow my lawn in 30 minutes. It seemed like the wind was always blowing when I shoveled snow and it took much longer than 30 minutes.

In the northern winter, we went from heated building, to scraping the windshield then into a heated car, and into a heated building. Down here, you go from AC building to AC car (no scraping involved) to AC building.

BTW, I agree with your decision not to own 2 places in different parts of the country. Good luck.

[Cliff Fr]

Every regions weather has its own advantages and disadvantages. If I were able to financially I would have a mountain house in Tennessee to go to a few months in the summer

[chuckpedrey]

I grew up in East Lansing. I would admire the fresh fallen snow from inside my house but dread the cold when it was time to walk to school. I’ve lived in Florida for 50 years and never once regretted the trade off of cold winters for hot summers.

[DoreenH]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.
We are snowbirds from Michigan. I must admit, it's nice to get out of the dreary cloudy Michigan winters for 6 months. It seems like the winters are getting milder up there though. Less snow and warmer days. Still a lot of clouds tho. So, sometimes I think about staying up in Michigan longer before we come to Florida. Coming to The Villages is not always nice either. It's so crowded in the winter, and this year the weather wasn't very good. Overall, I still think being here for a few months (Jan-Mar) makes for a nice break, even if it's crowded and cooler. You wouldn't have to live in the Villages either. Central Florida is a good location because you don't really get damage from hurricanes. And, the weather is cooler than the southern parts.

[coleprice]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.
Summer Temps in The Villages (TV) range mostly between the Mid-80's to Mid-90's in the afternoon. The humidity in TV is typically much lower than along the coast, so these temps are tolerable. My wife and I typically golf in the afternoon during the summer because it's easy to get a Tee-Time, but we select courses with plenty of shade to keep things comfortable.

[haugstad6019@msn.com]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

Hmmm...From Minnesota. First summer here the humidity hit us the most but we had to go back to Minnesota in the summer to check on our house up there and it was 104 degrees that day we arrived in Minneapolis. So we find we are fine here.

You can still go out in the summer, may want to do you exercise early morning, wear your sunscreen, eyewear/hat and stay hydrated. Keep car out of heat if you can if not put a sunscreen in the window. I find the breeze here is more prevalent in the summer as well. Ocean is about 60 min away to enjoy in the summer as well. We have so many pools here to keep you cool too. I found it easier to go out in the summer than to deal with the brutal cold and snow up north. We have done more down here in the summer than we have in the winter up north! And it is healthier lifestyle here as well. Other than the few grey days here this winter, it is sunny most of the time. The hubby has almost wiped out his depression just due to the sunshine here and able to exercise everyday outside!

You can always go visit during those months if it gets a bit warm. I would rather shovel sunshine than snow anyday! Happy soul searching!

Best Wishes!

[kendi]

In Florida summers we take our walks before dawn. Last summer was so unbearably hot and humid I didn’t even go out so then so we stayed up North until it cooled down. Previous summers were more tolerable. As far as winter up North, as you say it’s the lack of sun that is the problem. It would be nice to own just one home but at this point the benefits outweigh negatives. Biggest negative in central Florida is the healthcare. They say TV is one of the healthiest places to live. But watch out if you end up with a serious health issue. Hospitals, medical professionals (in general) and rehab facilities are below par. Some much lower. With some of the horror stories we’ve heard you’d think we were in a third world state. It’s the healthcare that keeps us from becoming permanent residents of Fl.

[sallyg]

We moved to TV from northern Michigan. The first summer was a shock. We'd never experienced heat and humidity like that before.You do acclimate but change your routine to avoid the worst heat of the day. The bitter cold, fear of slipping, shoveling snow, in Michigan are worse than summer heat in Florida. I never would have believed it before experiencing it.
The more time you spend in the heat and sun the harder it is to handle the cold and gray - at least for us.

[DoreenH]

We are snowbirds from Michigan. I must admit, it's nice to get out of the dreary cloudy Michigan winters for 6 months. It seems like the winters are getting milder up there though. Less snow and warmer days. Still a lot of clouds tho. So, sometimes I think about staying up in Michigan longer before we come to Florida. Coming to The Villages is not always nice either. It's so crowded in the winter, and this year the weather wasn't very good. Overall, I still think being here for a few months (Jan-Mar) makes for a nice break, even if it's crowded and cooler. You wouldn't have to live in the Villages either. Central Florida is a good location because you don't really get damage from hurricanes. And, the weather is cooler than the southern parts.
Just realized you wanted to compare Michigan Winter with Florida summer. I guess it depends on your tolerance for humdity vs cold. Michigan does get cold (although less lately) and the skies are often cloudy, but it's beautiful in spring, summer, and fall. Florida is often humid, and it has a lot of windy days. So, if you can stand to sweat a lot, then I suppose the summers would be a fair price to pay for the nicer winters.
In Michigan, you can stay in the house on bad days, and the same goes for Florida. The main difference would be taking care of snowy driveways and having to drive somewhere if it does snow in Michigan. In Florida you have to worry about mold and bugs, but you can control when you have to do something about them.
So, it depends on what's important for you. You should visit during the summer and check it out before committing to a life down here.

[Sherrilee]

We moved from Boston here - and are full time. The first summer was really hot but as a blizzard day you stay in- planned shopping and getting out isn’t as bad as snow as you get into air conditioned areas… no shoveling slipping falling driving is easy— you just change clothes more often!

[Shipping up to Boston]

You don't have to shovel heat

To the multitude that don't read threads in there entirety, 'you dont shovel heat' reference are duly noted. Smh

In the interest of fairplay, the summers in the north are also free from shoveling....hurricane and tornado debris

[Lottoguy]

I would take the hot summers in Florida any day over the cold snowy winters up north. It's great leaving the a/c house in your a/c car in just your t-shirt and sandals.

[Dusty_Star]

To the multitude that don't read threads in there entirety, 'you dont shovel heat' reference are duly noted. Smh

In the interest of fairplay, the summers in the north are also free from shoveling....hurricane and tornado debris


There are hurricanes & tornados in the northern parts.

[GRACEALLEMAN]

I'm a
Florida native can you believe that there's not many of us here in the villages?I lived in portland oregon for twenty seven years and other places around The
World I'm back here in Central Florida in the villages.And I thought I'd never retire Here in florida , it took me a couple years to get used to the heat again since I was born In south florida and was raised here And yes , I do agree that it is just as hot in midwest in northern united States as it is here in Florida.It's not hot so much it's the humidity Out Western United States.There is no humidity.Very little , so it didn't bother me there
You save money by living in Florida due to the tax rates here you go Away for a couple months in the summer of the florida Go to the mountains of north carolina Or outwest where the humidity's not so bad and then come back around the middle of september That's it. Save thousands being in florida Really? We've noticed it always sunny and bright.

[BaileyMom]

July & August in northern Illinois were just as hot and humid as summers can be here. We tend to stay indoors during the day but enjoy going out early evening.

I'll take sunshine and heat in Summer over snow in Winter any day!

[bopat]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.


Last summer was our first summer in TV, and from what I understand it was one of the hotter summers. Compared to winters up north, it was a lot nicer in TV. Adjusted our schedule so we were indoors or at the pool during the early afternoon. As I get older I find I'm more tolerant of heat, less tolerant of cold.

But everyone is different. My advice to you is to rent for a month or two in the summer and see for yourself. Rates would be lowest of the year and you'll be able to see how you like it.

[Shipping up to Boston]

There are hurricanes & tornados in the northern parts.

Of course their are...but isolated at best. FL... All of FL is under constant threat from now til November. Every year. Is what it is

[Joe C.]

When it comes to the seasons, I will take the northern winter months over the Florida summer. I don't mind the cold .....even when way below zero. The cold and snow has never kept me from going outside. And when going inside, there's nothing like a good fire going in the woodstove. Ooooooh, the comforting warmth and smell......
The only thing I dislike about northern winters is the salt/brine that they cover the roads with that end up all over the car.
Florida summers are a bit tough ..... the heat and humidity make it a little tough to breathe. But indoors, the air conditioning keeps one indoors more than outside.

I love the snow. The more snow, the better. I love to drive in it and play in and on it.

[opinionist]

I can tolerate heat better than cold so my choice is heat with no regrets. The trick is to get out in the early morning during the summer. I have also played golf in the worst of the summer heat and the trick is to stay hydrated. The hazards of travel in ice and snow are not something that I want to deal with. I would prefer heat rather than cold with the occasional loss of power.

[PompeyKing]

We moved down from the Syracuse area. When it's 5 below and the snow is blowing, we just stayed in the house with the wood stove going full blast. So being in the house in the winter was common.
Here (at least for me) when you wake up and it's 88º and the humidity is high, I don't go outside. I don't play golf (although my husband will) and I don't ride my bike (although my husband will). So the summer here and the winter up there, the house was my refuge!!
So.. it depends on your comfort level!!

[Sandy and Ed]

In all honestly, I would rent in a warmer area whether it be TV's or not and break up the winter cold that way. If you find that you absolutely love a certain area after 4-5 years, then considering moving. It's surprising how the shine wears off of something you thought you'd love forever and Florida summers are ridiculously hot.
Amen. The novelty of paradise does wear off but if you want to maintain only one property , come on down! I moved down from PA (originally from NYC) with my wife (originally from Maine). There is period to become acclimatized in the summer but swimming pools, air conditioned homes, cars and stores help.

[Aces4]

[QUOTE=tophcfa;2313751]Like when a nor’easter hits up north?


We never suffered a nor’easter in the Midwest. Apples and oranges…

You are missing the point. As I stated earlier, some people love Florida heat, some don’t. And when one doesn’t, it’s a tough pill to swallow. That isn’t taking anything away from those who love it. Declaring a Florida summer is the same as an up north summer, however, is ridiculous.

That’s the reason for the rent suggestion. Try before you buy and determine if it’s your cup of tea, OP.:coolsmiley:

[Drakeswood]

We now live in Hawaii but summer in TV (grandkids nearby) after 26 years in Oklahoma. Summers in TV do not compare to the OK summer much less the ice storms of winter. However, each to his own!

[Aces4]

We have lived here full time for over 10 years. Every day we say that we can’t WAIT until summer. Less traffic, less people, more time to “play”. We golf almost every afternoon (less crowded and less expensive), spend time in our pool..and enjoy..
The Florida heat is not “murder”!

For some it is…

[Just jimmy]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

We have been full time here for six years. Came from Philadelphia area. It was just as hot in July and august there as it is here. We have pools and ac here. What’s the big deal. Exercise early in the day or later at night. People are going to complain no matter what the question is.

[Aces4]

You don't have to shovel heat

And you won’t have a heatstroke shoveling snow..:wave:

[Robojo]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

Its been my personal experience that the summers in Florida are really no different than NJ or NC except that it lasts longer. Hot n sticky. I like it in fl but not in those other states go figure.

[Robojo]

Every regions weather has its own advantages and disadvantages. If I were able to financially I would have a mountain house in Tennessee to go to a few months in the summer

Haha we should talk. I'd like to spend my winters in a tennesee mtn house and my spring and summer in florida.

[Karmanng]

But the value is corrupted.:22yikes: We have friends who live full-time in Florida and they all say the summer heat in murder. At least when it is cold, people can go out during the daytime and don't have to stay housebound. I'm only suggesting the OP consider the downside of full-time Florida living when he could alter his schedule to have it all.

IF florida is that bad then you all need to try ARizona in the dead heat of 118 plus for days on end! Oh ya its a dry heat sure HOT IS HOT I have been here for 122........degrees that is......not days ! It truly is living in hell.........

[Lea N]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

I suppose either extreme takes some getting used to and everyone is different. I'm originally from CT. When we moved to FL in 96' the heat of SE FL was very hard for me to get used to. My husband on the other hand adjusted quickly but he always adjusted to the cold up north easily too. My husband used to love, love, love to do yard work. It didn't matter to him how hot it was even when we first moved here. He'd get so involved with making the yard look nice he didn't notice how hot it was. I would run water out to him and stay in the A/C house.
It took me about 10 years to get used to the hot summers. I weighed more then too and believe that made it a bit harder. Now after 28 years in FL the cold is harder for me to tolerate than the heat.

Someone suggested renting for a summer, that's a good idea.

[MidWestIA]

Florida summers are ridiculously hot - that's not the bad part HIGH humidity so people go out in the mornings or evenings

[Dilligas]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

I grew up in the upper midwest and didn't leave until several years after college. In Minnesota, the temperatures regularly dropped below zero between Christmas and New years and didn't come back above until February. You could always count on a Mid March to Mid April snow storm. I lived in St. Louis for 12 years and they had the absolute worst weather in both summer (temps above 100 with high humidity) and winter (ice storms and sleet and below zero temps). I have lived in the desert west Texas for 15 years and Florida for 24 and have the firm belief that those who like 4 seasons don't know any better. Florida temps in mid summer are usually in low 90s with a cooling breeze off the ocean. Sun shines almost every day. You always have a pool to jump into, or A/C facility to go into. I have never had FL heat/humidity so bad it burned my lungs to breathe (like in St. Louis) and never had ice to chip or snow to shovel or had to start the car 5 minutes early to allow it to warm up, like Minnesota and Wisconsin. Yes, the first year (or 2) may require come getting used to, but it is easy....and a good time to plan your traveling.

[Justputt]

As a kid, I grew up on the Eastern Shore (MD), with the Chesapeake Bay on one side and Atlantic Ocean on the other. The heat and humidity seemed to be in lockstep, always hot and humid. My wife is from Rangeley, Maine and knows cold and grew up in PA for the most part. We've lived in hot humid areas and really cold areas, and we both prefer hot over cold, especially since cool ocean/gulf water is so easily accessible and A/C is our friend in between. We liked Texoma (North Texas) where we raised our kids because we had heat with no humidity and winter was usually "Do I need a coat today?", but it lacked...... everything else.

[rustyp]

The answer is :
Winter in Florida (TV)
Summer far up north (in the mountains on a lake)
But we all knew that anyways. It's more a matter of what you can afford.

[DDToto41]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.
I lived most of my life up North. Born in Ohio and lived there until I was 49. Then I got a job in Tennessee for 7 years, Michigan for 4.5 years and Indiana for 3 Years. I spent 9 Mo in Montana, in the Air Force, where the temperature got to 49 degrees below zero, there I decided to retire to Florida. I moved here in Dec. 2005 and live here ever since. I go back to Ohio to visit siblings and find I need a sweater or jacket when I'm up there, I'm so used to the warmth of Florida now. I used to love the 4 seasons.

[Kelevision]

Then you must leave town during the hurricane hits. We have never been housebound for three days because of snow. This is the year of 2024, not 1950 anymore.

TV isn’t on the coast. No leaving for hurricanes.

[LeRoySmith]

Florida summers are ridiculously hot - that's not the bad part HIGH humidity so people go out in the mornings or evenings

Us fat boys dont like humidity

[Brynnie]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

We have lived in TV for 19 years. I hated winters in Ohio and always thought summer didn’t last long enough. After all these years down here, I’m sick of the brutal summers. It’s just too hot to do anything outside, and the humidity can be a killer. I regret not being a snowbird, but we didn’t want to maintain two houses. I’m ready to move back north, if I could convince my spouse.

Think twice before becoming a year round resident.

[LeRoySmith]

We have lived in TV for 19 years. I hated winters in Ohio and always thought summer didn’t last long enough. After all these years down here, I’m sick of the brutal summers. It’s just too hot to do anything outside, and the humidity can be a killer. I regret not being a snowbird, but we didn’t want to maintain two houses. I’m ready to move back north, if I could convince my spouse.

Think twice before becoming a year round resident.

we are maintaining 2 houses and it stinks, we are going to become full timers knowing that we may need to vacation in the north for july and august

[BrianToothill]

Easier to put on flip flops than boots

[BrianToothill]

Easier to put on flip flops than boots !!

[Stu from NYC]

Before we decided to move here we rented for the entire month of June to see how we would deal with a Florida summer.

Decided we could headed back north and shortly thereafter put our house up for sale.

[jimjamuser]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.
"The grey and lack of sun", actually can be a positive because you don't get skin cancer.

[jimjamuser]

In all honestly, I would rent in a warmer area whether it be TV's or not and break up the winter cold that way. If you find that you absolutely love a certain area after 4-5 years, then considering moving. It's surprising how the shine wears off of something you thought you'd love forever and Florida summers are ridiculously hot.
DANGEROUSLY hot. And with G.W. it gets hotter every summer.

[JMintzer]

That doesn’t sound like living....sounds like surviving. If you choose that kind of summer, to each his own. The difference is the Mid Atlantic states and New England just as an example, those regions the temps and humidity are variable. You can go out any time of the day...less a couple heatwaves on average. You honestly cannot say that about FL

I've been visiting FL (many times in the summer) for well over 40 years...

And yes, I can honestly say that about FL...

Yes, last summer was quite hot and humid. But the summer before that was much more comfortable...

[rustyp]

we are maintaining 2 houses and it stinks, we are going to become full timers knowing that we may need to vacation in the north for july and august

I suspect house #1 was easy to give up ????

[JMintzer]

DANGEROUSLY hot. And with G.W. it gets hotter every summer.

https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/020/187/311/original/omar-taher-gif02-v002.gif

[jimjamuser]

I'll take swamp ass over these winters any day. Full disclosure, I haven't spent a whole summer there yet. But still, I can jump in a pool or the AC in the house. I'm done with winter. Done.
Hate to mention it, but by July , August, and Sept, the pool water is as HOT as bathwater. Unless you can bring a truckload of ice with you to the pool, there will be LITTLE relief. And if you have any color of car other than white, or silver, you will literally burn your hand, as in ooowwweeee big time. PS get a white cover for your steering wheel.

[jimjamuser]

It actually gets hotter in many parts of the mid-west and upper mid-west during summer than it does here in Florida. Yes, we'll get temps of 93* or so on a pretty regular basis during the summer, but temps above 95* or 96* are rare while in the mid-west, they often hit 97* or hotter several times during a typical summer.

Edit to add: A person quickly learns to do their outside summer activities in Florida in early morning when the temps are upper 70's or mid-morning when they are mid 80's. Don't wait til afternoon to start your pickleball or tennis game.
Absolute temperature in Florida means absolutely nothing. The temperature in degrees combines with the high humidity plus the stronger sun in Florida to make it feel HOTTER than ANYTHING experienced up-north.

[LeRoySmith]

I suspect house #1 was easy to give up ????

House 1 was a breeze to leave, number 2 is giving us a little more trouble but we are still doing it. We will be down to just the one in TV by this time next year. I hope!

[JMintzer]

Are our friends lying when they tell us they are leaving TV when a hurricane warning is up? They stayed for one and they won’t do that again.

There may not be a direct hit but there can be flooding, loss of electricity and wind damage closing the rec centers, golf courses, restaurants and businesses.

When, in recent memory, has that happened in TV?

Yes, I'm aware of that time when there were tornados that hit TV in 2007.

But the last two major (and many, many minor) hurricanes caused minimal damage. A bit of golf course flooding (which they are designed to do), a few MMP tunnels flooded and a few lost power for a short time...

The State of FL used land in TV for a staging area for the massive influx of repair crews that came to the state in preparation for the storms...

[jimjamuser]

Depends on who you talk to here. Having grown up and lived in the Upper Midwest til we moved here 15 yrs ago---it was THE best decision. The saying is (or question)---would you rather shovel sunshine or snow. The last 3 winters we were up north---there were record snow-falls. Had to shovel out first thing in the morning then again to get vehicles in the garage after work. IF you enjoy winters like that---so be it. Here, you can go inside where the "air" is on but the sun may be shining outside. We don't do activities outside during the midday in summer. As for hurricanes....the effects we experience here is wind and rain, not what you see on t.v. news. That's always on the coasts.
In the PAST, the hurricanes stayed on the coast, but worldwide the oceans have been warming for the last 11 years, so they could bust-through into central Florida now.

[JMintzer]

Is there a shortage of AC and pools up north?!

You’re kind of proving the point with ‘TV is a ghost town in the summer’ ....where do you think all your neighbors retreated to? You’re clearly in the minority. It’s been stated by many posters across many threads that they no longer own homes up north so trying to convince yourself that a FL summer isn’t that bad kind of rings hollow

There are many snowbird renters who only want to (or maybe can only afford to) rent over the winter... Not everyone who leaves is a frog...

Right now, I'm a "snowflake". I come and go when I can. But I've spent multiple multi-week stretches in TV in every season... My wife spends about 4-5 months/year in TV. She has no issues with the heat...

[JMintzer]

Back in my Army days, I was out in the field (Alps) one time when it was 32 below zero not counting wind chill. Still better than some of the hottest summer days around here. I've also been in the field (desert) when it was way above 100 in full MOPP gear and that was worse than Florida. My experience is you can always put more clothes on but there is a limit to how few you can wear (at least in Florida).

Don't be so sure...

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XPoAAOSwI7Fb9-oc/s-l400.jpg

[ashiecat1954]

Then you must leave town during the hurricane hits. We have never been housebound for three days because of snow. This is the year of 2024, not 1950 anymore.

Well, it all depends on where you live. I lived in St Louis and they plowed regularly after snow, I moved to Plato, MO where they hardly ever came down my dirt road so I was homebound until enough of my neighbors with 4 wheel drive packed down the snow. And TV hasn't had problems with hurricanes, the worst of them hits the coast and they aren't near as strong if/when they come by.

[jimjamuser]

I’ll take a HHH summer day in Florida over a winter day up north seven days a week and twice on Sunday. I like the heat way more than cold and ice. Plus, we have a pool and A/C in Florida and often suffer from the heat during the summer up north without either. The only thing I hate about summers in Florida is the friggin lightning. Since I enjoy swimming (water is a great conductor of electricity) and golfing (being in an open area with a bag of lightning rods), the lightning can frequently put a damper on things. Plus, the Villages is a ghost town in the summer compared to the winter. Cheap golf and no crowds are very easy to get used to.
Actually PURE WATER does NOT conduct electricity, the impurities in the water do.

[JMintzer]

Of course their are...but isolated at best. FL... All of FL is under constant threat from now til November. Every year. Is what it is

Hurricane season starts in June...

And "ALL" of FL?

And please refresh my memory... When was the last time a hurricane hit TV?

[JMintzer]

And you won’t have a heatstroke shoveling snow..:wave:

No, just a heart attack...

[jimjamuser]

yes, it's hot and humid here during the summer. that's why air conditioning and pools were invented.
That's why in about 1950 Florida had about 6 million people (all living on the coast) - because A/C was NOT widely available.

[JMintzer]

In the PAST, the hurricanes stayed on the coast, but worldwide the oceans have been warming for the last 11 years, so they could bust-through into central Florida now.

You -do- realize what happens to hurricanes when they travel 75 miles inland, don't you?

[JMintzer]

Actually PURE WATER does NOT conduct electricity, the impurities in the water do.

Can you tell me which Villages pools contain PURE WATER?

I want to know so I can go swimming there during the next electrical storm...

[JMintzer]

That's why in about 1950 Florida had about 6 million people (all living on the coast) - because A/C was NOT widely available.

Tallahassee (est 1824) is on the coast?

Gainesville (est 1854) is on the coast?

Interesting...

[jimjamuser]

This is going to be our fourth full summer here. Yes, it’s hot and humid; It’s freakin’ Florida! However, after last year, we were almost ready to become snowbirds again.

El Niño made last year the absolute most uncomfortable summer we’ve ever experienced. It seemed like it went into the mid-upper 90s in March and stayed that way until Halloween. Even the nights and early mornings were miserably hot. Summers in Chicago have periods of heat and humidity, but you get a break every few days.

All that said, I’ve never once had to shovel heat or have ice dams break off the building gutter and crash through a wooden porch! I no longer have to wade through many unshoveled sidewalks, yellow snow, or endure multiple days of gray, sunless skies, and cabin fever is a thing of the past. Just like everything else, to each their own.
The whole planet is warming. that's why Florida summers feel warmer in last 10 years.

[Stu from NYC]

You -do- realize what happens to hurricanes when they travel 75 miles inland, don't you?

Thinks that somehow GW will reverse that so they will get stronger. Anyone know if he has bought an EV yet so as to reduce his carbon footprint?

[asianthree]

So I am reading many will take the summer heat of Florida over winters up north.

It’s never winter up north when it’s 100 in Florida.

Maybe response should be I don’t own two residents, so would rather live full time in Florida than full time in snow country. Selling cold weather home for permanent home in TV.

All of of friends in TV, leave to either travel to their second home. Or travel extensively during summer returning in the fall.

[Nancy@Pinellas]

We’re from Michigan. We moved without doing seasonal visits. It’s hot, terribly hot. We do things in the mornings and evenings during the summer. We always take cold water with us wherever we go. We’ve adapted. We’d rather bear the heat than the cold. Good luck with your decision.

[JMintzer]

We’re from Michigan. We moved without doing seasonal visits. It’s hot, terribly hot. We do things in the mornings and evenings during the summer. We always take cold water with us wherever we go. We’ve adapted. We’d rather bear the heat than the cold. Good luck with your decision.

Who do you think you are, being all rational and sensible? :icon_wink:

Cute doggo, by the way!

[Joe C.]

As much as I prefer the northern winters over Florida summers, I do have to admit one thing:

A cold beer tastes much better in a hot Florida summer!

[Pairadocs]

I assume the comparison is cold/snow vs. heat, not tornados vs. hurricanes.


I've lived in the North, during the winter, when I was unable to leave the house for a day or two or three (many times).

I've never been trapped in the house, during the summer, for a day or two or three in Florida.

:ho:

Right on ! When snow has drifted your DOORS and windows, and it's so heavy you can't go out until is gets down a bit, it does not compare to just going for a plunge in your own, or the nearest pool, or go to the beach (where the breezes never stop even on a hot day). Raised in south Florida, much more tropical, career wise lived in Illinois and in Iowa for a time.... talk about HOT ! Hot and the humidity generated by acres of corn, soy beans, etc. etc. and temperatures of 102, 104... just awful, summer or winter !

[jasamy]

It takes a couple of summers to get use to the heat and humidity here in Florida. Then you tell yourself it’s still easier to stay indoors in AC or in the pool than it is to stay indoors, turn up the heat, look out at the dreary sky, and kiss your money good bye when the heating bills come in month after month. Granted it doesn’t snow every day but what is there to do during the winter if you don’t ski? It’s all about the lifestyle, the sunny weather without worrying about the icy roads or shoveling snow is just an added benefit one learns to live with.

[beckylou152]

I also am from Michigan. You just can’t beat Michigan summers and fall! We didn’t want two houses either so we have a house here, which we love (sunshine most every day all the time), and a park model in a resort up in Michigan. We come back here to Florida in September, which is hot, and leave in May. We visit a few times here each summer, and it is hot. But the bonus is you can get in to restaurants, golf, etc very easily because of the decrease in population. I love both places. I do miss my friends from TV when I’m up north but they welcome me back when I get back. So my answer to you is that you have to decide. Maybe come for a visit in July or August and we how you do!

[Chandra10100]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.


You get used to it. You never have to shovel sunshine. It does get HOT somedays but never so hot that I wish I wasn’t here full time. Amazingly enough, the warm helps my aches and pains stay at bay. It’s like living with a heating pad !

[Blueblaze]

Is a Florida summer worse than a New York winter? OMG yes! In August, it often exceeds 90 degrees for days on end! The humidity lingers at 70% for hours and hours until the rain comes and shoots it all the way up to 100%! The wind howls perpetually at 10 mph! Your electric meter spins like a top as your A/C labors against the onslaught! Heck, last year it broke 100 at least twice! And don't even get me started on the hurricanes! Imagine the horror! Even worse, if you could stand to venture out into this hellish landscape, the golf courses are a deserted! You'd have to play alone without the pleasant half-hour party with your friends as you wait for your tee time! Heck, this place is so deserted in August that you won't even find anyone at BJ's to help you figure out the gas pump!

For crying out loud, people! If you have a home elsewhere to escape to, then run for your lives the moment it breaks 80! Seriously, you don't need to stay here more than a couple of pleasant 50 degree months in the winter to deposit the manna we Florida victims need to survive in this hellish place. Save yourselves!

[Betty Wagner]

Lived in Minnesota almost half my life. Great when I was a kid. Drove in heavy snow, ice, spent long hours stuck in winter traffic. Later in retirement, Hated the snow and ice and double digit below zero temps. Ice in the lakes, grey, dreary landscape, winters lasting into April. Wouldn't trade off for constant green, gardening year round. Hot? Stay in during afternoon, read, watch old movies, go to the pool. Love it here.

[ThirdOfFive]

Why does it have to be either-or? Both realities have their attractions.

I admit to being nervous about moving here because of the "horrible heat" mantra I heard from so many others. But after nearly four years here now, full-time, I've come to the happy realization that I LOVE the heat of a Florida summer. More than a Florida winter, as a matter of fact. Summers are greener and thus far more attractive to the eye than winter here. I walk 5-6 miles a day and that doesn't stop when summer comes: I just walk a bit more slowly and try to remember my water bottle, but even if I forget I can count on people in golf carts stopping to offer me a ride or even (as has happened many times) a bottle of water! Besides the halfway point of my walk happens to be a Publix store: Spend a couple of bucks more or less on an ice-cold 20-ounce bottle of unsweetened iced tea and I'm all primed and ready for the stretch run. And golf--who doesn't like knowing that you can pretty much go to the course of your choice at any time after 12:00 noon and get on? Sure, it's hot--but fewer people and overall prettier courses are big advantages.

My experience with winter happens to be Minnesota where I lived year-round for 70-odd years, many of those years in or north of Duluth, and as Mark Twain once observed, the worst winter he ever spent was a summer in Duluth. Yeah, it's cold--I remember walking for a mile the morning the cold temp. record of -60 (not windchill, but actual temperature) was recorded. And you can count on snow on the ground usually for six months out of the year in the more northern reaches of the North Star State. (Not this year, but they deserved a break from Mama Nature). But Minnesotans have a pretty unique way of dealing with winter. Snowshoe baseball, for example. XC skiing. Ice fishing. Hockey. Water skips...for those unknowing, water skips are organized events held on frozen lakes where a long rectangular hole about 100 yards or so long is cut in the ice, and people try to ride a snowmobile on the open water from one end to the other. It can be done; the key being enough speed when you hit the water so that the machine planes out and doesn't sink. A fun part of such entertainment is usually at the end, when people try to set the record of "most people on a snowmobile driving over open water" (or some such). At one event I saw eleven people, admittedly pretty well oiled up on peppermint schnapps, try it. Unfortunately they sank about 10 yards short of the goal. But after the eleven plus their machine were fished out, festivities continued on as usual.

Overall I'll take summers here over winters there, mainly because my arthritis slackens dramatically in the heat of a Florida summer. But that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy both.

[Marmaduke]

We have been stuck in a house for three days because of snow & ice and it was not 1950.

chilout
Speaking of being "stuck" in the house, do you (gasp) remember the days of Covid? We had just arrived about 2 years before as early retirees.

Everyone in the free state of Florida was outside, enjoying life to the fullest, within 3 months of that lockdown, albeit at 50% capacity for most pools and inside activities. Living the good life. We never felt the summers to be unbearable here.

"It" (the pandemic) broke in January and we never felt the heat as we enjoyed the outdoors. .. all Spring and all Summer long in 2020, while our families stayed indoors... locked down in many states up north.

My point is that there was no place we would've rather been, than Florida, before, during or after the CDC lockup.

It's georgeous here. It's bright, sunny and hot on most summer days, and a newcomers body usually adapts pretty quickly in most cases. A little has to do with learned outlooks and behavior regarding adapting to newer environments.
Granted, some folks never adapt, but no one in our circle of friends stops doing things, they just "adjust" what/ when/ where to ENJOY life during the dog days of summer. Personally, I can't wait!

[RedChariot]

I assume the comparison is cold/snow vs. heat, not tornados vs. hurricanes.


I've lived in the North, during the winter, when I was unable to leave the house for a day or two or three (many times).

I've never been trapped in the house, during the summer, for a day or two or three in Florida.

:ho:

So agree! Think about that snow and ice and having to drive in it! The cols where you cant get warm. We have our own pool, but there are community pools everywhere. We love the heat of Florida summer for swimming. Yes the car gets really hot when parked somewhere. But everywhere is air conditioned.

[Justputt]

To the OP: Are you tired of winter doldrums, snow, cold, bundling up just to get the mail, ice, ice storms and power outages, wondering if your car will start in the morning without an engine block heater? Does it seem like winter lasts 6 months? Our answer was yes, so we bought in TV. For the 2-3 months where summer (typed simmer at first by mistake, but maybe not such a mistake), you can always visit old friends and family, and it seems cheaper to rent a nice place up north in the summer than a nice place in the south during winter. Our A/C seems cheaper to run than the heater, a nice beach is just a daytrip away, and we don't have to shovel snow or pay someone to. We can drive up to Maine, rent cabin on the lake, enjoy the summer, pack up and come home without worrying about winter upkeep. If we want to go out west to see one of our kids, there's no second home dragging us down. In short, with TV as our base, we can spend summer wherever we want without feeling guilty about keeping a second home that won't be fully used.

[SusanStCatherine]

Cold kills many more people than heat.
This past winter here in The Villages was rather cloudy and rainy. And the summer of 2023 was exceptionally hot confirmed by lifelong Floridians. I will be disappointed if this trend continues. But we are in El Niño and should soon be getting La Niña.
We are full time here and love the summers and as others have said it is not crowded at all.
There are individual tolerances to heat and cold so only you can decide for you.
I often see very old people golfing at 1pm mid-summer. My husband is from Minnesota and loves the heat here even in the summer.

[Normal]

It gets to be almost 100 here in the summer. It gets to the negative 20s in the winter up north. You should probably be looking at Hawaii, not Florida. The temps there are pretty consistent year round.

[Eagles8]

The summers are not nearly as bad as some make them out to be.
Is it hot, yes, that's why you move to Florida. I lived in the Northeast,
same heat and humidity, just instead of 20 or so day's it's 60 or so.
Which is nice...if you like the heat. If you don't do the snowbird thing.
No thank you from me, I prefer being warm.

[jimjamuser]

Speaking of being "stuck" in the house, do you (gasp) remember the days of Covid? We had just arrived about 2 years before as early retirees.

Everyone in the free state of Florida was outside, enjoying life to the fullest, within 3 months of that lockdown, albeit at 50% capacity for most pools and inside activities. Living the good life. We never felt the summers to be unbearable here.

"It" (the pandemic) broke in January and we never felt the heat as we enjoyed the outdoors. .. all Spring and all Summer long in 2020, while our families stayed indoors... locked down in many states up north.

My point is that there was no place we would've rather been, than Florida, before, during or after the CDC lockup.

It's georgeous here. It's bright, sunny and hot on most summer days, and a newcomers body usually adapts pretty quickly in most cases. A little has to do with learned outlooks and behavior regarding adapting to newer environments.
Granted, some folks never adapt, but no one in our circle of friends stops doing things, they just "adjust" what/ when/ where to ENJOY life during the dog days of summer. Personally, I can't wait!
Be careful what you wish for. The Gulf water temperatures are at record levels and could spawn hurricanes.

[sounding]

For any of you who have lived through a few Florida summers, and northern winters (e.g. Michigan), how does it compare? Is it as grueling, do you get use to it, or make every attempt to escape north during the summer month?

This is my biggest concern moving to the TV. I have owned 2 properties in the past and not something I really want to do at this point in my life. I don't mind the snow, just the gray and lack of sun.

Moved here 8 years ago, and wished I moved earlier. I moved from PA to escape the snow and ice and cold/dark winters. Bring your snow shovel, though, because it snowed in Miami in 1977, and will do so again. On January 9, 2010 there was some light snow & sleet in The Villages.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Moved here 8 years ago, and wished I moved earlier. I moved from PA to escape the snow and ice and cold/dark winters. Bring your snow shovel, though, because it snowed in Miami in 1977, and will do so again. On January 9, 2010 there was some light snow & sleet in The Villages.

Did TV activate the snow team?!
There's an old Dunkin Donuts commercial where a lone plow driver is waiting on a snowfall. One snowflake falls from the sky and he's chasing it around trying to plow it. Much ado about nothing. Although I'm sure youve seen southern 'snow' events in the past. Lack of proper equipment, panic etc and always paralyzes the region. I think we're all good for now!

[frayedends]

"The grey and lack of sun", actually can be a positive because you don't get skin cancer.

Perhaps but winter depression is real. Speaking of which we are getting 7” of snow tomorrow. March is going out like a lion. :(

[frayedends]

Hate to mention it, but by July , August, and Sept, the pool water is as HOT as bathwater. Unless you can bring a truckload of ice with you to the pool, there will be LITTLE relief. And if you have any color of car other than white, or silver, you will literally burn your hand, as in ooowwweeee big time. PS get a white cover for your steering wheel.
Oh I’m not unfamiliar. But evaporative cooling does wonders getting out of a pool. Regardless I plan on having a chiller on the pool we will be building.

[LeRoySmith]

I plan on having a chiller on the pool we will be building.

I hope the chillers work. We are about 3/4 of the way through our pool construction and I'm looking forward to cooler water when the temp hits MELT this summer.

[Heytubes]

I’ve never heard anyone say,”hey, after I retire I’m moving up north.” Having lived in cold country in both summer and winter, I find north summer worse as at least in this area we have ocean breezes at times.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I’ve never heard anyone say,”hey, after I retire I’m moving up north.” Having lived in cold country in both summer and winter, I find north summer worse as at least in this area we have ocean breezes at times.

You’re right....they don’t retire and move up north, they stay in those very homes, go to mountain retreats and lake houses and in the case of New England (which is up north btw), can go to hundreds of miles of beaches...all of which provide North Atlantic ocean breezes. And some very lucky ones, some who play on this forum, own in TV as well!

[Freeda]

We've been here 17 years. Love it year round for fdicferent reasons different parts of the year. Could never stand gray skies, ice, snow, cold weather, or heavy winter clothes again. We love being in one home year round. We aren't into stress or hardship. In summertime here we love: less traffic; easier access to restaurants; fresh local in-season produce; relaxing at less crowded pools; lots of indoor rec center activities; frequent trips to the Lake Square Mall for AMC theater viewings in comfy recliners with cutting edge technology - followed by mall walks when it's too hot to walk outside and other recreation activities available there; long golf cart rides especially down to the newer areas; less crowding at the squares; and lots of socializing with old and new friends in what seems like a more relaxed atmosphere.

[jimjamuser]

You get used to it. You never have to shovel sunshine. It does get HOT somedays but never so hot that I wish I wasn’t here full time. Amazingly enough, the warm helps my aches and pains stay at bay. It’s like living with a heating pad !
If you have a dark painted vehicle, you can BURN your hand touching the body in the summer. Also there is this little thing called HURRICANES.

[firefighter4u]

I would gladly take roughly 3+ months of air condition life over 5+ months stuck inside with the endless days of gray gloomy skies of WNY. It's like getting months of your life back IMO lol

[frayedends]

I would gladly take roughly 3+ months of air condition life over 5+ months stuck inside with the endless days of gray gloomy skies of WNY. It's like getting months of your life back IMO lol


Absolutely. Welcome to Spring in Massachusetts (this morning)

https://i.imgur.com/3BhOsAbl.jpg

[LuvNH]

OP where is your NORTH. It seems to me that none of the Northern States have the same winter. I have property in central NH and our winter is nothing like most of you describe. We rarely are shut in the house all day due to snow, we rarely have days without sun and we welcome snow because it brings MONEY into our State, it brings money into our tolls when people travel up to ski or to spend the weekend in their second homes.

So, does winter bother us, NO. There is nothing I cannot have delivered and I do not have to travel in bad weather. During the summer the weather is superb and we have AC when it gets too humid, so it really is all good.

However, I have neighbors in TV who have left Michigan and Wisconsin and describe miserable winters, so it comes down to which part of the North do you want to leave?

[sounding]

TV isn’t on the coast. No leaving for hurricanes.

Plus hurricanes have been decreasing globally - thanks to global warming.

[rustyp]

I would gladly take roughly 3+ months of air condition life over 5+ months stuck inside with the endless days of gray gloomy skies of WNY. It's like getting months of your life back IMO lol

Absolutely. Welcome to Spring in Massachusetts (this morning)

https://i.imgur.com/3BhOsAbl.jpg

For the record does the picture illustrate a day of being trapped inside?

[frayedends]

For the record does the picture illustrate a day of being trapped inside?

Well, it depends on the rest of the day. Hoping the warmup to ~40 will make the roads passable. Right now the road, while plowed and salted, is not driveable. It's sleeting out and miserable. Could I get out for important work? Yes. Is it the best decision, no. So this is trapped inside.

[Shipping up to Boston]

For the record does the picture illustrate a day of being trapped inside?

Thats a dusting for New England standards. Its raining in most of MA and the snow is falling where it is welcomed and contributes to the economy, ski country...as poster previously stated.

[frayedends]

Thats a dusting for New England standards. Its raining in most of MA and the snow is falling where it is welcomed and contributes to the economy, ski country...as poster previously stated.

This is ice. It is impossible to use the snow blower as it won't pick it up. Shovel won't get through it. Luckily we both have good 4 wheel drive vehicles and can drive over this in the driveway. I've dropped 50 lb of salt on it already. It is just now getting above freezing so hopefully this won't be too bad for too long. But in the argument about northern winter over southern summer: I can go out in both. I can do things in both. I will be uncomfortable in both, perhaps. But in Florida I put on my shorts and go out. Here I snowblow for an hour, shovel, spread 50-100 lb of salt, drive 3 mph and risk lots of accidents to go out. I can't wait to move south for good.

We are on Wachusett Mountain and this isn't helping their skiing. People prefer powder to ice sheets.

[LuvNH]

This is ice. It is impossible to use the snow blower as it won't pick it up. Shovel won't get through it. Luckily we both have good 4 wheel drive vehicles and can drive over this in the driveway. I've dropped 50 lb of salt on it already. It is just now getting above freezing so hopefully this won't be too bad for too long. But in the argument about northern winter over southern summer: I can go out in both. I can do things in both. I will be uncomfortable in both, perhaps. But in Florida I put on my shorts and go out. Here I snowblow for an hour, shovel, spread 50-100 lb of salt, drive 3 mph and risk lots of accidents to go out. I can't wait to move south for good.

We are on Wachusett Mountain and this isn't helping their skiing. People prefer powder to ice sheets.

Just heard the Mount Washington area is all powder. 18" of white powder for skiing. Ski country has been hurt this year by our warm winter. This really is great for the economy.

[rustyp]

Absolutely. Welcome to Spring in Massachusetts (this morning)

https://i.imgur.com/3BhOsAbl.jpg

For the record does the picture illustrate a day of being trapped inside?

This is ice. It is impossible to use the snow blower as it won't pick it up. Shovel won't get through it. Luckily we both have good 4 wheel drive vehicles and can drive over this in the driveway. I've dropped 50 lb of salt on it already. It is just now getting above freezing so hopefully this won't be too bad for too long. But in the argument about northern winter over southern summer: I can go out in both. I can do things in both. I will be uncomfortable in both, perhaps. But in Florida I put on my shorts and go out. Here I snowblow for an hour, shovel, spread 50-100 lb of salt, drive 3 mph and risk lots of accidents to go out. I can't wait to move south for good.

We are on Wachusett Mountain and this isn't helping their skiing. People prefer powder to ice sheets.

Honestly how many days a year does this Armageddon situation occur ? In Florida you can put your shorts on almost every day. However 90+ degrees and high humidity exists every day from mid June to mid Oct.

[LuvNH]

This is ice. It is impossible to use the snow blower as it won't pick it up. Shovel won't get through it. Luckily we both have good 4 wheel drive vehicles and can drive over this in the driveway. I've dropped 50 lb of salt on it already. It is just now getting above freezing so hopefully this won't be too bad for too long. But in the argument about northern winter over southern summer: I can go out in both. I can do things in both. I will be uncomfortable in both, perhaps. But in Florida I put on my shorts and go out. Here I snowblow for an hour, shovel, spread 50-100 lb of salt, drive 3 mph and risk lots of accidents to go out. I can't wait to move south for good.

We are on Wachusett Mountain and this isn't helping their skiing. People prefer powder to ice sheets.

I know I should not, but I am going to ask .... why are you going out? Can you really not manage for a day to wait for this to melt?, or do you have a death wish :laugh:

[frayedends]

I know I should not, but I am going to ask .... why are you going out? Can you really not manage for a day to wait for this to melt?, or do you have a death wish :laugh:

I'm not going out. Wife has to go out for work. Hoping the coming heavy rain will wash away enough to salvage Saturday night dinner. But we can stay in. No death wish. Definitely stay home when roads aren't safe.

[frayedends]

Honestly how many days a year does this Armageddon situation occur ? In Florida you can put your shorts on almost every day. However 90+ degrees and high humidity exists every day from mid June to mid Oct.

This year was extremely mild. We were in TV for most of February and hired a plow guy since I wouldn't be home. He didn't have to come out once.

Anyhow, usually total days, good question. I'd guess from, say December to March, 20 days of snowmageddon. For me, personally, being outside in the cold is not a fun experience. I'm not into snow sports. I do miss my kids playing hockey and if they were still young and playing I would not want to move south full time. But other than that I have no desire to be outside in the freezing cold.

Also to consider is the fewer daylight hours during winter up north. It really does get depressing.

[DebMil]

I left Michigan with my parents at age 15. 1969.

In a bikini on the beach or pool as a kid, I was ecstatic! We had Thanksgiving around a BBQ grill.

Many people don't believe in climate change, but, I have lived thru it here in FL.

It is horribly hot for about 4 months even reaching 100 many days with heat index at108.
It is muggy, stormy, and tons of mosquitos. In Central Florida, the lightning reminds me of Michigan storms. It's serious. Unlike S.Florida.
Many plan their day very early so they can be done by 1 ish.
The summer storms do keep you indoors.
The Winters are colder in Central Florida than we expected. 50 or60 in the day with many very windy days. Our 60 is colder because of humidity. And, here, we do have 2 or 3 days in a row with gloom.
We are subtropical. South of Lake Okeechobee is tropical.

Many folks are pretty happy in North Carolina as a suggestion.

Also, we have allergies that are quite bad 9 months of the year as everything blooms.

Keep a watch on Pollen.com

The main zip code is 32162 and 32163.

[rustyp]

I left Michigan with my parents at age 15. 1969.

In a bikini on the beach or pool as a kid, I was ecstatic! We had Thanksgiving around a BBQ grill.

Many people don't believe in climate change, but, I have lived thru it here in FL.

It is horribly hot for about 4 months even reaching 100 many days with heat index at108.
It is muggy, stormy, and tons of mosquitos. In Central Florida, the lightning reminds me of Michigan storms. It's serious. Unlike S.Florida.
Many plan their day very early so they can be done by 1 ish.
The summer storms do keep you indoors.
The Winters are colder in Central Florida than we expected. 50 or60 in the day with many very windy days. Our 60 is colder because of humidity. And, here, we do have 2 or 3 days in a row with gloom.
We are subtropical. South of Lake Okeechobee is tropical.

Many folks are pretty happy in North Carolina as a suggestion.

Also, we have allergies that are quite bad 9 months of the year as everything blooms.

Keep a watch on Pollen.com

The main zip code is 32162 and 32163.

You are going to be in trouble for speaking the truth :eclipsee_gold_cup:

[Shipping up to Boston]

This is ice. It is impossible to use the snow blower as it won't pick it up. Shovel won't get through it. Luckily we both have good 4 wheel drive vehicles and can drive over this in the driveway. I've dropped 50 lb of salt on it already. It is just now getting above freezing so hopefully this won't be too bad for too long. But in the argument about northern winter over southern summer: I can go out in both. I can do things in both. I will be uncomfortable in both, perhaps. But in Florida I put on my shorts and go out. Here I snowblow for an hour, shovel, spread 50-100 lb of salt, drive 3 mph and risk lots of accidents to go out. I can't wait to move south for good.

We are on Wachusett Mountain and this isn't helping their skiing. People prefer powder to ice sheets.

Guarantee the Crowley’s have chalked up the ‘23/‘24 ski season as a dud. Pretty sure they’re planning and preparing for Beer Festivals and the summer ahead at this point

[frayedends]

Guarantee the Crowley’s have chalked up the ‘23/‘24 ski season as a dud. Pretty sure they’re planning and preparing for Beer Festivals and the summer ahead at this point

Yeah they do a good job making snow but definitely not a great season for them.

And we just lost power. Luckily I have a whole house generator.

[Dusty_Star]

Yeah they do a good job making snow but definitely not a great season for them.

And we just lost power. Luckily I have a whole house generator.

Hopefully it comes back on soon. When I lose power in the northern winter I also lose the heat, even though it is an oil furnace, it needs the electricity to turn on. The generator sounds useful.

[frayedends]

Hopefully it comes back on soon. When I lose power in the northern winter I also lose the heat, even though it is an oil furnace, it needs the electricity to turn on. The generator sounds useful.

Power is back on already. But the generator living on a ski mountain was a great investment. We usually lose power for only a few hours. But it’s nice not worrying about it.

[JMintzer]

Be careful what you wish for. The Gulf water temperatures are at record levels and could spawn hurricanes.

If you have a dark painted vehicle, you can BURN your hand touching the body in the summer. Also there is this little thing called HURRICANES.

Which tend to dissipate when they travel 70 miles inland...

[JMintzer]

I left Michigan with my parents at age 15. 1969.

In a bikini on the beach or pool as a kid, I was ecstatic! We had Thanksgiving around a BBQ grill.

Many people don't believe in climate change, but, I have lived thru it here in FL.

It is horribly hot for about 4 months even reaching 100 many days with heat index at108.
It is muggy, stormy, and tons of mosquitos. In Central Florida, the lightning reminds me of Michigan storms. It's serious. Unlike S.Florida.
Many plan their day very early so they can be done by 1 ish.
The summer storms do keep you indoors.
The Winters are colder in Central Florida than we expected. 50 or60 in the day with many very windy days. Our 60 is colder because of humidity. And, here, we do have 2 or 3 days in a row with gloom.
We are subtropical. South of Lake Okeechobee is tropical.

Many folks are pretty happy in North Carolina as a suggestion.

Also, we have allergies that are quite bad 9 months of the year as everything blooms.

Keep a watch on Pollen.com

The main zip code is 32162 and 32163.

The weather at the beach can be quite different than the weather in Central FL...

[Dusty_Star]

Power is back on already. But the generator living on a ski mountain was a great investment. We usually lose power for only a few hours. But it’s nice not worrying about it.

Great to hear. Where I am, just got a lot of rain. (Coastal).

[frayedends]

Great to hear. Where I am, just got a lot of rain. (Coastal).

Apple weather said I was getting 7 inches. Local weather channel said a dusting to 1". We got about 2" of nasty icy crap.

I was finally able to use the snow blower to push the slush off the driveway. It's gonna be cold tonight and I didn't want an ice sheet so we are now good. All rain now.

But again, I'll take the swamp ass over this. As a younger man I could deal with this but I'm over it.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Apple weather said I was getting 7 inches. Local weather channel said a dusting to 1". We got about 2" of nasty icy crap.

I was finally able to use the snow blower to push the slush off the driveway. It's gonna be cold tonight and I didn't want an ice sheet so we are now good. All rain now.

But again, I'll take the swamp ass over this. As a younger man I could deal with this but I'm over it.

Reminds me of local legendary meteorologist Don Kent when he predicted a dusting to an inch for what became the Blizzard of ‘78. Talk about paralyzing a region. When they used to use clear glass and magic markers to draw out a forecast. Smh

[Aces4]

IF florida is that bad then you all need to try ARizona in the dead heat of 118 plus for days on end! Oh ya its a dry heat sure HOT IS HOT I have been here for 122........degrees that is......not days ! It truly is living in hell.........


I agree, if I had to choose one over the other, definitely Florida.

[Aces4]

Apple weather said I was getting 7 inches. Local weather channel said a dusting to 1". We got about 2" of nasty icy crap.

I was finally able to use the snow blower to push the slush off the driveway. It's gonna be cold tonight and I didn't want an ice sheet so we are now good. All rain now.

But again, I'll take the swamp ass over this. As a younger man I could deal with this but I'm over it.

I can see why. Not many people over the age of sixty plow/shovel their own snow in our area in middle income America, they hire contractors for that duty.

[Aces4]

Which tend to dissipate when they travel 70 miles inland...

And turn into tropical storms or tornadoes. Stay alert when one is forecast.

[Aces4]

Yeah they do a good job making snow but definitely not a great season for them.

And we just lost power. Luckily I have a whole house generator.

I have two siblings with whole house Generac generators and they are the cat’s patooty. The sibs barely notice if power goes out and it’s a seamless process. Good for you!

[Aces4]

This is ice. It is impossible to use the snow blower as it won't pick it up. Shovel won't get through it. Luckily we both have good 4 wheel drive vehicles and can drive over this in the driveway. I've dropped 50 lb of salt on it already. It is just now getting above freezing so hopefully this won't be too bad for too long. But in the argument about northern winter over southern summer: I can go out in both. I can do things in both. I will be uncomfortable in both, perhaps. But in Florida I put on my shorts and go out. Here I snowblow for an hour, shovel, spread 50-100 lb of salt, drive 3 mph and risk lots of accidents to go out. I can't wait to move south for good.

We are on Wachusett Mountain and this isn't helping their skiing. People prefer powder to ice sheets.

I imagine most people can compare your mountain weather to life elsewhere. Obviously, you’re going to have extremes in comparison.

[Aces4]

Why does it have to be either-or? Both realities have their attractions.

I admit to being nervous about moving here because of the "horrible heat" mantra I heard from so many others. But after nearly four years here now, full-time, I've come to the happy realization that I LOVE the heat of a Florida summer. More than a Florida winter, as a matter of fact. Summers are greener and thus far more attractive to the eye than winter here. I walk 5-6 miles a day and that doesn't stop when summer comes: I just walk a bit more slowly and try to remember my water bottle, but even if I forget I can count on people in golf carts stopping to offer me a ride or even (as has happened many times) a bottle of water! Besides the halfway point of my walk happens to be a Publix store: Spend a couple of bucks more or less on an ice-cold 20-ounce bottle of unsweetened iced tea and I'm all primed and ready for the stretch run. And golf--who doesn't like knowing that you can pretty much go to the course of your choice at any time after 12:00 noon and get on? Sure, it's hot--but fewer people and overall prettier courses are big advantages.

My experience with winter happens to be Minnesota where I lived year-round for 70-odd years, many of those years in or north of Duluth, and as Mark Twain once observed, the worst winter he ever spent was a summer in Duluth. Yeah, it's cold--I remember walking for a mile the morning the cold temp. record of -60 (not windchill, but actual temperature) was recorded. And you can count on snow on the ground usually for six months out of the year in the more northern reaches of the North Star State. (Not this year, but they deserved a break from Mama Nature). But Minnesotans have a pretty unique way of dealing with winter. Snowshoe baseball, for example. XC skiing. Ice fishing. Hockey. Water skips...for those unknowing, water skips are organized events held on frozen lakes where a long rectangular hole about 100 yards or so long is cut in the ice, and people try to ride a snowmobile on the open water from one end to the other. It can be done; the key being enough speed when you hit the water so that the machine planes out and doesn't sink. A fun part of such entertainment is usually at the end, when people try to set the record of "most people on a snowmobile driving over open water" (or some such). At one event I saw eleven people, admittedly pretty well oiled up on peppermint schnapps, try it. Unfortunately they sank about 10 yards short of the goal. But after the eleven plus their machine were fished out, festivities continued on as usual.

Overall I'll take summers here over winters there, mainly because my arthritis slackens dramatically in the heat of a Florida summer. But that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy both.

Duluth… ouch, no wonder you’re happy with your arthritis in The Villages.

[MacScuba]

Don’t focus on two humid months, enjoy the nice ten months. From a Michigander.

[Aces4]

The summers here are hot and humid, but I prefer that weather to no sun and the endless gray days of Michigan. I was here through Irma and was not trapped in my house. I chose not to go out, but I wasn’t forced to stay in.

Lol.

[JMintzer]

And turn into tropical storms or tornadoes. Stay alert when one is forecast.

Always alert. Just not a Panicky Pete...

[frayedends]

Okay it is pretty up here in spring. But I've been listening to ice crashing down all night. Had to go out and move my car from under a tree. I'm pretty sure I would rather Florida year round.

And to think last week my wife was suggesting I open the pool early.

https://i.imgur.com/CIO8mu5l.jpg

[Shipping up to Boston]

Okay it is pretty up here in spring. But I've been listening to ice crashing down all night. Had to go out and move my car from under a tree. I'm pretty sure I would rather Florida year round.

And to think last week my wife was suggesting I open the pool early.

https://i.imgur.com/CIO8mu5l.jpg

If you do, make sure you turn on the circulator! ;)

[rustyp]

How to survive summer in the south

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN0vG9cXDKE&t=7s

[tophcfa]

Okay it is pretty up here in spring. But I've been listening to ice crashing down all night. Had to go out and move my car from under a tree. I'm pretty sure I would rather Florida year round.

And to think last week my wife was suggesting I open the pool early.

https://i.imgur.com/CIO8mu5l.jpg

Nice picture, that’s very similar to what it looks like right now at our home up north. Very glad to NOT be there and instead be swimming, golfing, and bike riding in the Villages : )

[PoolBrews]

But the value is corrupted.:22yikes: We have friends who live full-time in Florida and they all say the summer heat in murder. At least when it is cold, people can go out during the daytime and don't have to stay housebound. I'm only suggesting the OP consider the downside of full-time Florida living when he could alter his schedule to have it all.

We have a lot of friends, and their thoughts don't support your comment that "all say the summer heat is murder". Many of them are snowbirds, but many are also year round here in Florida. Of those that are here in Florida, only a few think it's too hot in the summer. We are part of the group that live here year round. It's a matter of adjusting over time. If you are snowbirds, then you never really adjust. I would bet that the majority of snowbirds thinks it's too hot here in the summer AND too cold up north in the winter. They are no longer adjusted to any extremes.

For us (originally from Michigan), the big difference is that when up north in the coldest part of winter, you were stuck in your home with nothing to do and running the heater. If you went outside, it was uncomfortable - period. There was not much of anywhere to go, and certainly nothing to do outside. Here in Florida, in the hottest parts of summer, you can sit inside with air conditioning (no different than running heat up north), but you can also go out and enjoy a pool. In addition, the temps are much better early in the morning and late in the evening, so you can still get out and do something. Coming from Michigan, the coldest part of winter was far longer than the hottest part of summer in Florida.

[LeRoySmith]

originally from Michigan

I'm sorry about that....:)





go buckeyes

[asianthree]

I know I should not, but I am going to ask .... why are you going out? Can you really not manage for a day to wait for this to melt?, or do you have a death wish :laugh:

Because if you have live most of your life in the north, going out even In sketchy weather has been a norm your whole life.

When our kids went to college in the south, the first snow (1” using snow term loosely) jumped in their 4x4 to go shopping, cause that’s what you do when school is closed, no ski lodge available.

I still remember their first phone call “Every thing is closed what is wrong with people is just Snow”

Bonus for our son, he would pick up all the employees in his Jeep, drive to their restaurant, only place open. Made a killing because it snowed an inch, making everyone happy there was hot food.

[Two Bills]

Because if you have live most of your life in the north, going out even In sketchy weather has been a norm your whole life.

When our kids went to college in the south, the first snow (1” using snow term loosely) jumped in their 4x4 to go shopping, cause that’s what you do when school is closed, no ski lodge available.

I still remember their first phone call “Every thing is closed what is wrong with people is just Snow”

Bonus for our son, he would pick up all the employees in his Jeep, drive to their restaurant, only place open. Made a killing because it snowed an inch, making everyone happy there was hot food.

Ye Gods! If England had an inch of snow, the country would grind to a total halt.
Half an inch is enough to close schools, non-essential services and all public transport.
Successive generations have no idea how to live with, or handle the stuff.
Not so bad in Scotland as they still get plenty of the white stuff.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Ye Gods! If England had an inch of snow, the country would grind to a total halt.
Half an inch is enough to close schools, non-essential services and all public transport.
Successive generations have no idea how to live with, or handle the stuff.
Not so bad in Scotland as they still get plenty of the white stuff.

Forget about England...if it snowed an inch in TV, most not all would be in a total panic. Everybody knows how to operate in the heat of summer. Not so much if you encounter snow/ice unless you're from the north

[Two Bills]

Forget about England...if it snowed an inch in TV, most not all would be in a total panic. Everybody knows how to operate in the heat of summer. Not so much if you encounter snow/ice unless you're from the north

I was under the impression that TV population were all from the North!
None seem to find anything local as good as it was "up North!"

[Shipping up to Boston]

I was under the impression that TV population were all from the North!
None seem to find anything local as good as it was "up North!"

I can't speak to the origins of 150K residents of TV General Lee...Also, I think that there is a lot of good give and take on here regardless of where you came from. Unfortunately you sometimes have to deal with some early settlers to TV that have done so lock stock and barrel, have no other comparisons to draw from anymore....and think we all think the same on a host of issues presented on this forum. Breaking News sir...it doesn't and we dont