Brownwood “What Up”

[DrMack]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

[Bill14564]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

Start with your local representatives to the US Congress. A Constitutional Amendment limiting that kind of freedom would have to start there.

I feel old people dancing suggestively is inappropriate, who do I call to address this?

I feel ignorant comments on a forum are inappropriate, who do I call to address this?

I feel the smell of burning animal flesh coming from the restaurants around the square is inappropriate, who do I call to address this?

[vintageogauge]

Trolling for replies

[Laker14]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

You are asking what you can do to make other people dress in a way you approve, in a public space?
I hate to break this to you, but the answer is, in this case, "nothing". If you are deeply offended by what others wear, your only course of action is to stay home, and not expose yourself to others' taste in clothing.

You could move to a strictly gated, private community, where others with your taste in dress can establish a dress code, enforceable by limiting membership into your private club. However, the squares in TV are not private. And TV is not a gated community.

[Normal]

There is nothing that can be done about it. Brownwood is in the center of Wildwood. You are bound to run across this as a more typical thing more sooner than later. Several low cost housing developments are opening up near the square. Live with it or go to another square.

It isn’t a golf course you know. Polos are not required.

[LeRoySmith]

The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing.

Time for an atomic wedgie!

[Bogie Shooter]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[MrFlorida]

The squares are open to the general public....carry if you don't feel safe.

[golfing eagles]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

A more pertinent question would be whether or not these were the same individuals trolling for open car doors along Neighborly Way in Lake Deaton late that night.

[dewilson58]

Who do we call to address this?

Ghostbusters.

[Stu from NYC]

There goes the neighborhood:posting:

[Keefelane66]

For some at the Squares Spandex should be banned.

[coralway]

Just what we need, another Ken

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I checked the search engine for "whitetail look" then whitetail look meme then whitetail meme then whitetail then whitetail urban dictionary - and the only reference to something that wasn't an actual whitetail deer, was about a guy who tries to goose a girl, and the girl backs away quick, leaving the guy with his hand in a weird position that looks like the horn of a whitetail deer.

So no idea what the OP is talking about there.

Wondering what these 4 people were *doing* that made them look sketchy. I mean other than outdated faux-thug-fashion from the 2000's and 2010's.

While he was checking out these sketchy fashion failures, did he happen to notice any grown-arse adult men wearing flip flops? If he did, did he notice any with nasty toenail fungus? Because I've totally witnessed THAT dereliction of civility, that left me with the desire to not buy an oversized pretzel at WOB, but spend that $10 on another drink at the tiki hut instead.

[shut the front door]

OP cannot possibly be telling the truth! These kind of people are only seen in the northern sections of the villages according to the wildwood folks! They can't possibly be hanging out in the city with the highest crime rate in a 50 mile radius!

[Normal]

So low rent areas next to a town square are an issue for some? That just goes to show you how sheltered some can be. This will just help the Developer sell in the newer more bubbled area. It’s a win-win!

Imagine, Wildwood being a criminal area. It always has been and will be all the more with the increased concentration of low income households.

[LeRoySmith]

An additional drink is always a better option than a pretzel (and I like pretzels)

[BrianL99]

I've always thought TV should have a self-appointed, Fashion Police Dept. They sure could keep busy, although "droopy jeans" probably wouldn't be the first thing I'd want them to focus on.

& I think "showing underwear" is a step in the right direction. I've seen a few around going Commando, who shouldn't.

[Pairadocs]

Start with your local representatives to the US Congress. A Constitutional Amendment limiting that kind of freedom would have to start there.

I feel old people dancing suggestively is inappropriate, who do I call to address this?

I feel ignorant comments on a forum are inappropriate, who do I call to address this?

I feel the smell of burning animal flesh coming from the restaurants around the square is inappropriate, who do I call to address this?

Well said ! I do believe these types of questions come up so often because there is not end to (possibly??) new residents who somehow (?) get the idea that the Villages is some kind of private senior development ? And, who often seem to believe (?) that the "squares" are some how private little retail areas ? It does boggle the mind sometimes, however, do others on here sometimes get the impression that no one is really so naive as to think there are dress codes for public shopping plazas and malls ? Me thinks perhaps some just post such things to "enjoy" the "reactions" ? LOL ?

[LeRoySmith]

I've always thought TV should have a self-appointed, Fashion Police Dept. They sure could keep busy, although "droopy jeans" probably wouldn't be the first thing I'd want them to focus on.

& I think "showing underwear" is a step in the right direction. I've seen a few around going Commando, who shouldn't.

My first taste of the snow bird invasion was a tribe of middle to late 60s NY/NJ ladies at Brownwood one evening in early December. They were dressed like tramps, loud and mouthy and had on enough dimestore perfume for the biggest whore house in Texas. They were a specticle to say the least.

I was more than a little shocked and entertained. I thought it was a gag for the first several minute then I realized they were serious.

[Pairadocs]

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yes, LOL, LOL, but just look at all that actually took the comment seriously ! ! ! Then the puzzling correlation between lower cost (no such thing a "low" cost) housing and walking around with your underwear showing in public ? Wonder how many people who work everyday in services that make life so pleasant and convenient for villages seniors live in lower cost housing; the waiters, clerks, those who clean houses and mow lawns, who work in fast food, at grocery stores and auto tire establishments, wash houses and clean gutters...... have not worked as long as village residents yet, so must find affordable homes, actually do walk around like described ? Think this might be a joke to see who will "bite" ?

[Pairadocs]

Ghostbusters.

Exactly, Call Pants Busters, get the app NOW !

[Normal]

YThen the puzzling correlation between lower cost (no such thing a "low" cost) housing and walking around with your underwear showing in public ?


1300 a month may be high living for you and your taste, but not for most.
https://www.apartments.com/the-wilds-at-trailwinds-wildwood-fl/hy65sn0/

[dhdallas]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

Wait until you get a look at that skinny freakazoid guy who wears a black dress & dances in front of everyone. Sick!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I've always thought TV should have a self-appointed, Fashion Police Dept. They sure could keep busy, although "droopy jeans" probably wouldn't be the first thing I'd want them to focus on.

& I think "showing underwear" is a step in the right direction. I've seen a few around going Commando, who shouldn't.

Or that ONE geezer at the pool with the overly baggy bermuda shorts, who sits at the edge of the pool, legs apart.

[fdpaq0580]

Did no one else notice the irony of the OP' tag line is "Born to be wild"? Makes the post totally hilarious in my book?
😁😆😅🤣😂🙈🙉🙊💣

[Ele201]

I checked the search engine for "whitetail look" then whitetail look meme then whitetail meme then whitetail then whitetail urban dictionary - and the only reference to something that wasn't an actual whitetail deer, was about a guy who tries to goose a girl, and the girl backs away quick, leaving the guy with his hand in a weird position that looks like the horn of a whitetail deer.

So no idea what the OP is talking about there.

Wondering what these 4 people were *doing* that made them look sketchy. I mean other than outdated faux-thug-fashion from the 2000's and 2010's.

While he was checking out these sketchy fashion failures, did he happen to notice any grown-arse adult men wearing flip flops? If he did, did he notice any with nasty toenail fungus? Because I've totally witnessed THAT dereliction of civility, that left me with the desire to not buy an oversized pretzel at WOB, but spend that $10 on another drink at the tiki hut instead.

I googled the “whitetail look” as well, never heard of it! What came up were images of “deer hunting camo clothing,” for sale by various companies. So, I’m guessing the OP might be referring to camo, or camouflage style clothing.

[Bellavita]

It is open to the public

No shirt no shoes no service didn’t say underwear showing.

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

[GizmoWhiskers]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?
Hold up a min.

Love how quick totv long-time posters with their states proudly posted at the bottom of their posts attack the OP for voicing what ultimately can be a legit symptom of a systemic actual concern.

Setting clothing, urban dictionary, profiling aside, OP has an observation that should not be made fun of or simply ignored.

Wtf actual BUBBLE do Villagers think they live in!??

What states are new and old villagers leaving and WHY?

I am a local, 40 year Central FL transplant. I can attest to urban sprawl and once beautiful cities gone to complete crap. Pine Hills, FL. Let's see our Villages friends say they want to move there now. Hiawassee area, who is game? Ready to pack and take a night strole in the bowls of Sanford?

OP is misinformed about who controls Brownwood big deal! T V is a complete facade. The Villages Developers SELL a DREAM. Live here a while and you wake up! The town squares are not for just for Villagers and that is a good thing!

Is the T V immune from crime and degradation?? Foolish notion that it is not.

Someone said VOTE (albeit stated in a condiscending manner). Truth is CORRECT, VOTE for commissioners willing to not just sell out for the $$ (not to mention prosecutors and judges that enforce laws.)

The commissioners in the towns of Wildwood, Lady Lake, towns across FL are taking federal $$ and in exchange are agreeing to "Affordable" housing... aka urban sprawl

The concept of workers for The Villages is hog wash compared to the rate of commissioners approving the building of thousands of units of what will more than likely become low income housing but no chance of degradation to worry about there.

Is the affordable housing going to be affordable housing for more police? God bless them! We need them.

The lessor known area called T V was really blown up and put on the map around 2018 as it crossed over 44. Fast forward to the effects of poorly run northern states and mass exodus to FL (ya'll know who you are!!). Nationwide the perfect storm brewing.

Urban sprawl baby... but pull up those golf shorts and tee up players!

Wow... wake up... you think T V Bubble can't burst? How absolutely entitled and foolish are we posters on totv and people living in TV??

[Sandy and Ed]

My first taste of the snow bird invasion was a tribe of middle to late 60s NY/NJ ladies at Brownwood one evening in early December. They were dressed like tramps, loud and mouthy and had on enough dimestore perfume for the biggest whore house in Texas. They were a specticle to say the least.

I was more than a little shocked and entertained. I thought it was a gag for the first several minute then I realized they were serious.
Interesting response. Let’s see, “a tribe”? “tramps”? “whore?” Wow! How many ways can you spell Misogynist?? Bless your heart and opinion. And to think a “senior member” after only 6 months and ready to judge snowbirds after only 2 months.

[KendallW]

Back in 69' my hair was middle of my back, I remember getting the looks of what a heathen I was. Now it's Droopy drawers. Could be worse...My guess is they were scared to death of what they saw and won't be back.

[dougjb]

Being in public means putting up with the obnoxious habits and behaviors of others!

[MikeN]

There is a LOT of inappropriate behavior in the squares at night from questionable behavior, ladies looking for “company “ to over drinking. Nearby Sawgrass is not an exception. Be aware of your surroundings

[jerseyjoy]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

Coincidentally yesterday afternoon in Brownwood I noticed a young guy walking through the crowd by himself. The way he was dressed and his "head garb" caught my eye.

[ChilePepper]

the whitetail look???

[golfing eagles]

Coincidentally yesterday afternoon in Brownwood I noticed a young guy walking through the crowd by himself. The way he was dressed and his "head garb" caught my eye.

Public square. Dress as you like. Enjoy the entertainment. Go shopping. Eat at a restaurant. However, let's not be naive. Four young people in "hoodies" are not there to enjoy sixties music, shop in a boutique, or eat at Prima's. The two people in "hoodies" caught on camera on Neighborly Way at 4AM going from car to car checking to see if they were open were not out for a walk. The one young person in a "hoodie" on a warm sunny day that I personally saw walking down the entire length of our quiet street had no reason to be staring at each home along the way, unless anyone thinks he was a real estate appraiser.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Like other have reminded us, this is NOT a gated community, there are people who come from outside TV that do not have our best interests in mind, so be aware of your surroundings.

[Girlcopper]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?
Seriously? You want a law to make them pull up their pants?? lol. We’ve all been looking at underwear for years. Parents should have taught them what a belt is used for

[Girlcopper]

A more pertinent question would be whether or not these were the same individuals trolling for open car doors along Neighborly Way in Lake Deaton late that night.
And because their underpants show not they’re thieves?? Kinda dramatic assessment

[jerseyjoy]

Public square. Dress as you like. Enjoy the entertainment. Go shopping. Eat at a restaurant. However, let's not be naive. Four young people in "hoodies" are not there to enjoy sixties music, shop in a boutique, or eat at Prima's. The two people in "hoodies" caught on camera on Neighborly Way at 4AM going from car to car checking to see if they were open were not out for a walk. The one young person in a "hoodie" on a warm sunny day that I personally saw walking down the entire length of our quiet street had no reason to be staring at each home along the way, unless anyone thinks he was a real estate appraiser.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Like other have reminded us, this is NOT a gated community, there are people who come from outside TV that do not have our best interests in mind, so be aware of your surroundings.

I'm guessing the young person I saw in Brownwood was not there for shopping or eating at Prima's. And thanks for the tip about Neighborly Way, I'll skip the open house there.

[golfing eagles]

And because their underpants show not they’re thieves?? Kinda dramatic assessment

Nothing to do with underpants. Everything to do with 2 people in "hoodies" caught on camera going from car to car in a residential neighborhood checking for open door at 4 AM. Unless anyone thinks they were with community watch :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[DrMack]

I didn’t think I would get beat up so badly by an obvious deviation of our Villages norm. You don’t normally expect to see a group of teenage to early 20 males who looked like they were up to no good sporting their plaid boxers past their mid drift trolling for the easy score at Brownwood Square. I know where our child attended high school the look was banned. Maybe it is acceptable to most, just revolting to me. It’s the gang standard in some areas of the country, just not here I guess.

[ROCKETMAN]

Wait until you get a look at that skinny freakazoid guy who wears a black dress & dances in front of everyone. Sick!

That person you refer to was arrested last year in Spanish springs town square. Without going into detail to much showing. I’ll take droopy jeans anytime.:rant-rave:

[LeRoySmith]

Interesting response. Let’s see, “a tribe”? “tramps”? “whore?” Wow! How many ways can you spell ?? Bless your heart and opinion. And to think a “senior member” after only 6 months and ready to judge snowbirds after only 2 months.

Wow, I guess we now know who one of those fine upstanding ladies was. :yuck:

I love your enthusiasm but I'm anything but predigested against women, in fact my favorite people are women (or girls). I've married and spent my life with one, have 3 daughters and my dear old mom is a woman (unlike the women of today all the women in my life have girlie parts installed by the maker, not a Dr. doing no harm). The ones I dislike are the disgusting ones as mentioned above and I will call it how I see it every time. I'm truly sorry if I hurt your feelings, unless you carry on like those fine ladies were at the square and in that case my post had the exact desired affect.

[Joe C.]

To the OP:
If you didn't like what you were looking at, why didn't you approach them and ask them to hike their pants up?
Then again, maybe they heard the old rumor of the high incidence of std's in the villages and were just getting ready for a piece of the action!

[NJRICHARD]

It starts with just a few, they bring their friends, and then there are more outsiders than villagers. Then, when women go dancing and leave their pocketbooks by their chairs and they are gone, a few golf clubs go missing, etc etc. It happens very fast. So, all you 'liberal' smart-alecks with their comments, you will be the first to yell.

[Chamo]

Call the fashion police.
Are you kidding me with this post.
Stay indoors you won’t see this anymore. SMFH

[DrMack]

It starts with just a few, they bring their friends, and then there are more outsiders than villagers. Then, when women go dancing and leave their pocketbooks by their chairs and they are gone, a few golf clubs go missing, etc etc. It happens very fast. So, all you 'liberal' smart-alecks with their comments, you will be the first to yell.

Yes after reading all the other posts I should have kept my question to myself. You are right though. This particular area and square look prime for issues in the future. Maybe I should have just called Community Watch and let it just be filed for future references.

[Justputt]

If this OP makes it into the local papers, I expect a bunch of young people to show up is similar "fashion" to troll those that think like the OP! You may just start something you don't want! It would be funny. I like young people being around, and it gives them a chance to hear real music too :)

[airstreamingypsy]

I googled the “whitetail look” as well, never heard of it! What came up were images of “deer hunting camo clothing,” for sale by various companies. So, I’m guessing the OP might be referring to camo, or camouflage style clothing.

I took whitetail look to mean their jockeys were showing about their droopy pants.

[coconutmama]

I didn’t think I would get beat up so badly by an obvious deviation of our Villages norm. You don’t normally expect to see a group of teenage to early 20 males who looked like they were up to no good sporting their plaid boxers past their mid drift trolling for the easy score at Brownwood Square. I know where our child attended high school the look was banned. Maybe it is acceptable to most, just revolting to me. It’s the gang standard in some areas of the country, just not here I guess.

Sometimes to post on this site one needs to be thick skinned. Remember, “Friendliest Home Town” is pretty much just a marketing slogan.

Yes the dress code here has pretty much gone by the wayside. I remember when no one would think of wearing a t-shirt to a “country club” restaurant. LOL

We usually leave the squares early when we go. The view there can be entertaining but we expect it to get more so as the area continues to get overbuilt.

[Plmailman]

You can't stop the way people dress. It's called living in a free country.

[Wondering]

Start with your local representatives to the US Congress. A Constitutional Amendment limiting that kind of freedom would have to start there.

I feel old people dancing suggestively is inappropriate, who do I call to address this?

I feel ignorant comments on a forum are inappropriate, who do I call to address this?

I feel the smell of burning animal flesh coming from the restaurants around the square is inappropriate, who do I call to address this?
Amen!

[DrMack]

Sometimes to post on this site one needs to be thick skinned. Remember, “Friendliest Home Town” is pretty much just a marketing slogan.

Yes the dress code here has pretty much gone by the wayside. I remember when no one would think of wearing a t-shirt to a “country club” restaurant. LOL

We usually leave the squares early when we go. The view there can be entertaining but we expect it to get more so as the area continues to get overbuilt.

Intuition is the name we use for for the filter that assembles the conscious and unconscious inputs for survival. Like sheep, the people that ignore it are already finished. There was something wrong besides fashion that night.

The Villages will whistle a different tune when Wildwood police are patrolling or even responding in their town square in the middle of shows. Homeowners won’t like the rapid depreciation of values in the area either.

Again, wait till the guys in blue start making regular prime time visits.

[ShaunS]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

Wow. Now you want to tell people how to dress? Stay home.

[JRcorvette]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

With the proliferation of apartments in the area it is only going to get a lot worse!!!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It starts with just a few, they bring their friends, and then there are more outsiders than villagers. Then, when women go dancing and leave their pocketbooks by their chairs and they are gone, a few golf clubs go missing, etc etc. It happens very fast. So, all you 'liberal' smart-alecks with their comments, you will be the first to yell.

The squares are, and have always been, open to the public.

You have the right to be offended by that. There are steps you can take in protest. The most obvious choice is - don't go to the squares. Boycott them. I recommend you boycott them when they're having major events like the vintage car shows, fairs and festivals. In fact, I recommend EVERYONE who has a problem with the public attending public events in public places, to boycott those public places.

That'll mean more room for normal people to enjoy a day or evening at an event.

[golfing eagles]

The squares are, and have always been, open to the public.

You have the right to be offended by that. There are steps you can take in protest. The most obvious choice is - don't go to the squares. Boycott them. I recommend you boycott them when they're having major events like the vintage car shows, fairs and festivals. In fact, I recommend EVERYONE who has a problem with the public attending public events in public places, to boycott those public places.

That'll mean more room for normal people to enjoy a day or evening at an event.

That would be the antithesis of "Nobody goes to the squares anymore, they're too crowded" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[ljarnold]

They flew the coop.

[Vermilion Villager]

My first taste of the snow bird invasion was a tribe of middle to late 60s NY/NJ ladies at Brownwood one evening in early December. They were dressed like tramps, loud and mouthy and had on enough dimestore perfume for the biggest whore house in Texas. They were a specticle to say the least.

I was more than a little shocked and entertained. I thought it was a gag for the first several minute then I realized they were serious.
You should consider yourself lucky… I've been to places where you had to pay extra for that!!!:pepper2::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[LonnyP]

Hilarious. Just Wow!

[simplesimonsaid]

Can't wait for the response if similarly dressed start wandering through neighborhoods. Could be a different tune

[golfing eagles]

Can't wait for the response if similarly dressed start wandering through neighborhoods. Could be a different tune

Your wait was over a while ago. Read posts # 9,38, and 42.

[Laker14]

I didn’t think I would get beat up so badly by an obvious deviation of our Villages norm. You don’t normally expect to see a group of teenage to early 20 males who looked like they were up to no good sporting their plaid boxers past their mid drift trolling for the easy score at Brownwood Square. I know where our child attended high school the look was banned. Maybe it is acceptable to most, just revolting to me. It’s the gang standard in some areas of the country, just not here I guess.

You made some assumptions and assumed there would be no pushback.
You assume that because someone wears their clothing a certain way, they are "up to no good".

You didn't report what in their behavior lead you the conclusion they were "up to no good". From your OP we have to conclude that your assessment was based strictly on what they were wearing. If this same group of young people were behaving in exactly the same way, but were wearing the latest Havana CC Pro Shop clothing, would you have felt more comfortable with their presence?

Before I retired I lived a block from the local high school, where once upon a time my kids attended, and even decades before that my wife attended. It's in a small town where students of widely varying ethnicities and degrees of wealth attend. Rich doctor's kids, along with kids of prisoners of the local prison.

One day a group of tough looking kids, wearing their pants down below the boxer line were walking down my street. One of them looked at me and insolently dropped his candy bar wrapper on the sidewalk, staring at me, waiting for me to say or do something. Right behind him another kid dressed exactly the same way picked it up off the ground and admonished the litterbug for doing it. So, whatever judgements I was going to make about the first kid based on dress had to be immediately reversed.

So these young people who made you feel uncomfortable may have been troublemakers, or they may just have been young people dressing to a fashion. Something we all did when we were young people.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Can't wait for the response if similarly dressed start wandering through neighborhoods. Could be a different tune

There's a guy with dreadlocks who walks down Paradise, and then over the golf cart bridge. He works at one of the restaurants, and doesn't own a car, and lives closer to Walmart. He also plays the steel drum. Sweet kid, I've picked him up in the golf cart when I've seen him on his way wherever I'm going, and given him a ride at least closer to where I found him.

There's another guy who lives in the neighborhood, he's hard-core into goth (I know - SO last Monday but there's no accounting for taste). Hair dyed jet black, pasty white skin, multiple piercings and inks, black kohl eyeliner, wears all black clothes with studded bracelets, brooding expression, the whole nine yards. I've never experienced a moment's trouble from him. Not sure which house he lives in, somewhere up Paradise. I see him walking around somewhat often. He's always going in the opposite direction from me, otherwise I'd offer him a ride too.

There are a couple of home health aids who walk to the homes, and take a bus from somewhere on 441. Same thing as the goth guy - if I ever saw one walking in the same direction I was heading, I'd offer to give them a ride at least to the Boone Gate (if they're heading home) or to the house they're working at (they work in houses either on the same street as me, or the street behind mind).

Some of us have embraced the "Friendliest Town" mentality and try to emulate the concept. Others would prefer to live in fear of "other." It's their prerogative. I spend most of my day feeling joyful about my own existence, despite the negativity and toxicity of others.

[Normal]

Next thing you know they will be banning G-Strings in the town squares.

Seriously, public school bans are totally different than town squares. I’ll bet you would have been against leather jackets when biker gangs had their surge.

[simplesimonsaid]

Your wait was over a while ago. Read posts # 9,38, and 42.

Yep. did read them. Not enough posters around at that time of night though.Daytime and early evening will get folks fired up.

[golfing eagles]

You made some assumptions and assumed there would be no pushback.
You assume that because someone wears their clothing a certain way, they are "up to no good".

You didn't report what in their behavior lead you the conclusion they were "up to no good". From your OP we have to conclude that your assessment was based strictly on what they were wearing. If this same group of young people were behaving in exactly the same way, but were wearing the latest Havana CC Pro Shop clothing, would you have felt more comfortable with their presence?

Before I retired I lived a block from the local high school, where once upon a time my kids attended, and even decades before that my wife attended. It's in a small town where students of widely varying ethnicities and degrees of wealth attend. Rich doctor's kids, along with kids of prisoners of the local prison.

One day a group of tough looking kids, wearing their pants down below the boxer line were walking down my street. One of them looked at me and insolently dropped his candy bar wrapper on the sidewalk, staring at me, waiting for me to say or do something. Right behind him another kid dressed exactly the same way picked it up off the ground and admonished the litterbug for doing it. So, whatever judgements I was going to make about the first kid based on dress had to be immediately reversed.

So these young people who made you feel uncomfortable may have been troublemakers, or they may just have been young people dressing to a fashion. Something we all did when we were young people.

There's a guy with dreadlocks who walks down Paradise, and then over the golf cart bridge. He works at one of the restaurants, and doesn't own a car, and lives closer to Walmart. He also plays the steel drum. Sweet kid, I've picked him up in the golf cart when I've seen him on his way wherever I'm going, and given him a ride at least closer to where I found him.

There's another guy who lives in the neighborhood, he's hard-core into goth (I know - SO last Monday but there's no accounting for taste). Hair dyed jet black, pasty white skin, multiple piercings and inks, black kohl eyeliner, wears all black clothes with studded bracelets, brooding expression, the whole nine yards. I've never experienced a moment's trouble from him. Not sure which house he lives in, somewhere up Paradise. I see him walking around somewhat often. He's always going in the opposite direction from me, otherwise I'd offer him a ride too.

There are a couple of home health aids who walk to the homes, and take a bus from somewhere on 441. Same thing as the goth guy - if I ever saw one walking in the same direction I was heading, I'd offer to give them a ride at least to the Boone Gate (if they're heading home) or to the house they're working at (they work in houses either on the same street as me, or the street behind mind).

Some of us have embraced the "Friendliest Town" mentality and try to emulate the concept. Others would prefer to live in fear of "other." It's their prerogative. I spend most of my day feeling joyful about my own existence, despite the negativity and toxicity of others.

Both posts are very "enlightened". Now, back to the real world-----any legitimate explanation of what the two people in hoodies caught on camera in a residential neighborhood were doing checking out cars for whether they were locked at 4AM were doing? Were they "home health aides" on the night shift? Were they looking for a venue to play a steel drum? Even the 4 described by the OP had every right to be there, but.....why? again, by description, I doubt they were interested in listening to oldies, shopping at Tommy Bahamas or eating at Prima. Better yet, why is it that some people are naive enough to think that people who are clearly out of place have nothing but benign motives for being there?

[pablo cruze]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

With a pocket full of shells.

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[Philipd411]

We were at Brownwood last night and ran across some 4 somewhat sketchy individuals traveling in a group. They were sporting the whitetail look that I feel is inappropriate. The pants were drooping down and underwear was showing. Is there a dress code that can be enforced? The couple that was with us said they came from the new apartment complex. Who do we call to address this?

Nothing can be done.

[BobnBev]

With the proliferation of apartments in the area it is only going to get a lot worse!!!

If you build it they will come--Oh, wait, they're already here. Is this a black and white issue?

[Bogie Shooter]

If you build it they will come--Oh, wait, they're already here. Is this a black and white issue?

Plenty of code words give it away.

Like “they”.

[Laker14]

Both posts are very "enlightened". Now, back to the real world-----any legitimate explanation of what the two people in hoodies caught on camera in a residential neighborhood were doing checking out cars for whether they were locked at 4AM were doing? Were they "home health aides" on the night shift? Were they looking for a venue to play a steel drum? Even the 4 described by the OP had every right to be there, but.....why? again, by description, I doubt they were interested in listening to oldies, shopping at Tommy Bahamas or eating at Prima. Better yet, why is it that some people are naive enough to think that people who are clearly out of place have nothing but benign motives for being there?

I see a fundamental difference between walking around a public square during a concert, and walking around a residential street at 4AM peering into parked cars, regardless of what is being worn.
Do you not?

[Bay Kid]

America's future, sad.

[golfing eagles]

I see a fundamental difference between walking around a public square during a concert, and walking around a residential street at 4AM peering into parked cars, regardless of what is being worn.
Do you not?

I do. Which is why I posed my original question of whether or not they could be the same people.

But even in the square, where they have every right to be, I question what the attraction would be for these young people. The oldies music? The high-priced restaurants? The specialty boutiques? In general, when a fox is in the henhouse he's not there sightseeing.

[Laker14]

America's future, sad.

I remember my parents' generation saying that when we were trying to grow our hair past our ears and eyebrows, wearing tight bell-bottoms, and listening to the same music we now hear on WVLG, and dance to with our pot bellies and golf shirts at the squares.

I think we have bigger problems than the clothing that teenagers wear on a Friday night.

[Laker14]

I do. Which is why I posed my original question of whether or not they could be the same people.

But even in the square, where they have every right to be, I question what the attraction would be for these young people. The oldies music? The high-priced restaurants? The specialty boutiques? In general, when a fox is in the henhouse he's not there sightseeing.

I don't go to Brownwood Square very often, in fact I don't go to any of the squares very often, but when we do we prefer LSL. I have been there on a weekend night when there were lots of young people out and about.
To answer your question of why, perhaps we need to know more about what the options are for them.
The assumption has been made, based upon how these young people were dressed, that they were from Wildwood, and according to those making that assumption, Wildwood is rife with crime, and these young people were bringing this criminal element and mentality to Brownwood Square.
However, maybe it's different from that. Maybe, if Wildwood is in fact such a horrific place, Brownwood is a safe place, where young people, with no mayhem on their minds, can have a safe night, enjoy a wholesome atmosphere, and not be bothered by the rough characters that hang out in Wildwood.
We make assumptions based upon very superficial things. They could be correct, they could be misplaced, but they are assumptions, and we all remember what happens when we assume, right?

[Shipping up to Boston]

Maybe Brownwood Square could reinstitute the white smokers jackets, silk ascot and of course the ever aesthetically pleasing corn cob pipe!