Would like to see NYC again but how safe is it now a days?

[AMB444]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

[MrFlorida]

I would not go there unarmed...hope that answers your question.

[Pballer]

Statistics show that NYC is safer than many of the big cities in Florida. Of course it is not safer than The Villages where most of the residents are too old to commit crime.

[LeRoySmith]

I went once, that's enough.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Going in May. Historically, always super vigilant in NYC, this trip will be no different. It’s never been Disney World nor Mayberry but it’s a great city to visit. I’m usually in Greenwich Village or Little Italy anyway so I would be disappointed if I didn’t see a little underbelly of society on my way there. Don’t be scared off....just be aware

[AMB444]

I would not go there unarmed...hope that answers your question.

Lol...thanks! I knew I could count on TV forum to be brutally honest.

[AMB444]

I’m usually in Greenwich Village or Little Italy anyway so I would be disappointed if I didn’t see a little underbelly of society on my way there.

That's where my friends and I would hang out. Was a lot of fun!

But I was much younger then and had quicker reflexes if there was trouble. :duck:

[Shipping up to Boston]

That's where my friends and I would hang out. Was a lot of fun!

But I was much younger then and had quicker reflexes if there was trouble. :duck:

If you go....

John's of Bleecker St. - Greenwich Village, New York, NY (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://johnsofbleecker.com/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwif1MqxqpqFAxVZkYkEHTxvCq8QFnoECAgQAg&usg=AOvVaw19snPoe5hTwefkPdtxevqy)

[AMB444]

If you go....

John's of Bleecker St. - Greenwich Village, New York, NY (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://johnsofbleecker.com/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwif1MqxqpqFAxVZkYkEHTxvCq8QFnoECAgQAg&usg=AOvVaw19snPoe5hTwefkPdtxevqy)

That looks so dang good! I'm getting the spinach ravioli. :icon_hungry:

[frayedends]

I went last year for a few days. It’s crazy crowded anyplace a tourist would go. It didn’t seem unsafe. At least not from a violence perspective. Watch out for scammers and pick pokets. Don’t go down any dark alleys.

[Stu from NYC]

You should be fine but dont wander away by yourself with nobody around

[blueash]

NYC crime rate statistics are available in an easy to read format HERE

Crime Stats - Historical - NYPD (https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/crime-statistics/historical.page)

Realist assessment of the risk is discussed

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/trump-bragg-new-york-manhattan-nypd-4c0cb6ef067b2e3f2358ec9542c900cd)

You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates (https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/)

Ocala is much more dangerous than NYC.
Leesburg is much more dangerous than NYC.

Orlando is much more dangerous than NYC.
Peoria IL is much more dangerous than NYC.
Phoenix is much more dangerous than NYC.

I know certain news media loves to attack and endlessly play videos of crimes but NYC is safer than most cities in the US.

[fdpaq0580]

There is an old saying, "you can't go home". Everything changes over time.

[AMB444]

You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates (https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/)

Compare The Villages to NYC! Not sure I believe that...

[tophcfa]

Had to go there frequently during my working days. Now retired, don’t have to go there anymore, and won’t ever return. Way too many people in too small of a place.

[Two Bills]

Compare The Villages to NYC! Not sure I believe that...

I read the post three times, and never saw that quote.

[Shipping up to Boston]

NYC crime rate statistics are available in an easy to read format HERE

Crime Stats - Historical - NYPD (https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/crime-statistics/historical.page)

Realist assessment of the risk is discussed

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/trump-bragg-new-york-manhattan-nypd-4c0cb6ef067b2e3f2358ec9542c900cd)

You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates (https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/)

Ocala is much more dangerous than NYC.
Leesburg is much more dangerous than NYC.

Orlando is much more dangerous than NYC.
Peoria IL is much more dangerous than NYC.
Phoenix is much more dangerous than NYC.

I know certain news media loves to attack and endlessly play videos of crimes but NYC is safer than most cities in the US.

Totally agree with the latter part of the post. The media, take your pick preys on the uniformed. You know, the ones that watch cable news and fall asleep to the blue screen.

That said, crime statistics are based per capita.....so if little old Podunk KY (not sure if that’s a real one!) , has a double murder/suicide, effectively, for that day at least....is the most dangerous town in the country. You can correct me if that’s wrong but these types of statistics can be misleading and at the least ambiguous

[AMB444]

I read the post three times, and never saw that quote.

I went to the link that was provided in that post for comparing two cities. And then put in TV and NYC. Was interesting.

[AMB444]

That said, crime statistics are based per capita.....so if little old Podunk KY (not sure if that’s a real one!) , has a double murder/suicide, effectively, for that day at least....is the most dangerous town in the country. You can correct me if that’s wrong but these types of statistics can be misleading and at the least ambiguous

It is interesting how the stats are used to come to these results.

Take a look at St Louis, Kansas City (very dangerous) vs NYC.

[Topspinmo]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)


TIA

Why? Why do you think they escape from NY when they can? :pepper2:

[Badger 2006]

Statistics show that NYC is safer than many of the big cities in Florida. Of course it is not safer than The Villages where most of the residents are too old to commit crime.

Lets see those statistics!

[Badger 2006]

NYC crime rate statistics are available in an easy to read format HERE

Crime Stats - Historical - NYPD (https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/crime-statistics/historical.page)

Realist assessment of the risk is discussed

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/trump-bragg-new-york-manhattan-nypd-4c0cb6ef067b2e3f2358ec9542c900cd)



You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates (https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/)

Ocala is much more dangerous than NYC.
Leesburg is much more dangerous than NYC.

Orlando is much more dangerous than NYC.
Peoria IL is much more dangerous than NYC.
Phoenix is much more dangerous than NYC.

I know certain news media loves to attack and endlessly play videos of crimes but NYC is safer than most cities in the US.

Today (3/29/24) the Governor of NY was turned away at the wake for slain NYPD Officer Jonathan Diller at a funeral home on Long Island Today. Clapping could be heard as she left. Wanna take the subway when you go there? With the disconnect of law enforcement, and the city and state government, for myself I don’t put much stock in those comparisons.

[AMB444]

Why? Why do you think they escape from NY when they can? :pepper2:

:clap2:

[Kelevision]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

I go fairly often. I’ve never thought about being scared. Just pay attention and you’ll be fine. It’s my favorite city. I’ll be there in Dec. I take the subway alone. Walk the streets alone and have never felt unsafe. ( not recommending you do that ) I’ve felt more unsafe in downtown Orlando.

[JMintzer]

I go fairly often. I’ve never thought about being scared. Just pay attention and you’ll be fine. It’s my favorite city. I’ll be there in Dec. I take the subway alone. Walk the streets alone and have never felt unsafe. ( not recommending you do that ) I’ve felt more unsafe in downtown Orlando.

I've visited NYC many, many times. I've always enjoyed the trip, but after a few days, I couldn't wait to leave... The stench of the subways, the filth in the streets wear on you...

Of, late, The National Guard patrolling the subways (due to the increased crime/attacks on the train platforms and in the train cars) give me pause...

The noticeable increase in random women getting punched in the face while walking down a busy street give me pause...

The random attacks, stabbings, shootings, give me pause...

That said, I don't see myself visiting any time soon...

[Stu from NYC]

We do miss it

Miss the outstanding ethnic foods we used to have regularly.

Miss Broadway shows and all the things NYC has to offer.

Still would never move back at this stage of our life

[AMB444]

Miss the outstanding ethnic foods we used to have regularly.

I was wondering about this... are there any good Thai, Japanese, Indian, etc places in Ocala?

Thanks everyone for your responses!

[blueash]

Today (3/29/24) the Governor of NY was turned away at the wake for slain NYPD Officer Jonathan Diller at a funeral home on Long Island Today. Clapping could be heard as she left. Wanna take the subway when you go there? With the disconnect of law enforcement, and the city and state government, for myself I don’t put much stock in those comparisons.

So you either believe FBI data, and the methodology is shown, or you can form a conclusion based on news stories that fit your preconceived ideology. Got it.

[JMintzer]

So you either believe FBI data, and the methodology is shown, or you can form a conclusion based on news stories that fit your preconceived ideology. Got it.

I'm sure the National Guard was deployed in the subways because the FBI said NYC is safe...

[AMB444]

Oh, and for any history buffs....this is an excellent documentary about NYC.

Watch New York: A Documentary Film | American Experience | Official Site | PBS (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/new-york/)

[Stu from NYC]

I was wondering about this... are there any good Thai, Japanese, Indian, etc places in Ocala?

Thanks everyone for your responses!

No idea but there is a very good Brazilian steak house there. For good Greek go to Tarpon Springs.

Do find Sakura a good Japanese restaurant in the Bubble. Also Kayame and Kung Fu are passable Thai.

[AMB444]

Do find Sakura a good Japanese restaurant in the Bubble. Also Kayame and Kung Fu are passable Thai.

Oh yea! I'll have to try them when I get there this fall, thank you!

And yes, I agree with Tarpon Springs for Greek food... it's hard to find good Greek restaurants up here in the upper midwest.

[Bogie Shooter]

I would not go there unarmed...hope that answers your question.
There have been Villager’s that post that about going to the squares or grocery shopping……go figure.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Lived there for a week, commuted from mid town to the USCG at the Battery to take pilot exams.
No trees, no grass, LOTS and LOTS of cement and steel. .


Financial headquarters of my last company was in Brooklyn, took trains from long Island.
People just hang out on the street when there is nothing else to do, and way too many hang out at the same time.
Just a place where there are no redeeming qualities that I can't get better qualities elsewhere.

Driving down in May and going to take i287 western NJ just to avoid getting anywhere near it. .

eh, i rather go places I haven't been before. . Scandinavia is calling. .

[tophcfa]

Lived there for a week, commuted from mid town to the USCG at the Battery to take pilot exams.
No trees, no grass, LOTS and LOTS of cement and steel. .


Financial headquarters of my last company was in Brooklyn, took trains from long Island.
People just hang out on the street when there is nothing else to do, and way too many hang out at the same time.
Just a place where there are no redeeming qualities that I can't get better qualities elsewhere.

Driving down in May and going to take i287 western NJ just to avoid getting anywhere near it. .

eh, i rather go places I haven't been before. . Scandinavia is calling. .

You go way closer than I do. Take 84 to 81 in Scranton to loop way far around all the congestion.

[Velvet]

So you either believe FBI data, and the methodology is shown, or you can form a conclusion based on news stories that fit your preconceived ideology. Got it.

After having been in NYC, myself, if Moses came down from the hill and said it was safe, I wouldn’t believe it.

[bopat]

See for yourself on the Earthcam Live Times Square Cam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVftxDFol90

[Velvet]

See for yourself on the Earthcam Live Times Square Cam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVftxDFol90

Yes, like if I’m going to mug somebody I’ll make sure I do it on live camera…

[Stu from NYC]

After having been in NYC, myself, if Moses came down from the hill and said it was safe, I wouldn’t believe it.

Part of the problem is the media has to blast out the news whenever anything bad happens there.

Think NYC is safer than Chicago

[Velvet]

Part of the problem is the media has to blast out the news whenever anything bad happens there.

Think NYC is safer than Chicago

It’s not the media, it’s personal experience. Each person I know in the last I don’t know how many years has been mugged or otherwise accosted in the city - not in the suburbs. My cousin-in-law teaches college there and dresses as an “urban gorilla” in his words, to get to his classes safely. And so on. You need to be edgy, you need survival skills to get around that city.

Chicago is a great comparison. When my husband and daughter were driving to Canada on a trip they stopped at a Holiday Inn as they usually do when they are traveling. There was blood on the walls of their room. Not a city they plan to visit too soon again.

[barbara828]

We do miss it

Miss the outstanding ethnic foods we used to have regularly.

Miss Broadway shows and all the things NYC has to offer.

Still would never move back at this stage of our life
Wouldn't go back anymore. Last time I was there [ for a show, 5yrs ago] , the whole place looked like a slum.

[MplsPete]

NYC crime rate statistics are available in an easy to read format HERE

Crime Stats - Historical - NYPD (https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/crime-statistics/historical.page)

Realist assessment of the risk is discussed

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/trump-bragg-new-york-manhattan-nypd-4c0cb6ef067b2e3f2358ec9542c900cd)

You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates (https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/)

Ocala is much more dangerous than NYC.
Leesburg is much more dangerous than NYC.

Orlando is much more dangerous than NYC.
Peoria IL is much more dangerous than NYC.
Phoenix is much more dangerous than NYC.

I know certain news media loves to attack and endlessly play videos of crimes but NYC is safer than most cities in the US.

1) You can find data online :024: to support any position you wish to espouse.

2) I have heard rumors, which I choose to believe, that the police :police: in my city are increasingly refusing to take crime reports. (Due to being understaffed, and possibly, pressure from superiors.)

3) This is the best of all possible worlds. :loco:

[AMB444]

I've visited NYC many, many times. I've always enjoyed the trip, but after a few days, I couldn't wait to leave... The stench of the subways, the filth in the streets wear on you.

Yes, it's the same for London. Get to the National Gallery and Portrait Gallery. Maybe Hampton. Get a curry and get out.

[AMB444]

See for yourself on the Earthcam Live Times Square Cam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVftxDFol90

I'm viewing this at 1am central. Not sure what your point is.

I wouldn't want to be 20 miles from this. Not a place I'd want to be walking back to my apartment after a nice night out with friends. Looks like a good place to get mugged.

[RRGuyNJ]

Way too many people in too small of a place.[/QUOTE]

[
LOL That's what I say about the Villages as I try to convince myself to buy there. I'm getting closer to convincing myself.

[RRGuyNJ]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

I used to work for the RR running trains into the city [14 yrs ago]. I stay in touch with a few coworkers that tell me it's ALOT worse now. Homeless people are more aggressive, random attacks are more often. I feel there are much better places in the US I would visit first.
We have a 3 week road trip coming up in Sept. Vegas to New Orleans, should prove to be interesting.
In any case, be safe and enjoy.

[Mrfriendly]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

It’s safe. Just ask Mayor Adams.

[MikeN]

Been several times. Always feel like someone has their hand in my pocket. Never felt save. Being brought up in a large city I was always taught to be aware and careful but NYC is a totally different world

[Kelevision]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

My brother, wife and 13 year old daughter went for a week over Christmas and had a blast. Though my niece is now into all the designer stuff after seeing the windows at Saks etc. They saw Hamilton, and did a bunch of things. I was there last year and am going back in Dec. I’ve lived there and work there on occasion. I love that city. Just to eat at amazing restaurants if nothing else.

[mickey100]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

If you go to Orlando, I would certainly go to NYC.

[Caymus]

It’s safe. Just ask Mayor Adams.

....or the National Guard needed in the subway.

[nordic tug]

Statistics show that NYC is safer than many of the big cities in Florida. Of course it is not safer than The Villages where most of the residents are too old to commit crime.

Not true that NYC is safer, NYPD has for too many years played with crime numbers like changing Burglary to Larceny , Rape to Assault and so on. Traffic and parking is outrageous, speed cameras all over with speed limits on the same road going up then down . Going there, good luck and be prepared for very high costs.

[jcreason5616]

My daughter lives on Central Park in Manhattan. Has been there 20 years. I travel there a few times a year. I feel safe and so does she. But as with anywhere, she is vigilant. She no longer rides the subway unless absolutely necessary. It’s a great city with lots of culture. However, if you haven’t visited recently you will be shocked at the price of a Broadway ticket!!!

[Randall55]

My daughter lives on Central Park in Manhattan. Has been there 20 years. I travel there a few times a year. I feel safe and so does she. But as with anywhere, she is vigilant. She no longer rides the subway unless absolutely necessary. It’s a great city with lots of culture. However, if you haven’t visited recently you will be shocked at the price of a Broadway ticket!!!We visited a month ago. No plans to go back. You will be shocked at the price of EVERYTHING.

[flower7330@gmail.com]

I grew up across the Hudson in NJ and visited NYC all the time. So I'm familiar with the city. It has changed dramatically over the last 2 or decades.
I personally would not go back to the city because it is so dangerous. The reason is that no one that gets arrested is actually in jail for long. So there is no consequences to their actions.
There is a recent report about women getting punched in the face randomly for no reason what so ever. This is happening in the middle of the day with people around on the street.
If your going to go please be careful.

[kkingston57]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

Will probably get a lot of opinions here. Only way to get a true sense is by getting the actual crime statistics and even they do not give an accurate depiction of what is going on. For example if the murder rate is up and most of the murders are family/spousal related, murder rates for others might be going down. We were there last June in the Financial District. Had a great time

[Windguy]

3) This is the best of all possible worlds. :loco:

Thank you, Pangloss!

[Josephjmarchese]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

Make no mistake, every city has its dangers. Watch the local news here and you’ll see lots of violence in and around Orlando. NYC has changed from the Fear City days of the 70s-80s. Today tourist areas are well patrolled and safe. Like any other place, if you cdecide to explore the wrong area you could find trouble. Anyone bringing a gun to protect themselves better be well trained in using one in crowded areas with innocent people on the streets. Also have a license that is valid in NYC, or you may see a dangerous place, Rikers Island. Every time you travel be aware of your surroundings and if you get lost or confused, ask a cop. They’re all over the place. My Son and his wife live in Manhattan and love the city like I do. To those of you who don’t like NYC, stay safe at home, they will not miss you. I meet friends and family there all the time and give them tours, I have them bring walking shoes because it’s the best way to get around midtown.
BTW I wanted to see the Grand Canyon and hope to do so this year! I heard some people fall in, but I’m still going!

[ThirdOfFive]

What can be said about NYC can most likely be said, to a greater or lesser extent, about most major metropolitan centers in America.

To quote Mark Twain, there are three kinds of untruths: "Lies, damned lies, and statistics". Of the three, I think that statistics are the worse; they can be fudged or manipulated to way whatever the manipulator wants them to say.

Several posts have mentioned how some cities and areas play with the statistics. Post #55 for example mentions changing rape to assault, burglary to larceny, etc. Unfortunately in many areas it goes deeper than that. In many cases it is all in how the words of the presenter are strung together. I remember reading an article a few months back (can't remember where) that stated (in paraphrase) "Minneapolis has seen a significant increase in property crime these last few years, but that is slowly starting to decline". One had to read a bit further down in the article to realize that what was meant, was that the rate of INCREASE has begun to decline--such crimes are still on the increase, just not as fast.

Another example: shoplifting in Minnesota is a crime: any property taken up to the value of $500 is a misdemeanor. $500 - $1,000 a gross misdemeanor. Anything over $1,000 in value can be prosecuted as a felony. A recent report in The Minnesota Reformer (Dec. 1, 2023) indicates that "Reported cases of shoplifting in Minneapolis and St. Paul have fallen considerably since the pre-pandemic period, according to the latest data from the Council on Criminal Justice, a nonprofit tracking crime figures". Well and good...except that it has become the unwritten practice in many areas in Minnesota, not just Minneapolis, to not even report shoplifting below the $1,000 level, and even when reported shoplifting is not commonly prosecuted to the point of a conviction. In other words, what the "numbers" say is becoming more and more divorced from reality as time passes. Contrast that to the reality here, in Sumter County, where arrests for shoplifting are common, even for amounts that would get you a belly laugh if reported to law enforcement in the MSP Metro. For instance, I read not too long ago in The Online Paper That Shall Not Be Named that a shoplifter at a local Wal-Mart had been identified and tracked down by the local law--for taking things total value around $60.00! It doesn't take any great perceptual skill to realize that comparing shoplifting statistics between Minneapolis (Hennepin County) vs. those of The Villages (Sumter County) is going to give the reader a completely erroneous picture of the frequency of actual crimes being committed.

A good rule of thumb (IMO anyway): if you're trying to judge how safe a certain metro area might be, check how strongly the police are supported and empowered by the local population of that area. That should tell you what you need to know.

[MaryMS]

Was there last summer, ride the subways a lot. No problems.

[Ptmcbriz]

NYC crime statistics show there is much less crime now than in the 1990’s. Would you have visited in the 1990’s? That answers your question.

Stop listening to political hype and look at facts put out by each state. Overall, crime has been declining, not increasing the past 40 years.

What you “feel” is not hard facts. Look at statistics on actual crime.

What Caused the Crime Decline? | Brennan Center for Justice (https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/what-caused-crime-decline)

[Josephjmarchese]

I would not go there unarmed...hope that answers your question.

Have you been to NYC?

[rdna5]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

My daughter lives in NYC, Battery Park. She no longer takes the Subway.

[Angelhug52]

Grew up on LI visited, even worked in NYC. Nothing compares to the cultural experiences all in one place. Yet have found many sweet spots here in Florida that have tiny reminders of those experiences. St Augustine for history, Winter Park is like an eclectic reminder of Soho, NYC Village and some interesting eats and shops. Sarasota has a very pleasent cultural mix. Tampa is becoming as cowered as NYC. Is any place truly safe anymore? I think not. Just walk tall and be alert. I wouldn't go alone and would definitely map out where,what I want to experience. Christmas hoilday season is the only time of year I miss the city.

[Djean1981]

If I had to go, I would be armed, wear a body cam (available from Amazon), and not go anywhere alone..

[Girlcopper]

I would not go there unarmed...hope that answers your question.
It’s the same as any large city. Theres crime everywhere but if you want to hibernate that’s your choice.

[waterflower]

No Way--Plenty of other places to visit where you would not worry about your saftey. Seniors and woman are targets.

[goodoldan]

Not too many folks in Wildwood are getting shoved in front of trains... or taking a sucker punch to the head walking down the street in Brownwood.

[MandoMan]

NYC crime rate statistics are available in an easy to read format HERE

Crime Stats - Historical - NYPD (https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/crime-statistics/historical.page)

Realist assessment of the risk is discussed

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/trump-bragg-new-york-manhattan-nypd-4c0cb6ef067b2e3f2358ec9542c900cd)

You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates (https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/)

Ocala is much more dangerous than NYC.
Leesburg is much more dangerous than NYC.

Orlando is much more dangerous than NYC.
Peoria IL is much more dangerous than NYC.
Phoenix is much more dangerous than NYC.

I know certain news media loves to attack and endlessly play videos of crimes but NYC is safer than most cities in the US.

Well said! And in New York, as well as all the cities you mention, most of the violent crime is done by criminals from some minority groups against other young criminals from the same group. If you don’t fit those categories, you are really pretty safe in New York and unlikely to see any crimes. Definitely do NOT take your concealed weapon to NYC! That said, there are various scam artists in New York looking for people to scam. If you have lived in New York, you are street smart and know how to behave to avoid trouble. Lots of tourists from the sticks are NOT street smart and do stupid things that give thieves an opportunity. That said, chances are you won’t meet those people. Be awake. Pay attention. Don’t accept things from people like CDs because they will expect you to pay them. Don’t get into conversations with people. Really, while I feel safe walking most streets in Manhattan, if you are worried, maybe don’t go. New York is an amazing place. I once counted fourteen different languages being spoken in one block. It is much safer than it was forty years ago. Really, though, it’s expensive, and the sidewalks are packed with people, most better dressed than you and talking on cell phones. The streets are even more crowded. The subways are crowded and confusing if you haven’t used them before. The taxis are expensive, and there’s a good chance your driver won’t speak English and will take you the long way to where you want to go.

If you are a tourist bent on sightseeing, I’d say go to Washington, DC. The places where the tourists go are safe, it’s much less crowded, there are wonderful museums and public buildings close together, the Metro is safe and easy to use. It’s a much more relaxed place to visit.

[maistocars]

Going in May. Historically, always super vigilant in NYC, this trip will be no different. It’s never been Disney World nor Mayberry but it’s a great city to visit. I’m usually in Greenwich Village or Little Italy anyway so I would be disappointed if I didn’t see a little underbelly of society on my way there. Don’t be scared off....just be aware
Good luck! if you go down to GV or Little Italy be sure to take a cab as the subways are not good (they just announced they are installing metal detectors at all subway entrances as there has been so much crime).

[Heytubes]

I did see stats show crime in all categories have increased in the Big Apple. Hope it doesn’t rot.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Make no mistake, every city has its dangers. Watch the local news here and you’ll see lots of violence in and around Orlando. NYC has changed from the Fear City days of the 70s-80s. Today tourist areas are well patrolled and safe. Like any other place, if you cdecide to explore the wrong area you could find trouble. Anyone bringing a gun to protect themselves better be well trained in using one in crowded areas with innocent people on the streets. Also have a license that is valid in NYC, or you may see a dangerous place, Rikers Island. Every time you travel be aware of your surroundings and if you get lost or confused, ask a cop. They’re all over the place. My Son and his wife live in Manhattan and love the city like I do. To those of you who don’t like NYC, stay safe at home, they will not miss you. I meet friends and family there all the time and give them tours, I have them bring walking shoes because it’s the best way to get around midtown.
BTW I wanted to see the Grand Canyon and hope to do so this year! I heard some people fall in, but I’m still going!

Agree with the whole post....except the Grand Canyon missive. Unlike NYC, they usually (if it was a female) don’t get randomly punched in the face before ‘falling in’ to the canyon below

[MrFlorida]

Have you been to NYC?

Yes, many times , I used to travel there for business....

[Vermilion Villager]

Lol...thanks! I knew I could count on TV forum to be brutally honest.
or blatently simpleminded!! :1rotfl::1rotfl:
NYC is as safe of dangerous as any other place. There is a game you can buy in stores called "A Florida Man" So we have that!!! :crap2:

[donfey]

Statistics show that NYC is safer than many of the big cities in Florida. Of course it is not safer than The Villages where most of the residents are too old to commit crime.

Figures lie and kiars figure. With no bad guys actually staying in jail, I wouldn’t try it, especially the once beautiful Manhattan! That said, it’s true that virtually ALL big cities are corrupt and, therefore, dangerous.

[main12use]

Have you researched any tours in New York? If you are going to see the sights, I would recommend at least a one or two day tour with transportation and guide. If you are going to eat and see a show, Broadway is very walkable and easy to navigate since all the streets are numbered in order. A 20 block walk is very easy since the blocks are short and you walk fast! Lots of other people walking so hold your purse or wallet and go! It's a great place if you stay aware like in any other big city! The Broadway shows are great and pizza is delicious! Lots of good restaurants in the area of Times Square and Broadway. No worse than Rome or any other big city.

[Pamela1130]

If you go....

John's of Bleecker St. - Greenwich Village, New York, NY (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://johnsofbleecker.com/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwif1MqxqpqFAxVZkYkEHTxvCq8QFnoECAgQAg&usg=AOvVaw19snPoe5hTwefkPdtxevqy)

My son lived in the apartment right above there for a few years, right before Covid. My favorite area of NYC.

[Velvet]

Agree with the whole post....except the Grand Canyon missive. Unlike NYC, they usually (if it was a female) don’t get randomly punched in the face before ‘falling in’ to the canyon below

Yes, I haven’t heard or seen people being pushed into the Grand Canyon.

[Pamela1130]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

NYC has 8.5 M people. NYC has almost half the violent crime rate than Orlando. Miami also, the violent crime rate is much higher. There is more violent crime in Florida than New York. There are 20 US cities with higher crime rates in the entire US. Just google the stats for yourself.

[Velvet]

NYC has 8.5 M people. NYC has almost half the violent crime rate than Orlando. Miami also, the violent crime rate is much higher. There is more violent crime in Florida than New York. There are 20 US cities with higher crime rates in the entire US. Just google the stats for yourself.

Did you read the part where the police don’t collect the statistics? I do believe it is possible to live in NYC and people survive to enjoy the wonderful offerings. I have a friend who does animation, living in the most difficult area for the last 40 years and he would never leave NYC. But, I can get Sak’s designer stuff and great ethnic food in most big cities but Broadway, MET and the other art galleries etc are unmatched anywhere, in my opinion.

I was trying to answer the question is NYC safe? Well, for me, it is not.

[forebubba]

Been safer there in years.

[virtualcynthia]

There are more pluses to New York City than minuses. Don’t forget the crime statistics for New York City include the outer boroughs, but most tourists do not go to the South Bronx or Bushwick Brooklyn. Most tourists are in Manhattan, which has the theatres, the museums, the endless variety of ethnic restaurants, Wall Street, Madison Avenue, the World Trade Center, the Empire State building and on and on. A lot of what is happening now has happened in the past. I remember, there was a phase of chains snatching I stopped wearing jewelry because they were randomly grabbing the chain from your neck. I remember after 911 there was military in the railroad and the subway checking bags randomly. I remember the military actually got a station at the Long Island railroad. I left New York City not because of crime or crowding, but because of the taxes. If I could snowbird, I would.

This is an article on how to stay safe as a tourist in New York City

10 of the Most Important Travel Safety Tips for New York City (https://magazine.trivago.com/travel-safety-tips-for-new-york-city/)

[Shipping up to Boston]

There are more pluses to New York City than minuses. Don’t forget the crime statistics for New York City include the outer boroughs, but most tourists do not go to the South Bronx or Bushwick Brooklyn. Most tourists are in Manhattan, which has the theatres, the museums, the endless variety of ethnic restaurants, Wall Street, Madison Avenue, the World Trade Center, the Empire State building and on and on. A lot of what is happening now has happened in the past. I remember, there was a phase of chains snatching I stopped wearing jewelry because they were randomly grabbing the chain from your neck. I remember after 911 there was military in the railroad and the subway checking bags randomly. I remember the military actually got a station at the Long Island railroad. I left New York City not because of crime or crowding, but because of the taxes. If I could snowbird, I would.

This is an article on how to stay safe as a tourist in New York City

10 of the Most Important Travel Safety Tips for New York City (https://magazine.trivago.com/travel-safety-tips-for-new-york-city/)

I love this post!
So true. Most major cities measure city proper where as NYC and Chicago for that matter count a lot of neighborhoods that stretch many miles from the city center. It's definitely not a fair representation. And I won't even mention LA 'region'...

[Vonnie1115]

Our daughter lives and works there and we visit often. Be aware of your surroundings as you should be anytime you travel. She and we have never had a problem. It’s a great city with lots to offer. Enjoy your visit

[Blue Eyes]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA My son and family live up east and go into NYC frequently and they say it is safe. The media is scaring people. My granddaughter is going to college in NYC and feels safe. Just be cautious of your surroundings.

[sheena0904]

Was there the first week of December and it was great. Busy, but great. This was only my second time visiting NYC with the first being in the summer. Both times were awesome and I’ll go back every year for as long as I can. As other have stated, be aware of your surroundings but all the craziness you see on TV seems to be exaggerated immensely.

[Stu from NYC]

Was there the first week of December and it was great. Busy, but great. This was only my second time visiting NYC with the first being in the summer. Both times were awesome and I’ll go back every year for as long as I can. As other have stated, be aware of your surroundings but all the craziness you see on TV seems to be exaggerated immensely.

Agreed the media loves to do that

[Velvet]

Was there the first week of December and it was great. Busy, but great. This was only my second time visiting NYC with the first being in the summer. Both times were awesome and I’ll go back every year for as long as I can. As other have stated, be aware of your surroundings but all the craziness you see on TV seems to be exaggerated immensely.

Hmmm. I don’t think so. Notice how many people say, “be cautious of your surroundings”? Why do you need to “be cautious of your soundings” if it’s a safe place?

[Shipping up to Boston]

Hmmm. I don’t think so. Notice how many people say, “be cautious of your surroundings”? Why do you need to “be cautious of your soundings” if it’s a safe place?

Question...dont know if you have kids or grandkids....or if your parents did this. But 'be cautious of your surroundings' kind of transcends generations. My kids, all adults, I say the same thing to them. Does that mean I don't live in a safe place? No, one should be vigilant no matter where they travel in course of a day. You had a s**tbag a few weeks ago pummel his 'gf' and attempt to kidnap her....the infamous Mr. Savage...here in TV. Does that mean avoid that neighborhood too? It's all relative, subjective and nobody is immune to it

[bopat]

Yes, like if I’m going to mug somebody I’ll make sure I do it on live camera…

Muggers fear cameras? I'll be sure to fasten a GoPro to my head next time I walk down a sketchy alley in NYC. Thanks!

[Bellavita]

Go where you want to go NYC is safe I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

[Stu from NYC]

Hmmm. I don’t think so. Notice how many people say, “be cautious of your surroundings”? Why do you need to “be cautious of your soundings” if it’s a safe place?

Learned a long time ago to be cautious of our surroundings no matter where we are.

[sheena0904]

Hmmm. I don’t think so. Notice how many people say, “be cautious of your surroundings”? Why do you need to “be cautious of your soundings” if it’s a safe place?
Probably because there is 8 million people in a relatively small area.

[Marmaduke]

NYC crime rate statistics are available in an easy to read format HERE

Crime Stats - Historical - NYPD (https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/crime-statistics/historical.page)

Realist assessment of the risk is discussed

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/trump-bragg-new-york-manhattan-nypd-4c0cb6ef067b2e3f2358ec9542c900cd)

You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates (https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/)

Ocala is much more dangerous than NYC.
Leesburg is much more dangerous than NYC.

Orlando is much more dangerous than NYC.
Peoria IL is much more dangerous than NYC.
Phoenix is much more dangerous than NYC.

I know certain news media loves to attack and endlessly play videos of crimes but NYC is safer than most cities in the US.
Ñooooo way is Ocala more dangerous than NYC.

HOWEVER, I looked at your link and that's what it states.

I've looked at several zip codes where we and our very, very, very extended family reside in fine addresses.

Haha... they're all listed as more dangerous than Mayor Adams NYC, where a young Officer Diller was just gunned down shamelessly by a career criminal.

[Marmaduke]

After having been in NYC, myself, if Moses came down from the hill and said it was safe, I wouldn’t believe it.
Agree 100%

[Vickim]

NYC crime rate statistics are available in an easy to read format HERE

Crime Stats - Historical - NYPD (https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/crime-statistics/historical.page)

Realist assessment of the risk is discussed

FACT FOCUS: NYC crime is not worst ever, despite claims | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/trump-bragg-new-york-manhattan-nypd-4c0cb6ef067b2e3f2358ec9542c900cd)

You can compare relative crime rates of every major city in the US one against the other here:

2024 Compare Crime Rates (https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/)

Ocala is much more dangerous than NYC.
Leesburg is much more dangerous than NYC.

Orlando is much more dangerous than NYC.
Peoria IL is much more dangerous than NYC.
Phoenix is much more dangerous than NYC.

I know certain news media loves to attack and endlessly play videos of crimes but NYC is safer than most cities in the US.

I’ve watched several YouTubers talking about how random the acts of violence are in the city. People that live there . Also, reports that NYPD isn’t arresting cause they are just “let right back out” . So of course the numbers look better on paper
Criminals have also said ( news report) they don’t go to Florida to commit their crimes because Florida enforces the law.Maybe that’s why Fl numbers are higher ?
I agree with the other poster “once we enough for me “ keep your head in a swivel if ya venture out !

[Velvet]

Muggers fear cameras? I'll be sure to fasten a GoPro to my head next time I walk down a sketchy alley in NYC. Thanks!

Webcam… everybody in the world can see them, not the same as your private GoPro.

[Velvet]

Learned a long time ago to be cautious of our surroundings no matter where we are.

Must be tiring being on guard all the time.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I know many here in TV are originally from NY and eastcoast so I'm sure there will be some good input...

It's been a looooong time since I visited NYC and always wanted to go back.

Is it true that NYC is getting very dangerous?

Have you been there recently? How safe did you feel?

Would be interesting to hear from those of you that grew up in NYC...and what your thoughts are on this subject. Also I've always been fascinated by the history of NYC so share stories of growing up there please if you would. :)

TIA

Park only in attended open-air lots, not in parking garages. There are a couple of decent ones near Lincoln Center, around/on West End Avenue. From there you can walk a couple of blocks toward Central Park and take the subway or a bus wherever you want to go - or walk it. I always walked, from West End and 60th to Greenwich Village via Fashion (5th) Ave, then took the cross-town bus back uptown to Lincoln Center again. But that's a long walk.