Digital Resident ID's

[MGH01]

While at the pool on Sunday with my family the attendant came around to check ID's. I have mine digitally in my wallet app on my cell phone. The attendant scanned the ID from my digital app and went on her way. On Monday, another attendant came around to check ID's and told me I couldn't use the app for my ID.

I am usually not a rule breaker, but I don't like to bring my wallet (where my ID is located) to the pool. Most everyone has a cell phone these days. Airports have no issue when people put there boarding pass on their cell phone. It is time to get out of the 1980's.

[bsloan1960]

While at the pool on Sunday with my family the attendant came around to check ID's. I have mine digitally in my wallet app on my cell phone. The attendant scanned the ID from my digital app and went on her way. On Monday, another attendant came around to check ID's and told me I couldn't use the app for my ID.

I am usually not a rule breaker, but I don't like to bring my wallet (where my ID is located) to the pool. Most everyone has a cell phone these days. Airports have no issue when people put there boarding pass on their cell phone. It is time to get out of the 1980's. Sorry. Haven't heard of the ID being on an 'App'. Which App do you mean? I have a photo of my ID on my phone- which they won't accept- but other than a photo I don't know of another way to present the ID with a phone.

[Bill14564]

This is the second time I've heard of a Villages-blessed digital form of the Villages ID. If these stories are correct then it is a very new capability just now being rolled out in a new and improved app. It's about time for this, I believe it was first mentioned by the District back in 2020.

I haven't seen it, have only heard stories about it, and can't find any mention of it in my Villages app but it just might be true.

[tophcfa]

While at the pool on Sunday with my family the attendant came around to check ID's. I have mine digitally in my wallet app on my cell phone. The attendant scanned the ID from my digital app and went on her way. On Monday, another attendant came around to check ID's and told me I couldn't use the app for my ID.

I am usually not a rule breaker, but I don't like to bring my wallet (where my ID is located) to the pool. Most everyone has a cell phone these days. Airports have no issue when people put there boarding pass on their cell phone. It is time to get out of the 1980's.

I do just fine in 2024 going to the pool while leaving my phone at home and bringing my ID. Residents only have one Physical ID, but a digital version could be used by multiple people. Keep the pools secure and require a physical ID. If you must bring your phone with you, keep your physical ID in a sleeve on the back of your phone. And airlines are willing to accept a digital boarding pass because the traveler already was required to show a physical ID to a TSA agent when they went through security.

[Altavia]

This is the second time I've heard of a Villages-blessed digital form of the Villages ID. If these stories are correct then it is a very new capability just now being rolled out in a new and improved app. It's about time for this, I believe it was first mentioned by the District back in 2020.

I haven't seen it, have only heard stories about it, and can't find any mention of it in my Villages app but it just might be true.

Same here, but nothing in the IT world is easy when dealing with legacy systems and Software.

If your photo popped up on their device when scanning the barcode seems that should be enough.

But very seldom do I see anyone looking at the photo and person before scanning the barcode.


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/digital-villages-resident-id-309920/

[Papa_lecki]

While at the pool on Sunday with my family the attendant came around to check ID's. I have mine digitally in my wallet app on my cell phone. The attendant scanned the ID from my digital app and went on her way. On Monday, another attendant came around to check ID's and told me I couldn't use the app for my ID.

I am usually not a rule breaker, but I don't like to bring my wallet (where my ID is located) to the pool. Most everyone has a cell phone these days. Airports have no issue when people put there boarding pass on their cell phone. It is time to get out of the 1980's.

I have a picture of my id also - they are not valid. You could take a picture, give to your sister and now two people are using the amenities. You could rent your house, turn in your ID and still show your pic.

[Bill14564]

I have a picture of my id also - they are not valid. You could take a picture, give to your sister and now two people are using the amenities. You could rent your house, turn in your ID and still show your pic.

That might be true if all they did was look for a green card, but that's not all they do. When they scan the card they should get feedback that shows your picture and ID status (valid, expired, surrendered, etc). If this information are being returned then it shouldn't matter if they scan the card, a picture of the card, or a Villages-issued digital card.

[Dusty_Star]

I have a picture of my id also - they are not valid. You could take a picture, give to your sister and now two people are using the amenities.

You and your sister look that much alike?

[MGH01]

The app that I have is nothing more than a digital wallet called Folio. I have my Medicare card, BJ’s card and anything else that has a picture including my Villages ID. I am not saying to change the physical ID just the pool area where you don’t usually keep a wallet in your back pocket for a guy.

[jimdecastro]

The app that I have is nothing more than a digital wallet called Folio. I have my Medicare card, BJ’s card and anything else that has a picture including my Villages ID. I am not saying to change the physical ID just the pool area where you don’t usually keep a wallet in your back pocket for a guy.

Photos can be altered, and copies flood the system and amenities. They used to be able to enter your number but in October 2022 they stopped accepting that (I heard a rumor there was a safety issue but it is a rumor and unsubstantiated). I know they are working on going digital but there are challenges due to other legacy systems here. I have a pocket for my ID in the back of my phone.

[msilagy]

I show the attendant my drivers lic and village ID on my phone. They take it or whatever. This is the digital age and my picture is there on my ID anyway.

[gjbakke]

Just bring your ID. Making a big deal about nothing

[Maker]

If your photo popped up on their device when scanning the barcode seems that should be enough.

Your picture does pop up on the scanner's screen.
Picture sent to scanner from T V database, and would be the same picture that is printed on the original plastic ID card.
A photograph of your ID, in your phone, if altered, would not match.

Another red flag would be scanning the same ID in 2 places at similar times. Especially if traveling between those spots in that time frame is impossible.

One thing for sure here is that their IT department is terrible. Stuck in the past and using obsolete technology. Yet spending buckets of money on gate systems instead of making things better for residents.

[Robojo]

While at the pool on Sunday with my family the attendant came around to check ID's. I have mine digitally in my wallet app on my cell phone. The attendant scanned the ID from my digital app and went on her way. On Monday, another attendant came around to check ID's and told me I couldn't use the app for my ID.

I am usually not a rule breaker, but I don't like to bring my wallet (where my ID is located) to the pool. Most everyone has a cell phone these days. Airports have no issue when people put there boarding pass on their cell phone. It is time to get out of the 1980's.

You don't have to bring the whole wallet. Just the card. Thems the rules like it or not.

[Rick9298]

you are absolutely correct....its ridiculous

[Berwin]

LOL, before I moved here, I ran the machine that produced ID cards for our volunteer organization. If I wanted to, I could take a picture of my ID card and use that to produce a clone of that card as fast as I could feed blank cards into the machine. However, I no longer live there and I put my ID and phone in a waterproof pouch when I go to the pool.

[HoosierPa]

I do just fine in 2024 going to the pool while leaving my phone at home and bringing my ID. Residents only have one Physical ID, but a digital version could be used by multiple people. Keep the pools secure and require a physical ID. If you must bring your phone with you, keep your physical ID in a sleeve on the back of your phone. And airlines are willing to accept a digital boarding pass because the traveler already was required to show a physical ID to a TSA agent when they went through security.

Great point

[retiredguy123]

It's amazing to me how many people are in favor of reducing the level of security in The Villages, which accepting digital ID cards would definitely do. Have you ever watched a rec center employee scanning ID cards and how carelessly they accept almost anything that will pass the scanner?

[Bill14564]

It's amazing to me how many people are in favor of reducing the level of security in The Villages, which accepting digital ID cards would definitely do. Have you ever watched a rec center employee scanning ID cards and how carelessly they accept almost anything that will pass the scanner?

Actually, an app-based digital ID would *improve* the security of the system. I don't mean an app built to take a picture of your ID, that is simply a camera.

What I mean is an app that is designed to authenticate you to the database where the ID is stored and then retrieve your information. This is the same type of app that allows me to use my Apple Wallet to hold my auto insurance, credit cards, airline tickets, concert tickets, and Disney annual pass. Certainly the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles (FLHSMV) (auto insurance), banking industry (credit cards), FAA (airline tickets), entertainment venues (concert tickets), and Disney World (annual pass) all have more stringent security needs than the Villages pools and rec centers.

Florida also has their FLHSMV Smart ID app that Florida says provides a safe and trusted proof of identity and age. This is outside the Apple Wallet but another example of an app-based ID capability.

I don't *need* the digital Villages ID but there is no reason why it shouldn't be available today, particularly since it was announced by the Villages over three years ago.

[retiredguy123]

Actually, an app-based digital ID would *improve* the security of the system. I don't mean an app built to take a picture of your ID, that is simply a camera.

What I mean is an app that is designed to authenticate you to the database where the ID is stored and then retrieve your information. This is the same type of app that allows me to use my Apple Wallet to hold my auto insurance, credit cards, airline tickets, concert tickets, and Disney annual pass. Certainly the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles (FLHSMV) (auto insurance), banking industry (credit cards), FAA (airline tickets), entertainment venues (concert tickets), and Disney World (annual pass) all have more stringent security needs than the Villages pools and rec centers.

Florida also has their FLHSMV Smart ID app that Florida says provides a safe and trusted proof of identity and age. This is outside the Apple Wallet but another example of an app-based ID capability.

I don't *need* the digital Villages ID but there is no reason why it shouldn't be available today, particularly since it was announced by the Villages over three years ago.
I don't disagree with a new ID system, but some people, including the OP, are just taking a photo of their ID card on their phone, and get mad when the rec center doesn't accept it. To me, accepting this copy method reduces security.

[Altavia]

I don't disagree with a new ID system, but some people, including the OP, are just taking a photo of their ID card on their phone, and get mad when the rec center doesn't accept it. To me, accepting this copy method reduces security.

How does it reduce "security" when a photo of the person scanned also appears on the scanning device?

[Windguy]

I don't disagree with a new ID system, but some people, including the OP, are just taking a photo of their ID card on their phone, and get mad when the rec center doesn't accept it. To me, accepting this copy method reduces security.
Apparently, you did not understand the OP’s post. He said he used the Wallet app on his phone. I use Wallet to store my credit cards and can use it to pay for things. It is more secure than physical cards and I would think the banking industry has a MUCH greater need for security than some rec center.

[Bill14564]

I don't disagree with a new ID system, but some people, including the OP, are just taking a photo of their ID card on their phone, and get mad when the rec center doesn't accept it. To me, accepting this copy method reduces security.

Absolutely, details matter.

I don't know if allowing pictures reduces security but that isn't the point. A picture is not a digital ID system, it is just a picture and it is not acceptable.

The Villages should implement the digital ID they advertised so long ago. The residents should pressure the District to make this happen. Until it is done, we all need to carry our little cards.

[retiredguy123]

How does it reduce "security" when a photo of the person scanned also appears on the scanning device?
It reduces security buy allowing soneone to make multiple copies and give them to others. The rec center employees do not always compare the photo to the resident when allowing access.

[retiredguy123]

Apparently, you did not understand the OP’s post. He said he used the Wallet app on his phone. I use Wallet to store my credit cards and can use it to pay for things. It is more secure than physical cards and I would think the banking industry has a MUCH greater need for security than some rec center.
I understood the OP's post. They even clarified it in Post No. 9. The OP also admitted that they broke the rules. What the OP has on their phone is nothing more than a photo of the ID card, which is not allowed by the Villages rules. There is also no app approved as a substitute for the original ID card.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Micro chip implants.....just like Fido. Problem solved! ;)

[retiredguy123]

Micro chip implants.....just like Fido. Problem solved! ;)
How many dogs do you know named Fido?

[Marmaduke]

You and your sister look that much alike?
It's funny to mention this. "My" photo looks NOTHING like me.

2 things changed my appearance drastically since moving to TV:

>long hair, no bangs became short hair w/bangs.
Very thin face is now much fuller.

Nobody thinks my ID looks like me, but the scanners at the pool never seem to look at the picture.

[DrHitch]

Agree that "cloning" of an ID card via a picture of your card and bar code is not valid. Plus, the barcode scanners may not work with an image of a real card. Any evidence of this?

People with villages temporary resident ID cards (paper) can wrap their card in clear tape to make it water-resistant. Take to pool.

Get a small holder for the back of your smartphone or punch a hole in ID card and put on a lanyard.

Long term. A digital system (app) might work but a ton of effort for 165,000 people...again, the current handheld scanners may not work.

[MCJEFE]

I recently bought a clear case for my cell phone and my Villages ID is kept in the back of my cell phone. It's clearly visible to the s starter shack folks and can be scanned without removing it at the pools and Rec Centers.

[bowlingal]

MGH....you don't need your wallet. Take the ID out. there are little "pockets" available on amazon to attach to the back of your phone to hold such things an an ID, DL, money. Maybe it's time you bought one? They come 3 to a pack in different colors. No excuses.

[Shipping up to Boston]

How many dogs do you know named Fido?

It was a stock name. I don’t hang around dog parks. Has that one been taken out of circulation

[Bill14564]

MGH....you don't need your wallet. Take the ID out. there are little "pockets" available on amazon to attach to the back of your phone to hold such things an an ID, DL, money. Maybe it's time you bought one? They come 3 to a pack in different colors. No excuses.

Now *that* seems like a security risk! I've seen those and have younger relatives that use them. I'm not comfortable putting my DL and CC in a detachable pocket that sits on tables at restaurants, bars, and pools. To each their own, just not something I am comfortable with.

[Romad]

Sorry. Haven't heard of the ID being on an 'App'. Which App do you mean? I have a photo of my ID on my phone- which they won't accept- but other than a photo I don't know of another way to present the ID with a phone.

It’s called Photos. The cameras are so good that the bar code can be scanned.

[eyc234]

This is the second time I've heard of a Villages-blessed digital form of the Villages ID. If these stories are correct then it is a very new capability just now being rolled out in a new and improved app. It's about time for this, I believe it was first mentioned by the District back in 2020.

I haven't seen it, have only heard stories about it, and can't find any mention of it in my Villages app but it just might be true.

Just put a card holder that are given away all the time on the back of your phone and put your real Villages ID in the card holder. No Problems!

[Bill14564]

Just put a card holder that are given away all the time on the back of your phone and put your real Villages ID in the card holder. No Problems!

The card holder could fall off
Someone could take the card holder off
Someone could take the card out of the holder
The card holder or the cards within it block the wireless charging capability

It is a viable solution for some but there are drawbacks.

[Veracity]

I never made it past the first sentence "While at the pool on Sunday with my family the attendant came around to check ID's" because I thought this was an April Fools Day joke!

[Shipping up to Boston]

Most gyms don’t even confirm if the fob scanned matches the user. They at least make an effort at the pools.

[MrFlorida]

Bring the card, stop trying to bend the rules.

[Ptmcbriz]

Man or woman put your towel in a tote bag, along with your phone and ID. Problem solved.

[nn0wheremann]

I do just fine in 2024 going to the pool while leaving my phone at home and bringing my ID. Residents only have one Physical ID, but a digital version could be used by multiple people. Keep the pools secure and require a physical ID. If you must bring your phone with you, keep your physical ID in a sleeve on the back of your phone. And airlines are willing to accept a digital boarding pass because the traveler already was required to show a physical ID to a TSA agent when they went through security.
I just tell the ID checker my Villages ID number, she enters it into the scanner, and an image of my ID card appears on the scanner with my picture. Works well energy time at the sports pool. Does not work at the golf course, those folks are still in the paper and pencil age. That’s life.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I just tell the ID checker my Villages ID number, she enters it into the scanner, and an image of my ID card appears on the scanner with my picture. Works well energy time at the sports pool. Does not work at the golf course, those folks are still in the paper and pencil age. That’s life.

Wait....so you just give the attendant your ‘digits’ and the OP gave hers digitally....and only one of you were questioned on the practice? Gotta love uniformity in action

[retiredguy123]

Wait....so you just give the attendant your ‘digits’ and the OP gave hers digitally....and only one of you were questioned on the practice? Gotta love uniformity in action
No matter how good a system they design, if the Villages employees don't do their job, it will not work.

[Vermilion Villager]

While at the pool on Sunday with my family the attendant came around to check ID's. I have mine digitally in my wallet app on my cell phone. The attendant scanned the ID from my digital app and went on her way. On Monday, another attendant came around to check ID's and told me I couldn't use the app for my ID.

I am usually not a rule breaker, but I don't like to bring my wallet (where my ID is located) to the pool. Most everyone has a cell phone these days. Airports have no issue when people put there boarding pass on their cell phone. It is time to get out of the 1980's.
The rules on the Villages site state you must have an ID card....There is no mention of an alternative. In fact for guests it states: Guests are required to carry their original Guest ID card when using a District amenity facility even if accompanied by a resident. I cannot see why they would treat a resident any different than a guest.
I would suggest if you want to change this rule petition the villages to allow for an ID within an app to be acceptable.

[LeRoySmith]

Micro chip implants.....just like Fido. Problem solved! ;)

This isn't' too far fetched (Fido pun). A bar in Barcelona did this about 20 years ago to its VIP members, a rice sized chip was implanted in their upper arm. They used it for admittance and billing.

I think I've also seen it in several movies and read about it on the internet so I'm sure its true.

[frayedends]

I can go into my bank and give them my id number. They punch it in and my picture comes up. Then I can withdraw money without an id.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting we don’t follow the current rules. Only that the current system is obsolete.

Any argument that the current system is more secure is incorrect. I can copy these type of ids easily. The physical card is no more secure than a digital card.

As for those pockets for phones, they interfere with the mag charger.

[FredMitchell]

How does it reduce "security" when a photo of the person scanned also appears on the scanning device?

Have you ever heard of photoshop? There are scores of tools capable of modifying digital images!

[retiredguy123]

I can go into my bank and give them my id number. They punch it in and my picture comes up. Then I can withdraw money without an id.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting we don’t follow the current rules. Only that the current system is obsolete.

Any argument that the current system is more secure is incorrect. I can copy these type of ids easily. The physical card is no more secure than a digital card.

As for those pockets for phones, they interfere with the mag charger.
Not exactly. A lot of people are not following the current rules. They are making a photo copy of the ID on their phone and they expect the rec center to accept it. That is not allowed by the current rules. Making a paper copy of the ID would also be a violation of the rules.
Also, I don't know what type of wireless charger you use, but my wireless charger works fine with an ID card attached to the phone.

[mtdjed]

While at the pool on Sunday with my family the attendant came around to check ID's. I have mine digitally in my wallet app on my cell phone. The attendant scanned the ID from my digital app and went on her way. On Monday, another attendant came around to check ID's and told me I couldn't use the app for my ID.

I am usually not a rule breaker, but I don't like to bring my wallet (where my ID is located) to the pool. Most everyone has a cell phone these days. Airports have no issue when people put there boarding pass on their cell phone. It is time to get out of the 1980's.

My, My, what an imposition! Think of all the poor souls who don't have smart phones. Sometimes attendants never check, other times they accept digital ID, other times need card. The various attendants should not have to deal with alternatives to the real card. Be glad that they do checks. We cannot expect them to be police. Some criticize that they don't check enough..

I wonder if state police would be happy if you demanded that they use your digital driver's license?

[rsmurano]

They need to start doing more checks at the pools, pickleball courts, and other areas that get crowded. Pretty simple to just bring your card with you.

[Shipping up to Boston]

My, My, what an imposition! Think of all the poor souls who don't have smart phones. Sometimes attendants never check, other times they accept digital ID, other times need card. The various attendants should not have to deal with alternatives to the real card. Be glad that they do checks. We cannot expect them to be police. Some criticize that they don't check enough..

I wonder if state police would be happy if you demanded that they use your digital driver's license?

Actually a good point...
As long as DMV issues hard copy licenses and conversely TV issues same for amenities, the expectation is that you carry both in operation or for access. Just because it’s antiquated and inconvenient for some....doesn’t mean you get to make up your own set of rules because you forgot either. Take it up with whatever authority controls either....lobby for change. Until then, just comply

[Dusty_Star]

I wonder if state police would be happy if you demanded that they use your digital driver's license?

They would be pleased. The Florida Smart ID is a digital version of the driver's license. It currently does not replace the physical driver's license, but is an adjunct to improve customer service from FLHSMV

[JMintzer]

The card holder could fall off
Someone could take the card holder off
Someone could take the card out of the holder
The card holder or the cards within it block the wireless charging capability

It is a viable solution for some but there are drawbacks.

If you have a relatively newer iPhone, they have the "Mag-Lock" attachment on the back of the phone. You attach a slim wallet with a VERY strong magnet that isn't going anywhere by accident...

But, you can remove it for wireless charging... My kids all have them and no one has ever lost anything...

[JMintzer]

I can go into my bank and give them my id number. They punch it in and my picture comes up. Then I can withdraw money without an id.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting we don’t follow the current rules. Only that the current system is obsolete.

Any argument that the current system is more secure is incorrect. I can copy these type of ids easily. The physical card is no more secure than a digital card.

As for those pockets for phones, they interfere with the mag charger.

Not the ones that attach w/a magnet...

[frayedends]

Not the ones that attach w/a magnet...

Cool. I’ll look into it. It doesn’t matter to me much as I still take my wallet everywhere. But maybe I don’t need to. If you have one you like and a link I’d appreciate it.

I just looked at a few MagSafe wallets but it is unclear if they will still attach to my wireless charger with cards and cash inside. They aren’t expensive and I could always remove the wallet to charge I guess

[lawgolfer]

I'm happier if I carry the small, plastic, waterproof ID card to the pool instead of my phone. I'll also be happier if others didn't bring their phones to the pool as they are likely to use them.

[JMintzer]

Cool. I’ll look into it. It doesn’t matter to me much as I still take my wallet everywhere. But maybe I don’t need to. If you have one you like and a link I’d appreciate it.

I just looked at a few MagSafe wallets but it is unclear if they will still attach to my wireless charger with cards and cash inside. They aren’t expensive and I could always remove the wallet to charge I guess

Yes, you have to remove the wallet to wirelessly charge the phone. But it's easy to do...

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[JMintzer]

I'm happier if I carry the small, plastic, waterproof ID card to the pool instead of my phone. I'll also be happier if others didn't bring their phones to the pool as they are likely to use them.

I bring my phone and a pair of ear buds, so I can listen to music without disturbing others...

[Mrmean58]

The app that I have is nothing more than a digital wallet called Folio. I have my Medicare card, BJ’s card and anything else that has a picture including my Villages ID. I am not saying to change the physical ID just the pool area where you don’t usually keep a wallet in your back pocket for a guy.
I have no issue bringing my physical VID card to the pool.

[frayedends]

Yes, you have to remove the wallet to wirelessly charge the phone. But it's easy to do...

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Thanks! May be time to ditch my back pocket wallet.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

So, if the police pulled you over for a traffic violation and demanded to see your license and registration, he should be fine with seeing a digital copy on your cell phone right?

Wrong. It has to be the actual license, and the actual registration.

The rules in the Villages are - facsimiles are not permitted. You're required to show your actual physical ID. In fact, the rule specifies that copies and photos are not allowed. If someone scanned a digital copy and let you through, then they could get fired if someone complained, because they are required to only scan the actual card, and not a digital copy of one.

If you don't mind putting someone's job at risk because you feel the rules don't apply to you, well - that speaks more about you, than it does the rule.

[Topspinmo]

While at the pool on Sunday with my family the attendant came around to check ID's. I have mine digitally in my wallet app on my cell phone. The attendant scanned the ID from my digital app and went on her way. On Monday, another attendant came around to check ID's and told me I couldn't use the app for my ID.

I am usually not a rule breaker, but I don't like to bring my wallet (where my ID is located) to the pool. Most everyone has a cell phone these days. Airports have no issue when people put there boarding pass on their cell phone. It is time to get out of the 1980's.

Not uncommon for different employers to interpret rule’s differently. Some will put ID number in and you face comes up along with all information, some are too lazy to do it and make you drive back home to get ID when forget wallet.

[Topspinmo]

So, if the police pulled you over for a traffic violation and demanded to see your license and registration, he should be fine with seeing a digital copy on your cell phone right?

Wrong. It has to be the actual license, and the actual registration.

The rules in the Villages are - facsimiles are not permitted. You're required to show your actual physical ID. In fact, the rule specifies that copies and photos are not allowed. If someone scanned a digital copy and let you through, then they could get fired if someone complained, because they are required to only scan the actual card, and not a digital copy of one.

If you don't mind putting someone's job at risk because you feel the rules don't apply to you, well - that speaks more about you, than it does the rule.

Putting someone job at risk? You kidding right. They are in control.

By license plate police know who registered the car and if it currently have insurance. They ask questions see if you’re lying and ID picture confirms who they’re talking to.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Putting someone job at risk? You kidding right. They are in control.

By license plate police know who registered the car and if it currently have insurance. They ask questions see if you’re lying and ID picture confirms who they’re talking to.

Not just any picture ID. Your drivers license. Not a digital copy of one on your wallet app, the actual plastic one you're required, by law, to have with you when you get behind the wheel of a car, motorcycle, moped, truck, or LSV in the state of Florida.

And yes - when you show a digital id to someone at the rec center desk, and they accept that ID, they are risking their jobs by accepting it. They are not allowed to accept them, they're supposed to make you show them your actual ID. If they don't, and if the person behind you thinks "hey - I always have to show mine, why does this guy get a free pass?" then they can complain to the Recreation department of the Villages, and that guy at the counter checking IDs will get in trouble. If he's done it a few times and been turned in for it, the could lose his job.

[MrChip72]

So, if the police pulled you over for a traffic violation and demanded to see your license and registration, he should be fine with seeing a digital copy on your cell phone right?


I've worked in tech for over 30 years. I think several people in this thread are misunderstanding the point of the original post. Equating a "pool pass" to a drivers license is hilarious. Not to mention that many top civilized countries in the world currently use digitized drivers licences.

No one outside of TV cares about using our pools anyways.

The complaints by residents that TV is using two decade old technology and processes are completely valid. Unfortunately some people will just fight change at any cost.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I've worked in tech for over 30 years. I think several people in this thread are misunderstanding the point of the original post. Equating a "pool pass" to a drivers license is hilarious. Not to mention that many top civilized countries in the world currently use digitized drivers licences.

No one outside of TV cares about using our pools anyways.

The complaints by residents that TV is using two decade old technology and processes are completely valid. Unfortunately some people will just fight change at any cost.

That’s the OP point....according to your interpretation. The OP clearly violated the rules by presenting a digital copy instead of the TV issued hard copy....period. Everybody agrees it’s an archaic method....but until that changes, you do what’s expected of you. I brought this up in another post/thread how geriatrics comes full circle to pediatrics...at times. Translation; ‘you did it for her, why can’t you do it for me?’ or ‘ I saw you let him in, why can’t I do the same thing?’ Very middle school ish! It may not rise to a termination for an attendant but why even put them in that vulnerable position? There’s an old saying that is warranted here...’rules are for thee, not for me’!

[JGibson]

The starter shacks are no different some ask for ID and some don't.