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Dusty_Star
04-05-2024, 11:51 AM
"DeSantis signs food delivery app restrictions into law.

How will this affect Florida residents making an order through a food delivery app?
For starters, Floridians will no longer see different prices listed on delivery apps from the restaurant's menu. They will not be allowed to inflate, decrease, or alter a food service establishment’s pricing unless it is already agreed upon.

Additionally, customers will have more communication with establishments during the preparation of orders, during delivery and for up to two hours after a courier picks up the order. The law also states delivery firms must provide consumers with a way to express order concerns directly with the restaurants."


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Shipping up to Boston
04-05-2024, 12:05 PM
"DeSantis signs food delivery app restrictions into law.

How will this affect Florida residents making an order through a food delivery app?
For starters, Floridians will no longer see different prices listed on delivery apps from the restaurant's menu. They will not be allowed to inflate, decrease, or alter a food service establishment’s pricing unless it is already agreed upon.

Additionally, customers will have more communication with establishments during the preparation of orders, during delivery and for up to two hours after a courier picks up the order. The law also states delivery firms must provide consumers with a way to express order concerns directly with the restaurants."


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Hmmm. ‘goes into effect July 2025’ ...I sense a lot of non compliance in the next 15 months. Kudos to Uber Eats and Door Dash anyway for lobbying for its passage

Bill14564
04-05-2024, 12:23 PM
I see how this helps the establishment, but how does this help the consumer?
- The delivery price is allowed to be higher than the restaurant price if the establishment agrees.
- The fees paid by the restaurant must be clearly stated in the agreement between the restaurant and the delivery service but it does not require the customer to be informed
- Regulation of delivery services is preempted to the state (no local regulations allowed)

retiredguy123
04-05-2024, 12:41 PM
Sounds like a useless law. As long as the customer knows how much they will be charged, why do you need the law?

Shipping up to Boston
04-05-2024, 01:06 PM
Sounds like a useless law. As long as the customer knows how much they will be charged, why do you need the law?

Exactly
It creates a new state bureaucracy ie; state jobs. $1000. fines etc. Are people really needing to ‘stay in touch’ with the kitchen after you place a delivery order? Just cook! Ridiculous
As I said, I applaud the UberEats and DD for supporting it but c’mon, they could care less if you have an onion ring missing, your reduction sauce has evaporated etc. They still collect and pass Go. Lmk in the summer of ‘25 how much this bill changes the landscape for the end user...

Keefelane66
04-05-2024, 01:25 PM
Never use the services only food I get to go is pizza and Chinese and I pick it up.

OrangeBlossomBaby
04-05-2024, 02:05 PM
...because this was the most pressing issue in Florida.

smh

fdpaq0580
04-05-2024, 05:12 PM
...because this was the most pressing issue in Florida.

smh

One of the gov's greatest accomplishment. 😏

JoMar
04-05-2024, 05:16 PM
Never use the services only food I get to go is pizza and Chinese and I pick it up.

So why weigh in.....you have neither experience or skin in the game. Why?

fdpaq0580
04-05-2024, 05:20 PM
So why weigh in.....you have neither experience or skin in the game. Why?

Because he/she/they/them/it can? Just a guess.

Cuervo
04-06-2024, 04:16 AM
Whatever law is put into effect will not make a difference as far as the consumer is concern.
Delivery services and restaurants anyone that this law is targeted will make adjustments that will leave the consumer paying the same if not more.
This is just a waste of ink and paper.

defrey12
04-06-2024, 06:40 AM
Never use the services only food I get to go is pizza and Chinese and I pick it up.

For lazy people that can’t get off their couch. No wonder the world has gotten so fat. Maybe try cooking something wholesome? Just a thought…

Eg_cruz
04-06-2024, 07:06 AM
Sounds like a useless law. As long as the customer knows how much they will be charged, why do you need the law?
When I was sick and could leave the house. I ordered from one of the companies and it was ridiculous the price increase of the items. I don’t use them unless I really feeling the need. I also see increases in price on instant cart so I don’t use them either. If you want your fees, put it straight fees and you want delivery charge straight delivery charge but to up charge all the items is ridiculous so I’m glad they passed us.

retiredguy123
04-06-2024, 07:09 AM
When I was sick and could leave the house. I ordered from one of the companies and it was ridiculous the price increase of the items. I don’t use them unless I really feeling the need. I also see increases in price on instant cart so I don’t use them either. If you want your fees, put it straight fees and you want delivery charge straight delivery charge but to up charge all the items is ridiculous so I’m glad they passed us.
I'm confused. Are you saying that, because Florida passed a law, the prices will be reduced?

ThirdOfFive
04-06-2024, 07:11 AM
Lost here amid all the thinly-veiled jerking of knees is the fact that this law accomplishes one very important thing.

Quality control.

Before this law the restaurant had no control, once their food was picked up by an independent driver, whether or not the cost of that food was going to have an arbitrary "delivery price" that was different (more) than what the restaurant charged, or the state of that food once delivered. I know of no other delivery system that does NOT contain mechanisms to assure those two things. Get a busted package from Amazon? You don't call the driver (or the post office if they were the deliverer) you contact AMAZON. You're also not going to have to pay more for your food than the restaurant charges, simply because the deliverer has it for a different price. Before this, the customer simply had no recourse regarding quality of food once delivered, poor delivery practices or having to pay more than the restaurant would charge.

This, from ABC Action News, Tampa Bay:

"I'm hoping being able to directly contact the customer is going to boost our sales a lot...If it was me and I was ordering from a restaurant and my order didn't come as I wanted it or didn't come on time, I would want to hear from the manager or owner that they're trying to make it right, and that would entice me to give them another chance," Camper said."

This law in effect makes the deliverer more answerable to the restaurant. I cannot see anything negative in that.

Bill14564
04-06-2024, 07:37 AM
Lost here amid all the thinly-veiled jerking of knees is the fact that this law accomplishes one very important thing.

Quality control.

Before this law the restaurant had no control, once their food was picked up by an independent driver, whether or not the cost of that food was going to have an arbitrary "delivery price" that was different (more) than what the restaurant charged, or the state of that food once delivered. I know of no other delivery system that does NOT contain mechanisms to assure those two things. Get a busted package from Amazon? You don't call the driver (or the post office if they were the deliverer) you contact AMAZON. You're also not going to have to pay more for your food than the restaurant charges, simply because the deliverer has it for a different price. Before this, the customer simply had no recourse regarding quality of food once delivered, poor delivery practices or having to pay more than the restaurant would charge.

This, from ABC Action News, Tampa Bay:

"I'm hoping being able to directly contact the customer is going to boost our sales a lot...If it was me and I was ordering from a restaurant and my order didn't come as I wanted it or didn't come on time, I would want to hear from the manager or owner that they're trying to make it right, and that would entice me to give them another chance," Camper said."

This law in effect makes the deliverer more answerable to the restaurant. I cannot see anything negative in that.

Simply more protection for the restaurant.
1. The delivery platform must show the purchase price and itemize other charges. This protects the restaurant against delivery platforms unilaterally increasing the purchase price to hide fees and blaming it on the restaurant.

2. The purchase price *may* be higher than the in-restaurant price if the restaurant agrees with this. This does not protect the restaurant but does not protect the customer either.

3. The platform must provide a mechanism for the customer to direct concerns back to the platform. I'm surprised that doesn't exist already. If my package gets lost in UPS I can call UPS to find it. If my food is delivered late by Uber-Eats I assumed there would be an Uber-Eats number to complain to.

4. The platform must provide the restaurant with a means of contacting the customer from the time the order is place to up to two hours after it is delivered. This is the part that the news comment was about. I don't know how I am protected or my life improved as a customer by providing my information to the restaurant. I don't order out a lot, but it happens. I have *never* been contacted by the restaurant to tell me my order would not be ready when I arrived. I have *never* been contacted by the restaurant to tell me that my order was not going to be prepared the way I requested.

On the other hand, I will take the restaurant owner at his word when he says, "I'm hoping being able to directly contact the customer is going to boost our sales a lot.." I can imagine that my contact information being given to the restaurant will result in unsolicited calls or texts from the restaurant attempting to boost their sales.

I simply do not see this protecting the customer at all. I see this protecting the restaurant and I see it causing a few headaches for the platform but I don't see anything in it for me. Prices will not change, there will just be more lines on the bill. Delivery will not be faster and the food will not be warmer, there will just be a complaint line I can call. The restaurant is not going to call to tell me my food will be late, they will simply allow me to blame it on the delivery service. But the restaurant will have my contact information for use in their effort to "boost our sales a lot."

retiredguy123
04-06-2024, 07:40 AM
Lost here amid all the thinly-veiled jerking of knees is the fact that this law accomplishes one very important thing.

Quality control.

Before this law the restaurant had no control, once their food was picked up by an independent driver, whether or not the cost of that food was going to have an arbitrary "delivery price" that was different (more) than what the restaurant charged, or the state of that food once delivered. I know of no other delivery system that does NOT contain mechanisms to assure those two things. Get a busted package from Amazon? You don't call the driver (or the post office if they were the deliverer) you contact AMAZON. You're also not going to have to pay more for your food than the restaurant charges, simply because the deliverer has it for a different price. Before this, the customer simply had no recourse regarding quality of food once delivered, poor delivery practices or having to pay more than the restaurant would charge.

This, from ABC Action News, Tampa Bay:

"I'm hoping being able to directly contact the customer is going to boost our sales a lot...If it was me and I was ordering from a restaurant and my order didn't come as I wanted it or didn't come on time, I would want to hear from the manager or owner that they're trying to make it right, and that would entice me to give them another chance," Camper said."

This law in effect makes the deliverer more answerable to the restaurant. I cannot see anything negative in that.
I still don't understand why the law is needed.

"The restaurant had no control"
"The customer simply had no recourse"

Huh? Who is preventing the restaurant from establishing rules for the delivery service, and who is forcing the customer to do business with a specific restaurant?

Shipping up to Boston
04-06-2024, 07:43 AM
Simply more protection for the restaurant.
1. The delivery platform must show the purchase price and itemize other charges. This protects the restaurant against delivery platforms unilaterally increasing the purchase price to hide fees and blaming it on the restaurant.

2. The purchase price *may* be higher than the in-restaurant price if the restaurant agrees with this. This does not protect the restaurant but does not protect the customer either.

3. The platform must provide a mechanism for the customer to direct concerns back to the platform. I'm surprised that doesn't exist already. If my package gets lost in UPS I can call UPS to find it. If my food is delivered late by Uber-Eats I assumed there would be an Uber-Eats number to complain to.

4. The platform must provide the restaurant with a means of contacting the customer from the time the order is place to up to two hours after it is delivered. This is the part that the news comment was about. I don't know how I am protected or my life improved as a customer by providing my information to the restaurant. I don't order out a lot, but it happens. I have *never* been contacted by the restaurant to tell me my order would not be ready when I arrived. I have *never* been contacted by the restaurant to tell me that my order was not going to be prepared the way I requested.

On the other hand, I will take the restaurant owner at his word when he says, "I'm hoping being able to directly contact the customer is going to boost our sales a lot.." I can imagine that my contact information being given to the restaurant will result in unsolicited calls or texts from the restaurant attempting to boost their sales.

I simply do not see this protecting the customer at all. I see this protecting the restaurant and I see it causing a few headaches for the platform but I don't see anything in it for me. Prices will not change, there will just be more lines on the bill. Delivery will not be faster and the food will not be warmer, there will just be a complaint line I can call. The restaurant is not going to call to tell me my food will be late, they will simply allow me to blame it on the delivery service. But the restaurant will have my contact information for use in their effort to "boost our sales a lot."

Correct
Even if the line items decrease, nothing in the law restricts an app from packaging all of it under a single ‘delivery charge’. As long as they’re up front about it and the consumer hits ‘accept’....the apps will see no hit from this. That’s why they supported it and there was minimal pushback. Adjust...adapt....and overcome

Caymus
04-06-2024, 08:06 AM
I still don't understand why the law is needed.

"The restaurant had no control"
"The customer simply had no recourse"

Huh? Who is preventing the restaurant from establishing rules for the delivery service, and who is forcing the customer to do business with a specific restaurant?

I know an owner who took a high level of pride in their food and didn't want it delivered suboptimum. The biggest offended was Postmates (acquired by Uber). The actual customers would then post negative reviews on Yelp.

Bill14564
04-06-2024, 08:17 AM
I know an owner who took a high level of pride in their food and didn't want it delivered suboptimum. The biggest offended was Postmates (acquired by Uber). The actual customers would then post negative reviews on Yelp.

Then what is needed is a way for the restaurant to respond to ratings or reviews from the customer. Another protection for the restaurant. That is section (5)(b) of the bill.

tophcfa
04-06-2024, 08:18 AM
"DeSantis signs food delivery app restrictions into law.

How will this affect Florida residents making an order through a food delivery app?
For starters, Floridians will no longer see different prices listed on delivery apps from the restaurant's menu. They will not be allowed to inflate, decrease, or alter a food service establishment’s pricing unless it is already agreed upon.

Additionally, customers will have more communication with establishments during the preparation of orders, during delivery and for up to two hours after a courier picks up the order. The law also states delivery firms must provide consumers with a way to express order concerns directly with the restaurants."


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Shouldn’t the Governor be focusing on more important things like the broken homeowners insurance marketplace in the state?

Wondering
04-06-2024, 08:21 AM
"DeSantis signs food delivery app restrictions into law.

How will this affect Florida residents making an order through a food delivery app?
For starters, Floridians will no longer see different prices listed on delivery apps from the restaurant's menu. They will not be allowed to inflate, decrease, or alter a food service establishment’s pricing unless it is already agreed upon.

Additionally, customers will have more communication with establishments during the preparation of orders, during delivery and for up to two hours after a courier picks up the order. The law also states delivery firms must provide consumers with a way to express order concerns directly with the restaurants."


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With all the important State issues that should be address, this was a priority, Really!

msirianni
04-06-2024, 08:29 AM
Simply more protection for the restaurant.
1. The delivery platform must show the purchase price and itemize other charges. This protects the restaurant against delivery platforms unilaterally increasing the purchase price to hide fees and blaming it on the restaurant.

2. The purchase price *may* be higher than the in-restaurant price if the restaurant agrees with this. This does not protect the restaurant but does not protect the customer either.

3. The platform must provide a mechanism for the customer to direct concerns back to the platform. I'm surprised that doesn't exist already. If my package gets lost in UPS I can call UPS to find it. If my food is delivered late by Uber-Eats I assumed there would be an Uber-Eats number to complain to.

4. The platform must provide the restaurant with a means of contacting the customer from the time the order is place to up to two hours after it is delivered. This is the part that the news comment was about. I don't know how I am protected or my life improved as a customer by providing my information to the restaurant. I don't order out a lot, but it happens. I have *never* been contacted by the restaurant to tell me my order would not be ready when I arrived. I have *never* been contacted by the restaurant to tell me that my order was not going to be prepared the way I requested.

On the other hand, I will take the restaurant owner at his word when he says, "I'm hoping being able to directly contact the customer is going to boost our sales a lot.." I can imagine that my contact information being given to the restaurant will result in unsolicited calls or texts from the restaurant attempting to boost their sales.

I simply do not see this protecting the customer at all. I see this protecting the restaurant and I see it causing a few headaches for the platform but I don't see anything in it for me. Prices will not change, there will just be more lines on the bill. Delivery will not be faster and the food will not be warmer, there will just be a complaint line I can call. The restaurant is not going to call to tell me my food will be late, they will simply allow me to blame it on the delivery service. But the restaurant will have my contact information for use in their effort to "boost our sales a lot."

This will allow the restaurant to contact it's customers to insure they were satisfied with both the quality of the food and the delivery. Insuring customer satisfaction is the way to "boost our sales a lot".

Bill14564
04-06-2024, 08:36 AM
This will allow the restaurant to contact it's customers to insure they were satisfied with both the quality of the food and the delivery. Insuring customer satisfaction is the way to "boost our sales a lot".

Do you honestly think the restaurant is going to take time out of their day to call all their delivery customers to ask how the food was? Do you *want* restaurants calling you while you are eating to ask how the food is? How about places where you ordered carry-out, should they call you 20 minutes after you picked up the food to ask how you like it?

My answers to those are no, I don't think restaurants would call me and I certainly don't want them to.

JMintzer
04-06-2024, 08:44 AM
Shouldn’t the Governor be focusing on more important things like the broken homeowners insurance marketplace in the state?

He signed a Bill...

He didn't write the law... That was the State Legislators...

Shipping up to Boston
04-06-2024, 08:45 AM
This will allow the restaurant to contact it's customers to insure they were satisfied with both the quality of the food and the delivery. Insuring customer satisfaction is the way to "boost our sales a lot".

Hmmmm. Not sure if your quote at the end is hinting at collusion or the restaurant industry (who also lobbied for it)....adopting an addition by subtraction sales approach ?

ThirdOfFive
04-06-2024, 08:47 AM
With all the important State issues that should be address, this was a priority, Really!
Priority? Depends. This law did not come into being in a vacuum.

Gov. DeSantis signed 10 other bills into law at the time that he signed the Food Delivery Platform into law, as follows (floridadaily dot com website)

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Governor Ron DeSantis signed the following bills:

HB 5203 – Property Seized by the Florida Gaming Control Commission

HB 7043 – A Review Under the Open Government Sunset Review Act

CS/CS/HB 883 – Short-acting Bronchodilator Use in Public and Private Schools

HB 523 – Florida Seal of Fine Arts Program

CS/CS/HB 217 – College Campus Facilities in Areas of Critical State Concern

CS/HB 801 – Alzheimer’s Disease and Related Dementia Training for Law Enforcement and Correctional Officers

CS/CS/HB 1491 – Public Records

SB 46 – Reading Achievement Initiative for Scholastic Excellence Program

SB 304 – Household Moving Services

CS/SB 7008 – A Review Under the Open Government Sunset Review Act

CS/SB 676 – Food Delivery Platforms

A good indicator of what is wrong with media these days: focus on the sensational at the expense of the factual. Or, as my Norwegian friends would say, "tedens tegin".

TheWarriors
04-06-2024, 08:49 AM
Joe will fix this with swamping us with undocumented delivery businesses.

John Mayes
04-06-2024, 08:49 AM
He signed a Bill...

He didn't write the law... That was the State Legislators...

Missed in all of the analytics and reactions.

Markus
04-06-2024, 08:50 AM
Hmmm. ‘goes into effect July 2025’ ...I sense a lot of non compliance in the next 15 months. Kudos to Uber Eats and Door Dash anyway for lobbying for its passage

This allows for the law to be interpreted and gives IT Depts time to make their systems ready for all of this.

Cliff Fr
04-06-2024, 08:53 AM
Some of the comments definitely show political bias, lol.

Shipping up to Boston
04-06-2024, 08:55 AM
How do your Norwegian friends say....submitted by DeSantis campaign donor!

Other poster was correct, the leg work was done by House/Senate

Cliff Fr
04-06-2024, 08:56 AM
I'm confused. Are you saying that, because Florida passed a law, the prices will be reduced?
It's basically honesty in pricing and not including hidden fees

ThirdOfFive
04-06-2024, 09:01 AM
How do your Norwegian friends say....submitted by DeSantis campaign donor!

Other poster was correct, the leg work was done by House/Senate
The term "non sequitur" comes to mind...

Cliff Fr
04-06-2024, 09:04 AM
Shouldn’t the Governor be focusing on more important things like the broken homeowners insurance marketplace in the state?
A homeowners insurance reform bill has already been passed. Unfortunately with thousands of people sueing insurance companies for brand new roofs and a couple thousand attorneys also getting millions of dollars in settlements and massive building in Florida leading to large home price increases, there's only so much reform can do.

Remembergoldenrule
04-06-2024, 09:09 AM
Hmmm. ‘goes into effect July 2025’ ...I sense a lot of non compliance in the next 15 months. Kudos to Uber Eats and Door Dash anyway for lobbying for its passage

Just wondering if this is going to be a pass the buck nightmare if something wrong. Store says tell Uber and Uber says tell store.
Don’t use delivery apps so I have no way of comparing.

tophcfa
04-06-2024, 10:10 AM
A homeowners insurance reform bill has already been passed. Unfortunately with thousands of people sueing insurance companies for brand new roofs and a couple thousand attorneys also getting millions of dollars in settlements and massive building in Florida leading to large home price increases, there's only so much reform can do.

Tort reform

retiredguy123
04-06-2024, 10:49 AM
I know an owner who took a high level of pride in their food and didn't want it delivered suboptimum. The biggest offended was Postmates (acquired by Uber). The actual customers would then post negative reviews on Yelp.
Hopefully all restaurants are proud of their food.

DonnaNi4os
04-06-2024, 11:02 AM
When my $24 order including tip ended up costing almost $10
more, I was so annoyed Especially annoyed since it was supposed to be free delivery for my first order! That’s the first and last time I will use Uber Eats! I received an invoice this morning that was different from
what I agreed to yesterday.

Two Bills
04-06-2024, 11:06 AM
Sounds like many laws or directives, the whole thing just means that everything basically stays the same, with a get out for all concerned if things go wrong.
Cook at home, or go fetch the takeaway yourself, could be a better idea.

hypart
04-06-2024, 12:03 PM
there's only so much reform can do.
Sounds to me then the reform bill didn't do anything. Can't hail a bill if it's filled with loopholes

Cliff Fr
04-06-2024, 12:10 PM
Tort reform

I agree, but with 80 to 90% of politicians being attorneys it's difficult to get it done.

JP
04-06-2024, 12:18 PM
Sounds like a good idea to me.

kkingston57
04-06-2024, 01:28 PM
Sounds like a useless law. As long as the customer knows how much they will be charged, why do you need the law?

Yes another useless law. Will be enforced like the law outlawing males from using a female bathroom and vice versa even on a golf course.

fdpaq0580
04-06-2024, 01:55 PM
With all the important State issues that should be address, this was a priority, Really!

Photo op.?

Bill14564
04-06-2024, 01:57 PM
Yes another useless law. Will be enforced like the law outlawing males from using a female bathroom and vice versa even on a golf course.

Are the bathrooms on the golf courses multi-user like those at the squares where there might be two people in one at the same time? Or are just worried about catching cooties?

Vermilion Villager
04-06-2024, 02:08 PM
So why weigh in.....you have neither experience or skin in the game. Why?

Ha! This comment could be added to 90% of the posts on this forum! :evil6:

fdpaq0580
04-06-2024, 06:32 PM
Some of the comments definitely show political bias, lol.

NO! Gasp! You can't be serious. 🙈🙉🙊

SHIBUMI
04-07-2024, 08:14 AM
With all the issues in Florida today, this is what they work on........simple minded people...........glad his next job will be at Disney as Goofy

How will this affect Florida residents making an order through a food delivery app?
For starters, Floridians will no longer see different prices listed on delivery apps from the restaurant's menu. They will not be allowed to inflate, decrease, or alter a food service establishment’s pricing unless it is already agreed upon.

Additionally, customers will have more communication with establishments during the preparation of orders, during delivery and for up to two hours after a courier picks up the order. The law also states delivery firms must provide consumers with a way to express order concerns directly with the restaurants."


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Bill14564
04-07-2024, 09:12 AM
With all the issues in Florida today, this is what they work on........simple minded people...........glad his next job will be at Disney as Goofy

How will this affect Florida residents making an order through a food delivery app?
For starters, Floridians will no longer see different prices listed on delivery apps from the restaurant's menu. They will not be allowed to inflate, decrease, or alter a food service establishment’s pricing unless it is already agreed upon.

That statement is an oxymoron. Floridians *WILL* see different prices if it has been agreed upon with the restaurant. The delivery platform can no longer unilaterally increase food prices in order to hide fees BUT they can charge those fees to the restaurant which might agree to increase food prices to cover them.

Additionally, customers will have more communication with establishments during the preparation of orders, during delivery and for up to two hours after a courier picks up the order. The law also states delivery firms must provide consumers with a way to express order concerns directly with the restaurants."

That is not what the bill says.
Today, customers can have as much communication with the restaurant as they want; there is nothing preventing me from picking up the phone and calling. What the bill does is provide the customer's contact information to the restaurant so that the restaurant can initiate a contact. It isn't that I need to order anonymously but I just don't see the value to me to have the restaurant calling me while I am eating.

Second, the law does not state that delivery firms must provide a way to express order concerns directly with the restaurants. I can already do that, I pick up a phone and express my concerns. What the law states in 4(d) is that the delivery platform must provide a mechanism for the consumer to express order concerns directly to the platform. I don't quite understand what this means, I thought I could already comment on the Uber Eats or DoorDash service, but it is between the consumer and the service not the consumer and the restaurant.


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Text of the bill itself (https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2024/676/BillText/er/PDF)

Shipping up to Boston
04-07-2024, 09:20 AM
[QUOTE=Bill14564;2319479]That statement is an oxymoron. Floridians *WILL* see different prices if it has been agreed upon with the restaurant. The delivery platform can no longer unilaterally increase food prices in order to hide fees BUT they can charge those fees to the restaurant which might agree to increase food prices to cover them.



That is not what the bill says.
Today, customers can have as much communication with the restaurant as they want; there is nothing preventing me from picking up the phone and calling. What the bill does is provide the customer's contact information to the restaurant so that the restaurant can initiate a contact. It isn't that I need to order anonymously but I just don't see the value to me to have the restaurant calling me while I am eating.

Second, the law does not state that delivery firms must provide a way to express order concerns directly with the restaurants. I can already do that, I pick up a phone and express my concerns. What the law states in 4(d) is that the delivery platform must provide a mechanism for the consumer to express order concerns directly to the platform. I don't quite understand what this means, I thought I could already comment on the Uber Eats or DoorDash service, but it is between the consumer and the service not the consumer and the restaurant.

Translation....many quality establishments that have always done it right will eventually go back to take out/pick up only....by the customer. Too much bureaucratic BS.

Topspinmo
04-07-2024, 09:21 AM
For lazy people that can’t get off their couch. No wonder the world has gotten so fat. Maybe try cooking something wholesome? Just a thought…

Just eat it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

Topspinmo
04-07-2024, 09:24 AM
I still don't understand why the law is needed.

"The restaurant had no control"
"The customer simply had no recourse"

Huh? Who is preventing the restaurant from establishing rules for the delivery service, and who is forcing the customer to do business with a specific restaurant?

Maybe it not big problem around here. Funny how law works isn’t it. :sad:

Bill14564
04-07-2024, 09:28 AM
Translation....many quality establishments that have always done it right will eventually go back to take out/pick up only....by the customer. Too much bureaucratic BS.

I don't believe I have ever used a delivery service. I don't like the business model of charging the restaurant, charging me, and then expecting me to pay (tip) the driver. This just seems like a lot of money for coming up with the idea of having an app.

I know profit margins are tight in the restaurant business so I would rather spend money on the restaurant rather than the app developer. I know of one restaurant here than can take online orders through a delivery service. I suspect they get charged a fee for every order that comes in that way, even if I drive to the restaurant and pick it up myself. I now phone in my order to avoid costing the restaurant that fee.

Eat-in or carryout/pickup for me.

Mjsscotto
04-07-2024, 11:38 AM
If you’re a consumer who doesn’t use the delivery service you don’t give a hoot about the Bill. If you do use the service like thousands of Floridians do, the Bill is meaningful. So lose the “Shrugs”. It matters to many users.

JMintzer
04-07-2024, 01:33 PM
Are the bathrooms on the golf courses multi-user like those at the squares where there might be two people in one at the same time? Or are just worried about catching cooties?

Each bathroom is a "one-holer"... Meaning single user...

So, I'm going with the "Cooties" reason...

Shipping up to Boston
04-07-2024, 01:43 PM
Each bathroom is a "one-holer"... Meaning single user...

So, I'm going with the "Cooties" reason...

We used to have the ‘p*ss trough’ communal concept at Fenway Park. Nobody got hurt as far as I know. Sorry, I digress....

JMintzer
04-07-2024, 02:25 PM
We used to have the ‘p*ss trough’ communal concept at Fenway Park. Nobody got hurt as far as I know. Sorry, I digress....

I remember them at the old RFK Stadium in DC, when I was a kid...

It was hell if you had a "shy bladder"...

I'm sure there was some "emotional damage" done... :loco: