Bad Golf Advice

[mtdjed]

Was playing golf at an executive course today and there were several course workers removing moss from a tree on a par 4 hole. These workers were several hundred feet ahead of the T-Box and definitely not on the fairway but certainly not out of bounds. When we cautioned them that we were about to Tee Off, they ignored us and continued their work. We all hit our tee shots to avoid errant shots and no harm was done.

(And yes I reported this - as I am sure others have in the past but it obviously continues with some workers. I would think that employers should train, require protective equipment, and monitor conformance with safety protocol)

While this may not be common, it does occur. If we ignore their lack of safety and accidently harm someone, I am sure we could/would be held liable. A simple etiquette yell of "fore" would hardly be a defense.

[villagetinker]

Had this happen to us about a week and a half ago, I was wondering what the penalty was and if the ball ended up in the bucket how would we play it??? OK on a serious note, we ignored them, but the chain saw they were using to trim branches was annoying.

[Gpsma]

Another great golfing complaint.

[cjrjck]

Was playing golf at an executive course today and there were several course workers removing moss from a tree on a par 4 hole. These workers were several hundred feet ahead of the T-Box and definitely not on the fairway but certainly not out of bounds. When we cautioned them that we were about to Tee Off, they ignored us and continued their work. We all hit our tee shots to avoid errant shots and no harm was done.

(And yes I reported this - as I am sure others have in the past but it obviously continues with some workers. I would think that employers should train, require protective equipment, and monitor conformance with safety protocol)

While this may not be common, it does occur. If we ignore their lack of safety and accidently harm someone, I am sure we could/would be held liable. A simple etiquette yell of "fore" would hardly be a defense.

I normally just ask them to temporarily stand in the middle of the fairway where they will be safe. The ones that need to worry with me on the tee box are those residents working or lounging in their yards a hundred yards left of the out of bounds marker.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I normally just ask them to temporarily stand in the middle of the fairway where they will be safe. The ones that need to worry with me on the tee box are those residents working or lounging in their yards a hundred yards left of the out of bounds marker.

I have your driver....and your TaylorMade ball ( it’s next to my lanai, on top of the shards of glass ;)

[badkarma318]

I follow the golf course etiquette shown in the Michael Douglas film "Falling Down".

[Two Bills]

Same as previous replies, I just aim at them.
Their safety is assured.

[Mrmean58]

Was playing golf at an executive course today and there were several course workers removing moss from a tree on a par 4 hole. These workers were several hundred feet ahead of the T-Box and definitely not on the fairway but certainly not out of bounds. When we cautioned them that we were about to Tee Off, they ignored us and continued their work. We all hit our tee shots to avoid errant shots and no harm was done.

(And yes I reported this - as I am sure others have in the past but it obviously continues with some workers. I would think that employers should train, require protective equipment, and monitor conformance with safety protocol)

While this may not be common, it does occur. If we ignore their lack of safety and accidently harm someone, I am sure we could/would be held liable. A simple etiquette yell of "fore" would hardly be a defense.

During this time of the year, golfers are on the exec courses from 7am until after 8:30pm. When do you suggest this work be done? Midnight to 6am? There are some jobs that have to be done during the day when golfers are present. It's not reasonable to expect a work crew to take a 2 minute break every 8-10 minutes to allow golfers to tee off with the possibility of them getting hit by a tee ball that's 25-35 yards off target. We could all improve the safety of not only the workers but our fellow golfers by spending more time on the range to improve our ball striking. Just a positive suggestion.

[mike234]

During this time of the year, golfers are on the exec courses from 7am until after 8:30pm. When do you suggest this work be done? Midnight to 6am? There are some jobs that have to be done during the day when golfers are present. It's not reasonable to expect a work crew to take a 2 minute break every 8-10 minutes to allow golfers to tee off with the possibility of them getting hit by a tee ball that's 25-35 yards off target. We could all improve the safety of not only the workers but our fellow golfers by spending more time on the range to improve our ball striking. Just a positive suggestion.
I often call the ambulance, and fire depts, and ask them not to use sirens while passing the course I am playing on....they said they would document it

[ThirdOfFive]

Was playing golf at an executive course today and there were several course workers removing moss from a tree on a par 4 hole. These workers were several hundred feet ahead of the T-Box and definitely not on the fairway but certainly not out of bounds. When we cautioned them that we were about to Tee Off, they ignored us and continued their work. We all hit our tee shots to avoid errant shots and no harm was done.

(And yes I reported this - as I am sure others have in the past but it obviously continues with some workers. I would think that employers should train, require protective equipment, and monitor conformance with safety protocol)

While this may not be common, it does occur. If we ignore their lack of safety and accidently harm someone, I am sure we could/would be held liable. A simple etiquette yell of "fore" would hardly be a defense.
Happened to us a few times. I'm sure they're aware of the risks (and covered by worker's comp.) but I always give them a heads-up before we hit our shot. Usually a wave but if they're close I'll say something good-natured and then let it be. Some move, some don't.

One thing I DO find rather irritating though is when the "ambassadors" do the same thing. Not frequent but it DOES happen. Not long back one of them stopped on our tee area and proceeded to put sand in divots in the gold and green tee boxes. We tee off from black, and just stood around waiting to tee off onto a vacant green while he finished is (very leisurely) task.

[Heytubes]

Sirens and chainsaws don’t bother me as I always remove my hearing aids while playing golf. Only drawback is I can’t hear when someone says Fore!

[jarodrig]

This is yet another frivolous complaint !!

[Shipping up to Boston]

This is yet another frivolous complaint !!

Yeah, can we get back to talking about bunions and favorite stool softeners! ;)

[jarodrig]

Yeah, can we get back to talking about bunions and favorite stool softeners! ;)

And don’t forget about the “dog poop” complaints…….haven’t had those in a while …<complaints , that is …..:)>

[mike234]

Sirens and chainsaws don’t bother me as I always remove my hearing aids while playing golf. Only drawback is I can’t hear when someone says Fore!
you could probably get a great home, near the highway, or near an airport with no hearing aids on

[jimjamuser]

Was playing golf at an executive course today and there were several course workers removing moss from a tree on a par 4 hole. These workers were several hundred feet ahead of the T-Box and definitely not on the fairway but certainly not out of bounds. When we cautioned them that we were about to Tee Off, they ignored us and continued their work. We all hit our tee shots to avoid errant shots and no harm was done.

(And yes I reported this - as I am sure others have in the past but it obviously continues with some workers. I would think that employers should train, require protective equipment, and monitor conformance with safety protocol)

While this may not be common, it does occur. If we ignore their lack of safety and accidently harm someone, I am sure we could/would be held liable. A simple etiquette yell of "fore" would hardly be a defense.
I wonder if they had safety helmets on? I see a lot of workers without helmets or ear defenders. Many are independent grass cutters, but they will be deaf after about 5 years of work around the LOUD, LOUD riding lawnmowers. I wonder, do they have ANY muffler at all - let alone a catalytic converter? Sometimes Florida seems like the WILD WEST like the above and the recent shootout near Miami.

[Jhrath7@gmail.com]

Was playing golf at an executive course today and there were several course workers removing moss from a tree on a par 4 hole. These workers were several hundred feet ahead of the T-Box and definitely not on the fairway but certainly not out of bounds. When we cautioned them that we were about to Tee Off, they ignored us and continued their work. We all hit our tee shots to avoid errant shots and no harm was done.

(And yes I reported this - as I am sure others have in the past but it obviously continues with some workers. I would think that employers should train, require protective equipment, and monitor conformance with safety protocol)

While this may not be common, it does occur. If we ignore their lack of safety and accidently harm someone, I am sure we could/would be held liable. A simple etiquette yell of "fore" would hardly be a defense.
Probably didn’t speak English

[JMintzer]

Yeah, can we get back to talking about bunions and favorite stool softeners! ;)

I can help with one of those problems...

[Topspinmo]

I wonder if they had safety helmets on? I see a lot of workers without helmets or ear defenders. Many are independent grass cutters, but they will be deaf after about 5 years of work around the LOUD, LOUD riding lawnmowers. I wonder, do they have ANY muffler at all - let alone a catalytic converter? Sometimes Florida seems like the WILD WEST like the above and the recent shootout near Miami.


You need to move quickly to you’re safe state fast!!!!!!!

Said the same thing about rock and roll. Ear headphones, and ear bugs. Waiting for millions to be deaf??? Looks like not going to happen. Now if said hearing lost them maybe yes.

[JMintzer]

I wonder if they had safety helmets on? I see a lot of workers without helmets or ear defenders. Many are independent grass cutters, but they will be deaf after about 5 years of work around the LOUD, LOUD riding lawnmowers. I wonder, do they have ANY muffler at all - let alone a catalytic converter? Sometimes Florida seems like the WILD WEST like the above and the recent shootout near Miami.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/63/a6/c3/63a6c356be6f363f27c7592b764dfb69.gif

[cjrjck]

You need to move quickly to you’re safe state fast!!!!!!!

Said the same thing about rock and roll. Ear headphones, and ear bugs. Waiting for millions to be deaf??? Looks like not going to happen. Now if said hearing lost them maybe yes.

Yep.

[GatorGolf]

That was hilarious. I'm in the same boat a lot of times. 🤣

[mtdjed]

This is yet another frivolous complaint !!

It won't be frivolous when some poor soul gets hit and killed or paralyzed. There will be some lawyer who takes the responsible party, The Villages, and the contractor who employed the victim to court . The Judge "Did you hit the ball that killed the victim. You "Yes but he wouldn't move". Judge "So that gave you the right to kill him. Guilty. Next "

[merrymini]

I have almost been hit a significant number of times while in my backyard gardening by golfers on a championship course. You would think that people playing that course would be better players, think again. Hitting the ball straight would be a better approach. I refuse to neglect my property to accommodate them!

[margaretmattson]

It won't be frivolous when some poor soul gets hit and killed or paralyzed. There will be some lawyer who takes the responsible party, The Villages, and the contractor who employed the victim to court . The Judge "Did you hit the ball that killed the victim. You "Yes but he wouldn't move". Judge "So that gave you the right to kill him. Guilty. Next "Each member of your group should be prohibited from playing golf. At the end of the day, IT IS JUST A GAME! When playing, if you see a group of workers, keep everyone safe. Do not tee off and continue to move down the course. Place your balls in an agreed upon spot, then each of you take your next shot from there. The workers are no longer in harms way. Adjust like any normal adult would. Do you think anyone cares about your final score? If so, I end my response with, EACH MEMBER OF YOUR GROUP SHOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM PLAYING GOLF.

[JMintzer]

Each member of your group should be prohibited from playing golf. At the end of the day, IT IS JUST A GAME! When playing, if you see a group of workers, keep everyone safe. Do not tee off and continue to move down the course. Place your balls in an agreed upon spot, then each of you take your next shot from there. The workers are no longer in harms way. Adjust like any normal adult would. Do you think anyone cares about your final score? If so, I end my response with, EACH MEMBER OF YOUR GROUP SHOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM PLAYING GOLF.

Ridiculous...

[margaretmattson]

Ridiculous...Anyone who is willing to place a person's life in danger while they are playing a frivilous game should be stopped from playing that game. Does it really matter if you have to miss a shot? Your final score does not mean A THING! You are simply out there enjoying a game with friends. Act like responsible adults when doing so. Believe it or not, the world doesn't have to stop turning while you tee off. If you believe so, you too, should be prohibited from playing golf. You are a danger to others.

This scenario has happened to many of us. We adjust. Why? Because WE SEE we may injure someone. We NEVER tell workers to stop working nor do we whine and complain when finished. Why? BECAUSE IT IS A GAME and we realize sometimes it may need to be adjusted. Rule number one if ANY GAME is to play safe.

Don't believe it? Good luck convincing a judge and jury. If you injure or kill another while playing a round of golf, I am certain they will make you pay for your actions.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Wow! It’s amazing how someone’s pride getting dinged, unintentionally, from an errant tee shot goes from an accident to a sensational murder trial. I think i’ll go back to putting thru the windmill at the local mini golf! Smh

[Shipping up to Boston]

I’m taking wagers....how many more posts like the above before a new TOTV ad sponsor from a local law firm pops up on the threads

[margaretmattson]

Wow! It’s amazing how someone’s pride getting dinged, unintentionally, from an errant tee shot goes from an accident to a sensational murder trial. I think i’ll go back to putting thru the windmill at the local mini golf! SmhWhen you are playing a frivolous game, If at any time you get angry, annoyed, whine, or complain about interruptions, you shouldn't play that game. You are not ADULT enough to realize it is just a game and that it means NOTHING to anyone but yourself. Insisting the world should stop while you tee off is the epitome of entitlement.

I have read about people punching each other during golf. The result? Had to pay for their actions in a court of law. I have seen long and intense arguing, people throwing clubs down the fairway, balls thrown in anger, and more! If you can't keep control of your emotions while playing a silly game, you should be banned. Anyone can see you are a danger and in the worst of scenarios, someone may get killed. So what? A few workers got in your way during a round of golf. Get over it!

[JMintzer]

Anyone who is willing to place a person's life in danger while they are playing a frivilous game should be stopped from playing that game. Does it really matter if you have to miss a shot? Your final score does not mean A THING! You are simply out there enjoying a game with friends. Act like responsible adults when doing so. Believe it or not, the world doesn't have to stop turning while you tee off. If you believe so, you too, should be prohibited from playing golf. You are a danger to others.

This scenario has happened to many of us. We adjust. Why? Because WE SEE we may injure someone. We NEVER tell workers to stop working nor do we whine and complain when finished. Why? BECAUSE IT IS A GAME and we realize sometimes it may need to be adjusted. Rule number one if ANY GAME is to play safe.

Don't believe it? Good luck convincing a judge and jury. If you injure or kill another while playing a round of golf, I am certain they will make you pay for your actions.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

We see workers on the course all the time. They also see us. They stop what they're doing for the few seconds it takes to take our shots and life goes on...

Being on a golf course (either playing or working) carries an "assumption of risk"...

Your fantasy that you'll "pay for your actions" is just plain silly...

[JMintzer]

When you are playing a frivolous game, If at any time you get angry, annoyed, whine, or complain about interruptions, you shouldn't play that game. You are not ADULT enough to realize it is just a game and that it means NOTHING to anyone but yourself. Insisting the world should stop while you tee off is the epitome of entitlement.

I have read about people punching each other during golf. The result? Had to pay for their actions in a court of law. I have seen long and intense arguing, people throwing clubs down the fairway, balls thrown in anger, and more! If you can't keep control of your emotions while playing a silly game, you should be banned. Anyone can see you are a danger and in the worst of scenarios, someone may get killed. So what? A few workers got in your way during a round of golf. Get over it!

Last time I checked, "punching someone" was not part of the game... And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the actual discussion...

But sure, bring ridiculous fantasy scenarios into the argument... It's a sure sign you've lost the debate...

[margaretmattson]

Last time I checked, "punching someone" was not part of the game... And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the actual discussion...

But sure, bring ridiculous fantasy scenarios into the argument... It's a sure sign you've lost the debate... I was not the FIRST on this thread to bring up life threatening possibilities that could happen when adults act like children and whine when they do not get their way. I agreed with a post and added a REAL NEWS STORY of two who acted like children on the golf course and had to go to court. Unnecessary injuries have happened on the golf courses that were caused by a few who took their game far too seriously. It is a game. Win, lose, or draw, you should ALWAYS keep control of your emotions and make adjustments when necessary.

The world stops for you EVERYTIME you tee off? I think you just explained why the golf courses are in bad shape. Too many golfers expecting the workers to stop what they are doing so they can play their game. Even pros in various sports stop a game if there is a sign of danger. Those who cannot should be banned from playing.

I am proud that I play with groups who believe someone's life is more important than the game. They NEVER ask anyone to stop their work or expect a worker to keep track of what adults are doing around them. They do not believe a worker should patiently stop and wait each time someone needs to hit a golf ball. Reporting them for trying to complete their work is ridiculous. It is so much easier for the golfers to avoid the work area and adjust their game. Everyone remains safe and the needed work gets completed.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I was not the FIRST on this thread to bring up life threatening possibilities that could happen by adults who act like children and whine when they do not get their way. I agreed with a post and added a REAL NEWS STORY of two who acted like children on the golf course and had to go to court.

The world stops for you EVERYTIME you tee off? I think you just explained why the golf courses are in bad shape. Too many golfers expecting the workers to stop what they are doing so they can play their game. Even pros in various sports stop a game if there is a sign of danger. Those who cannot should be banned from playing.

I am proud that I play with groups who believe someone's life is more important than the game. They NEVER ask anyone to stop their work or expect a worker to keep track of what adults are doing around them. They do not believe a worker should patiently stop and wait each time someone needs to hit a golf ball. Reporting them for trying to complete their work is ridiculous. It is so much easier for the golfers to avoid the work area and adjust their game. Everyone remains safe and the needed work gets completed.

I’m just waiting for one of the many analyst nerds here to crunch the numbers on their search engines....to support your many posts regarding injuries, civil/criminal lawsuits, murder convictions. I’m just a realist, I think in this country, more likely wildlife would suffer that fate on a course than a human being. I’ve seen more injuries and victims of golf cart ‘accidents’ than golf ball strikes. It just doesn’t rise to the level of hysteria your recent posts have displayed. All due respect

[margaretmattson]

I’m just waiting for one of the many analyst nerds here to crunch the numbers on their search engines....to support your many posts regarding injuries, civil/criminal lawsuits, murder convictions. I’m just a realist, I think in this country, more likely wildlife would suffer that fate on a course than a human being. I’ve seen more injuries and victims of golf cart ‘accidents’ than golf ball strikes. It just doesn’t rise to the level of hysteria your recent posts have displayed. All due respectAll due respect, I was not the FIRST on this thread to bring up death and injury.

Don't believe my REAL NEWS story? Google the words man punches a senior on the golf course in the Villages. I do not feel the need to upload it. I know I am telling the truth. A few seniors in our community could not control their sense of entitlement.Enraged, they have killed or injured others. It happens!

When I read the OP, I thought it was childish and written by someone who obviously takes the game TOO SERIOUSLY. Pointing out and giving a REAL EXAMPLE of what could happen when one is in that mental state IS NOT ridiculous. Hopefully, the OP and his group realize golf is just a game. Things happen and you move on. Hope for a better game next time. And, always play safe.

[Shipping up to Boston]

All due respect, I was not the FIRST on this thread to bring up death and injury.

Don't believe my REAL NEWS story? Google the words man punches a senior on the golf course in the Villages. I do not feel the need to upload it. I know I am telling the truth.

When I read the OP, I thought it was childish and written by someone who obviously takes the game TOO SERIOUSLY. Pointing out and giving a REAL EXAMPLE of what could happen when one is in that mental state IS NOT ridiculous. Hopefully, the OP and his group realize it is just a game. Things happen and you move on. Hope for a better game next time. And, always play safe.

If you divide the number of rounds of golf played....just on Villages courses in a calendar year....by the amount of physical altercations during said rounds, it would be an anemic number. At points throughout this threads existence you would think we were talking about Times Square at 2am. I, like you, play the game as intended and respect all who play and work around me. The rest of the nonsense described by others is the responsibility of course management to enforce and mitigate

[Stu from NYC]

If you do not hit them on your shot can you take a mulligan?

[JMintzer]

I was not the FIRST on this thread to bring up life threatening possibilities that could happen when adults act like children and whine when they do not get their way. I agreed with a post and added a REAL NEWS STORY of two who acted like children on the golf course and had to go to court. Unnecessary injuries have happened on the golf courses that were caused by a few who took their game far too seriously. It is a game. Win, lose, or draw, you should ALWAYS keep control of your emotions and make adjustments when necessary.

The world stops for you EVERYTIME you tee off? I think you just explained why the golf courses are in bad shape. Too many golfers expecting the workers to stop what they are doing so they can play their game. Even pros in various sports stop a game if there is a sign of danger. Those who cannot should be banned from playing.

I am proud that I play with groups who believe someone's life is more important than the game. They NEVER ask anyone to stop their work or expect a worker to keep track of what adults are doing around them. They do not believe a worker should patiently stop and wait each time someone needs to hit a golf ball. Reporting them for trying to complete their work is ridiculous. It is so much easier for the golfers to avoid the work area and adjust their game. Everyone remains safe and the needed work gets completed.

Yes, the minute or three it takes to tee off really puts a damper in the maintenance of the courses...

There are workers ALL OVER the courses. Should we "skip a shot" every time we see one? That's just plain silly.

The workers know we're there, they pull to the side, turn of their engines for a sec, give us a wave and carry on with their day...

Who ever suggested "reporting the workers"? Certainly not me! Just another red herring to support your ridiculous argument...

In your fantasy scenario, we'd be forgoing tee shots, 2nd shots, chips to the green, etc, etc, etc...

But I'm sure you just pick up your ball and soldier on...

Do you use those REALLY long tees when you tee of from your pedestal of virtue?

And once again, I NEVER mentioned idiots fighting on the course. YOU are the one who keeps bringing up that foolishness...

Grasp at straws much?

[JMintzer]

I’m just waiting for one of the many analyst nerds here to crunch the numbers on their search engines....to support your many posts regarding injuries, civil/criminal lawsuits, murder convictions. I’m just a realist, I think in this country, more likely wildlife would suffer that fate on a course than a human being. I’ve seen more injuries and victims of golf cart ‘accidents’ than golf ball strikes. It just doesn’t rise to the level of hysteria your recent posts have displayed. All due respect

"All due respect"... LOL!

Reminds me of a bit by comedian Dom Irrera "I don't mean that in a bad way", and "With all due respect"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if-jEQe0A1c

[JMintzer]

If you do not hit them on your shot can you take a mulligan?

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

[Shipping up to Boston]

"All due respect"... LOL!

Reminds me of a bit by comedian Dom Irrera "I don't mean that in a bad way", and "With all due respect"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if-jEQe0A1c

I would love to play in a foursome with you two! My lawyer will be the fourth!

[margaretmattson]

I would love to play in a foursome with you two! My lawyer will be the fourth!I have learned some take golf FAR TOO SERIOUSLY. Your lawyer would have a field day amid some of them. Me? I'll continue to take skip shots when I feel someone may be in danger. It's just a game and my score means nothing.

[JMintzer]

I have learned some take golf FAR TOO SERIOUSLY. Your lawyer would have a field day amid some of them. Me? I'll continue to take skip shots when I feel someone may be in danger. It's just a game and my score means nothing.

I have learned that some people virtue signal at every chance they get...

I'll continue to play the game the way it was intended to be played...

[fdpaq0580]

If you do not hit them on your shot can you take a mulligan?

I don't like Mulligan. Can I take O'Malley instead?

[fdpaq0580]

Was playing golf at an executive course today and there were several course workers removing moss from a tree on a par 4 hole. These workers were several hundred feet ahead of the T-Box and definitely not on the fairway but certainly not out of bounds. When we cautioned them that we were about to Tee Off, they ignored us and continued their work. We all hit our tee shots to avoid errant shots and no harm was done.

(And yes I reported this - as I am sure others have in the past but it obviously continues with some workers. I would think that employers should train, require protective equipment, and monitor conformance with safety protocol)

While this may not be common, it does occur. If we ignore their lack of safety and accidently harm someone, I am sure we could/would be held liable. A simple etiquette yell of "fore" would hardly be a defense.

"Fore"? And all these years I've been shouting "Four"!

[Velvet]

If the workers were in a position they might get hit, why would they not wear protection such as a helmet etc. Maybe because the probability of a hit is very low.