Will the Historical Area Endure?

[motherflippinpicker]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

[Bay Kid]

I must say the developers seem to keep all the ares beautiful and we hope it will continue.

[Laker14]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

I"ve never lived there, but I've visited there many times to play golf. I think for anyone who bemoans how TV has grown out of its original concept, this area might be a great place to consider. To me it still has the old "Bubble" feel that is missing the farther south you go.

I wouldn't worry about it being "abandoned" by TV. Some complain about changes, like the ones they made at Hacienda, but to me that is evidence of a willingness to change with the times, which is the opposite of abandonment.

[Stu from NYC]

You never know but does not seem the developer plan is to keep growing. Would imagine they make money on this area and if so would not think they would sell.

[villagetinker]

As I recall the developer was buying some of the manufactured homes and tearing these down and replacing with new stick or block homes, not sure if this is still being done.

[SIRE1]

I do not think you would have to worry. The developer is still involved in this section. They have recently done major improvements to the executive golf courses and are in the middle of building a new Rec Center. Plus, they have been buying up older manufactured homes and replacing them with stick built homes that have the same floor plans and look as those elsewhere in The Villages. And I agree, this area has a "feel" that is unique to anywhere else in The Villages. So keep it on your short list of places to consider.

[motherflippinpicker]

I must say the developers seem to keep all the ares beautiful and we hope it will continue.

The beauty of TV is like no other. We currently live in a very pretty gated community on the Treasure Coast. For the same HOA fees we can live in TV. We can't wait! We've visited many times over the past few years and didn't consider moving until last year.

We hear so many cons of being further north but we love the look and feel so much. People tell us we are too young to live north (55) but does friendship really have an age? My dearest friend recently passed, she was 94 and we were best of friends.

When I'm in the southern areas, it doesn't feel the same to me; however, we have friends in Hawkins who tout that the South is the only place to be. We are very torn.

Thank you for your insight and if you have anymore advice, I'm open to any and all.

[motherflippinpicker]

I"ve never lived there, but I've visited there many times to play golf. I think for anyone who bemoans how TV has grown out of its original concept, this area might be a great place to consider. To me it still has the old "Bubble" feel that is missing the farther south you go.

I wouldn't worry about it being "abandoned" by TV. Some complain about changes, like the ones they made at Hacienda, but to me that is evidence of a willingness to change with the times, which is the opposite of abandonment.

Thank you putting my mind at ease. I completely agree with the bubble feeling north compared to the South. We just love the North.

[motherflippinpicker]

You never know but does not seem the developer plan is to keep growing. Would imagine they make money on this area and if so would not think they would sell.

That was actually my concern, do they make enough money up there to keep it part of the TV? I don't know how many homes are up there but it didn't feel too terribly big.

Thank you for putting my mind at ease.

[motherflippinpicker]

I do not think you would have to worry. The developer is still involved in this section. They have recently done major improvements to the executive golf courses and are in the middle of building a new Rec Center. Plus, they have been buying up older manufactured homes and replacing them with stick built homes that have the same floor plans and look as those elsewhere in The Villages. And I agree, this area has a "feel" that is unique to anywhere else in The Villages. So keep it on your short list of places to consider.

Thank you for your insight, it's very appreciated. We inquired about the buy outs, but it sounds like they had to end the program, at least for now, as it was hindering sales on pricier new builds in the southern areas. Maybe once they exhaust that, they will get back to the buy out plan?

Thank you for putting my mind at ease.

[Lottoguy]

Please look into what the cost of insurance is in that area. Many of these homes are self insured because of many are of the manufactured variety. This location is great for shopping and medical needs. But, remember everytime you want to leave that area you will be crossing over 441 in a golf cart if that is what your use to.

[mraines]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?
I live in a site built house on the historical side and I love it here. There is more individuality in the homes and lots of trees. We have 4 pools on this side, golf, bocce, tennis, pickleball and horseshoes.
There is no place I need to go that I cannot get to by golf cart. This is why I live here. It is close to shopping, doctors and restaurants. Good luck in your choice.

[Stu from NYC]

Do whatever is best for you but here is a thought.

You will be far away from the other 4 squares and lots of things to do. Would you suggest you rent for a month or more to explore and pick what is best for you.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I live in the Historic Section. Yes, it's beautiful, I personally feel it's the best. No, they won't be building out. Why? There's no place for them to expand up here. That's /why/ they expanded west and south. North and east are already spoken for and developed by other people.

The developer no longer buys up foreclosures to rebuild. It remains an option for them to do that, but they stopped doing it a few years ago.

The pool the OP is referring to is a priority pool. It's not an amenity, if you want to use it, you have to pay extra. It's part of the Country Club, which is privately owned by the Developer. But yes it is absolutely gorgeous. Our side has three other pools, that are available for all Villagers, and paid for our of our monthly amenity fee. Those are Hilltop adult pool, Paradise family pool, and Southside adult pool. Southside does have a hot tub.

As for age - please keep this in mind, and consider pragmatism and logic over emotion when you read this:

Many residents of the Historic area are REALLY OLD. That means homes here are going up for sale often, because people who get REALLY OLD die. They are replaced by younger people who are not really old. So many of the people moving in, are younger. In their 50's, and early 60's. Yes, your neighbor might be 80. And your 80-year-old neighbor is probably in better shape than you are because she's been living and participating in this incredibly active sports-based community for the past 20 years, while you've been stuck behind your desk 8 hours a day and only participate in sports on your annual vacation. Your 80-year-old neighbor has lots of stories about life, knows everyone in the neighborhood and can introduce you, can help you find a nearby club to suit your interests, and can probably get a kick out of taking you to the square for a night of dancing once in awhile.

And then, when your 80-year-old neighbor turns 95, she might end up having to sell her home and move into assisted living. And the new neighbor will be 55 - but by then you'll be the old lady.

Such is the ebb and flow of aging in the Historic section.

[Laker14]

This thread spurs some questions for me.
Is the developer the only one who would be allowed to tear down an existing manufactured home and replace it with a site-built home?

When people raise a concern over whether the developer will continue to take care of the historic section, I thought that other than Orange Blossom CC, everything was owned and maintained by the CDD. Keeping the amenities up to date, and the common landscaping etc. is not the job of the developer, or am I mistaken?

[kansasr]

That was actually my concern, do they make enough money up there to keep it part of the TV? I don't know how many homes are up there but it didn't feel too terribly big.

Thank you for putting my mind at ease.

The Village of Country Club has the most homes of any village at 1,778. Silver Lake is #5 with 1,517.

I wouldn't worry.

[Dusty_Star]

The beauty of TV is like no other. We currently live in a very pretty gated community on the Treasure Coast. For the same HOA fees we can live in TV. We can't wait! We've visited many times over the past few years and didn't consider moving until last year.

We hear so many cons of being further north but we love the look and feel so much. People tell us we are too young to live north (55) but does friendship really have an age? My dearest friend recently passed, she was 94 and we were best of friends.

When I'm in the southern areas, it doesn't feel the same to me; however, we have friends in Hawkins who tout that the South is the only place to be. We are very torn.

Thank you for your insight and if you have anymore advice, I'm open to any and all.

Could you share with us what the perceived cons are of being further north? We might be able to help, as many of us have actual experience of living further north.

[rustyp]

This thread spurs some questions for me.
Is the developer the only one who would be allowed to tear down an existing manufactured home and replace it with a site-built home?

When people raise a concern over whether the developer will continue to take care of the historic section, I thought that other than Orange Blossom CC, everything was owned and maintained by the CDD. Keeping the amenities up to date, and the common landscaping etc. is not the job of the developer, or am I mistaken?

The answer to your question is homes are being replaced all the time and private contractors are putting up new homes on the historic side.

As for the developer leaving the historic side - doubtful.
- Not a good example for future new home buyers
- The Paradise fire station is one of nine in TV and by far the closest to Spanish Springs. The next nearest being Morse and 466.
- The Hilltop water tower is one of five supplying TV
- The Orange Blossom swimming pool is the flagship of TV

[Bitsee]

The bottom line is how much are you willing to spend for housing, and or, the new bonds ?

We absolutely love the original north part of The Villages, had 4 homes up there to date. I'm a bonified tree-hugger, always have been.
The newest area is also exciting, was down there Sunday. Very alive and full of young, smiling energetic faces.....do you fit that mold ?

If you want the shade trees I suggest you also check out Mira Mesa, La Reynalda, La Zamora, Chatham and Tierra Del Sol just to name a few besides Orange Blossom.
Fenney also has beautiful trees, love that area as well !

Happy Hunting !

[JP]

The further N you go, the older the people are so golf courses and pools are less busy because people become less and less able or willing to participate in these activities. When I go golfing, I like to book more N courses because they are not as busy and people aren't as frantic.

[Rainger99]

I thought that other than Orange Blossom CC, everything was owned and maintained by the CDD. Keeping the amenities up to date, and the common landscaping etc. is not the job of the developer, or am I mistaken?

That is what I thought.

Anyone have the answer?

[motherflippinpicker]

The Village of Country Club has the most homes of any village at 1,778. Silver Lake is #5 with 1,517.

I wouldn't worry.

Oh wow! Thank you. This makes me feel so much better.

[motherflippinpicker]

Could you share with us what the perceived cons are of being further north? We might be able to help, as many of us have actual experience of living further north.

The cons: We are too young to live in the North.

The fun is further south.

We will never be able to enjoy neighborhood parties/socials

It's too far to drive to the new town square being built of East Port.

We won't be able to get to activities easily.

We won't make friends because we will be isolated.

There's a negative stigma attached to the historical area.

We would be choosing to live in a trailer park.

It's weird up there, rules aren't enforced.

Spanish Springs is a terrible town square

Nobody younger goes to LSL

Whew... I probably forgot several. However, we don't feel this way at all. Everytime we visit we gravitate to the North. I particularly don't like Sawgrass but I would love boozie bingo. 😄

I struggle with being social and do need to step out of my comfort zone. I think some feel that I'll not do that if I'm in the Northern area.

[motherflippinpicker]

The answer to your question is homes are being replaced all the time and private contractors are putting up new homes on the historic side.

As for the developer leaving the historic side - doubtful.
- Not a good example for future new home buyers
- The Paradise fire station is one of nine in TV and by far the closest to Spanish Springs. The next nearest being Morse and 466.
- The Hilltop water tower is one of five supplying TV
- The Orange Blossom swimming pool is the flagship of TV

This makes me feel much more secure! Thank you!

[MightyDog]

Could you share with us what the perceived cons are of being further north? We might be able to help, as many of us have actual experience of living further north.
Was trying to decide where to post this question so, I'll pose it to you, Dusty.

As a sort-of adjunct question to the original one -- I'm interested in how the manufactured homes appreciate/depreciate over time. When looking at real estate listings, I've been a bit surprised at how much some homeowners have been willing to invest in remodeling an aged (40+ years), manufactured home.

There has to be a point, related to age or neglect, where maintaining or improving one of those begins to have diminishing returns. Would you say that is mostly accurate? If so, what is the general age where the building itself begins to depreciate and it's mostly only the land value that's relevant? Thanks...

[JMintzer]

The beauty of TV is like no other. We currently live in a very pretty gated community on the Treasure Coast. For the same HOA fees we can live in TV. We can't wait! We've visited many times over the past few years and didn't consider moving until last year.

We hear so many cons of being further north but we love the look and feel so much. People tell us we are too young to live north (55) but does friendship really have an age? My dearest friend recently passed, she was 94 and we were best of friends.

When I'm in the southern areas, it doesn't feel the same to me; however, we have friends in Hawkins who tout that the South is the only place to be. We are very torn.

Thank you for your insight and if you have anymore advice, I'm open to any and all.

Your friends are Hawkins is correct... Hawkins is the best place to live FOR THEM...

Everyone feels the same thing about where they live... For some, it the Historic area. For others, it's anywhere north of 466. For me? It'a "between 466A and 44"...

Look around. Like others have said, rent for a month (if possible). You'll soon find the place that fits you best...

[Two Bills]

Please look into what the cost of insurance is in that area. Many of these homes are self insured because of many are of the manufactured variety. This location is great for shopping and medical needs. But, remember everytime you want to leave that area you will be crossing over 441 in a golf cart if that is what your use to.

What is wrong with using the bridge?

[motherflippinpicker]

The bottom line is how much are you willing to spend for housing, and or, the new bonds ?

We absolutely love the original north part of The Villages, had 4 homes up there to date. I'm a bonified tree-hugger, always have been.
The newest area is also exciting, was down there Sunday. Very alive and full of young, smiling energetic faces.....do you fit that mold ?

If you want the shade trees I suggest you also check out Mira Mesa, La Reynalda, La Zamora, Chatham and Tierra Del Sol just to name a few besides Orange Blossom.
Fenney also has beautiful trees, love that area as well !

Happy Hunting !

Money is definitely on our minds as we are nearing retirement but we could get a regular home for not much more than a nice manufactured home, so it's about the same. My draw to the manufactured homes is that they all look very different and the windows are beautiful. I love the landscaping, trees and rolling hills. I think it's so beautiful up there.

Thank you for the suggested villages, it's very appreciated

[motherflippinpicker]

Your friends are Hawkins is correct... Hawkins is the best place to live FOR THEM...

Everyone feels the same thing about where they live... For some, it the Historic area. For others, it's anywhere north of 466. For me? It'a "between 466A and 44"...

Look around. Like others have said, rent for a month (if possible). You'll soon find the place that fits you best...

Thank you so much!!!

[motherflippinpicker]

The further N you go, the older the people are so golf courses and pools are less busy because people become less and less able or willing to participate in these activities. When I go golfing, I like to book more N courses because they are not as busy and people aren't as frantic.

I like the less busy aspect but I do want to be able to make friends. It's very hard for me to make friends, I'm kind of shy and perceived as standoffish or snooty but that's so far from the truth, I just don't know how to jump in. 😄

If there aren't many activities in the north, maybe we should consider moving further south but it sounds like there's enough of everything. My husband was very excited about the archery range in the north.

There is a lot of positive feedback about the North, which makes me very happy.

[Two Bills]

I like the less busy aspect but I do want to be able to make friends. It's very hard for me to make friends, I'm kind of shy and perceived as standoffish or snooty but that's so far from the truth, I just don't know how to jump in. 😄

If there aren't many activities in the north, maybe we should consider moving further south but it sounds like there's enough of everything. My husband was very excited about the archery range in the north.

There is a lot of positive feedback about the North, which makes me very happy.

My wife and I overwintered for many years, and always stayed North of 466A
You are looking at the best areas in my opinion.

[Papa_lecki]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

The developer doesn’t own the homes, they would need to buy your home and replace it.
The developer doesn’t operate the amenities in this area.
They do operate the championship golf courses, which are in the best condition. Hacienda Hills is getting a brand new pro shop, and that area got a new pool
The developer does own Spanihs Springs and is investing in SS. If they don’t Villagers wont come and the real estate will lose value.

[Dusty_Star]

Was trying to decide where to post this question so, I'll pose it to you, Dusty.

As a sort-of adjunct question to the original one -- I'm interested in how the manufactured homes appreciate/depreciate over time. When looking at real estate listings, I've been a bit surprised at how much some homeowners have been willing to invest in remodeling an aged (40+ years), manufactured home.

There has to be a point, related to age or neglect, where maintaining or improving one of those begins to have diminishing returns. Would you say that is mostly accurate? If so, what is the general age where the building itself begins to depreciate and it's mostly only the land value that's relevant? Thanks...

I don't know. I hope others who know will answer. I live in a Designer in between 466A & 44

[Dusty_Star]

The cons: We are too young to live in the North.

The fun is further south.

We will never be able to enjoy neighborhood parties/socials

It's too far to drive to the new town square being built of East Port.

We won't be able to get to activities easily.

We won't make friends because we will be isolated.

There's a negative stigma attached to the historical area.

We would be choosing to live in a trailer park.

It's weird up there, rules aren't enforced.

Spanish Springs is a terrible town square

Nobody younger goes to LSL

Whew... I probably forgot several. However, we don't feel this way at all. Everytime we visit we gravitate to the North. I particularly don't like Sawgrass but I would love boozie bingo. 😄

I struggle with being social and do need to step out of my comfort zone. I think some feel that I'll not do that if I'm in the Northern area.

Wow! I think the only one that might be true is: it would be a longer drive to Eastport. I just did a Google Maps & they tell me that from Orange Blossom Hills Country Club to Eastport town square is 16 miles (via car), they predict it would take a half hour. It would be up to you to decide if a drive of 16 miles is too far.

A shocking thing might be the older neighborhoods do have socials & driveway parties, & whatnot.

I am north of 44 & south of 466A &my neighbors are extremely friendly. There are driveway get togethers for as many days as you want. Could be every day - rainy days excepted. It would be up to you to join in.

As for the activities, well, that depends on what activities you want to do. I just looked at the Thursday supplement & I found Sunshine Bingo at the Chula Vista Rec Center (I think that's close to where you are looking). I don't know Sunshine Bingo - no mention of booze. Maybe someone who knows will chime in.

The rest seem kind of subjective...

As for stepping out of your comfort zone, I think The Villages is probably the easiest place on earth to do that. The invitations will arrive, north or south, it is up to you to say Yes.

[shaw8700@outlook.com]

I like the less busy aspect but I do want to be able to make friends. It's very hard for me to make friends, I'm kind of shy and perceived as standoffish or snooty but that's so far from the truth, I just don't know how to jump in. 😄

If there aren't many activities in the north, maybe we should consider moving further south but it sounds like there's enough of everything. My husband was very excited about the archery range in the north.


There is a lot of positive feedback about the North, which makes me very happy.
Everything you’ve written is what I’m going through right now! My husband likes the Spanish Springs area and I’m trying to get him to the Sumter Landing area but he LOVES the trees up north. I’ve been here for two weeks in a rental and we are looking. Send me an email if you want to commiserate over lunch.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

This thread spurs some questions for me.
Is the developer the only one who would be allowed to tear down an existing manufactured home and replace it with a site-built home?

When people raise a concern over whether the developer will continue to take care of the historic section, I thought that other than Orange Blossom CC, everything was owned and maintained by the CDD. Keeping the amenities up to date, and the common landscaping etc. is not the job of the developer, or am I mistaken?

The developer has no part in the decision-making process for the manufactured homes. If you buy a mfg. home that's in bad shape and you want it deconstructed and build a site-built in its place, you absolutely can. You don't need the developer's permission. You /do/ need ARC approval and the home has to be up to spec and follow zoning laws and deed restrictions. So, you can't put a sidewalk in near the curb. You can't have a 2-floor house with an in-law suite, you can't put in apartments or townhouses or condos, you can't have outbuildings that aren't attached to the main home, and so on and so forth.

People who buy on the Historic Side own their property, just like people in all single-family homes in The Villages. The developer doesn't own them, and neither does any CDD.

The Historic Section doesn't exist within a CDD at all. Instead, the VCCDD oversees our amenities and water service and the town of Lady Lake, in Lake County, oversees our roads, sewers, trash pickup, etc. Technically it's called:

Village Center Community Development District: Lady Lake/Lake County

There's also a section of the Historic area, most of the southwest corner of it, that is in something called Enclave Parcels. I think at one point they tried to annex themselves, or maybe the county line cuts through there, or something.

[tophcfa]

The historic area is without a doubt one of the nicest areas in the entire Villages. We rented there long term before buying and strongly considered buying there. We still go there often to play Hilltop and Silver Lake (and Orange Blossom during the off season), use the outdoor exercise equipment, walk the dog around Lake Paradise, ride our bikes around the area, and use the gate that gives us access to Lowe’s, WaWa for ethanol free gas, and Tropical Smoothie. After taking the bridge over 441 you get a different vibe than anywhere else in the Villages, in a good way. The historic area will definitely endure, and it abides, just like the dude : )

[msilagy]

My first home was in Country Club Hills in the historic area. That seems to me to be the best looking area. I was on St Andrews Blvd down from the country club. Just choose wisely and be sure the home is solid. Very nice area. Good luck. (I now live closer to Sumter Landing in a courtyard villa that suits me better)

[La lamy]

The beauty of TV is like no other. We currently live in a very pretty gated community on the Treasure Coast. For the same HOA fees we can live in TV. We can't wait! We've visited many times over the past few years and didn't consider moving until last year.

We hear so many cons of being further north but we love the look and feel so much. People tell us we are too young to live north (55) but does friendship really have an age? My dearest friend recently passed, she was 94 and we were best of friends.

When I'm in the southern areas, it doesn't feel the same to me; however, we have friends in Hawkins who tout that the South is the only place to be. We are very torn.

Thank you for your insight and if you have anymore advice, I'm open to any and all.

I made my move here when I was 55, and similar as you, one of my best friend is 98!
I love the historic section for its mature landscaping, more character and real "village" feel. The value of a well maintained manufactured home is much preferable to a newer built and I love the bigger lots. There are a lot more younger people here now too, but as you said, age is just a number.
I like to play pickleball further south a lot, but it's easy enough to drive there. Have fun with your search!

[huge-pigeons]

The north part of TV (north of 466) is really looking old and dated. I would agree with the developer, it’s time to start knocking down old houses too. If you like that look, go for it. If you like going 25 mph on Morse, go for it, if you like the lack of separate and safer golf cart paths but rather share Morse with bicycles, golf carts, and cars, go for it. If you don’t like natural gas, stay north. If you like the older age group, 75-85, buy in the north part. If you shop everyday and like the busy 441 area, then the north is your area.
The south is where the developers fixed all the issues of the north and made them better in the south. Newer looking homes, separate golf cart paths from the roads and even separate paths for walking and biking from the golf carts. Natural gas, much younger group, updated looks, south of 44 is the best. Sure the area might cost more like in bonds, but well worth it overall.
Eastport is going to be even better, they are going to put in some cool new things like a dragon boat lake, indoor pickleball, and the same separate paths.

[Laurawilcox]

Just be aware the HOA you pay now outside of the Villages likely covers some amount of insurance and repairs. The payment here does not. Also the historical district likely owed no bonds, not true further south.

[RRGuyNJ]

We currently live in a very pretty gated community on the Treasure Coast. For the same HOA fees we can live in TV.

Just curious, does your development have a similar "Bond" set up like the Villages? I understand the concept, just don't agree with giving the developer a free ride to get started. Never heard of it in other states but then I have always tried to avoid HOA's like the plague until recently. Thanks and good luck with your move.

[Redsmom]

It will endure. My husband and I have owned two homes and one rental home on that side over the years. Our observation is that as time goes on the manufactured homes are being replaced slowly by site built homes. You are right, the manufactured homes are very well-made and maintained. That area definitely has that bubble feel and the view from the hilltop is magnificent.

[coleprice]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

The Villages continues to maintain ALL Areas that they developed throughout the years. This includes the "Historic" area with it's beautiful ponds, rec centers and golf courses.

If you are a Golfer shopping for a home in The Villages, you should NOT purchase a New Home in the Southern Areas, which have very few Executive Golf Courses. Rather, you should buy a Pre-Owned home in the Middle or Northern areas (including, but not limited to the Historic Area) which have plenty of golf courses nearby.

[RRGuyNJ]

The north part of TV (north of 466) is really looking old and dated. I would agree with the developer, it’s time to start knocking down old houses too. If you like that look, go for it. If you like going 25 mph on Morse, go for it, if you like the lack of separate and safer golf cart paths but rather share Morse with bicycles, golf carts, and cars, go for it. If you don’t like natural gas, stay north. If you like the older age group, 75-85, buy in the north part. If you shop everyday and like the busy 441 area, then the north is your area.
The south is where the developers fixed all the issues of the north and made them better in the south. Newer looking homes, separate golf cart paths from the roads and even separate paths for walking and biking from the golf carts. Natural gas, much younger group, updated looks, south of 44 is the best. Sure the area might cost more like in bonds, but well worth it overall.
Eastport is going to be even better, they are going to put in some cool new things like a dragon boat lake, indoor pickleball, and the same separate paths.

"separate golf cart paths from the roads "

It appears the newest sections recently built and currenetly being built, have more and more golf cart lanes on the main roads and less dedicated cart paths. I'm guessing it's all about money and is cheaper than dedicated paths.

[GizmoWhiskers]

Assess your needs and wants. "Different stroke for different folks."

The Villages is planning to develop for I believe I heard for the next 15 years. If that's the case and they would even remotely entertain abandoning areas in "north" then that could mean eventually they could potentially abandon Brownwood and the 44 area as the new old north.

One can endlessly worry about each old "north." People are currently building slab houses in the historic section north of 441 without the developer actually building them. Drive around up there and you will see a couple in progress. T V is going to be working on the SS bridge I believe as well. All signs indicate they are not going to abandon that area.

I do not think T V would abandon the area that was created as the original "dream"... or would the 4th to future heirs let it go?...

Now that I think about that... who knows with kids now days and what will be of value to them in the future.

Examine the areas and pick the one that pulls on your heart strings. "Home is where the heart is."

[Villager1234]

I live in the Historic Section. Yes, it's beautiful, I personally feel it's the best. No, they won't be building out. Why? There's no place for them to expand up here. That's /why/ they expanded west and south. North and east are already spoken for and developed by other people.

The developer no longer buys up foreclosures to rebuild. It remains an option for them to do that, but they stopped doing it a few years ago.

The pool the OP is referring to is a priority pool. It's not an amenity, if you want to use it, you have to pay extra. It's part of the Country Club, which is privately owned by the Developer. But yes it is absolutely gorgeous. Our side has three other pools, that are available for all Villagers, and paid for our of our monthly amenity fee. Those are Hilltop adult pool, Paradise family pool, and Southside adult pool. Southside does have a hot tub.

As for age - please keep this in mind, and consider pragmatism and logic over emotion when you read this:

Many residents of the Historic area are REALLY OLD. That means homes here are going up for sale often, because people who get REALLY OLD die. They are replaced by younger people who are not really old. So many of the people moving in, are younger. In their 50's, and early 60's. Yes, your neighbor might be 80. And your 80-year-old neighbor is probably in better shape than you are because she's been living and participating in this incredibly active sports-based community for the past 20 years, while you've been stuck behind your desk 8 hours a day and only participate in sports on your annual vacation. Your 80-year-old neighbor has lots of stories about life, knows everyone in the neighborhood and can introduce you, can help you find a nearby club to suit your interests, and can probably get a kick out of taking you to the square for a night of dancing once in awhile.

And then, when your 80-year-old neighbor turns 95, she might end up having to sell her home and move into assisted living. And the new neighbor will be 55 - but by then you'll be the old lady.

Such is the ebb and flow of aging in the Historic section.

Please don’t tell anyone else about the hot tub in Southside. It’s supposed to be our secret 🤫😁

[MandoMan]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

The Historical Villages are much nicer than I expected and have better landscaping than I expected. Still, double-wide “manufactured homes” don’t survive as long as regular houses, and the insides are of a lower quality. They also have carports rather than garages. Housing prices there are lower, and sometimes much lower. A number of the original houses have been replaced by fancier new homes, though I don’t see how that is cheaper than buying a place south of 441. If that continues, the neighborhoods will continue. If you are on a tight budget, it’s a good place to buy, as the Amenities Fee is MUCH lower than the fees at nearby trailer parks.

As far as I’m concerned, the major problem is younger people moving into the neighborhood. A number of these seem to be drug-addicts and petty criminals, making the Historical Villages less safe than most of The Villages. Less dangerous than many of the surrounding cities, but more dangerous than The Villages south of 466, where most of the residents are retired. I’d like to see that entire area restricted to retired people.

[Annie66]

My only concern with manufactured homes is their sturdiness in high winds.

[Nana2Teddy]

I like the less busy aspect but I do want to be able to make friends. It's very hard for me to make friends, I'm kind of shy and perceived as standoffish or snooty but that's so far from the truth, I just don't know how to jump in. 😄

If there aren't many activities in the north, maybe we should consider moving further south but it sounds like there's enough of everything. My husband was very excited about the archery range in the north.

There is a lot of positive feedback about the North, which makes me very happy.
There’s an archery range in Fenney too, which is a gorgeous village full of beautiful, huge live oaks south of 44 (wish we’d bought there).

If you want to be able to socialize with your Hawkin’s friends you’ll be doing a lot of driving between the two locations. At least an hour and a half by cart one way, or 45 minutes to an hour by car. Keep these things in mind when making your decision.

Also, you won’t have a garage with a manufactured home. Just a carport. That was a huge NO for us when we moved here in 2022. The bigger the garage the better.

The advice you’re receiving to rent first for awhile to get a better feel for all locations is very wise. Best of luck!

[monroekathi@gmail.com]

The beauty of TV is like no other. We currently live in a very pretty gated community on the Treasure Coast. For the same HOA fees we can live in TV. We can't wait! We've visited many times over the past few years and didn't consider moving until last year.

We hear so many cons of being further north but we love the look and feel so much. People tell us we are too young to live north (55) but does friendship really have an age? My dearest friend recently passed, she was 94 and we were best of friends.

When I'm in the southern areas, it doesn't feel the same to me; however, we have friends in Hawkins who tout that the South is the only place to be. We are very torn.

Thank you for your insight and if you have anymore advice, I'm open to any and all.

There are lots of younger people in the northern areas. There might be a higher percentage in the southern area, but no one needs thousands of friends. We have found friends of all ages, our own and older (& younger) in a northern village. Find the area that speaks to you. There are plenty of friends to be made no matter where you hang your hat.

[Pat2015]

Money is definitely on our minds as we are nearing retirement but we could get a regular home for not much more than a nice manufactured home, so it's about the same. My draw to the manufactured homes is that they all look very different and the windows are beautiful. I love the landscaping, trees and rolling hills. I think it's so beautiful up there.

Thank you for the suggested villages, it's very appreciated
Spend a few dollars more and buy a house vs a manufactured home as there are a lot of buyers out there that won’t buy a manufactured house which significantly limits your resale ability should you decide to sell at some point.

[Randall55]

Everything you’ve written is what I’m going through right now! My husband likes the Spanish Springs area and I’m trying to get him to the Sumter Landing area but he LOVES the trees up north. I’ve been here for two weeks in a rental and we are looking. Send me an email if you want to commiserate over lunch.Spanish Springs and Lake Sumter are only three miles apart. If you look at homes near 466, both of you will be happy. 1.5 miles to Spanish Springs, 1.5 miles to Lake Sumter. Bonus! Brownwood will only be 8 miles away. You can meet your friend from Hawkins there. Buy on the Morse Blvd side near 466 and Sawgrass Grove will be 11 miles away. The new paradise rec center in the historic side will only be 3 miles away.

This area has many golf courses, restaurants, stores, and medical offices The hospital will be 2 miles away.

[hosegooseman]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

We bought a 1984 manufactured home in Silver Lake (historic side). We couldn’t be happier.

Not only with the things you mentioned but the incredible easy of access to Supermarkets, large chain stores, restaurants, two of the best town squares in my opinion:

Spanish Springs and Lake Sumter (5 and 18 minutes by golf cart respectively).

I can get to most places mentioned in 10 minutes or less by golf cart, with an average of 5 minutes among all.

Paradise Rec Center is about to be rebuilt with an estimated $20M investment.

Silver Lake Rec Center was “refreshed” including new pool tables about 1.5 yrs ago.

Hill Top golf course was reopened a few months after extensive renovations. Not to mentioned the view from hole #1 which is one of the most spectacular ones.

Tight on budget? Get a fixer upper manufactured home or open land and built your dream home. Many options available.

And btw, I don’t work for TV. This is our experience…😎

[sallyg]

We lived in the historic district for 5 years and liked all the things you mentioned. It is also a super-convenient location. You are minutes from shopping, banks, rec center, pools, golf, hospital etc. I would not be afraid to buy there. Best of luck.

[rustyp]

My only concern with manufactured homes is their sturdiness in high winds.

In spite of themselves those manf homes have endured here in TV for 40-50 years.

1973 - Florida begins requiring tie-downs, at four corners only.

June 15, 1976 - HUD takes control of mobile home standards, and additional tie down requirements added per manufacturer’s installation manuals.

July 13, 1994 - HUD upgrades structural requirements, including addition of Wind Zone 3 for high-wind prone hurricane areas of Florida.

October 1, 1996 - Florida begins requiring mobile home installers to be licensed.

March 29, 1999 - Florida makes major changes to strengthen the tie-down requirements above HUD standards, part of the state Administrative Code Rule 15C-1.

[Dgodin]

We built on an empty lot in the historic area 5 years ago. We've never regretted it. Golf cart access to shopping is excellent and nearby. Mature trees, less traffic (except 441).
I have no reason to believe the developer will abandon the area. In fact, we are getting a new multi million dollar rec center.

[ABGinVA]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

I also love the "historic" section and bought a house there a few years ago after looking at all the different areas in TV. Everyone always says this area is full of old people, but I am finding that as the older population moves on to their next adventure, younger folks are moving in.

TV appears committed to maintaining and improving this area. For example, Paradise rec center is going to be completely replaced/updated, Hilltop and Silver Lake exec courses have both recently undergone extensive upgrades. And you already know about the fabulous Orange Blossom pool.

This area is special. Whenever I travel elsewhere in TV, I always breathe a sigh of relief and the stress in my body vanishes when I get back to the historic side. It is peaceful with less traffic, a little more slow-paced and relaxed. And you are right - all the properties are different. So fun to walk or cart around and see what others are doing with their homes. Love it!

:welcome:

[motherflippinpicker]

Just curious, does your development have a similar "Bond" set up like the Villages? I understand the concept, just don't agree with giving the developer a free ride to get started. Never heard of it in other states but then I have always tried to avoid HOA's like the plague until recently. Thanks and good luck with your move.

Hi. Surprisingly, the HOA we live in does have a bond/CDD. After research, we discovered there aren't many CDDs left in FL. I think Ava Maria, TV and a couple others are the only CDDs left. The bond is what deters us from new construction entirely and we don't look at preexisting homes with bonds either, unless very small.

[MSGirl]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

This is still a very desirable area for the reasons you mentioned. There is a lot of new being built but without the ambience of the original Villages.

[motherflippinpicker]

We bought a 1984 manufactured home in Silver Lake (historic side). We couldn’t be happier.

Not only with the things you mentioned but the incredible easy of access to Supermarkets, large chain stores, restaurants, two of the best town squares in my opinion:


Spanish Springs and Lake Sumter (5 and 18 minutes by golf cart respectively).

I can get to most places mentioned in 10 minutes or less by golf cart, with an average of 5 minutes among all.

Paradise Rec Center is about to be rebuilt with an estimated $20M investment.

Silver Lake Rec Center was “refreshed” including new pool tables about 1.5 yrs ago.

Hill Top golf course was reopened a few months after extensive renovations. Not to mentioned the view from hole #1 which is one of the most spectacular ones.

Tight on budget? Get a fixer upper manufactured home or open land and built your dream home. Many options available.

And btw, I don’t work for TV. This is our experience…😎

Thank you for the feedback. As I read more and more of these "happy to be in the North" comments, it makes me feel like we all love it for the same reasons.

I just remember the first time we were up there with a realtor and we were told by the realtor that we definitely did not want to be in that area but my husband and I were looking at each other thinking 'but it's so beautiful up here!' We left so confused and so began our research.

I'm excited to start house hunting. Thanks again!

[SIRE1]

What I love about The Villages is that everyone thinks their area is the BEST !!! And I guess, that is why they bought there. I live north of 466 and EVERYONE of the people "up here" think this is the Best area and can't stand being south of 44. The people in the middle (between 466 and 44) think their area is the Best and feel they are centrally located to everything. The people in the south (south of 44) think their area is the best because of the activities and new things that are being built every day. So you are going to get 150,000 opinions on what is the Best area. It totally depends on you !!! And you will NEVER get a consistent answer to that "Best" question here on the TOTV forum....

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The Historical Villages are much nicer than I expected and have better landscaping than I expected. Still, double-wide “manufactured homes” don’t survive as long as regular houses, and the insides are of a lower quality. They also have carports rather than garages. Housing prices there are lower, and sometimes much lower. A number of the original houses have been replaced by fancier new homes, though I don’t see how that is cheaper than buying a place south of 441. If that continues, the neighborhoods will continue. If you are on a tight budget, it’s a good place to buy, as the Amenities Fee is MUCH lower than the fees at nearby trailer parks.

As far as I’m concerned, the major problem is younger people moving into the neighborhood. A number of these seem to be drug-addicts and petty criminals, making the Historical Villages less safe than most of The Villages. Less dangerous than many of the surrounding cities, but more dangerous than The Villages south of 466, where most of the residents are retired. I’d like to see that entire area restricted to retired people.

Most of the drug addicts and petty criminals in the north area don't live in The Villages at all. Crime is still very low, just as it is very low throughout The Villages. There are drug addicts and petty criminals in the Wildwood area of The Villages, and some guy who'd been living in one of the Lakeside Cottages at Sumter Landing was terrorizing the neighborhood for a good long time.

You had an entire homeless encampment under one of the southern area bridges for awhile, and squatters in a house south of Sumter somewhere just last year.

As for survivability of the homes - let's see. There was a tornado several years back that destroyed a couple of houses south of Spanish Springs. No homes were damaged in the old section that day. Hurricanes have blown through and flooded areas of The Villages, including the old section, but none of the homes in the old section had significant damage or need to be replaced. There've been lightning-strike fires in homes in the southern areas, that haven't happened in the old section. Sinkholes caused a couple of houses in the southern section to be condemned. That hasn't happened in the old section.

The southern areas seem to get boil water warnings every couple of months. The old area gets them a couple of times a year.

Most of the manufactured homes here, have been here since the mid-1980's. They're still standing, they're still in great shape, and the owners maintain and update them as needed. In fact, the windows in MY manufactured are probably better than the ones in yours. I have double-hung, double-paned, e-gas whatever Andersen windows. We also have a metal roof, which means our house is significantly less likely to be damaged by lightning than yours is.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Hi. Surprisingly, the HOA we live in does have a bond/CDD. After research, we discovered there aren't many CDDs left in FL. I think Ava Maria, TV and a couple others are the only CDDs left. The bond is what deters us from new construction entirely and we don't look at preexisting homes with bonds either, unless very small.

The Historic area never had bonds.
All the Spanish Springs area bonds have already been paid off, most homes around the Savannah center on El Camino Real and Buena Vista, and parts north of that, have had their bonds paid off by now.

Generally speaking - anything north of 466 will have either no bond left to pay, never had a bond in the first place, or very little bond owed.

[lawgolfer]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

I hate myself for joining in this thread. However, if you want advice, I'm glad to give it. I recommend that you not buy in the historic section. The manufactured homes are quite old and many are in need of repair and updating. Instead, I recommend that, based on what you say you like, that you buy in the Spanish Springs area, particularly along the Rio Grande corridor off of Morse Ave. Most of the homes are of the size you appear to want, the trees are all mature, there are two excellent executive courses and the Hacienda championship course.

You will be minutes away from the town square and shopping along Hwy 441. One of the biggest benefits is that you will not have to cross Hwy 441 either in your car or in your golf cart via the bridge.

In summary, you will have everything you appear to want and in a more convenient location.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

I agree with your choice. Many criticize the manufactured homes but there are some beautiful ones that have withstood a lot of weather and still look good. Love the landscaping as well. There are some amazing deals out there. I do agree that your concerns about the developer may be unfounded. No need to walk away from the flagship. An earlier post seems most like the most logical path....buy up the older manufactured ones and flip them into the newer concepts. You don’t get to their level of success by being shortsighted. That area is important to their legacy. IMO

[Rodneysblue]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

We’re getting a replacement Regional Rec Center to replace the Paradise RRC.

[Fuzzyjourneyfan]

I live up north in Chatham and love it. I'm only 58 and have lived here for over two years. It's very quiet up here, and the neighbors are great. Many are older, but people move in and out, so that will change with time. As for me, I enjoy living around older people. My friends are from the clubs that I joined, so my friends live all over the place in the Villages. Up north, the traffic is very light--another benefit. We have an incredible (and fairly new) rec center here called First Responders. I go there daily. It's my favorite rec center, and it's on a very large piece of property, so they have a lot to do there. My wife and I were also drawn to the northern villages. Everyone is different. Trust your gut and go with it.

P.S. There are a few homes for sale on my street. You should check them out. My neighbor's house is move-in ready and beautiful. Message me if you want more information.

[coffeebean]

The beauty of TV is like no other. We currently live in a very pretty gated community on the Treasure Coast. For the same HOA fees we can live in TV. We can't wait! We've visited many times over the past few years and didn't consider moving until last year.

We hear so many cons of being further north but we love the look and feel so much. People tell us we are too young to live north (55) but does friendship really have an age? My dearest friend recently passed, she was 94 and we were best of friends.

When I'm in the southern areas, it doesn't feel the same to me; however, we have friends in Hawkins who tout that the South is the only place to be. We are very torn.

Thank you for your insight and if you have anymore advice, I'm open to any and all.

I feel as you do. The further south I go, the less it feels like what we have in the Lake Sumter Landing stomping ground. North of 44 is the furthest south I would ever consider if I were looking to purchase a home in The Villages for the first time.

[coffeebean]

Please look into what the cost of insurance is in that area. Many of these homes are self insured because of many are of the manufactured variety. This location is great for shopping and medical needs. But, remember everytime you want to leave that area you will be crossing over 441 in a golf cart if that is what your use to.
There is a bridge to cross over 441. It's a fun ride. I've done it only once but went "weeeeeeeeeee" on the way down.

[coffeebean]

I live in a site built house on the historical side and I love it here. There is more individuality in the homes and lots of trees. We have 4 pools on this side, golf, bocce, tennis, pickleball and horseshoes.
There is no place I need to go that I cannot get to by golf cart. This is why I live here. It is close to shopping, doctors and restaurants. Good luck in your choice.

I'm on board with being close to shopping, restaurants, retail stores, medical buildings and the hospital. The Lake Sumter Landing area is just south of the historic section. That is my happy place. Close to everything is what I like.

[coffeebean]

I live in the Historic Section. Yes, it's beautiful, I personally feel it's the best. No, they won't be building out. Why? There's no place for them to expand up here. That's /why/ they expanded west and south. North and east are already spoken for and developed by other people.

The developer no longer buys up foreclosures to rebuild. It remains an option for them to do that, but they stopped doing it a few years ago.

The pool the OP is referring to is a priority pool. It's not an amenity, if you want to use it, you have to pay extra. It's part of the Country Club, which is privately owned by the Developer. But yes it is absolutely gorgeous. Our side has three other pools, that are available for all Villagers, and paid for our of our monthly amenity fee. Those are Hilltop adult pool, Paradise family pool, and Southside adult pool. Southside does have a hot tub.

As for age - please keep this in mind, and consider pragmatism and logic over emotion when you read this:

Many residents of the Historic area are REALLY OLD. That means homes here are going up for sale often, because people who get REALLY OLD die. They are replaced by younger people who are not really old. So many of the people moving in, are younger. In their 50's, and early 60's. Yes, your neighbor might be 80. And your 80-year-old neighbor is probably in better shape than you are because she's been living and participating in this incredibly active sports-based community for the past 20 years, while you've been stuck behind your desk 8 hours a day and only participate in sports on your annual vacation. Your 80-year-old neighbor has lots of stories about life, knows everyone in the neighborhood and can introduce you, can help you find a nearby club to suit your interests, and can probably get a kick out of taking you to the square for a night of dancing once in awhile.

And then, when your 80-year-old neighbor turns 95, she might end up having to sell her home and move into assisted living. And the new neighbor will be 55 - but by then you'll be the old lady.

Such is the ebb and flow of aging in the Historic section.

OBB......agree with everything you said with one exception. Not only the historic section experiences this ebb an flow of aging; all of The Villages will eventually be on the receiving end of that life cycle.

[coffeebean]

Could you share with us what the perceived cons are of being further north? We might be able to help, as many of us have actual experience of living further north.

I'm not in the historic northern section but I can answer that question with one concern I have read about on this forum..........south of 44 have lots of nature areas including dedicated walking and bike paths. That means no golf carts will ever be on these paths (unless the driver makes a mistake). That is really nice if you are a walker or like to ride a bicycle.

[coffeebean]

Everything you’ve written is what I’m going through right now! My husband likes the Spanish Springs area and I’m trying to get him to the Sumter Landing area but he LOVES the trees up north. I’ve been here for two weeks in a rental and we are looking. Send me an email if you want to commiserate over lunch.

Just south of 466 on Morse Blvd. is a forest of really old Live Oak trees. The area has picnic area complete with picnic tables and golf cart parking. This area is on the east side of the Morse Blvd bridge AKA the Lake Sumter Landing area. Make sure to point out to your husband that there are nice trees and very mature trees in LSL area.

[Dusty_Star]

....However, if you want advice, I'm glad to give it. I recommend that you not buy in the historic section. The manufactured homes are quite old and many are in need of repair and updating. Instead, I recommend that, based on what you say you like, that you buy in the Spanish Springs area, particularly along the Rio Grande corridor off of Morse Ave. Most of the homes are of the size you appear to want, the trees are all mature, there are two excellent executive courses and the Hacienda championship course.

You will be minutes away from the town square and shopping along Hwy 441. One of the biggest benefits is that you will not have to cross Hwy 441 either in your car or in your golf cart via the bridge.

In summary, you will have everything you appear to want and in a more convenient location.

I agree with what LawGolfer said, with one addition. Watch the property taxes. This applies to Orange Blossom, Silver Lake, & Country Club too, avoid the villages of: Del Mar, El Cortez, Mira Mesa, La Reynalda, Valle Verde, & La Zamora. All of these villages are in Lake County & Lake County has higher property taxes than Sumter. I don't know if these properties also have Lady Lake city taxes, but they may. Look at the county property tax appraiser's website for each house you are considering. That will show the taxes levied on that property.

Sumter County: Just a moment... (https://qpublic.schneidercorp.com/Application.aspx?AppID=1207&LayerID=36374&PageTypeID=2&PageID=13870&KeyValue=D09L005)

Lake County: Forms : Lake County Property Appraiser (https://lakecopropappr.com/forms.aspx)

Also, this consideration applies to far north villages in Marion County, they also have higher property taxes.

Pay Taxes Online - Search the Tax Roll (https://www.mariontax.com/itm-search)

I did this when I was house hunting, & sometimes the variation on property taxes for roughly the same size & age house, was stunning.

Also, beware of the deep south. Hawkins has Wildwood city taxes piled on. An extra .0028287 on the taxable value of the house, fun! (not)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Sumter Landing area is definitely beautiful. I personally like the Odell circle and Bonita area just south of the Square, around Mallory.

The prices are much higher, but if I were to move into any place south of Sumter, that's about as far south as I'd go. Zero interest in anything past Colony. Zero interest in Brownwood and points south.

Another possibility if you can afford it would be across from the Polo Grounds off Buena Vista Blvd. A major downside to that area, is that's when they started going nuts with the "kissing lanais." The lanais are mostly in the back of the houses, and just barely 10 feet away from the neighbor's. So you have ZERO privacy, and no fences or privacy shrubs allowed. Trying to enjoy your morning cuppa on the lanai is not much fun if you have to deal with Morty smoking his morning cigar 11 feet away from you in an upwind.

[coffeebean]

Sumter Landing area is definitely beautiful. I personally like the Odell circle and Bonita area just south of the Square, around Mallory.

The prices are much higher, but if I were to move into any place south of Sumter, that's about as far south as I'd go. Zero interest in anything past Colony. Zero interest in Brownwood and points south.

Another possibility if you can afford it would be across from the Polo Grounds off Buena Vista Blvd. A major downside to that area, is that's when they started going nuts with the "kissing lanais." The lanais are mostly in the back of the houses, and just barely 10 feet away from the neighbor's. So you have ZERO privacy, and no fences or privacy shrubs allowed. Trying to enjoy your morning cuppa on the lanai is not much fun if you have to deal with Morty smoking his morning cigar 11 feet away from you in an upwind.

No shrubs allowed separating the "kissing" lanais in the Polo Grounds area? Really? I'm in Mallory and we are allowed hedges between the lanais. That does offer visual privacy but not audible privacy. This is the reason we didn't purchase a home with a kissing lanai. We are on a caul-de-sac which offers more room between the homes.

[Dusty_Star]

no... or privacy shrubs allowed.

I think you will find that no privacy greenery not being allowed is misinformed.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I think you will find that no privacy greenery not being allowed is misinformed.

As far as I can recall, shrubs can't be more than 4 feet high. The average person, standing up, is more than 5 feet tall.

That means anyone who is standing up on their lanai, will have a perfect view of their back door neighbor's hair curlers. If the person walking out to their lanai (and therefore, standing) is 6 feet tall, they'll probably have a good view of Mabel's droopy boobs as she reaches for the bathing suit she left out the night before to dry.

[Shipping up to Boston]

As far as I can recall, shrubs can't be more than 4 feet high. The average person, standing up, is more than 5 feet tall.

That means anyone who is standing up on their lanai, will have a perfect view of their back door neighbor's hair curlers. If the person walking out to their lanai (and therefore, standing) is 6 feet tall, they'll probably have a good view of Mabel's droopy boobs as she reaches for the bathing suit she left out the night before to dry.

You lost me at ‘droopy boobs’!

[Shipping up to Boston]

As far as I can recall, shrubs can't be more than 4 feet high. The average person, standing up, is more than 5 feet tall.

That means anyone who is standing up on their lanai, will have a perfect view of their back door neighbor's hair curlers. If the person walking out to their lanai (and therefore, standing) is 6 feet tall, they'll probably have a good view of Mabel's droopy boobs as she reaches for the bathing suit she left out the night before to dry.

So is the 4ft height the maximum? Is it monitored or enforced?

[Bogie Shooter]

So is the 4ft height the maximum? Is it monitored or enforced?

You may find this site helpful……….
VCDD Community Standards (https://districtgov.org/departments/Community-Standards/community-standards.aspx)

[JMintzer]

As far as I can recall, shrubs can't be more than 4 feet high. The average person, standing up, is more than 5 feet tall.

That means anyone who is standing up on their lanai, will have a perfect view of their back door neighbor's hair curlers. If the person walking out to their lanai (and therefore, standing) is 6 feet tall, they'll probably have a good view of Mabel's droopy boobs as she reaches for the bathing suit she left out the night before to dry.

4' high? Incorrect... As is your 10' apart comment...

All I'll say about your "droopy boobs" comment is, Im sure yours "are real, and they're spectacular!" (With apologies to Teri Hatcher)

[Dusty_Star]

As far as I can recall, shrubs can't be more than 4 feet high. The average person, standing up, is more than 5 feet tall.

That means anyone who is standing up on their lanai, will have a perfect view of their back door neighbor's hair curlers. If the person walking out to their lanai (and therefore, standing) is 6 feet tall, they'll probably have a good view of Mabel's droopy boobs as she reaches for the bathing suit she left out the night before to dry.

Nice shifting of the goal posts. No shrubbery turns into less than 4 feet, people are 6 feet tall, Mabel forgets to get dressed in the morning. I give up.

[Susanmr]

The historical side of TV is great for people who have trouble making new friends.
The older manufactured homes have lanais in the front or side which allows you to see your neighborhood while enjoying the fresh air. Wish your neighbors good morning as they walk past. Also there is the historical side social club which is great for newcomers. And all the clubs elsewhere are in the here as well. We love it here. Our neighborhood is a mixture of older retirees and younger with some like me not yet retired. And we have less intrusive rules than elsewhere. As well as extended pool hours that other villages don't enjoy, and a spa, that other villages don't enjoy.

[MightyDog]

Was trying to decide where to post this question so, I'll pose it to you, Dusty.

As a sort-of adjunct question to the original one -- I'm interested in how the manufactured homes appreciate/depreciate over time. When looking at real estate listings, I've been a bit surprised at how much some homeowners have been willing to invest in remodeling an aged (40+ years), manufactured home.

There has to be a point, related to age or neglect, where maintaining or improving one of those begins to have diminishing returns. Would you say that is mostly accurate? If so, what is the general age where the building itself begins to depreciate and it's mostly only the land value that's relevant? Thanks...

I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread -- very informative and OBB's atmospheric descriptions gave me a chuckle.

Wanted to bring my earlier post back to the top to see if anybody has any input about the bolded, in particular. I think it likely there isn't an ironclad point in time where the manufactured homes stop appreciating but, there's probably a general age.

[motherflippinpicker]

Most of the drug addicts and petty criminals in the north area don't live in The Villages at all. Crime is still very low, just as it is very low throughout The Villages. There are drug addicts and petty criminals in the Wildwood area of The Villages, and some guy who'd been living in one of the Lakeside Cottages at Sumter Landing was terrorizing the neighborhood for a good long time.

You had an entire homeless encampment under one of the southern area bridges for awhile, and squatters in a house south of Sumter somewhere just last year.

As for survivability of the homes - let's see. There was a tornado several years back that destroyed a couple of houses south of Spanish Springs. No homes were damaged in the old section that day. Hurricanes have blown through and flooded areas of The Villages, including the old section, but none of the homes in the old section had significant damage or need to be replaced. There've been lightning-strike fires in homes in the southern areas, that haven't happened in the old section. Sinkholes caused a couple of houses in the southern section to be condemned. That hasn't happened in the old section.

The southern areas seem to get boil water warnings every couple of months. The old area gets them a couple of times a year.

Most of the manufactured homes here, have been here since the mid-1980's. They're still standing, they're still in great shape, and the owners maintain and update them as needed. In fact, the windows in MY manufactured are probably better than the ones in yours. I have double-hung, double-paned, e-gas whatever Andersen windows. We also have a metal roof, which means our house is significantly less likely to be damaged by lightning than yours is.

Thank you for chiming in on the drug addict comment. I was semi freaking out! I have never seen a drugged person at TV and hope I don't.

What is the area you called Wildwood? I would like to avoid that area. Thank you!

[Shipping up to Boston]

Thank you for chiming in on the drug addict comment. I was semi freaking out! I have never seen a drugged person at TV and hope I don't.

What is the area you called Wildwood? I would like to avoid that area. Thank you!

You’d be surprised. Drug addiction has no socioeconomic boundaries and a 55+ demo community is definitely not immune to it. You may not see it specifically in your travels but make no mistake, it’s present.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Thank you for chiming in on the drug addict comment. I was semi freaking out! I have never seen a drugged person at TV and hope I don't.

What is the area you called Wildwood? I would like to avoid that area. Thank you!

Wildwood is a town.

Remember The Villages spans across the corners of two counties, and occupies most of a third county. These counties all have more than one town or city in them, and The Villages has real estate in several. The Historic side of The Villages occupies the town of Lady Lake, in Lake County. There's a section of The Villages that occupies a big chunk of Fruitland Park, a different town. The Village of Collier, I believe, is fully within the city of Wildwood, in Sumter County.

And so on.

[motherflippinpicker]

I hate myself for joining in this thread. However, if you want advice, I'm glad to give it. I recommend that you not buy in the historic section. The manufactured homes are quite old and many are in need of repair and updating. Instead, I recommend that, based on what you say you like, that you buy in the Spanish Springs area, particularly along the Rio Grande corridor off of Morse Ave. Most of the homes are of the size you appear to want, the trees are all mature, there are two excellent executive courses and the Hacienda championship course.

You will be minutes away from the town square and shopping along Hwy 441. One of the biggest benefits is that you will not have to cross Hwy 441 either in your car or in your golf cart via the bridge.

In summary, you will have everything you appear to want and in a more convenient location.

Thank you for your advice and I'm glad that you jumped in. I welcome all advice and insight. Knowledge is power. I very much appreciate your points of consideration. We have several homes we will be looking at that are not manufactured, as that was my concern. I'm worried about resale value for our children when we leave this place or can no longer live independently.

Again, your words are very much appreciated. Thank you.

[motherflippinpicker]

The historical side of TV is great for people who have trouble making new friends.
The older manufactured homes have lanais in the front or side which allows you to see your neighborhood while enjoying the fresh air. Wish your neighbors good morning as they walk past. Also there is the historical side social club which is great for newcomers. And all the clubs elsewhere are in the here as well. We love it here. Our neighborhood is a mixture of older retirees and younger with some like me not yet retired. And we have less intrusive rules than elsewhere. As well as extended pool hours that other villages don't enjoy, and a spa, that other villages don't enjoy.

Thank you highlighting the points. What is the historical social club? It sounds like something I need to join to try to get out of my shell a little.

I wasn't aware of the extended pool hours, something I would very much enjoy.

We aren't retired yet either but we are drastically reducing our work hours to participate in life more while we can still enjoy it.

[motherflippinpicker]

Sumter Landing area is definitely beautiful. I personally like the Odell circle and Bonita area just south of the Square, around Mallory.

The prices are much higher, but if I were to move into any place south of Sumter, that's about as far south as I'd go. Zero interest in anything past Colony. Zero interest in Brownwood and points south.

Another possibility if you can afford it would be across from the Polo Grounds off Buena Vista Blvd. A major downside to that area, is that's when they started going nuts with the "kissing lanais." The lanais are mostly in the back of the houses, and just barely 10 feet away from the neighbor's. So you have ZERO privacy, and no fences or privacy shrubs allowed. Trying to enjoy your morning cuppa on the lanai is not much fun if you have to deal with Morty smoking his morning cigar 11 feet away from you in an upwind.

Hi. Thank you the information on kissing lanais. I really don't want to have that and you painted a very good picture for me. Very appreciated!

[motherflippinpicker]

Wildwood is a town.

Remember The Villages spans across the corners of two counties, and occupies most of a third county. These counties all have more than one town or city in them, and The Villages has real estate in several. The Historic side of The Villages occupies the town of Lady Lake, in Lake County. There's a section of The Villages that occupies a big chunk of Fruitland Park, a different town. The Village of Collier, I believe, is fully within the city of Wildwood, in Sumter County.

And so on.

Thank you so much for the explanation. I thought there was a village that jokingly went by the name of Wildwood. 😄

[Topspinmo]

I live in a site built house on the historical side and I love it here. There is more individuality in the homes and lots of trees. We have 4 pools on this side, golf, bocce, tennis, pickleball and horseshoes.
There is no place I need to go that I cannot get to by golf cart. This is why I live here. It is close to shopping, doctors and restaurants. Good luck in your choice.

And the best billiard tables in villages, Diamonds! Not cheap residential tables in rest of villages. Diamonds are commercial models and will hold up to all play villages tables get. The skinny rail residential tables pockets break down plus majority ball rolls to inside off both long rails, can’t fix that IMO. IMO people in charge don’t know difference between residential /recreational tables vs commercial grade.

[motherflippinpicker]

I live up north in Chatham and love it. I'm only 58 and have lived here for over two years. It's very quiet up here, and the neighbors are great. Many are older, but people move in and out, so that will change with time. As for me, I enjoy living around older people. My friends are from the clubs that I joined, so my friends live all over the place in the Villages. Up north, the traffic is very light--another benefit. We have an incredible (and fairly new) rec center here called First Responders. I go there daily. It's my favorite rec center, and it's on a very large piece of property, so they have a lot to do there. My wife and I were also drawn to the northern villages. Everyone is different. Trust your gut and go with it.

P.S. There are a few homes for sale on my street. You should check them out. My neighbor's house is move-in ready and beautiful. Message me if you want more information.

Thank you for your insight. Could you describe how long it takes by Golf Car to get to the squares and what your nearest square is?

Our realtor made it sound unfavorable due to higher property taxes and distance to squares and shopping. There are several homes we wanted to look at but they were in Marion county. Do you have to pay city and county taxes?

Thank you for any additional insight you can provide.

[Shipping up to Boston]

And the best billiard tables in villages, Diamonds! Not cheap residential tables in rest of villages. Diamonds are commercial models and will hold up to all play villages tables get. The skinny rail residential tables pockets break down plus majority ball rolls to inside off both long rails, can’t fix that IMO. IMO people in charge don’t know difference between residential /recreational tables vs commercial grade.

Not to get too far off thread but great memories as a kid watching ABC Wide World of Sports ?...on a Saturday featuring Willie Mosconi and Minnesota Fats rivalry. Good tv at the time

[Topspinmo]

Not to get too far off thread but great memories as a kid watching ABC Wide World of Sports ?...on a Saturday featuring Willie Mosconi and Minnesota Fats rivalry. Good tv at the time


Yes, they played on Brunswick Gold Crowns.

[John Mayes]

Your friends are Hawkins is correct... Hawkins is the best place to live FOR THEM...

Everyone feels the same thing about where they live... For some, it the Historic area. For others, it's anywhere north of 466. For me? It'a "between 466A and 44"...

Look around. Like others have said, rent for a month (if possible). You'll soon find the place that fits you best...

My opinion, this is the best advice you can get. There is no “best” area. It just comes down to what you like and where you’re comfortable.

Best of luck and I’m sure you’ll find the right area for you.

[John Mayes]

Most of the drug addicts and petty criminals in the north area don't live in The Villages at all. Crime is still very low, just as it is very low throughout The Villages. There are drug addicts and petty criminals in the Wildwood area of The Villages, and some guy who'd been living in one of the Lakeside Cottages at Sumter Landing was terrorizing the neighborhood for a good long time.

You had an entire homeless encampment under one of the southern area bridges for awhile, and squatters in a house south of Sumter somewhere just last year.

As for survivability of the homes - let's see. There was a tornado several years back that destroyed a couple of houses south of Spanish Springs. No homes were damaged in the old section that day. Hurricanes have blown through and flooded areas of The Villages, including the old section, but none of the homes in the old section had significant damage or need to be replaced. There've been lightning-strike fires in homes in the southern areas, that haven't happened in the old section. Sinkholes caused a couple of houses in the southern section to be condemned. That hasn't happened in the old section.

The southern areas seem to get boil water warnings every couple of months. The old area gets them a couple of times a year.

Most of the manufactured homes here, have been here since the mid-1980's. They're still standing, they're still in great shape, and the owners maintain and update them as needed. In fact, the windows in MY manufactured are probably better than the ones in yours. I have double-hung, double-paned, e-gas whatever Andersen windows. We also have a metal roof, which means our house is significantly less likely to be damaged by lightning than yours is.

Hmmmmm…..I live south of 44. Been here three years and have never received a “boil water” alert.

[JMintzer]

Hi. Thank you the information on kissing lanais. I really don't want to have that and you painted a very good picture for me. Very appreciated!

Her info on kissing lanais was incorrect...

The picture she painted is not real...

[JMintzer]

Hmmmmm…..I live south of 44. Been here three years and have never received a “boil water” alert.

There's a lot of misinformation being given out on this thread...

[kansasr]

There's a lot of misinformation being given out on this thread...

There's a lot of misinformation going out on a lot of threads these days....if you heard it from your hairdresser's cousin, please don't post it here.

[Ropnrose]

Check out the weekly Rec Guide (District.org) to see what daily activities are in the area that you're looking at. Hanging out at the neighborhood pool is a good way to meet people too! I have made many good friends through the pool.


I like the less busy aspect but I do want to be able to make friends. It's very hard for me to make friends, I'm kind of shy and perceived as standoffish or snooty but that's so far from the truth, I just don't know how to jump in. 😄

If there aren't many activities in the north, maybe we should consider moving further south but it sounds like there's enough of everything. My husband was very excited about the archery range in the north.

Check out the weekly Rec Guide (District.org) to see the activities that you can participate in daily. You'll also meet people hanging out at your neighborhood pool. I've made some very good 'pool' friends-both snowbirds and fulltimers.

There is a lot of positive feedback about the North, which makes me very happy.

[Bogie Shooter]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

Have you given any thought to renting for some period of time? You have so many questions that really should have been asked earlier than a couple days before your house buying weekend.
As you can tell you are getting mixed messages……not sure how that can all be sorted out.
Also as noted, not all info is factual.

[motherflippinpicker]

Have you given any thought to renting for some period of time? You have so many questions that really should have been asked earlier than a couple days before you house buying weekend.
As you can tell you are getting mixed messages……not sure how that can all be sorted out.
Also as noted, not all info is factual.

We've been looking at and staying at TV for several years. We are definitely ready to buy. Originally, we were looking at the Southern areas but every time we are drawn to the North. Now we are looking more closely at the North and have questions. I don't know when we will make an offer, we are only just starting our search.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Hmmmmm…..I live south of 44. Been here three years and have never received a “boil water” alert.

So - this thread is about the Historic section.

Anything south of the Historic section - and its immediate surrounds - which would be the Spanish Springs area - is the "southern" area, in the context of this thread.

You probably knew that though.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Regarding the "kissing lanais" reference - feel free to run a search right here on the Talk of the Village forum for the phrase, and you'll get lots and lots of posts from people who have either bought in those neighborhoods, or considered them, or asked about them and were given lots of answers from long-time members, or seen them, or yes - heard about them from their hairdresser.

They're definitely a thing, they're not new, they are absolutely a downside in some areas where the developer made the decision to place the back wall of houses incredibly close to the back wall of other houses, with lanais in incredibly close proximity to each other.

My exaggeration and imaginative verbiage doesn't change the fact that they exist, and they can be problematic for people who enjoy peace and quiet on their lanais, in areas where lanais are placed incredibly close to each other.

[MightyDog]

Her info on kissing lanais was incorrect...

The picture she painted is not real...
J - Allow me to mention that you make many comments like this. Where you will make a declaration about something but, not define or describe why you are taking that position.

The opinion has no value whatsoever to any readers without context or contrary facts provided.

[motherflippinpicker]

Regarding the "kissing lanais" reference - feel free to run a search right here on the Talk of the Village forum for the phrase, and you'll get lots and lots of posts from people who have either bought in those neighborhoods, or considered them, or asked about them and were given lots of answers from long-time members, or seen them, or yes - heard about them from their hairdresser.

They're definitely a thing, they're not new, they are absolutely a downside in some areas where the developer made the decision to place the back wall of houses incredibly close to the back wall of other houses, with lanais in incredibly close proximity to each other.

My exaggeration and imaginative verbiage doesn't change the fact that they exist, and they can be problematic for people who enjoy peace and quiet on their lanais, in areas where lanais are placed incredibly close to each other.

Kind of leap frogging off the lanai comment, am I correct that we should avoid southern facing lanais, due to excessive heat?

Thank you for your insight. I've very much appreciated it.

[rustyp]

The beauty of TV is like no other. We currently live in a very pretty gated community on the Treasure Coast.



Kind of leap frogging off the lanai comment, am I correct that we should avoid southern facing lanais, due to excessive heat?

Thank you for your insight. I've very much appreciated it.

Yes. Here in TV we share the same sun as Treasure Coast. Difference is we have no afternoon sea breeze. If you are moving here year round coming from the coast you should rent here in August to make a fair comparison.

[motherflippinpicker]

Yes. Here in TV we share the same sun as Treasure Coast. Difference is we have no afternoon sea breeze. If you are moving here year round coming from the coast you should rent here in August to make a fair comparison.

We've stayed there several times in the summer months and it's very hot! We still love it!

[Bogie Shooter]

We've stayed there several times in the summer months and it's very hot! We still love it!

When you stayed, which direction did the lanai face?

[motherflippinpicker]

When you stayed, which direction did the lanai face?

We stayed with friends and they do not have a lanai.

[John Mayes]

So - this thread is about the Historic section.

Anything south of the Historic section - and its immediate surrounds - which would be the Spanish Springs area - is the "southern" area, in the context of this thread.

You probably knew that though.

I didn’t get that from your post. I jumped to the conclusion that you meant south of 44.

Sorry about that.

[Pairadocs]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV. Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?



Anything is always possible, after all the beautiful indoor pool at the wellness center was destroyed to expand the hospital and was never replaced. A beautiful and impressive country club with resort pool, spa, and pool tiki bar was sacrificed to make room for more revenue generating housing, the amazing wellness center that offered residents the opportunity of membership for a very affordable price to encourage "America's healthiest hometown" was the saying of the time, but that too was ended suddenly, so you can't move here thinking things will not be suddenly changed. It's not like a traditional city or town where the resident's have a great deal of control, elect a city council, a mayor, etc. However, I would not worry about a purchase on the original site across 441, it has, in my opinion, been constantly improved and renovated, and remains one of the nicest area for sure. A warning, should you happen across a certain on line site that claims to be a villages newspaper, there are people who make comments on that site about the "historic" part of the villages. It appears there a several who are the same ones who post really awful things about those villages, as if they are dangerous and almost full of drifters and criminals, be very careful about believing their posts... very suspicious. A LOT of brand new homes going up on that side, beautiful settings.

[JMintzer]

Regarding the "kissing lanais" reference - feel free to run a search right here on the Talk of the Village forum for the phrase, and you'll get lots and lots of posts from people who have either bought in those neighborhoods, or considered them, or asked about them and were given lots of answers from long-time members, or seen them, or yes - heard about them from their hairdresser.

They're definitely a thing, they're not new, they are absolutely a downside in some areas where the developer made the decision to place the back wall of houses incredibly close to the back wall of other houses, with lanais in incredibly close proximity to each other.

My exaggeration and imaginative verbiage doesn't change the fact that they exist, and they can be problematic for people who enjoy peace and quiet on their lanais, in areas where lanais are placed incredibly close to each other.

No one said they don't exist. It was simply pointed out that most of your rant about them was factually incorrect...

Except the part about Mable's saggy boobs... Sorry you had to see that...

https://gifdb.com/images/high/gladys-kravitz-498-x-373-gif-tfa9x7gl2ljxzhqv.gif

[motherflippinpicker]

Anything is always possible, after all the beautiful indoor pool at the wellness center was destroyed to expand the hospital and was never replaced. A beautiful and impressive country club with resort pool, spa, and pool tiki bar was sacrificed to make room for more revenue generating housing, the amazing wellness center that offered residents the opportunity of membership for a very affordable price to encourage "America's healthiest hometown" was the saying of the time, but that too was ended suddenly, so you can't move here thinking things will not be suddenly changed. It's not like a traditional city or town where the resident's have a great deal of control, elect a city council, a mayor, etc. However, I would not worry about a purchase on the original site across 441, it has, in my opinion, been constantly improved and renovated, and remains one of the nicest area for sure. A warning, should you happen across a certain on line site that claims to be a villages newspaper, there are people who make comments on that site about the "historic" part of the villages. It appears there a several who are the same ones who post really awful things about those villages, as if they are dangerous and almost full of drifters and criminals, be very careful about believing their posts... very suspicious. A LOT of brand new homes going up on that side, beautiful settings.

Thank you. I very much appreciate all your words and insight and thank you for putting my mind at ease about the negativity. We've only seen and experienced wonderful things and are very excited about moving.

[joshgun]

Not for five years.

[MrChip72]

I've heard rumors since I moved here that the developer is long term planning to sell off the mobile home park section. I'm sure that a majority of people in the rest of TV wouldn't mind that happening. You don't see new parts of TV with dilapidated trailers and car ports and it would just make TV more consistent.

[Bogie Shooter]

I've heard rumors since I moved here that the developer is long term planning to sell off the mobile home park section. I'm sure that a majority of people in the rest of TV wouldn't mind that happening. You don't see new parts of TV with dilapidated trailers and car ports and it would just make TV more consistent.

Really , majority.
I cannot post what I would really like to tell you!

[kansasr]

Really , majority.
I cannot post what I would really like to tell you!

Yeah, but wouldn’t you like to risk Talk of the Villages jail for a bit, just for this one!

[Shipping up to Boston]

I've heard rumors since I moved here that the developer is long term planning to sell off the mobile home park section. I'm sure that a majority of people in the rest of TV wouldn't mind that happening. You don't see new parts of TV with dilapidated trailers and car ports and it would just make TV more consistent.

Ahh yes, more unscientific polling!
Slow news day on ToTV...smh

[Jayhawk]

I've heard rumors since I moved here that the developer is long term planning to sell off the mobile home park section. I'm sure that a majority of people in the rest of TV wouldn't mind that happening. You don't see new parts of TV with dilapidated trailers and car ports and it would just make TV more consistent.

What exactly would the Developer be selling, since every last property is owned by a person who is NOT the Developer? And, it is not a trailer park. It is a residential development consisting mostly of Manufactured homes which is very common in Florida. There is very much a pride of ownership vibe in the area, I can't tell if this is a troll post or simply an ignorant one.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

What exactly would the Developer be selling, since every last property is owned by a person who is NOT the Developer? And, it is not a trailer park. It is a residential development consisting mostly of Manufactured homes which is very common in Florida. There is very much a pride of ownership vibe in the area, I can't tell if this is a troll post or simply an ignorant one.I would say both , but no matter troll or ignorant just a very bad post

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I've heard rumors since I moved here that the developer is long term planning to sell off the mobile home park section. I'm sure that a majority of people in the rest of TV wouldn't mind that happening. You don't see new parts of TV with dilapidated trailers and car ports and it would just make TV more consistent.

I've heard rumors that some people make up rumors because they're upset about a lack in their own lives, and need to create problems that don't exist, so they don't feel quite as miserable about themselves.

Just something I've heard, so maybe you've heard some of those made-up rumors and think they might be true.

Meanwhile, there aren't dilapidated trailers in the Historic section. The Developer can't tear down our area, because the Developer doesn't own our area. The original trailer park was luxurious, even when it was a trailer park. It's even more luxurious now, and is a community of mixed homes, from manufactured homes, modular homes, wood frame homes, and block and stucco homes.

You should tell whoever you heard that rumor from that they're not only wrong, but they're lying, and probably need to eat more fiber.

[John Mayes]

I've heard rumors that some people make up rumors because they're upset about a lack in their own lives, and need to create problems that don't exist, so they don't feel quite as miserable about themselves.

Just something I've heard, so maybe you've heard some of those made-up rumors and think they might be true.

Meanwhile, there aren't dilapidated trailers in the Historic section. The Developer can't tear down our area, because the Developer doesn't own our area. The original trailer park was luxurious, even when it was a trailer park. It's even more luxurious now, and is a community of mixed homes, from manufactured homes, modular homes, wood frame homes, and block and stucco homes.

You should tell whoever you heard that rumor from that they're not only wrong, but they're lying, and probably need to eat more fiber.

Nice reply.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I've heard rumors that some people make up rumors because they're upset about a lack in their own lives, and need to create problems that don't exist, so they don't feel quite as miserable about themselves.

Just something I've heard, so maybe you've heard some of those made-up rumors and think they might be true.

Meanwhile, there aren't dilapidated trailers in the Historic section. The Developer can't tear down our area, because the Developer doesn't own our area. The original trailer park was luxurious, even when it was a trailer park. It's even more luxurious now, and is a community of mixed homes, from manufactured homes, modular homes, wood frame homes, and block and stucco homes.

You should tell whoever you heard that rumor from that they're not only wrong, but they're lying, and probably need to eat more fiber.

OBB for CDD! ;)

[Velvet]

Regarding the "kissing lanais" reference - feel free to run a search right here on the Talk of the Village forum for the phrase, and you'll get lots and lots of posts from people who have either bought in those neighborhoods, or considered them, or asked about them and were given lots of answers from long-time members, or seen them, or yes - heard about them from their hairdresser.

They're definitely a thing, they're not new, they are absolutely a downside in some areas where the developer made the decision to place the back wall of houses incredibly close to the back wall of other houses, with lanais in incredibly close proximity to each other.

My exaggeration and imaginative verbiage doesn't change the fact that they exist, and they can be problematic for people who enjoy peace and quiet on their lanais, in areas where lanais are placed incredibly close to each other.

“Kissing lanais” are one reason you may want to know your neighbors before you buy. My aunt like them because she was good friends with her neighbors. As they grew old, one call would get the other out to help. (Yes, she could have used the phone.) She liked it when her neighbors were home, she liked to hear their voices, they were her friends. I understand that not everyone is like that.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

“Kissing lanais” are one reason you may want to know your neighbors before you buy. My aunt like them because she was good friends with her neighbors. As they grew old, one call would get the other out to help. (Yes, she could have used the phone.) She liked it when her neighbors were home, she liked to hear their voices, they were her friends. I understand that not everyone is like that.

It's great, til one of them relocates. To be with other family, to downsize, to upsize, to a nursing home, etc. etc. And then they get stuck with the droopy-boobed lady and her stogie-smoking husband.

But - people like courtyard villas so they don't have to deal with their neighbors. I originally wanted the same kind of privacy til I stayed in one and saw how claustrophobic it is. Very glad I'm where I am now. Space between neighbors, but close enough we can socialize without even leaving our own property.

[justjim]

You can choose your house but not your neighbors. That said, our experience in TV has been excellent as far as neighbors. OP, the so called historical area of TV will not only survive but will thrive just as it has in the past. It’s different from most manufacture home communities in Florida in that residents not only own their home but also own the lot the home sits on.

[MightyDog]

It's great, til one of them relocates. To be with other family, to downsize, to upsize, to a nursing home, etc. etc. And then they get stuck with the droopy-boobed lady and her stogie-smoking husband.

But - people like courtyard villas so they don't have to deal with their neighbors. I originally wanted the same kind of privacy til I stayed in one and saw how claustrophobic it is. Very glad I'm where I am now. Space between neighbors, but close enough we can socialize without even leaving our own property.
I'm the same as you in that I find both PV's and CYV's to be too claustrophobic for my taste. They'd be okay for seasonal living but, full time? Not for me.

I like lots of windows and a view of the neighborhood from inside my house as well as a bit of grassy yard space outside the house. If you don't want to break the bank on buy price that does leave for limited options in TV.

[ohiosbestus]

Here is your immediate answer the Villages and going to spend millions of dollar building a new recreation center across from the main post office in the Historical Villages. There are several homes listed by the Villages Realtors. You can download the Villages website on your phone and can look at properties for sale there. There are 3 villages on this area. They are Orange Blossom, Silver Lake, and Country Club Hills,my favorite. If you need more information send me a private message and I will be glad to help you or show you the properties on my phone if you are unable to download the Villages site.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Here is your immediate answer the Villages and going to spend millions of dollar building a new recreation center across from the main post office in the Historical Villages. There are several homes listed by the Villages Realtors. You can download the Villages website on your phone and can look at properties for sale there. There are 3 villages on this area. They are Orange Blossom, Silver Lake, and Country Club Hills,my favorite. If you need more information send me a private message and I will be glad to help you or show you the properties on my phone if you are unable to download the Villages site.

There is zero need to download anything.

Anyone can access the Villages Homefinder, which is a website, not an app. Here's the URL:
Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/?new&preowned&homesites&status&lng=-81.98019326735313&lat=28.86591360951103&lvl=1)

Anyone can also access any of the Multiple Listing Service websites, such as realtor.com and zillow.com

There's no reason or need to send a private message to a stranger through an internet forum, to find homes available for sale in The Villages.

[Shipping up to Boston]

:boom:There is zero need to download anything.

Anyone can access the Villages Homefinder, which is a website, not an app. Here's the URL:
Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/?new&preowned&homesites&status&lng=-81.98019326735313&lat=28.86591360951103&lvl=1)

Anyone can also access any of the Multiple Listing Service websites, such as realtor.com and zillow.com

There's no reason or need to send a private message to a stranger through an internet forum, to find homes available for sale in The Villages.

:boom:

[Velvet]

You can choose your house but not your neighbors. That said, our experience in TV has been excellent as far as neighbors. OP, the so called historical area of TV will not only survive but will thrive just as it has in the past. It’s different from most manufacture home communities in Florida in that residents not only own their home but also own the lot the home sits on.

To a certain extent you can chose your neighbors, maybe not all of them, some will move away but not the whole street. I chose on the basis of who I would be among, just like a club, and boy, I can tell you. My neighbors literally saved my life, with their outreach and care. But I knew they were like that, I investigated, before I bought. It was a lot more important to me as compared to whether the bedroom had a closet, or was the lanai facing West.

[Shipping up to Boston]

To a certain extent you can chose your neighbors, maybe not all of them, some will move away but not the whole street. I chose on the basis of who I would be among, just like a club, and boy, I can tell you. My neighbors literally saved my life, with their outreach and care. But I knew they were like that, I investigated, before I bought.

I appreciate your testimonial
Agree that some due diligence is a no brainer. But you’re not gonna stake out a neighborhood (maybe you did) and some neighbors keep different hours, are rentals, or are split year residents. All that said, it only takes one to upset the chemistry. If it was a perfect science, there wouldn’t be shows like ‘Neighborhood Wars’!

[Velvet]

What I did was go tor the pool where they hang out. Talk. Walk the street several times, talk to the walkers anybody outside. Get to know them a bit, their values, their interest, their activities etc. see if I fit in. Oh yes, there were no “neighborhood wars” that I knew about. 5 years after I bought, a couple from another Village were they were probably run out of, bought on the street. They were gently coaxed and integrated, took a year but everything is fine now.

[Shipping up to Boston]

What I did was go tor the pool where they hang out. Talk. Walk the street several times, talk to the walkers anybody outside. Get to know them a bit, their values, their interest, their activities etc. see if I fit in.

Kinda like a politician!

Just kidding....take it easy! ;)

[Gatorfan1]

Hello,

Our home sold and we are finally moving to TV. To say we are excited is an understatement. We are house shopping this weekend.

My husband and I very much love the original area for its hills, large yards, mature landscaping and the beautiful pool and we love the style of the well maintained manufactured homes, as they are all different. My concern is that this area will eventually be phased out by TV.

Does anyone know if this has ever been a concern?

Lot of people live in original area. Spanish Springs is always busy. Don’t think it is going anywhere