Sumter County Sherif on MMP

[Papa_lecki]

I followed a Sumter County Sherif, is a Sheriff Golf Car, with Red and Blue lights, on the MMP on Buena Vista from Eisenhower, around the gate, around the back of Mangrove, up BV, and under Buena Vista and he continued north.

Golf Car was well marked as a Sheriff’s vehicle - sherif inside had the green uniform on.

[shaw8700@outlook.com]

We saw him too - gave him a thumbs up!

[Topspinmo]

Need to be unmarked cart if he wants to ticket anyone. I can’t go mile on MMP without seeing several offending ticketing citations.

[Papa_lecki]

They will get plenty of drunk drivers and get you when you pass another cart.

[dhdallas]

I followed a Sumter County Sherif, is a Sheriff Golf Car, with Red and Blue lights, on the MMP on Buena Vista from Eisenhower, around the gate, around the back of Mangrove, up BV, and under Buena Vista and he continued north.

Golf Car was well marked as a Sheriff’s vehicle - sherif inside had the green uniform on.

And your point is??? They only have legal jurisdiction on the parts of the MMP which are physically part of a public roadway. They CANNOT legally enforce golf cart speed limits or stop sign actions on any MMP on TV property per Section 316.006, Florida Statutes

In order to be allowed to enforce traffic rules on TV property a written agreement must be signed between the law enforcement agency and TV. There is no such agreement.

[Altavia]

https://youtu.be/9s2QMWODhAU?si=koYpGM8lMDIQSqgx

https://youtu.be/KLFCDQrc6Go?si=zal3wRBva-7Uwc4v

[MrChip72]

What's the top speed on those? Asking for a friend.

[Altavia]

And your point is??? They only have legal jurisdiction on the parts of the MMP which are physically part of a public roadway. They CANNOT legally enforce golf cart speed limits or stop sign actions on any MMP on TV property per Section 316.006, Florida Statutes

In order to be allowed to enforce traffic rules on TV property a written agreement must be signed between the law enforcement agency and TV. There is no such agreement.

So is it just a public relations thing or?

[Normal]

There have been a lot of golf car accidents and some of them have been quite serious. If the police presence even saves one life, it is worth it.

[Dotneko]

And your point is??? They only have legal jurisdiction on the parts of the MMP which are physically part of a public roadway. They CANNOT legally enforce golf cart speed limits or stop sign actions on any MMP on TV property per Section 316.006, Florida Statutes

In order to be allowed to enforce traffic rules on TV property a written agreement must be signed between the law enforcement agency and TV. There is no such agreement.

Is any agreement required to be public knowledge? How do you know the Villages hasnt signed one? Who actually owns the MMPs?

[Papa_lecki]

And your point is??? They only have legal jurisdiction on the parts of the MMP which are physically part of a public roadway. They CANNOT legally enforce golf cart speed limits or stop sign actions on any MMP on TV property per Section 316.006, Florida Statutes

In order to be allowed to enforce traffic rules on TV property a written agreement must be signed between the law enforcement agency and TV. There is no such agreement.

I don’t need a point, just that I saw a sheriff’s cart on the MMP. He didn’t turn to go onto Hillsborugh Trail, stayed north on the MMP.

The cart had to cost more than $20k, that is one heck of a PR expenditure.

[Normal]

I don’t need a point, just that I saw a sheriff’s cart on the MMP. He didn’t turn to go onto Hillsborugh Trail, stayed north on the MMP.

The cart had to cost more than $20k, that is one heck of a PR expenditure.

You ain’t seen nothing yet till you are a resident of the Villages and Wildwood. Complete with 50 thousand dollar per space parking decks all because of the free taxpayer money.

[Papa_lecki]

Here’s a YouTube video of the cart

https://youtu.be/KLFCDQrc6Go?si=k-R46StnDh86DSZY

[UsuallyLurking]

North of 466 MMPs are owned by the individual districts. I believe that south of 466 that is the same; the difference *may* be that they are maintained by PWAC as part of common infrastructure. I have heard from Capt. Siemer (sp?), SCSO commander in The Villages area, that they cannot enforce traffic violations on the MMPs (speeding) as they are not public roads. The can enforce not stopping at a stop sign that crosses a public road, and they can enforce DUI violations anywhere.

[tophcfa]

And your point is??? They only have legal jurisdiction on the parts of the MMP which are physically part of a public roadway. They CANNOT legally enforce golf cart speed limits or stop sign actions on any MMP on TV property per Section 316.006, Florida Statutes

In order to be allowed to enforce traffic rules on TV property a written agreement must be signed between the law enforcement agency and TV. There is no such agreement.

No worries, even if they did try to pull you over all you gotta do is keep driving until their electric cart runs out of juice : )

[Altavia]

I think it's kind of cool, and maybe adds something to the "charm" of The Villages.

It would be a hit at an event at the schools in Middleton.

We are fortunate to have excellent and highly professional law enforcement personnel here.

[MrFlorida]

I've seen him down at the square at night.

[Papa_lecki]

North of 466 MMPs are owned by the individual districts. I believe that south of 466 that is the same; the difference *may* be that they are maintained by PWAC as part of common infrastructure. I have heard from Capt. Siemer (sp?), SCSO commander in The Villages area, that they cannot enforce traffic violations on the MMPs (speeding) as they are not public roads. The can enforce not stopping at a stop sign that crosses a public road, and they can enforce DUI violations anywhere.

I would guess those are the violations they are cracking down on. Also, if the Sheriff is going 20 MPH, I don’t think anyone is passing him doing 25MPH, whether they can issue a citation or not.

[Topspinmo]

Is any agreement required to be public knowledge? How do you know the Villages hasnt signed one? Who actually owns the MMPs?

The district that you’re in owns MMPs. But that’s only cost of repairs added to maintenance fees. As far as authority probably developers puppet organizations.

[merrymini]

My electric cart can to 70 miles before running low on a charge and not stink up my house or tunnels. Your bias is showing.

[frayedends]

I realize they can't cite for speeding on MMP, but if the cart is going over 25 can't they cite for not having it registered as a low speed vehicle?

[bowlingal]

excellent!! nice to know the sheriffs are out there to nail golf cart speeders!

[dewilson58]

I realize they can't cite for speeding on MMP, but if the cart is going over 25 can't they cite for not having it registered as a low speed vehicle?

when u cross a road

[MikeN]

These are not private roads. They are owned and maintained by the counties

[Laker14]

I realize they can't cite for speeding on MMP, but if the cart is going over 25 can't they cite for not having it registered as a low speed vehicle?

the legal threshold for non-street legal carts is 19.9 mph, not 25mph.

[Normal]

the legal threshold for non-street legal carts is 19.9 mph, not 25mph.

Yes, LSVs are different than golf carts they are:
Section 320.01(41), Florida Statutes, defines LSVs as “any four-wheeled vehicle whose top speed is greater than 20 miles per hour, but not greater than 25 miles per hour.” LSVs must be registered, titled and insured with personal injury protection (PIP) and property damage liability (PDL) insurance. Any person operating an LSV must have a valid driver license in their immediate possession.

If a golf cart is traveling faster than 20 mph, it is technically an LSV and must have all LSV documents readily available. That said though, a golf cart going down hill with the wind behind its back could exceed the speed of 20 mph. A citation officer would be challenged in court if conditions existed to warrant a chance of going in the 20-25 mph window on a vehicle that was normally traveling within the speed limit.

However, it would be difficult to challenge a citation where a cart exceeded the speed on a flat surface or crossed a solid white line. Citation issuing officers would likely already have adjusted to what they can or cannot do.

[RRGuyNJ]

So is it just a public relations thing or?

He probably had to get from Point A to Point B and that was the most eeficient way to go.

[mike234]

next comes registering or numbering your cart. and you will pay for it too....its coming

[frayedends]

the legal threshold for non-street legal carts is 19.9 mph, not 25mph.

Yeah not sure why I thought it was 25. Just read up on it and I think I finally have it all figured out. I just recall a thread where they said they got ticketed for going over 25 and fined for not registering it. I'm betting the cops don't bother if you are hitting 22. But 25 would be easily over by enough where the driver wouldn't win in court.

When I had a rental home before I bought in the Villages, and I was totally unaware of the speed rules, the cart with the house went 27 and I was up everyone's ass wondering why they were going so slow. :D. I won't do that again.

[Michael 61]

All I know, is that I welcome their presence on the paths.

[Indydealmaker]

And your point is??? They only have legal jurisdiction on the parts of the MMP which are physically part of a public roadway. They CANNOT legally enforce golf cart speed limits or stop sign actions on any MMP on TV property per Section 316.006, Florida Statutes

In order to be allowed to enforce traffic rules on TV property a written agreement must be signed between the law enforcement agency and TV. There is no such agreement.

They can if you are a danger to others. If you are driving an unregistered vehicle (modified to exceed 20 mph).

[Normal]

next comes registering or numbering your cart. and you will pay for it too....its coming

Maybe, but they haven’t done that with bicycles yet.

It would need to be a statewide law. 66 other counties don’t have the same problem as Sumter with golf carts.

[Altavia]

They can if you are a danger to others. If you are driving an unregistered vehicle (modified to exceed 20 mph).


Traffic offenses arenot a crime so a traffic stop on private property for the express purpose of issuing a citation would be dismissed.

Officers may investigate crimes on private property. That means an officer can pull over someone who is suspected of DUI on private property because DUI is a crime.

[SHIBUMI]

Civilians on Patrol for speeders on multi modal pathways.... I have seen their posts here...


I followed a Sumter County Sherif, is a Sheriff Golf Car, with Red and Blue lights, on the MMP on Buena Vista from Eisenhower, around the gate, around the back of Mangrove, up BV, and under Buena Vista and he continued north.

Golf Car was well marked as a Sheriff’s vehicle - sherif inside had the green uniform on.

[NoMo50]

These are not private roads. They are owned and maintained by the counties

Not correct. The MMPs are private property, and neither the counties nor cities (Wildwood) have any maintenance/ownership responsibilities.

[maistocars]

A $25k expenditure - interesting that they think it is better to have a patrol person taken off the dangerous roads where a lot more infractions, accidents, and fatalities occur than for a PR stunt like this.

[onfire]

Not correct. The MMPs are private property, and neither the counties nor cities (Wildwood) have any maintenance/ownership responsibilities.

How are they private when they are owned by the CDD's which are public entities?

[Normal]

Traffic offenses arenot a crime so a traffic stop on private property for the express purpose of issuing a citation would be dismissed.

Officers may investigate crimes on private property. That means an officer can pull over someone who is suspected of DUI on private property because DUI is a crime.

Just like a parking lot.

[Normal]

How are they private when they are owned by the CDD's which are public entities?

The CDD would have to issue the citation? That will never happen. They can’t enforce the existing rules, which are not laws.

[Robojo]

My electric cart can to 70 miles before running low on a charge and not stink up my house or tunnels. Your bias is showing.

stinky gas carts never blow up the garage.

[Robojo]

Traffic offenses arenot a crime so a traffic stop on private property for the express purpose of issuing a citation would be dismissed.

Officers may investigate crimes on private property. That means an officer can pull over someone who is suspected of DUI on private property because DUI is a crime.

I'm not so sure about that. If I have a 35 acre farm and I'm driving in circles on my farm and I'm drinking there's not d*** thing anyone can do about it so no it's not illegal to drink and drive on private property.

[onfire]

The CDD would have to issue the citation? That will never happen. They can’t enforce the existing rules, which are not laws.

According to Florida Statutes a CDD "may not exercise any police power, but may contract with the appropriate local general-purpose government agencies for an increased level of such services within the district boundaries".

So it seems if no agreement exists then anything goes on the MMP's.

[Indydealmaker]

I realize they can't cite for speeding on MMP, but if the cart is going over 25 can't they cite for not having it registered as a low speed vehicle?

Yes, they can and will. However, a street legal cannot exceed 24 mph. A golf cart is restricted to 20 mph.

[Indydealmaker]

Traffic offenses arenot a crime so a traffic stop on private property for the express purpose of issuing a citation would be dismissed.

Officers may investigate crimes on private property. That means an officer can pull over someone who is suspected of DUI on private property because DUI is a crime.

Speeding is not the citation. Driving an illegal unregistered vehicle is a crime. Illegally modified golf carts and street legals constitutes the crime.

[Normal]

Speeding is not the citation. Driving an illegal unregistered vehicle is a crime. Illegally modified golf carts and street legals constitutes the crime.

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“After passing the golf cart, the vehicle achieved a speed of 25 mph within the golf cart lane.“

[gorillarick]

The speed limit for everything on the MMP is 20 mph. No signs posted means 20 in TV.

To pass (cart, bike, or pedestrian) there must be a minimum of 3 feet clearance. Florida Law applies.

btw: when the MMP splits (one way), there is not room to pass a bike. Bikes cannot be expected to leave the path.
Be patient. Your beer will not get hot by being delayed by 15 seconds.

[Bill14564]

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“After passing the golf cart, the vehicle achieved a speed of 25 mph within the golf cart lane.“

That was the reason for the stop but it was not speeding.

The article goes on to say the individual was arrested for driving without a license and another article implied there might have been a ticket for operating a registered LSV in the diamond lane.

[Bill14564]

The speed limit for everything on the MMP is 20 mph. No signs posted means 20 in TV.

To pass (cart, bike, or pedestrian) there must be a minimum of 3 feet clearance. Florida Law applies.

btw: when the MMP splits (one way), there is not room to pass a bike. Bikes cannot be expected to leave the path.
Be patient. Your beer will not get hot by being delayed by 15 seconds.

20 mph applies to public roads. I do not recall seeing that it applies to the MMPs.

Of course, since golf carts are not capable of exceeding 20mph one could consider it an effective speed limit. But, since there is no enforcement on the MMP there is no actual limit on the MMPs.

The diamond lanes are not MMPs. Most (all?) are on public roads so those laws apply.

I have seen the statute that requires giving bicycles three feet of space when passing. Please provide the citation of the Florida law that requires the same for golf carts or pedestrians.

[Shipping up to Boston]

According to Florida Statutes a CDD "may not exercise any police power, but may contract with the appropriate local general-purpose government agencies for an increased level of such services within the district boundaries".

So it seems if no agreement exists then anything goes on the MMP's.

So when it’s convenient for the CDD....got it.

I’m assuming that exercising such a contract would generate an invoice for said ‘increased’ services from those agencies....that would be ultimately paid for by District residents? (In absence of the FL Statutes)

[JMintzer]

My electric cart can to 70 miles before running low on a charge and not stink up my house or tunnels. Your bias is showing.

As is yours...

[Altavia]

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“After passing the golf cart, the vehicle achieved a speed of 25 mph within the golf cart lane.“

"Online records show since then, the charge was reduced and the case transferred to another court."

[Altavia]

I'm not so sure about that. If I have a 35 acre farm and I'm driving in circles on my farm and I'm drinking there's not d*** thing anyone can do about it so no it's not illegal to drink and drive on private property.

You are at a minimum putting first responders at risk in the event something bad happens and a (dangerous) rescue is required.

Florida law defines DUI broadly, so it does not matter where you drive under the influence. It’s against the law.

The statute says that no type of vehicle may be operated by anyone who is under the influence of alcohol or drugs anywhere “within this state,” including private property.

[Normal]

That was the reason for the stop but it was not speeding.

The article goes on to say the individual was arrested for driving without a license and another article implied there might have been a ticket for operating a registered LSV in the diamond lane.

Wish I could have been the fly on the wall to watch the tap dance he did for the officer.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Wish I could have been the fly on the wall to watch the tap dance he did for the officer.

Anything remotely entertaining will eventually end up on YouTube by the agency. So forget the fly costume...just log in! ;)

[Phil D]

When you have to cross a Driveway he can pull you over if you have been drinking you most likely will be taking a ride with the Sheriff to Bushell,look it up.

[bmcgowan13]

I'm not so sure about that. If I have a 35 acre farm and I'm driving in circles on my farm and I'm drinking there's not d*** thing anyone can do about it so no it's not illegal to drink and drive on private property.

316.193 Driving under the influence; penalties.—
(1) A person is guilty of the offense of driving under the influence and is subject to punishment as provided in subsection (2) if the person is driving or in actual physical control of a vehicle within this state and:

Splitting hairs but I always thought driving anywhere "in the state" under the influence was illegal. If you are on your own property and there is an accident serious enough to have FHP investigate you could be charged with DWI--anywhere in the state of Florida--including private property that is open to the public (mall parking lot). This applies to DWI and (I thought) suspended licenses and reckless operation.

Registration violation require operation on roads...
320.02 Registration required; application for registration; forms.—
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, every owner or person in charge of a motor vehicle that is operated or driven on the roads of this state shall register the vehicle in this state.


Speed requires a public roadway...
316.183 Unlawful speed.—
(1) No person shall drive a vehicle on a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing. In every event, speed shall be controlled as may be necessary to avoid colliding with any person, vehicle, or other conveyance or object on or entering the highway in compliance with legal requirements and the duty of all persons to use due care.
(2) On all streets or highways, the maximum speed limits for all vehicles must be 30 miles per hour in business or residence districts, and 55 miles per hour at any time at all other locations. However, with respect to a residence district, a coun...

Can You Be Arrested for DUI on Private Property in Florida? - (https://carlsonmeissner.com/blog/dui-private-property/#:~:text=Florida%20law%20defines%20DUI%20broadly,s tate%2C”%20including%20private%20property).

If you crash your golf cart on a MMP I think local officials could charge you with DUI....even though the MPP may not be a public way...

[Shipping up to Boston]

316.193 Driving under the influence; penalties.—
(1) A person is guilty of the offense of driving under the influence and is subject to punishment as provided in subsection (2) if the person is driving or in actual physical control of a vehicle within this state and:

Splitting hairs but I always thought driving anywhere "in the state" under the influence was illegal. If you are on your own property and there is an accident serious enough to have FHP investigate you could be charged with DWI--anywhere in the state of Florida--including private property that is open to the public (mall parking lot). This applies to DWI and (I thought) suspended licenses and reckless operation.

Registration violation require operation on roads...
320.02 Registration required; application for registration; forms.—
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, every owner or person in charge of a motor vehicle that is operated or driven on the roads of this state shall register the vehicle in this state.


Speed requires a public roadway...
316.183 Unlawful speed.—
(1) No person shall drive a vehicle on a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing. In every event, speed shall be controlled as may be necessary to avoid colliding with any person, vehicle, or other conveyance or object on or entering the highway in compliance with legal requirements and the duty of all persons to use due care.
(2) On all streets or highways, the maximum speed limits for all vehicles must be 30 miles per hour in business or residence districts, and 55 miles per hour at any time at all other locations. However, with respect to a residence district, a coun...

Can You Be Arrested for DUI on Private Property in Florida? - (https://carlsonmeissner.com/blog/dui-private-property/#:~:text=Florida%20law%20defines%20DUI%20broadly,s tate%2C”%20including%20private%20property).

If you crash your golf cart on a MMP I think local officials could charge you with DUI....even though the MPP may not be a public way...

The key here is probable cause. The OP you referenced only mentions having a drink on a machine....on a 35 acre private property. No mention of being drunk. No LEO is going to cross that boundary over a 12 ounce beverage while exercising a household chore!

[Blueblaze]

Well, they may not be willing to get involved in a home invasion and burglary, but at least they're finally enforcing that all-important golf cart speed limit on non-public, non-county public roads! We sure can't have crazies zooming along at 23-1/2 with broken governor on their 20mph golf cart! You gotta draw a line somewhere!

[BobnBev]

next comes registering or numbering your cart. and you will pay for it too....its coming

Long overdue.

[Altavia]

The key here is probable cause. The OP you referenced only mentions having a drink on a machine....on a 35 acre private property. No mention of being drunk. No LEO is going to cross that boundary over a 12 ounce beverage while exercising a household chore!

What part is "The statute says that no type of vehicle may be operated by anyone who is under the influence of alcohol or drugs anywhere “within this state,” including private property." not clear?

So a grandchild is on a ATV zooming sounds the property while Grandpa is enjoying a cold one. The ATV rolls on the side of a hill and kills the child.

An "accident" is now a DUI involuntary homicide.

[Normal]

What part is "The statute says that no type of vehicle may be operated by anyone who is under the influence of alcohol or drugs anywhere “within this state,” including private property." not clear?

So a grandchild is on a ATV zooming sounds the property while Grandpa is enjoying a cold one. The ATV rolls on the side of a hill and kills the child.

An "accident" is now a DUI involuntary homicide.

There goes mowing the lawn on a John Deere and cracking a cold brew.

[Shipping up to Boston]

What part is "The statute says that no type of vehicle may be operated by anyone who is under the influence of alcohol or drugs anywhere “within this state,” including private property." not clear?

So a grandchild is on a ATV zooming sounds the property while Grandpa is enjoying a cold one. The ATV rolls on the side of a hill and kills the child.

An "accident" is now a DUI involuntary homicide.

Hypotheticals are rarely effective here. Maybe show some case law, FL specific....using the OP post as a reference point. Pretty benign stuff!

[bmcgowan13]

Hypotheticals are rarely effective here. Maybe show some case law, FL specific....using the OP post as a reference point. Pretty benign stuff!

Google Zink v State of Florida So 2d 1984

Zink recognized you can be charged with DWI even on private property--operation does not have to be a public roadway or highway. The court believes the DWI statute was written to control the condition of the operator--not the location of the offense.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Google Zink v State of Florida So 2d 1984

Zink recognized you can be charged with DWI even on private property--operation does not have to be a public roadway or highway. The court believes the DWI statute was written to control the condition of the operator--not the location of the offense.

You do know we’re talking about an individual, on a 35 acre private property having a beer, right? Not drunk, not rising to a DUI. Yes, that was the context. All the other tentacles that grew out of the OP post is typical of ToTV sensationalism. No mention of grandchildren whizzing around on an ATV while grandpa operates a machine drunk and involuntary homicides. I’m sure you can dig deeper and find a case where a Karen or Darren summons law enforcement to address a neighbor riding on his Toro engaging in a chore while enjoying a cold beverage....and finds probable cause to enter private property to arrest said land owner. Can’t wait. And we wonder why we have a historic shortage of LEO in this country! Smh

[bsloan1960]

next comes registering or numbering your cart. and you will pay for it too....its coming
And well it should. It's time outrageous behaviors can be reported and punished.

[biker1]

Where will the requirement come from? State, County, or CDDs? I doubt any of those entities are interested.

next comes registering or numbering your cart. and you will pay for it too....its coming

[nn0wheremann]

North of 466 MMPs are owned by the individual districts. I believe that south of 466 that is the same; the difference *may* be that they are maintained by PWAC as part of common infrastructure. I have heard from Capt. Siemer (sp?), SCSO commander in The Villages area, that they cannot enforce traffic violations on the MMPs (speeding) as they are not public roads. The can enforce not stopping at a stop sign that crosses a public road, and they can enforce DUI violations anywhere.
AFIK when your cart traverses a public road they can ticket you for having an unlicensed LSV if they have observed you traveling faster than 20 MPH on the private MMP. They also ticket you for equipment violations if your cart does not have working LSV equipment such as wipers, hydraulic brakes, proper tires etc., unless you are in Marion County where all the streets are owned by the residents and maintained by CDD4. SO SLOW DOWN.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Where will the requirement come from? State, County, or CDDs? I doubt any of those entities are interested.

My guess, whoever thinks it will generate the most revenue.... with little to no enforcement effort

[biker1]

Hydraulic brakes ? Nope.

AFIK when your cart traverses a public road they can ticket you for having an unlicensed LSV if they have observed you traveling faster than 20 MPH on the private MMP. They also ticket you for equipment violations if your cart does not have working LSV equipment such as wipers, hydraulic brakes, proper tires etc., unless you are in Marion County where all the streets are owned by the residents and maintained by CDD4. SO SLOW DOWN.

[dewilson58]

Hydraulic brakes ? Nope.

Come on....................it's fun to make stuff up.

:jester:

[bmcgowan13]

You do know we’re talking about an individual, on a 35 acre private property having a beer, right? Not drunk, not rising to a DUI. Yes, that was the context. All the other tentacles that grew out of the OP post is typical of ToTV sensationalism. No mention of grandchildren whizzing around on an ATV while grandpa operates a machine drunk and involuntary homicides.

Apologies. You are correct. I went back and re-read the thread. The OP was about the SCSO golf cart.

Somebody hijacked the thread and we all ended up on a 35-acre farm drinking beer daring the cops to do anything about it. LOL

I should have stuck to the original author's post...

I will be more respectful to the original author in the future....

[ThirdOfFive]

Odd, how common sense goes out the window whenever golf carts and law is discussed.

Just a few points:

1: If it is illegal for law enforcement to be patrolling the MMPs, it is pretty safe to assume that they wouldn’t be.

2: An MMP can be more than those nice two-way stretches of pavement having no physical contact with a public roadway. MMPs often run ON public roadways, partitioned off from automobile traffic by a solid white line. Additionally golf carts often have access to public streets where no MMP exists. As such they’re as much required to obey the rules of the road as any other vehicle. This includes driving over the legal limit (.08).

3. Any vehicle (or pedestrian for that matter) utilizing a public roadway is responsible to do so in a lawful manner.

4. More strict, equitable enforcement of law on ALL public roadways is waaaaay overdue here in TV.

[Fenster]

I don’t need a point, just that I saw a sheriff’s cart on the MMP. He didn’t turn to go onto Hillsborugh Trail, stayed north on the MMP.

The cart had to cost more than $20k, that is one heck of a PR expenditure.
Fascinating

[JRcorvette]

I followed a Sumter County Sherif, is a Sheriff Golf Car, with Red and Blue lights, on the MMP on Buena Vista from Eisenhower, around the gate, around the back of Mangrove, up BV, and under Buena Vista and he continued north.

Golf Car was well marked as a Sheriff’s vehicle - sherif inside had the green uniform on.

The deputy who drives it is a big guy. He said it will do 38 mph with him in it.

[Bill14564]

The deputy who drives it is a big guy. He said it will do 38 mph with him in it.

Darn! SO CLOSE to having a claim of a 40mph golf cart!