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paqdkq
04-20-2024, 10:12 AM
In reading THE VILLAGES NEWS there always is an article about people being pulled over for a DUI. When asked how many drinks they have, the answer is around 2. If it takes only 2 drinks to be pulled over, maybe should consider not drinking. I know those people would not lie about how many drinks they have consumed. RIGHT.
ThirdOfFive
04-20-2024, 11:08 AM
In reading THE VILLAGES NEWS there always is an article about people being pulled over for a DUI. When asked how many drinks they have, the answer is around 2. If it takes only 2 drinks to be pulled over, maybe should consider not drinking. I know those people would not lie about how many drinks they have consumed. RIGHT.
Heh. Just as The Daily Sun is nonstop rainbows and unicorns, v i l l a g e s n e w s is all sleaze all the time. The truth content of a lot of the stories may be variable, but you can bet that if a story reflects negatively on The Villager or TV in general, v i l l a g e s. N e w s will run it.
I agree. Some people should not drink. But depending on v i l l a g e s. N e w s for the information necessary to make such a judgment might be just a bit suspect.
Velvet
04-20-2024, 11:12 AM
In reading THE VILLAGES NEWS there always is an article about people being pulled over for a DUI. When asked how many drinks they have, the answer is around 2. If it takes only 2 drinks to be pulled over, maybe should consider not drinking. I know those people would not lie about how many drinks they have consumed. RIGHT.
Or…they can only remember the last two….
Shipping up to Boston
04-20-2024, 11:54 AM
Heh. Just as The Daily Sun is nonstop rainbows and unicorns, v i l l a g e s n e w s is all sleaze all the time. The truth content of a lot of the stories may be variable, but you can bet that if a story reflects negatively on The Villager or TV in general, v i l l a g e s. N e w s will run it.
I agree. Some people should not drink. But depending on v i l l a g e s. N e w s for the information necessary to make such a judgment might be just a bit suspect.
I think you may have described most ‘news’ mediums. VN/DS crime, hoarding etc stories can be easily fact checked via public records, published police reports, CDD and the like. The fact that some in these stories are in fact Villages residents..the negative connotations are unavoidable. But guess what, it’s the same in any community in anywhere USA
Stu from NYC
04-20-2024, 01:11 PM
As the saying goes, if it bleeds it leads
Altavia
04-20-2024, 01:32 PM
Happy hour here doesn't help.
A standard drink is 12 ounces of beer or 4 oz. of wine or 1.5 ounce shot of 80 proof liquor (40% ethanol).
Every standard drink that a 140 pound woman consumes will raise her BAC .032. So, 3 drinks x .032 puts her at .96, which is over the legal DUI limit of .08 for those 21 and older.
Every standard drink that a 180 male consumes will raise his BAC .02. Four standard drinks would put him right at .08.
https://health.arizona.edu/sites/default/files/How%20Many%20Drinks%20Will%20Get%20You%20To%20The% 20.08%20Limit%20Or%20Above.pdf
To stay safer when drinking alcohol, it’s recommended that women limit themselves to one standard drink an hour and men limit drinks to one or two drinks per hour.
With moderate drinking, you likely will have better times, better memories, and fewer regrets.
frayedends
04-20-2024, 01:34 PM
People stupidly think admitting drinking but not drinking a lot will gain them leniency. This is an incorrect assumption. If an officer asks if you’ve been drinking he has already determined that you’ve been drinking. The only correct answer to this question is “I exercise my right to remain silent.” Then they should refuse a field sobriety test and refuse a breathalyzer. Of course if they are drunk enough to be impaired they don’t always make these correct decisions.
vintageogauge
04-20-2024, 01:37 PM
Happy hour here doesn't help.
A standard drink is 12 ounces of beer or 4 oz. of wine or 1 ounce shot of 80 proof liquor (40% ethanol).
Every standard drink that a 140 pound woman consumes will raise her BAC .032. So, 3 drinks x .032 puts her at .96, which is over the legal DUI limit of .08 for those 21 and older.
Every standard drink that a 180 male consumes will raise his BAC .02. Four standard drinks would put him right at .08.
https://health.arizona.edu/sites/default/files/How%20Many%20Drinks%20Will%20Get%20You%20To%20The% 20.08%20Limit%20Or%20Above.pdf
To stay safer when drinking alcohol, it’s recommended that women limit themselves to one standard drink an hour and men limit drinks to one or two drinks per hour.
With moderate drinking, you likely will have better times, better memories, and fewer regrets.
Wrong, it's 1-1/2 Ounce of 80 proof liquor not 1 ounce.
vintageogauge
04-20-2024, 01:46 PM
There were 129 DUI's in Sumter County last year and 29 of them were in Wildwood.
Altavia
04-20-2024, 01:47 PM
Wrong, it's 1-1/2 Ounce of 80 proof liquor not 1 ounce.
This source agrees so I corrected...
How Many Drinks Is BAC 0.08 for a Man? Alcohol Level Chart (https://www.medicinenet.com/how_many_drinks_is_008_for_a_man/article.htm)
Altavia
04-20-2024, 01:48 PM
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Shipping up to Boston
04-20-2024, 01:53 PM
People stupidly think admitting drinking but not drinking a lot will gain them leniency. This is an incorrect assumption. If an officer asks if you’ve been drinking he has already determined that you’ve been drinking. The only correct answer to this question is “I exercise my right to remain silent.” Then they should refuse a field sobriety test and refuse a breathalyzer. Of course if they are drunk enough to be impaired they don’t always make these correct decisions.
True. But either scenario, you’re losing your driving privileges for a mandated period and don’t forget the overnight play date in the county lock up. Can you say ride share!
BobnBev
04-20-2024, 05:11 PM
People stupidly think admitting drinking but not drinking a lot will gain them leniency. This is an incorrect assumption. If an officer asks if you’ve been drinking he has already determined that you’ve been drinking. The only correct answer to this question is “I exercise my right to remain silent.” Then they should refuse a field sobriety test and refuse a breathalyzer. Of course if they are drunk enough to be impaired they don’t always make these correct decisions.
100% correct.
Altavia
04-20-2024, 05:23 PM
People stupidly think admitting drinking but not drinking a lot will gain them leniency. This is an incorrect assumption. If an officer asks if you’ve been drinking he has already determined that you’ve been drinking. The only correct answer to this question is “I exercise my right to remain silent.” Then they should refuse a field sobriety test and refuse a breathalyzer. Of course if they are drunk enough to be impaired they don’t always make these correct decisions.
I would add "My attorney advises ..."
frayedends
04-20-2024, 06:16 PM
True. But either scenario, you’re losing your driving privileges for a mandated period and don’t forget the overnight play date in the county lock up. Can you say ride share!
I agree, but if the cop thinks you have been drinking you are losing your driving privileges regardless. The key is to not give them any additional evidence. You will be better off in the long run if you don't get convicted. If you say you were drinking any amount or fail a sobriety test, you are getting convicted.
Now in my current adulthood status I would say that if you take a sobriety test there is no way you will pass. I feel now that if you have to take that test you are all but already convicted. HOWEVER, as a young adult, leaving Hampton Beach NH, I was pulled over, took the field sobriety test and passed. I was drunk but not hammered, maybe 4 or 5 beers over 2.5 hours. The officer estimated me at 0.6 or something. But who knows, maybe it was my white priviledge. :D
Shipping up to Boston
04-20-2024, 06:59 PM
I agree, but if the cop thinks you have been drinking you are losing your driving privileges regardless. The key is to not give them any additional evidence. You will be better off in the long run if you don't get convicted. If you say you were drinking any amount or fail a sobriety test, you are getting convicted.
Now in my current adulthood status I would say that if you take a sobriety test there is no way you will pass. I feel now that if you have to take that test you are all but already convicted. HOWEVER, as a young adult, leaving Hampton Beach NH, I was pulled over, took the field sobriety test and passed. I was drunk but not hammered, maybe 4 or 5 beers over 2.5 hours. The officer estimated me at 0.6 or something. But who knows, maybe it was my white priviledge. :D
I think it was more luck. Hampton Beach employs auxiliary/summer officers every season. NH State Police, reluctantly complements and supports the year round roster with officers. As do many abutting municipalities on a given summer evening. Even in the 80’s (sounds like your timeline), they had more important things going on than open containers and public drinking to address. Also in that era and in your case, officers had discretion and latitude. Now you have body worn and cruiser mounted cameras, much stricter DUI laws, penalties etc. On the bright side....and if it was one of those grey area arrests.....NH, like FL has very skilled DUI specific law firms. Many former LEO turned attorneys
Topspinmo
04-20-2024, 10:07 PM
In reading THE VILLAGES NEWS there always is an article about people being pulled over for a DUI. When asked how many drinks they have, the answer is around 2. If it takes only 2 drinks to be pulled over, maybe should consider not drinking. I know those people would not lie about how many drinks they have consumed. RIGHT.
Some! Don’t mean thousands :throwtomatoes:
Topspinmo
04-20-2024, 10:11 PM
Or…they can only remember the last two….
No, maybe they only had two. But officer didn’t ask how many joints, pills they popped, or what illegal drugs they’re on. :D Never seen so many pot heads in my life time as I seen in villages. :22yikes:
Laker14
04-21-2024, 04:37 AM
No, maybe they only had two. But officer didn’t ask how many joints, pills they popped, or what illegal drugs they’re on. :D Never seen so many pot heads in my life time as I seen in villages. :22yikes:
I am guessing you didn't live on a college campus in the 60s or 70s.
MandoMan
04-21-2024, 05:56 AM
Heh. Just as The Daily Sun is nonstop rainbows and unicorns, v i l l a g e s n e w s is all sleaze all the time. The truth content of a lot of the stories may be variable, but you can bet that if a story reflects negatively on The Villager or TV in general, v i l l a g e s. N e w s will run it.
I agree. Some people should not drink. But depending on v i l l a g e s. N e w s for the information necessary to make such a judgment might be just a bit suspect.
You are right. Sometimes when I read about these DUIs, I consider that cops are hearing these supposedly honest Americans lying to them nearly all the time. Do they become jaded? Do they learn to assume that everyone lies to them? I assume that’s what happens, but it’s very sad. Imagine how they must carry that home with them. I pity them, and also their families. For me, putting up with lies like that would drive the joy out of life.
crash
04-21-2024, 06:03 AM
I agree, but if the cop thinks you have been drinking you are losing your driving privileges regardless. The key is to not give them any additional evidence. You will be better off in the long run if you don't get convicted. If you say you were drinking any amount or fail a sobriety test, you are getting convicted.
Now in my current adulthood status I would say that if you take a sobriety test there is no way you will pass. I feel now that if you have to take that test you are all but already convicted. HOWEVER, as a young adult, leaving Hampton Beach NH, I was pulled over, took the field sobriety test and passed. I was drunk but not hammered, maybe 4 or 5 beers over 2.5 hours. The officer estimated me at 0.6 or something. But who knows, maybe it was my white priviledge. :D
At .6 you would be dead think you meant .06 two hundredths below the current legal limit.
daca55
04-21-2024, 06:09 AM
All these statics are all good info but at my age I will keep drinking because when I wake up in the morning that is not the best I want to feel all day🥃🥃
Dusty_Star
04-21-2024, 06:19 AM
I am guessing you didn't live on a college campus in the 60s or 70s.
Right you are. The comment you are replying to made me raise an eyebrow & think wow, that would be something.
JWGifford
04-21-2024, 07:24 AM
You are right. Sometimes when I read about these DUIs, I consider that cops are hearing these supposedly honest Americans lying to them nearly all the time. Do they become jaded? Do they learn to assume that everyone lies to them? I assume that’s what happens, but it’s very sad. Imagine how they must carry that home with them. I pity them, and also their families. For me, putting up with lies like that would drive the joy out of life.
You’re correct. I once had a friend whose husband was a LEO. I recall her saying “you and I have no comprehension of the types of people my husband deals with every single day”. He was very stoic.
Shipping up to Boston
04-21-2024, 08:22 AM
You’re correct. I once had a friend whose husband was a LEO. I recall her saying “you and I have no comprehension of the types of people my husband deals with every single day”. He was very stoic.
Kinda like a school principal!
Topspinmo
04-21-2024, 08:29 AM
I am guessing you didn't live on a college campus in the 60s or 70s.
No I had to work for living? Imagine that. :D
Topspinmo
04-21-2024, 08:31 AM
All these statics are all good info but at my age I will keep drinking because when I wake up in the morning that is not the best I want to feel all day🥃🥃
Agree, at our age we are lucky to wake up the next morning:eclipsee_gold_cup:
maggie1
04-21-2024, 08:43 AM
In reading THE VILLAGES NEWS there always is an article about people being pulled over for a DUI. When asked how many drinks they have, the answer is around 2. If it takes only 2 drinks to be pulled over, maybe should consider not drinking. I know those people would not lie about how many drinks they have consumed. RIGHT.
Well, he probably wasn't lying, but he neglected to tell the officer they were serving his beer in gallon buckets.
justjim
04-21-2024, 08:48 AM
In reading THE VILLAGES NEWS there always is an article about people being pulled over for a DUI. When asked how many drinks they have, the answer is around 2. If it takes only 2 drinks to be pulled over, maybe should consider not drinking. I know those people would not lie about how many drinks they have consumed. RIGHT.
All you have to do is spend a little time at the square bars (or even at the entertainment on the squares) to see that some people should not drink at all. “You can’t stay young forever but you can be immature for the rest of your life”. Anonymous
tophcfa
04-21-2024, 09:03 AM
HOWEVER, as a young adult, leaving Hampton Beach NH, I was pulled over, took the field sobriety test and passed. I was drunk but not hammered, maybe 4 or 5 beers over 2.5 hours. The officer estimated me at 0.6 or something. But who knows, maybe it was my white priviledge. :D
Back in the day a couple close friends got into trouble at Hampton Beach for open containers of alcohol (beer cans). The cop looked at their licenses and told the other cop they were from North Hampton and the other cop said to let them go with a warning. The first cop said, they are from Northampton, MA, not New Hampshire, so they threw them in jail. It goes to show that it was all about raising revenue from outsiders. I had to empty my bank account and drive to New Hampshire to bail my buddies out. So much for New Hampshires state motto, “Live free or Die”.
Indydealmaker
04-21-2024, 11:13 AM
People stupidly think admitting drinking but not drinking a lot will gain them leniency. This is an incorrect assumption. If an officer asks if you’ve been drinking he has already determined that you’ve been drinking. The only correct answer to this question is “I exercise my right to remain silent.” Then they should refuse a field sobriety test and refuse a breathalyzer. Of course if they are drunk enough to be impaired they don’t always make these correct decisions.
In most jurisdictions, your advice guarantees an arrest, a blood or breathalyzer test at the jail and suspension of driving privileges.
ThirdOfFive
04-22-2024, 10:36 AM
I agree, but if the cop thinks you have been drinking you are losing your driving privileges regardless. The key is to not give them any additional evidence. You will be better off in the long run if you don't get convicted. If you say you were drinking any amount or fail a sobriety test, you are getting convicted.
Now in my current adulthood status I would say that if you take a sobriety test there is no way you will pass. I feel now that if you have to take that test you are all but already convicted. HOWEVER, as a young adult, leaving Hampton Beach NH, I was pulled over, took the field sobriety test and passed. I was drunk but not hammered, maybe 4 or 5 beers over 2.5 hours. The officer estimated me at 0.6 or something. But who knows, maybe it was my white priviledge. :D
More than likely due to the fact that you drank those beers sensibly, over a pretty good length of time. Alcohol metabolizes at approximately 1 ounce per hour, so the breathalyzer you took probably reflected a hair over two beers, not the entire total.
Congratulations by the way. There are a lot of Villagers who could benefit by imbibing more slowly as you apparently did.
Shipping up to Boston
04-22-2024, 10:43 AM
More than likely due to the fact that you drank those beers sensibly, over a pretty good length of time. Alcohol metabolizes at approximately 1 ounce per hour, so the breathalyzer you took probably reflected a hair over two beers, not the entire total.
Congratulations by the way. There are a lot of Villagers who could benefit by imbibing more slowly as you apparently did.
Apologies for crossing threads but DUI cases were historically low at Katie Belles as most adhered to your premise....two drink minimum over 4-5 hours!
eremite06
04-22-2024, 01:25 PM
Budweiser now sells more nonalcohol beer, of which I only imbibe. Eight years sober and counting.
Topspinmo
04-22-2024, 01:27 PM
Budweiser now sells more nonalcohol beer, of which I only imbibe. Eight years sober and counting.
Congratulations on kicking nearly impossible habit….:bigbow::bigbow:
eremite06
04-22-2024, 01:41 PM
Congratulations on kicking nearly impossible habit….:bigbow::bigbow:
Thanks. 40 years ago I quit for 12 years but then those wine studies came out about its heart health benefits. Now, I realize no alcohol is beneficial for anything.
Shipping up to Boston
04-22-2024, 01:54 PM
Budweiser now sells more nonalcohol beer, of which I only imbibe. Eight years sober and counting.
Good job sir!
tophcfa
04-22-2024, 04:35 PM
Budweiser now sells more nonalcohol beer, of which I only imbibe. Eight years sober and counting.
Yet you have to go somewhere that sells alcohol to buy it. Why isn’t it available in places that only sell non alcohol beverages?
Two Bills
04-23-2024, 04:19 AM
Apologies for crossing threads but DUI cases were historically low at Katie Belles as most adhered to your premise....two drink minimum over 4-5 hours!
...............and most of those were Village Cocktails.
Water with a slice of lemon and a bag of chips.
RICH1
04-23-2024, 04:42 AM
Alcoholism is a Disease ! Yes, the stories are all over the Tri-county area , but in reality, it's very sad...
CoachKandSportsguy
04-23-2024, 05:25 PM
the way most 0.18 alcohol level arrested people explain their consumption
frayedends
04-23-2024, 06:06 PM
At .6 you would be dead think you meant .06 two hundredths below the current legal limit.
You are correct. My error. It was like 0.06. He said I was just under.
frayedends
04-23-2024, 06:10 PM
In most jurisdictions, your advice guarantees an arrest, a blood or breathalyzer test at the jail and suspension of driving privileges.
And telling them you had 2 beers or taking a field sobriety test and you are also getting arrested but you’ve given them more evidence. By the time they get the mandatory blood test you could be a lower limit.
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