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ElDiabloJoe
04-25-2024, 08:55 AM
For years I used a Nest thermostat and was happy with its intuitive user interface. I HATE those ones with pre-set M-F 8-5 defaults because they are hard to manipulate and control. I never worked M-F 8-5 and I don't work now, so they were always a huge PITA.
Well, I wanted to upgrade to a thermostat that I could control from anywhere in the world with temperature and humidity readings and settings. Turns out, Google is discontinuing the Nest line.
Sooo, what is a good, solid, easy to use, internet accessible and settable alternative?
Kenswing
04-25-2024, 09:04 AM
Our house came with an Ecobee. It will do pretty much anything you want it to.
metoo21
04-25-2024, 09:09 AM
Ecobee3 Lite
dewilson58
04-25-2024, 09:29 AM
Ecobee
Altavia
04-25-2024, 10:44 AM
+1 for Ecobee, very intuitive to use with the latest updates.
starflyte1
04-25-2024, 12:18 PM
Ecobee
daniel200
04-25-2024, 06:58 PM
I have had an ecobee for 5 years. I have never had a problem with the hardware or thermostat function. In my opinion, the ecobee ipad app is not well done and not so intuitive. But I seldom use the app.
tophcfa
04-25-2024, 07:09 PM
I’m good using a temp stick to monitor our home’s temperature and humidity remotely (it doesn’t control the HVAC settings). I keep it in our northern home during the winter while in the Villages to be sure our pipes won’t freeze, and put it in our Villages home during the summer to insure our A/C is functioning and mold won’t attack out home. It sends me texts when the temperature and humidity get outside of ranges I set. If I have an issue in the Villages I call Chuck Ferrell and up north I call my neighbor and the oil burner service guy. Easy peasy, with one simple device.
La lamy
04-26-2024, 04:38 AM
I have the Honeywell RTH9585WF and I'm very satisfied with it. Easy to work from home and while away. It shows temperature and humidity outside the home as well as inside. Such a fantastic tool.
samquiros
04-26-2024, 05:33 AM
Ecobee
daca55
04-26-2024, 06:00 AM
I have the Honeywell RTH9585WF and I'm very satisfied with it. Easy to work from home and while away. It shows temperature and humidity outside the home as well as inside. Such a fantastic tool.
I have the same one and it works great. I go home to NH and I can change settings from there.
rsmurano
04-26-2024, 06:12 AM
I’ve had ecobee in my last 3 houses. Last house they put a smart Honeywell in it and it was taken out for multiple ecobee’s. There is so much you can do with an ecobee, how you control it, and I get a report each month telling me how I did versus others in the area, no names just a generic report.
Guzzel
04-26-2024, 06:19 AM
For years I used a Nest thermostat and was happy with its intuitive user interface. I HATE those ones with pre-set M-F 8-5 defaults because they are hard to manipulate and control. I never worked M-F 8-5 and I don't work now, so they were always a huge PITA.
Well, I wanted to upgrade to a thermostat that I could control from anywhere in the world with temperature and humidity readings and settings. Turns out, Google is discontinuing the Nest line.
Sooo, what is a good, solid, easy to use, internet accessible and settable alternative?
I have two Ecobee thermostats; one at my house and the other in my condo; they are fantastic. As soon as guests depart our condo, I remote login and adjust the temperature. It sure beats driving 30 miles.
JRcorvette
04-26-2024, 07:28 AM
For years I used a Nest thermostat and was happy with its intuitive user interface. I HATE those ones with pre-set M-F 8-5 defaults because they are hard to manipulate and control. I never worked M-F 8-5 and I don't work now, so they were always a huge PITA.
Well, I wanted to upgrade to a thermostat that I could control from anywhere in the world with temperature and humidity readings and settings. Turns out, Google is discontinuing the Nest line.
Sooo, what is a good, solid, easy to use, internet accessible and settable alternative?
We have been using the Honeywell thermostat since 2014 and love it. It does not adjust the temperature automatically but you can do so on your phone or tablet from anywhere! You can buy them at any Big Box store or online. You will need an AC company to install because they have to do something out at the air handler unit.
H-ned
04-26-2024, 08:46 AM
Here’s another recommendation for Honeywell. I installed and use the Home Honeywell THX321WFS2001W T10 Pro Smart Thermostat. It is WiFi accessible and I successfully monitor and adjust settings from an app on my phone. It works great. I bought it on Amazon. If you go with a Honeywell, be sure to get either a T9 or T10 version. (T10 has humidity control, if you want to use that.)
ElDiabloJoe
04-26-2024, 08:58 AM
These are great insights and responses, thank you.
As I have had head-banging frustrations with Honeywell in the past (pre-set convoluted 7 and 14 day programs, non-intuitive pains in the derriere, etc.) I will investigate the ecobees first.
:BigApplause:
Harold.wiser
04-26-2024, 09:23 AM
Ecobee
RoadToad
04-26-2024, 09:29 AM
For years I used a Nest thermostat and was happy with its intuitive user interface. I HATE those ones with pre-set M-F 8-5 defaults because they are hard to manipulate and control. I never worked M-F 8-5 and I don't work now, so they were always a huge PITA.
Well, I wanted to upgrade to a thermostat that I could control from anywhere in the world with temperature and humidity readings and settings. Turns out, Google is discontinuing the Nest line.
Sooo, what is a good, solid, easy to use, internet accessible and settable alternative?
We have a Honeywell Home Smart in Arizona.. Love it. No workweek bothers.
Robot or human? (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Honeywell-Home-Smart-Color-Thermostat/234116673?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=7655&adid=22222222227234116673_7655_160349957224_205543 86206&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=674097901607&wl4=pla-2017164124470&wl5=9011518&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=115781391&wl11=online&wl12=234116673_7655&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwoa2xBhACEiwA1sb1BP569DSyqYAdlJ8ochIt B80ZmRlOv9VNSEIgSU8k3DWiH6trvqH3qxoCkhoQAvD_BwE) (link name confusing but works fine)
Also, here is Buyers Guide for 10 Best 2024 WiFi stats.
Best WiFi Thermostats 2024 (https://buyersguide.org/smart-thermostats/t/wifi?m=e&d=c&c=649039723859&p=&oid=kwd-359728675847&lp=9011518&li=&nw=g&nts=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwoa2xBhACEiwA1sb1BK-RZ0UT9Ucer6k8HBGv6JldArUor3lFlWTJ_v2oBuxvcWWK8WG9W xoC_PAQAvD_BwE&tdid=8508959&gad_source=1)
laboutj
04-26-2024, 09:55 AM
For years I used a Nest thermostat and was happy with its intuitive user interface. I HATE those ones with pre-set M-F 8-5 defaults because they are hard to manipulate and control. I never worked M-F 8-5 and I don't work now, so they were always a huge PITA.
Well, I wanted to upgrade to a thermostat that I could control from anywhere in the world with temperature and humidity readings and settings. Turns out, Google is discontinuing the Nest line.
Sooo, what is a good, solid, easy to use, internet accessible and settable alternative?
Don't know where you got your information, but Nest thermostats are not being discontinued. Not to say the Nest app may go away in the future, but you can control a Nest thermostat with the Google Home app too.
DALEPQ
04-26-2024, 09:59 AM
Installed a complete new Carrier HVAC in January.
Came with ECOBEE thermostat, that is working GREAT, so far!
Will be going North for summer season, expect to be able to control/monitor from there.
Really easy to adjust.
Don't think you could go wrong with ECOBEE.
La lamy
04-27-2024, 04:52 AM
We have been using the Honeywell thermostat since 2014 and love it. It does not adjust the temperature automatically but you can do so on your phone or tablet from anywhere! You can buy them at any Big Box store or online. You will need an AC company to install because they have to do something out at the air handler unit.
It's true that there is a shift at the AC unit but it's not rocket science. Don't pay too much if you get a tech to do it for you. It's about 15 minutes to install it all if you know what you're doing.
frayedends
04-27-2024, 05:59 AM
I can find no information stating that Google is discontinuing Nest thermostats. They are stopping a few things like Nest Secure (alarm system of some kind) and "Works with Nest" support.
That being said I think I like my Ecobee in Florida better than my Nest in Massachusetts. I had to turn on the learning feature on Nest. My wife is a realtor so the Nest couldn't really learn her home and away routine because nothing about being a realtor is routine.
ElDiabloJoe
04-27-2024, 09:39 AM
I can find no information stating that Google is discontinuing Nest thermostats. They are stopping a few things like Nest Secure (alarm system of some kind) and "Works with Nest" support.
That being said I think I like my Ecobee in Florida better than my Nest in Massachusetts. I had to turn on the learning feature on Nest. My wife is a realtor so the Nest couldn't really learn her home and away routine because nothing about being a realtor is routine.
Really? I find a bunch of info that they are being discontinued. Go to the major search engine that rhymes with Boogle, and type in "Nest thermostat discontinued." Every response below the "Reddit" top response indicates that Nest is on its way out. Even if these answers are not exactly correct the number of them are indicative that the date of expiration for Nest is either here or fast approaching. Hence my original post.
wincherr
04-27-2024, 11:43 AM
I just had an Ecobee Premium installed. I love it. It has two remote sensors and averages the temperature of all three locations instead of just the main screen. You can tell it how many minutes minimum per hour to run your fan (keeps all balanced out overnight). This thing is just amazing. Bought it online at Costco for $200. Chuck Farrell put it in for $99 (had to remove the Carrier relay on the HVAC unit etc). Can’t recommend it enough.
Jacintod
04-27-2024, 12:22 PM
Ecobee, Ecobee,...Ecobee. They are a Canadian based company with unbelievable customer support. I installed the Alexa Ecobee in my house and they worked with me over the phone sending pictures back and forth. I sent them a picture of my current wiring and they sent me back one where the wires should go. You don't get that kind of service anywhere anymore...and for free. I've now had it over 6 years with no complaints.
frayedends
04-27-2024, 02:17 PM
Really? I find a bunch of info that they are being discontinued. Go to the major search engine that rhymes with Boogle, and type in "Nest thermostat discontinued." Every response below the "Reddit" top response indicates that Nest is on its way out. Even if these answers are not exactly correct the number of them are indicative that the date of expiration for Nest is either here or fast approaching. Hence my original post.
I could not find one article, using your exact search criteria, stating the thermostats are being discontinued. They are discontinuing Nest Secure and "Works with Nest".
Do you have a link to any source?
ElDiabloJoe
04-27-2024, 02:34 PM
I could not find one article, using your exact search criteria, stating the thermostats are being discontinued. They are discontinuing Nest Secure and "Works with Nest".
Do you have a link to any source?
Yeahhhh, I might be able to find one... Keeping in mind, the Reddit link discusses the thermostat itself, other links (As stated in my original and subsequent posts) indicate the supporting architecture and ecosystem is no longer being supported or developed. That would mean any underlying appliances using same are headed down the immediate road to obsolescence. I mean, when they started taking floppy disk drives out of computers it didn't mean they were discontinuing floppy disks... but the writing was on the wall, no?
A kinda rhetorical reply, but did you even try?
When I search exactly as indicated, this is my results screen, hence my concerns and inquiries regarding Nest products being discontinued. While the thermostat is not specifically stated, the direction they are headed in ceasing support and development for Nest products is inclusive with concerns for the thermostat itself:
Imgur: The magic of the Internet (https://imgur.com/a/fNuT2Fa)
The next link is from google's own support pages. Ya know the folks that bought out and own Nest:
Support for Nest Secure ended - Google Nest Help (https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/10191961?hl=en)
Google to discontinue these Nest products from April 2024: Here’s what you need to know | Technology News - The Indian Express (https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-technology/google-to-discontinue-these-nest-products-from-april-2024-8545253/)
Nest Secure Shutting Down: Alternatives, What to Know - NerdWallet (https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/mortgages/nest-secure-discontinued#:~:text=Google%27s%20Nest%20Secure%20 alarm%20systems,that%20means%20for%20Nest%20users.&text=Dalia%20Ramirez%20writes%20about%20home%20ser vices%20and%20estate%20planning%20for%20NerdWallet .)
Google announces the end of multiple Nest products. What you need to know | ZDNET (https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-announces-the-end-of-multiple-nest-products-heres-what-you-need-to-know/)
https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/8/24124244/google-nest-secure-security-system-shut-down-alternatives#
https://www.failory.com/google/nest-secure#:~:text=The%20facts%20are%20that%20the,make %20much%20of%20a%20difference.
https://talk.tidbits.com/t/google-kills-off-nest-security-ecosystem/26216
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nest/comments/1auy59k/gen_2_nest_thermostat_discontinued_no_updates/?rdt=41548
frayedends
04-27-2024, 02:47 PM
Yeahhhh, I might be able to find one... Keeping in mind, the Reddit link discusses the thermostat itself, other links (As stated in my original and subsequent posts) indicate the supporting architecture and ecosystem is no longer being supported or developed. That would mean any underlying appliances using same are headed down the immediate road to obsolescence. I mean, when they started taking floppy disk drives out of computers it didn't mean they were discontinuing floppy disks... but the writing was on the wall, no?
A kinda rhetorical reply, but did you even try?
When I search exactly as indicated, this is my results screen, hence my concerns and inquiries regarding Nest products being discontinued. While the thermostat is not specifically stated, the direction they are headed in ceasing support and development for Nest products is inclusive with concerns for the thermostat itself:
Imgur: The magic of the Internet (https://imgur.com/a/fNuT2Fa)
The next link is from google's own support pages. Ya know the folks that bought out and own Nest:
Support for Nest Secure ended - Google Nest Help (https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/10191961?hl=en)
Google to discontinue these Nest products from April 2024: Here’s what you need to know | Technology News - The Indian Express (https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-technology/google-to-discontinue-these-nest-products-from-april-2024-8545253/)
Nest Secure Shutting Down: Alternatives, What to Know - NerdWallet (https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/mortgages/nest-secure-discontinued#:~:text=Google%27s%20Nest%20Secure%20 alarm%20systems,that%20means%20for%20Nest%20users.&text=Dalia%20Ramirez%20writes%20about%20home%20ser vices%20and%20estate%20planning%20for%20NerdWallet .)
Google announces the end of multiple Nest products. What you need to know | ZDNET (https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-announces-the-end-of-multiple-nest-products-heres-what-you-need-to-know/)
https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/8/24124244/google-nest-secure-security-system-shut-down-alternatives#
https://www.failory.com/google/nest-secure#:~:text=The%20facts%20are%20that%20the,make %20much%20of%20a%20difference.
https://talk.tidbits.com/t/google-kills-off-nest-security-ecosystem/26216
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nest/comments/1auy59k/gen_2_nest_thermostat_discontinued_no_updates/?rdt=41548
I don't want to sound rude but you have to read the articles, not just headlines. Did I even try? Yup, same results as you but I read the articles. Nest Secure is a security system. They are not discontinuing the thermostats.
ETA: Every link in your post shows Nest Secure, not the thermostats, save one link. That link talks about gen 2 support being discontinued and is from 12 years ago.
I read your post again and now I get it. You somehow deduced that Google is discontinuing the thermostats because you read that they are getting rid of other Nest products. But you told us that they were discontinuing the thermostats. Fake News.
Here's what I get reading the articles: Google is consolidating. They are getting rid of Drop Cam support, which was old tech that they bought. They only want to support Google Nest cameras. They bought ADT, so they are getting rid of Nest Secure in favor of the ADT alternative. They don't want to support 2 different systems. They are getting rid of "works with nest" so that you have to buy their stuff to work with their stuff. Sort of an Apple model I would think.
As noted by someone a few posts up, they likely do away with the Nest App, which is fine. I'm using the Google Home app anyhow.
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