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pendi99
04-25-2024, 11:54 AM
What is going on with Havana golf? Closed for 6 weeks, no apparent work being done?
Abandoned? No work being done?

dewilson58
04-25-2024, 02:37 PM
What is going on with Havana golf? Closed for 6 weeks, no apparent work being done?
Abandoned? No work being done?

Call

Mleeja
04-25-2024, 03:26 PM
Grass is growing. Being mowed. Looks like it is recovering fairly well.

tophcfa
04-25-2024, 07:30 PM
What’s up with that course? It consistently seems to have more problems with conditions than any other Championship course in the Villages.

jarodrig
04-26-2024, 07:40 AM
Same observation here ….

I drive by that course frequently and each time , there is not one single worker doing anything….

I guess they must be doing the work at night !! LOL :)

Carla B
04-26-2024, 07:57 AM
When you say "Havana," which course do you mean, or do you mean all three courses? I live on one of them and wondered why there's been no activity lately.

Mrmean58
04-26-2024, 08:34 AM
Same observation here ….

I drive by that course frequently and each time , there is not one single worker doing anything….

I guess they must be doing the work at night !! LOL :)
There has been significant work done including aerations in the greens and fairways new sod in some of the greens, top dressing the greens and fairways. Right now the big guy upstairs has provided better growing conditions.
What work do all of you professional agronomists wants to see being done on a daily basis aside from what's being done?

Papa_lecki
04-26-2024, 08:34 AM
Same observation here ….

I drive by that course frequently and each time , there is not one single worker doing anything….

I guess they must be doing the work at night !! LOL :)

Once the grass is repaired, it’s up to the sun and rain.
There is no need to move the holes every day, no need to rake the bunkers.
They probably only mow a few times a week.

Harold.wiser
04-26-2024, 09:24 AM
When grass is growing it appears as though nothing is being done.

mkjelenbaas
04-28-2024, 06:17 AM
What is going on with Havana golf? Closed for 6 weeks, no apparent work being done?
Abandoned? No work being done?
Abandoned? I have seen them working on the course multiple times??

AlanC
04-28-2024, 07:46 AM
What is going on with Havana golf? Closed for 6 weeks, no apparent work being done?
Abandoned? No work being done?

You could always stop by the pro shop or call to find out the progress. They provide a very simple answer.

Juniper
04-28-2024, 02:15 PM
If you can’t ask a golf question here where can you? Lighten up

pokeefe45@aol.com
04-28-2024, 10:23 PM
What is going on with Havana golf? Closed for 6 weeks, no apparent work being done?
Abandoned? No work being done?
It's like watching grass grow, isn't it? Well?

Two Bills
04-29-2024, 04:43 AM
It's like watching grass grow, isn't it? Well?

One of my great pass times, second only to watching paint dry!:icon_wink:

pendi99
04-30-2024, 06:05 AM
I heard a rumor that the wrong fertilizer used on the greens. Contractor issue, were they held responsible?

dewilson58
04-30-2024, 06:47 AM
I heard a rumor that the wrong fertilizer used on the greens. Contractor issue, were they held responsible?

Looks like you answered your own OP.

:shocked:

BrianL99
04-30-2024, 06:54 AM
Bad news on the golf front.

The team that's been maintaining Glenview, are moving down South tomorrow.

As of tomorrow, TDS, Lopez & Glenview contractors have all moved South.

We'll still have the Havana & Evans Prairie team on the job. :cry:

Geez, most everyone else wants to go North for the hot summer.

tophcfa
04-30-2024, 09:08 AM
Bad news on the golf front.

The team that's been maintaining Glenview, are moving down South tomorrow.

As of tomorrow, TDS, Lopez & Glenview contractors have all moved South.

We'll still have the Havana & Evans Prairie team on the job. :cry:

Geez, most everyone else wants to go North for the hot summer.

That indeed is bad news.

Stu from NYC
04-30-2024, 09:47 AM
So where is the best place to watch grass grow? Asking for a friend.

dewilson58
04-30-2024, 09:49 AM
So where is the best place to watch grass grow? Asking for a friend.

Denver.

And they have samples you can smoke.

Hape2Bhr
04-30-2024, 09:50 AM
Bad news on the golf front.

The team that's been maintaining Glenview, are moving down South tomorrow.

As of tomorrow, TDS, Lopez & Glenview contractors have all moved South.

We'll still have the Havana & Evans Prairie team on the job. :cry:

Geez, most everyone else wants to go North for the hot summer.

The putting green next to Fox Run @ Glenview was fairly quick yesterday; too bad the greens on the course were not. :shocked:

BrianL99
04-30-2024, 10:26 AM
The putting green next to Fox Run @ Glenview was fairly quick yesterday; too bad the greens on the course were not. :shocked:

I played Tally-Fox Run yesterday and shot 74 from the Blues. I thought the Greens were running exactly the same ... about 8.5 - 9.0.

JMintzer
05-01-2024, 08:38 AM
If you can’t ask a golf question here where can you? Lighten up

Maybe the Pro Shop? :1rotfl:

clwahlstrom
05-03-2024, 06:53 AM
When you say "Havana," which course do you mean, or do you mean all three courses? I live on one of them and wondered why there's been no activity lately.

I live on Kenya, first hole, constant work being done here. Looking good!

dewilson58
05-03-2024, 06:55 AM
I live on Kenya, first hole, constant work being done here. Looking good!

I have a T Time Monday morning..................I'll honk when I go by.

:wave:

jabacon6669
05-03-2024, 07:42 AM
My source, a manager at one of the championship courses tell me it will be re opening around June 1. Also, those talking about the grounds crew moving south. That happened a few months back, and went to Southern Oaks. Maybe that's why Southern Oaks is in such great shape.

dewilson58
05-03-2024, 07:54 AM
My source, a manager at one of the championship courses tell me it will be re opening around June 1.

Bad information......................It's open Monday.

:ho:

Stu from NYC
05-03-2024, 08:42 AM
I live on Kenya, first hole, constant work being done here. Looking good!

Wow a heck of a long commute

pendi99
05-04-2024, 07:29 AM
Bad information......................It's open Monday.

:ho:

Open next week!

BrianL99
05-04-2024, 09:11 AM
Also, those talking about the grounds crew moving south. That happened a few months back, and went to Southern Oaks. Maybe that's why Southern Oaks is in such great shape.

Glenview's crew left last week to move South.

TDS's crew left a couple of months ago, as did the Lopez crew.

NJRICHARD
05-04-2024, 11:01 AM
This is done on purpose!! You don't neglect the courses like this unless you want too. If you hire competent managers who know what they are doing this would never happen...unless their budget is cut!! Follow the money.

JMintzer
05-04-2024, 11:45 AM
This is done on purpose!! You don't neglect the courses like this unless you want too. If you hire competent managers who know what they are doing this would never happen...unless their budget is cut!! Follow the money.

New conspiracy Boss!

tophcfa
05-04-2024, 01:14 PM
Managed to play every Championship course this winter (some several times) except for Havana and Evans due to conditions. Looking forward to returning later this month to cross those two off the 2024 list. Love the variety of golf at the various courses, however I won’t be returning to Southern Oaks anytime soon. Besides good greens (which several other courses offer), I was very disappointed with the very mundane and boring wide open layout, turnpike and major power lines, and pro shop set up across the street. And for that it’s the most expensive course in the bubble? Even for the same price, I would rather play any other course in the Villages, with the possible exception of Orange Blossom, that’s about a tie. Hopefully the new Championship courses being built will be better?

BrianL99
05-04-2024, 06:49 PM
Managed to play every Championship course this winter (some several times) except for Havana and Evans due to conditions. Looking forward to returning later this month to cross those two off the 2024 list. Love the variety of golf at the various courses, however I won’t be returning to Southern Oaks anytime soon. Besides good greens (which several other courses offer), I was very disappointed with the very mundane and boring wide open layout, turnpike and major power lines, and pro shop set up across the street. And for that it’s the most expensive course in the bubble? Even for the same price, I would rather play any other course in the Villages, with the possible exception of Orange Blossom, that’s about a tie. Hopefully the new Championship courses being built will be better?

Southern Oaks looks (& plays), like an airport that someone stuck flags in. I played there exactly once. Shook my head all the way home, realizing what an idiot I was, for riding 40 minutes in a golf cart to play that joke of a golf course.

On the other hand, it proves how smart the Developer is. He bought that land and said ... "Geez, most people aren't going to want to buy a house right next to the Turnpike. That land isn't worth anything. Oh wait! Let's stick some flags in the ground, call it a golf course and we'll charge folks extra to live on the golf course".

Shipping up to Boston
05-04-2024, 06:54 PM
Southern Oaks looks (& plays), like an airport that someone stuck flags in. I played there exactly once. Shook my head all the way home, realizing what an idiot I was, for riding 40 minutes in a golf cart to play that joke of a golf course.

On the other hand, it proves how smart the Developer is. He bought that land and said ... "Geez, most people aren't going to want to buy a house right next to the Turnpike. That land isn't worth anything. Oh wait! Let's stick some flags in the ground, call it a golf course and we'll charge folks extra to live on the golf course".

Too funny!

tophcfa
05-04-2024, 07:12 PM
Southern Oaks looks (& plays), like an airport that someone stuck flags in. I played there exactly once. Shook my head all the way home, realizing what an idiot I was, for riding 40 minutes in a golf cart to play that joke of a golf course.

I guess that makes me an idiot also, I brought my guests there and it was about an hour golf cart ride using both my Yamahas. Oh well, at least our t time was after 2:00, so we played 18 for the 9 hole rate. In an attempt to say something positive about the course besides the quality of the greens, we enjoyed the three par 3, 4, and 5 per 9 design.

DARFAP
05-05-2024, 04:46 AM
I have a tee time there this Wednesday. Looking forward to playing it again.

BrianL99
05-05-2024, 05:21 AM
I guess that makes me an idiot also, I brought my guests there and it was about an hour golf cart ride using both my Yamahas. Oh well, at least our t time was after 2:00, so we played 18 for the 9 hole rate. In an attempt to say something positive about the course besides the quality of the greens, we enjoyed the three par 3, 4, and 5 per 9 design.

I played it just that one time, soon after it opened. I do remember the 3-3-3 setup. It was like playing on pavement. I can't hit it long, I'm old. But on 13, I hit Driver-5 Iron onto the green ... which means I must have totaled 100 yards of roll, between the 2 shots. Made Eagle, though.

kkingston57
05-05-2024, 09:22 AM
Same observation here ….

I drive by that course frequently and each time , there is not one single worker doing anything….

I guess they must be doing the work at night !! LOL :)

They are giving the grass time to grow back

jarodrig
05-05-2024, 03:51 PM
They are giving the grass time to grow back

Really ??

All they have to do is STOP mowing the snot out of it when there nothing there to mow to begin with !!!

pendi99
05-08-2024, 05:30 AM
Interesting that it closed and reopened w/zero public announcements?

greg.turay
05-08-2024, 07:07 AM
I played with a Couple of friends on Kenya this week and the greens are a bit fuzzy, not real fast, but weed free and fairly true lines to the holes. It was a pleasure to golf a real course in the Villages again.

UpNorth
05-08-2024, 07:49 AM
Southern Oaks looks (& plays), like an airport that someone stuck flags in. I played there exactly once. Shook my head all the way home, realizing what an idiot I was, for riding 40 minutes in a golf cart to play that joke of a golf course.

On the other hand, it proves how smart the Developer is. He bought that land and said ... "Geez, most people aren't going to want to buy a house right next to the Turnpike. That land isn't worth anything. Oh wait! Let's stick some flags in the ground, call it a golf course and we'll charge folks extra to live on the golf course".


Nearly all of the championship courses are designed with the same boring layout.
Developer puts in drainage ponds on land and hands it over to be turned into a golf course. Designer has to work with what the developer gives him, which is not much.

jabacon6669
05-09-2024, 07:10 AM
My source, a manager at one of the championship courses tell me it will be re opening around June 1. Also, those talking about the grounds crew moving south. That happened a few months back, and went to Southern Oaks. Maybe that's why Southern Oaks is in such great shape.
Havana opened this past Monday.

BrianL99
05-09-2024, 08:57 AM
Havana opened this past Monday.

In my opinion, Havana is in the best condition of any course on Campus ... including TDS & Glenview.

The fairways and greens aren't cut as short as usual, as I think they're working hard to keep it in condition and rain is in short supply. As a result, the Greens are slower than most would like, but the course is in great condition for TV.

sowilts
05-09-2024, 02:00 PM
In my opinion, Havana is in the best condition of any course on Campus ... including TDS & Glenview.

The fairways and greens aren't cut as short as usual, as I think they're working hard to keep it in condition and rain is in short supply. As a result, the Greens are slower than most would like, but the course is in great condition for TV.
Agree, played Kenya this morning. A+ all around. Fixed 27 other divots during 9 holes.

BrianL99
05-09-2024, 04:54 PM
Agree, played Kenya this morning. A+ all around.

Let's not get blinded by "reduced expectations". Augusta National is A+, Havana is definitely B ...which is saying a lot in TV! :BigApplause:

Shipping up to Boston
05-09-2024, 05:00 PM
Let's not get blinded by "reduced expectations". Augusta National is A+, Havana is definitely B ...which is saying a lot in TV! :BigApplause:

The difference is you don’t have to give up your first born to play a round at Havana!

thelegges
05-10-2024, 05:04 PM
The difference is you don’t have to give up your first born to play a round at Havana!

Sometimes the first born comes out a little wonky, so might be worth a give away for great course

jarodrig
05-10-2024, 05:18 PM
My wife and “the girls” played Havana today .

She stated that the course was I great shape , unlike it was a couple of months ago….

So….???

Steve
05-13-2024, 08:20 AM
What is going on with Havana golf? Closed for 6 weeks, no apparent work being done?
Abandoned? No work being done?

Drove by late yesterday afternoon. Flags were in and even saw a couple of players. Must be open now. You would have thought the local paper would have had a banner headline on the front page announcing a remarkable recovery!

Steve
05-13-2024, 08:22 AM
The difference is you don’t have to give up your first born to play a round at Havana!

Wait until the next rate increase!

dewilson58
05-13-2024, 12:35 PM
Drove by late yesterday afternoon. Flags were in and even saw a couple of players. Must be open now.

Welcome to the party

Cbriggi
05-14-2024, 07:22 AM
I played Havana yesterday. For the most part fairways, rough and greens are in very good shape. However all the bunkers are like concrete. They have not been groomed at all. We played Kenya and Killa. On the turn to Kenya all the greens were sanded where Killa were not. Consistency is all a golfer can ask for and that was a fail.

lawgolfer
05-14-2024, 08:13 AM
I played Tally-Fox Run yesterday and shot 74 from the Blues. I thought the Greens were running exactly the same ... about 8.5 - 9.0.
I played the same nines yesterday. I doubt that there was one green that ran much above 7. The practice green was faster, which adds to the problem when you get on the course.

BrianL99
05-14-2024, 08:33 AM
I played the same nines yesterday. I doubt that there was one green that ran much above 7. The practice green was faster, which adds to the problem when you get on the course.

Over the last week or 2, all the courses seem to be letting the Greens grow a little longer, due to the lack of rain ... which of course, slows them down.

Played TDS Sunday and the greens were a bit slower than normal ... my guess was 8.5.

Robojo
05-19-2024, 09:33 AM
What is going on with Havana golf? Closed for 6 weeks, no apparent work being done?
Abandoned? No work being done?

When I first moved here I saw all these complaints And I said to myself I'm so glad I don't play golf. I came for the pools. However, the pools are usually FILTHY as well.

Villages maintenance needs to step up their game.

JMintzer
05-19-2024, 02:02 PM
When I first moved here I saw all these complaints And I said to myself I'm so glad I don't play golf. I came for the pools. However, the pools are usually FILTHY as well.

Villages maintenance needs to step up their game.

None of the dozen pools I've visited have been anything less that very clean... Most were pristine...

Stu from NYC
05-19-2024, 02:11 PM
When I first moved here I saw all these complaints And I said to myself I'm so glad I don't play golf. I came for the pools. However, the pools are usually FILTHY as well.

Villages maintenance needs to step up their game.

Have never seen a filthy pool here. You want to elaborate