Poisons and Toxins .....all over the place

[E Cascade]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.wrap yourself in bubble wrap and never leave the house that should work

[BrianL99]

wrap yourself in bubble wrap and never leave the house that should work


It's all for naught, if you don't wrap your head in tin foil.

[Bill14564]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

Keep your dog out of my landscaping. Keep you dog off the furniture. Stop buying into the hysteria.

[Shipping up to Boston]

wrap yourself in bubble wrap and never leave the house that should work

Saran Wrap party? Violates the Loufer Code in deed restrictions!

[vintageogauge]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

You are referring to "residents" doing this, my questions is why are allowing your dog to walk on their lawns? Also you mentioned you "read" how this is happening, does that mean you have never really witnessed it?

[Velvet]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

Hey! Why are your animals walking on private grass? Did you not think people would be too angry about that, to answer your question?

[Topspinmo]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

You could volunteer to hand weed there yards:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[retiredguy123]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.
According to the EPA, Roundup and glyphosate do not cause cancer.

[Two Bills]

Could wash dogs paws before reentering house.

[MightyDog]

Oh my, I think I best not wade into the astonishing amount of denial on this thread. In the 21st century, I wouldn't have guessed it would still be running so deep.

--- Signed, Child whose father died (brain cancer) 20 years sooner than he should have because of the KNOWN (to management - DuPont) cancer-producing chemicals being pumped into the air and water where he worked.

Their complicity, eventually, resulted in one of the largest class action lawsuit in American history because 1000s were killed or seriously harmed by those known carcinogens.

(But, you all keep making fun of exposure to chemicals primarily policed only by the chemical producers themselves. SMH!)

[Shipping up to Boston]

According to the EPA, Roundup and glyphosate do not cause cancer.

Not saying I totally disagree but Attorneys might dispute this.......


Roundup Settlement: 2024 Roundup Weed Killer Settlement Updates (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.drugwatch.com/legal/roundup-settlements/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjBo6r7reWFAxX7hIkEHewdBncQFnoECAEQAw&usg=AOvVaw39NJLyOhQkQW098KJp0Y81)

[Normal]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

May want to stay out of my lawn then. It’s loaded with all kinds of things. But then I’m sure you aren’t one of the rude ones who lets their dog into my corner lot. Respect my hard work on the lawn and your animal has no problems. I do spray all the way up to the curb too.

[LuvNH]

Oh my, I think I best not wade into the astonishing amount of denial on this thread. In the 21st century, I wouldn't have guessed it would still be running so deep.

--- Signed, Child whose father died (brain cancer) 20 years sooner than he should have because of the KNOWN (to management) cancer-producing chemicals being pumped into the air and water where he worked.

Their complicity, eventually, resulted in the largest class action lawsuit in American history.

(But, you all keep making fun of exposure to chemicals primarily policed only by the chemical producers themselves. SMH!)

Well said MightyDog, thank you. Just this week there was a story about more and more young people getting cancer. My husband has to see a hematologist monthly, at his appointment this past week there were two very young men with brain tumors waiting for treatment.

[coffeebean]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

Chemicals......can't live with them and can't live without them.

[coffeebean]

You are referring to "residents" doing this, my questions is why are allowing your dog to walk on their lawns? Also you mentioned you "read" how this is happening, does that mean you have never really witnessed it?

Regarding walking the dog.......We don't have a dog now but we were dog owners for over 30 years. Neither one of our dogs ever set paw on another person's property. We had a brick walkway to the dog's potty area from our house back door. We always walked the dogs on a leash so they would not "go" anywhere on our lawn. The potty area was surrounded by bricks and in the center we had shredded mulch. That was so nice an soft for the dog's paws. No chemicals were ever sprayed onto the potty area mulch. We did take the dogs for walks in the streets, on sidewalks or the "woods" on a path in NJ. (THAT NJ path was nice).

[Normal]

Regarding walking the dog.......We don't have a dog now but we were dog owners for over 30 years. Neither one of our dogs ever set paw on another person's property. We had a brick walkway to the dog's potty area from our back door to the house. We always walked the dogs on a leash so they would not "go" anywhere on our lawn. The potty area was surrounded by bricks and in the center we had shredded mulch. That was so nice an soft for the dog's paws. No chemicals were ever sprayed onto the potty area mulch. We did take the dogs for walks in the streets, on sidewalks or the "woods" on a path in NJ. (THAT NJ path was nice).

Proof that not everyone is self centered and rude. I put around 75 dollars a month just in chemicals and treatments on our lawn. It looks good for a reason. It sure as heck isn’t for a doggy toilet.

[Velvet]

Oh my, I think I best not wade into the astonishing amount of denial on this thread. In the 21st century, I wouldn't have guessed it would still be running so deep.

--- Signed, Child whose father died (brain cancer) 20 years sooner than he should have because of the KNOWN (to management) cancer-producing chemicals being pumped into the air and water where he worked.

Their complicity, eventually, resulted in the largest class action lawsuit in American history.

(But, you all keep making fun of exposure to chemicals primarily policed only by the chemical producers themselves. SMH!)

I am sorry about you father. I understand how painful this is for you, I think.

When it comes to “denial” about chemicals, you’ve heard of the boy who cried “Wolf!” too often. Most people are not chemical researchers. They hear this and then they hear the opposite from another source. It is hard to know who to believe.

Nature kills you, natural things kill you. Who invented tuberculosis, malaria, think of any disease? Most occur naturally in places where there are no chemical industries to blame in the first place. Why is life expectancy so much shorter in countries with very little industrialization?

Then there is individual sensitivity, look at peanuts, for example. People with peanut energy can die from just breathing them. But peanuts serve as nourishment to many others. So should peanuts be banned from the many on the basis of the very few truly allergic? The answers vary.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Interesting....so we want to lay the blame at the feet of ‘chemical producers’ only. Lawn and garden treatments....how about when you go to a Publix and buy your GMO produced, antibiotic and steroid laden foods....and $6 foot longs .....shop at and brush your teeth with Chinese toothpaste from Dollar Tree...fill your FDA approved BioPharma produced poisons....errr prescriptions at CVS.....see where I’m going with this?
We’re all touched by cancer in our circle of family and friends.....but we’re all ‘complicit’ under your definitions if you choose one of the above for convenience and economics vs doing what’s right across the board?(impossible).....and ranting about what others do as if you’re practicing a totally holistic existence, is less than candid on its face. Public shaming rarely moves the needle.

[MightyDog]

Well said MightyDog, thank you. Just this week there was a story about more and more young people getting cancer. My husband has to see a hematologist monthly, at his appointment this past week there were two very young men with brain tumors waiting for treatment.
Thanks. There has been a stunning rise in cancers (many of them of a turbo nature) in the last three years.

It is widely documented and, yes, many people much younger than typical are getting them -- as well as heart inflammation problems (myocarditis). It is not a mystery as to why this is happening - it's just that there is deep denial about that as well. Because many people were directly and repeatedly exposed to those specific chemicals in the past three years and they now live in fear, understandably.

Look, I'm a freedom lover and defender. If people want to slave over their lawns, so be it. But, I do particularly find denial irritating and to believe that routinely dousing your own property in strong chemicals doesn't affect others it simply nuts. Rain and the run-off it produces sends those chemicals to many other properties. Wind factors too. That is reality.

Fwiw, I'll mention reading about the recent results of a study about possible triggers of ALS (hideous, fatal disease). The study found a higher ratio of people who developed ALS were gardeners and professional athletes of sports played on lawns. The possible conclusion being that it was because of the extra exposure to chemicals being used. Not crazy. Articles about that study can be found online.

[Normal]

Thanks. There has been a stunning rise in cancers (many of them of a turbo nature) in the last three years.

It is widely documented and, yes, many people much younger than typical are getting them -- as well as heart inflammation problems (myocarditis). It is not a mystery as to why this is happening - it's just that there is deep denial about that as well. Because many people were directly and repeatedly exposed to those specific chemicals in the past three years and they now live in fear, understandably.

Look, I'm a freedom lover and defender. If people want to slave over their lawns, so be it. But, I do particularly find denial irritating and to believe that routinely dousing your own property in strong chemicals doesn't affect others it simply nuts. Rain and the run-off it produces sends those chemicals to many other properties. Wind factors too. That is reality.

Fwiw, I'll mention reading about the recent results of a study about possible triggers of ALS (hideous, fatal disease). The study found a higher ratio of people who developed ALS were gardeners and professional athletes of sports played on lawns. The possible conclusion being that it was because of the extra exposure to chemicals being used. Not crazy. Articles about that study can be found online.

Nothing can be done. If you get your irrigation water from a retention pond, you get all sorts of chemicals from that pond, not just immediate run off. Roads adjacent carry water off the street into the ponds. Hence, when those sprinklers turn on for your lawn, you get it all. Your lawn is doused in street run off, pesticide etc and there is no control on what you get on that grass of yours.

[MightyDog]

Nothing can be done. If you get your irrigation water from a retention pond, you get all sorts of chemicals from that pond, not just immediate run off. Roads adjacent carry water off the street into the ponds. Hence, when those sprinklers turn on for your lawn, you get it all. Your lawn is doused in street run off, pesticide etc and there is no control on what you get on that grass of yours.
Understood. So, let us all not be in-denial of the exposure itself and the large amount of it.

Then, we all can make our own choices about how to live accordingly.

[Byte1]

I have my lawn treated with chemicals to keep the establishment and neighbors off my back by having a decent looking yard. I pay for pest control and they spray around my home to keep millions of bugs out of my house. Without chemicals, we would all be either paying a fortune for food because there would be a lot less to go around. We use chemicals to treat our water to kill harmful germs and parasites. They spray chemicals in The Villages at night to kill harmful mosquitoes. I respect the Amish and their way of life, but that life is not for me.
Like someone else said, rather than complain to me about chemicals in my yard, just stay off my property and we will both be happier.

[Boffin]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

Other people’s animals health and well being is their problem and responsibility not mine.

[vlm790]

Keep your dog off my property. And if your dog is in your bed and on your furniture that’s your problem!

[Velvet]

Understood. So, let us all not be in-denial of the exposure itself and the large amount of it.

Then, we all can make our own choices about how to live accordingly.

Absolutely, and what is preventing you from living somewhere in the mountains hundreds of miles from where people may be using chemicals you don’t approve of?

[MightyDog]

Absolutely, and what is preventing you from living somewhere in the mountains hundreds of miles from where people may be using chemicals you don’t approve of?
Massive reading comprehension fail. That occurs too often on these threads and I don't get why. Some people aren't very clear in their writing but, I go out of my way to be exceedingly so. And I have been here.

The percentage of uninformed, in-denial and, frankly, selfish types is very unfortunate. All about Old #1. Some things never change.

[vintageogauge]

Massive reading comprehension fail. That occurs too often on these threads and I don't get why. Some people aren't very clear in their writing but, I go out of my way to be exceedingly so. And I have been here.

The percentage of uninformed, in-denial and, frankly, selfish types is very unfortunate. All about Old #1. Some things never change.

I think most of us on this forum are beyond the age where we have to worry about premature death. We lived through decades from the 40's until today with exposure to all kinds of chemicals in our food, the air, and water. Some from our generation died young, most have not and genetics has a lot to do with it also. I know several families, including my own, that have had multiple generational deaths due to a specific type of cancer.

[MplsPete]

...resulted in the largest class action lawsuit in American history.
...


When I see something like that I immediately google What was the largest class action lawsuit in American history? 1998, Philip Morris, RJ Reynolds, etc., $206 billion. Tobacco settlement. Just saying.

And, while we're on the topic of danger, I started reading a book called Overpowered. Haven't finished it yet, but the author, who seems very well educated, says there are many scientific studies demonstrating that electromagnetic radiation (i.e., cell phones) is harmful.

Ever hear of Green Bank, WV? People move there to escape pesky radio signals.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

1. Anyone worried about pesticides and weed killers on other peoples' lawns, should stop letting their dogs walk on other peoples' lawns.
2. Anyone worried about it on their own lawns, can have a talk with their landscaper/pest control person, OR do the work themselves with non-toxic substances (or by hand). There are plenty of ways to kill fire ants, weevils, aphids, cockroaches, and weeds, that don't involve Monsanto.
3. Encourage, rather than shame, others into weeding their own flower-beds by hand. It can be a very rewarding activity if you're physically capable of repeat bending/standing for an hour every week.
4. Encourage people to leave the bugs in the garden alone. If they're in the garden, it means they're not in your house.

[LuvNH]

I don't think it is possible to live in Florida, or the South, without using treatments of some kind or another. There is, of course, a natural way of keeping bugs out of your home and yard and that means you have snakes and spiders. I am very aware of the chemicals and I am also very wary of snakes and spiders, so I take the easy way out and have my property treated and hope like hell that I am too tough to succumb to some dreadful sickness in my dotage. However, I have watched the begging infomercials from the children's hospitals and have thought that there are so many young children with cancer and you name it.

[Velvet]

Massive reading comprehension fail. That occurs too often on these threads and I don't get why. Some people aren't very clear in their writing but, I go out of my way to be exceedingly so. And I have been here.

The percentage of uninformed, in-denial and, frankly, selfish types is very unfortunate. All about Old #1. Some things never change.

Well you are entitled to your opinion, just as the rest of us are.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I don't think it is possible to live in Florida, or the South, without using treatments of some kind or another. There is, of course, a natural way of keeping bugs out of your home and yard and that means you have snakes and spiders. I am very aware of the chemicals and I am also very wary of snakes and spiders, so I take the easy way out and have my property treated and hope like hell that I am too tough to succumb to some dreadful sickness in my dotage. However, I have watched the begging infomercials from the children's hospitals and have thought that there are so many young children with cancer and you name it.

So - the insecticide doesn't prevent insects from being there. It just kills them after the fact. So you have some dead insects. Easy pickings for spiders, which now are poisoned by the poisoned dead insects. Snakes don't eat insects, or spiders. But they do eat mice and other rodents, birds, occasionally lizards, and they consider turtle eggs a delicacy. Many of THOSE things will eat dead insects. And then THEY will be poisoned by those poisoned dead insects. And then the snakes will be poisoned by the poisoned dead rodents, birds, and tainted eggs. And then the birds of prey and carrion birds such as hawks and vultures will eat those snakes, and become poisoned. And then - and then - and then - until the food chain has to rely on Monsanto to fix all the problems that they caused by poisoning the food chain.

We can't prevent it without going back to the 1700's, and devolution is bad (contrary to popular belief). But we can each play some small part in delaying the inevitable conclusion. Weeding your garden by hand is one small thing many people can do. Learning to live with snakes and spiders in your own garden is another small thing many people can do. Planting flowers and herbs that attract pollinators is another small thing many people can do. Using natural fertilizer is another thing. Finding some organic food that you enjoy, and supporting that instead of supporting mega-farms that thrive on chemicals is another thing. Buying eggs from local small farmers instead of egg factories that torture their chickens is another thing.

If everyone picked one thing they could improve on, it'd make a big impact.

[Topspinmo]

Not saying I totally disagree but Attorneys might dispute this.......


Roundup Settlement: 2024 Roundup Weed Killer Settlement Updates (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.drugwatch.com/legal/roundup-settlements/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjBo6r7reWFAxX7hIkEHewdBncQFnoECAEQAw&usg=AOvVaw39NJLyOhQkQW098KJp0Y81)

Attorneys would sue wooden Indian if they thought they could get wooden nickel. :highfive:

[Topspinmo]

Some people should have stayed in apartments. Can’t handle owning property.:)

[dhdallas]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

Better living through chemicals is my motto!

[fdpaq0580]

May want to stay out of my lawn then. It’s loaded with all kinds of things. But then I’m sure you aren’t one of the rude ones who lets their dog into my corner lot. Respect my hard work on the lawn and your animal has no problems. I do spray all the way up to the curb too.

Same here. Gotta keep my weeds green. The grass never had a chance.

[Lea N]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

There are natural lawn care options but I can't tell you from recent experience how they work. I can tell you about 15 years ago we used a non toxic bug spray on our yard that smelled like cloves. It worked for a while. We had dogs at the time. The yard smelled so good afterward. But then it wasn't working as well. Maybe now there are better or improved options, I'm not sure. For weeds some people use vinegar but it can kill other plants and grass if sprayed on them.

There are many natural cleaners today. I like Mrs. Meyers cleaning products. They are available at Walmart. I've used their laundry detergent and household cleaner. Both smell so good. Try Amazon, or a google search for other natural and organic cleaners. Some people use vinegar for cleaning. I use alcohol or peroxide to clean mirrors. Peroxide in sink areas and fixtures in the bathroom. But be careful with peroxide, read up on it. I do use bleach but not as heavily as I used to.

Houseplants help clean the air in your home, as would an air filter.

I know this doesn't change the world, but it can help your little corner a bit.

EDIT: I get everything on-line. I don't know if Walmart has Mrs. Meyers products in store or only on-line.

[PhilG]

We're all going to die, chicken little.
Please be aware, these chemicals have been specifically reviewed by the EPA, in context of tests relevant to carcinogenesis, birth defects etc. etc. etc.
Part of the Villages appeal is the presentation - trees/flowers/lawns - and this is maintained by both labor and chemicals. If you're so worried, you should not be in the Villages..

[Berwin]

In walking my dog, I have noted quite a few dead baby snakes lying along the curb. No apparent injuries. I can only surmise that the amount of pesticides we put on our lawns (myself included) plays a part. Biomagnification in action.

[aldeana]

I never use those toxins, they are overkill. Use garden grade (30%) vinegar, available at Home Depot, and if not on store shelves, by special order arriving within a few days. Thanks for bringing this up!

[Kelevision]

May want to stay out of my lawn then. It’s loaded with all kinds of things. But then I’m sure you aren’t one of the rude ones who lets their dog into my corner lot. Respect my hard work on the lawn and your animal has no problems. I do spray all the way up to the curb too.

Thank goodness you’re one who takes care of their corner lot. Most in my neighborhood could use some dog poop to hide all the weeds the corner owners don’t seem to care about. Also, thankfully my neighborhood picks up after their dogs and everyone knows everyone! I also like butterflies so I’d never use that horrific cancer killer roundup.

[lwmilo]

Perhaps walking your pet in YOUR OWN PRISTINE YARD , might be a somewhat a solution. Looking from an another point of view,

[Girlcopper]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.
Stay off other peoples property. Don’t let your animals in your home until you scrub them down. Easy peasy. lol.

[golfing eagles]

Saran Wrap party? Violates the Loufer Code in deed restrictions!

I don't see where it is excluded :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[PhilG]

For those suffering pernicious chemophobia, relocate to a sterilized cave in a remote desert, HEPA filter your air and use a reverse osmosis system for your water. Hydroponic vegies and trap passing varmints for your meat. Stay out of the sun!

[rherb55]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

There are 2 suggestions…. 1.keep your pet off of people’s lawn or 2. Put booties on your pets paws…..

[RustyandEthel]

https://youtu.be/pnuzEbz4hXw?si=J4gXwY-0m6pvg25B

[Ponygirl]

Yes too many poisons and toxic products - don’t forget pesticides on food

There are non toxic alternative weed killer and lawn care products

Sold both at Home Depot and Lowe’s. Vinegar and or salt base. Both work great Weeds dead same day

I try to reduce health risks for me and my community by always looking for alternatives to deadly chemicals

[spexdr]

Can’t believe so many people responded with snide comments. This would be a better forum if they responded to the issue instead of trying to be rude or sarcastic or what they think is funny.

[DiandJay]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.
Since purchasing our home 6 years ago, I’ve limited the amount of poisons sprayed directly into the garden areas. Some plant diseases really resist neem oils and other not so toxic products so I’ve lost them consequently. My MIL taught me early on; if you have to use a lot of chemicals to help your plants survive, let them die and plant those that are more hardy.
We do spot spay the lawn and trees when we really have to. It isn’t possible to wait out the cycle of infestation and nature’s response here in TV without being unsightly. As for the lawn, you can change it out to a more natural landscape perhaps? Good luck.

[lottimeier]

I'm truly grateful you brought this up. It's not only affecting our animals; these harmful chemicals are also leaching into our water and air. I'm actively on the lookout for alternative, eco-friendly fertilizers for my lawn and appreciate any advice.

On a related note, rather than using toxic sprays, I've opted for old-fashioned and cost-effective Harris Boric Acid Roach Tablets, and I've hardly spotted any roaches in my house.

[RRGuyNJ]

I hear all this stuff about The Villages being a "Dog friendly Community". Boy oh boy, reading things here I can see that is definitely not the case. I see a few dogs here and there but not a huge population by any means. I guess when you want to exercise a dog you carry them to your car, drive 37.2 miles away to a rare area with 0 population, let them get their exercise then return.

[waterflower]

Too many people don't care about the internal self. When one doesn't care about the damage these forever chemicals do to every living being, it's a true testament to the demise of humanity. Oh but I have a perfect looking lawn and cancer.

[airstreamingypsy]

I agree, too many chemicals are used for stupid lawns. I read that article yesterday and thought about all the animals that eat grass, and walk on it, like Gopher Tortoises. It's sad that so many here thought attacking the OP was the way to go. The poisons go into lakes and waterways. Forget snakes, coyotes, gators....humans are the deadliest animal in Florida.

[sallyg]

What's up with all the negativity?

[Two Bills]

I hear all this stuff about The Villages being a "Dog friendly Community". Boy oh boy, reading things here I can see that is definitely not the case. I see a few dogs here and there but not a huge population by any means. I guess when you want to exercise a dog you carry them to your car, drive 37.2 miles away to a rare area with 0 population, let them get their exercise then return.

I think most Villagers are very dog friendly, it's the irresponsible dog owners that are the problem.

[Sheri]

When I moved here in January of 2023 I was told I absolutely had to have a pest control company for inside my home and outside or I’d be overrun with various insects. I was also told I needed to hire a company to fertilize my lawn and spray for weeds and insects. Coming from CT, I had no experience or knowledge but I knew one thing for certain… I’m not spraying chemicals inside or outside my home if I can avoid it! So what did I do? I spoke with Master Gardeners from the University of Florida and attended the classes they offer locally. I found a very knowledgeable woman named Lisa Sanderson and she has graciously guided me over the past year. Has it been challenging? Absolutely! Has it been time consuming? Most definitely! However, my lawn looks amazing and I’ve successfully dealt with a few nests of Palmetto bugs (which I absolutely despise), sugar ants and aphids. Diatomaceous earth, Borax and powdered sugar work wonders and are non-toxic. I also ordered traps from Amazon that helped as well. I planted numerous pollinator plants in my gardens to help support the bees, butterfly’s etc. My lawn and gardens are flourishing and I’m incredibly happy to be successful when I was repeatedly told it couldn’t be done.

[retiredguy123]

Regarding Roundup, just because a smart attorney convinces 12 stupid jurors that a product causes cancer doesn't mean that it does. Where is the bona fide research to prove it?

[Sheri]

All very valid points and we’ll written - I want to be your friend!

[NoMoSno]

When I moved here in January of 2023 I was told I absolutely had to have a pest control company for inside my home and outside or I’d be overrun with various insects. I was also told I needed to hire a company to fertilize my lawn and spray for weeds and insects. Coming from CT, I had no experience or knowledge but I knew one thing for certain… I’m not spraying chemicals inside or outside my home if I can avoid it! So what did I do? I spoke with Master Gardeners from the University of Florida and attended the classes they offer locally. I found a very knowledgeable woman named Lisa Sanderson and she has graciously guided me over the past year. Has it been challenging? Absolutely! Has it been time consuming? Most definitely! However, my lawn looks amazing and I’ve successfully dealt with a few nests of Palmetto bugs (which I absolutely despise), sugar ants and aphids. Diatomaceous earth, Borax and powdered sugar work wonders and are non-toxic. I also ordered traps from Amazon that helped as well. I planted numerous pollinator plants in my gardens to help support the bees, butterfly’s etc. My lawn and gardens are flourishing and I’m incredibly happy to be successful when I was repeatedly told it couldn’t be done.
What is your recommendation for controlling Dollarweed in your lawn?

[Joe C.]

Chemicals aren't "evil". They just need to be used responsibly.
IMHO, life causes death. Can't have one without the other. How long we live depends on how well we navigate through our life by the choices we do or don't make, and of course our genetic makeup.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I hear all this stuff about The Villages being a "Dog friendly Community". Boy oh boy, reading things here I can see that is definitely not the case. I see a few dogs here and there but not a huge population by any means. I guess when you want to exercise a dog you carry them to your car, drive 37.2 miles away to a rare area with 0 population, let them get their exercise then return.

I don’t read it that way at all. It’s responsible vs irresponsible....respect vs disrespect.....my lawn is your (dogs) lawn. There are plenty of dog parks and ‘amenities’ for your fur baby....if they don’t meet your criteria, enjoy the road trip.

[Erider]

Proof that not everyone is self centered and rude. I put around 75 dollars a month just in chemicals and treatments on our lawn. It looks good for a reason. It sure as heck isn’t for a doggy toilet.

Make sure that the rats, squirrels, birds, bobcats, racoons etc get notified because they are happily pooping and peeing on your lawn every day.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

When I moved here in January of 2023 I was told I absolutely had to have a pest control company for inside my home and outside or I’d be overrun with various insects. I was also told I needed to hire a company to fertilize my lawn and spray for weeds and insects. Coming from CT, I had no experience or knowledge but I knew one thing for certain… I’m not spraying chemicals inside or outside my home if I can avoid it! So what did I do? I spoke with Master Gardeners from the University of Florida and attended the classes they offer locally. I found a very knowledgeable woman named Lisa Sanderson and she has graciously guided me over the past year. Has it been challenging? Absolutely! Has it been time consuming? Most definitely! However, my lawn looks amazing and I’ve successfully dealt with a few nests of Palmetto bugs (which I absolutely despise), sugar ants and aphids. Diatomaceous earth, Borax and powdered sugar work wonders and are non-toxic. I also ordered traps from Amazon that helped as well. I planted numerous pollinator plants in my gardens to help support the bees, butterfly’s etc. My lawn and gardens are flourishing and I’m incredibly happy to be successful when I was repeatedly told it couldn’t be done.

I keep a bag of diatomaceous earth on the lanai for those rare bursts of "crazy ant" activity in the house. The best thing about it, is it doesn't ever expire. It's basically inert clay powder. It's also good for the soil, if you have significant fire ant hills. Just dump a teaspoon's worth into the hole in the hill, and sprinkle another tablespoon around the hill. The ants dehydrate and die, their exoskeletons fertilize the area, and the clay restores the soil balance, all of which allows the grass to return to the previously-stripped hill.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I agree, too many chemicals are used for stupid lawns. I read that article yesterday and thought about all the animals that eat grass, and walk on it, like Gopher Tortoises. It's sad that so many here thought attacking the OP was the way to go. The poisons go into lakes and waterways. Forget snakes, coyotes, gators....humans are the deadliest animal in Florida.

Just for comparison, how long have ‘snakes, coyotes, gators’ been on our planet.....and they have the ‘We’re still here’ t shirts to prove it. Only dinosaurs have suffered that distinction or extinction. Humanity and the animals that surround it always figure it out....and coexist!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

What is your recommendation for controlling Dollarweed in your lawn?

Don't control it. You could, instead, do two possible things:

1. You can mow it along with the rest of the "crap they pretend is grass and call a lawn" here in Florida. From a distance, no one will know the difference. It's the same color green as St. Augustine.

2. Go 100% organic, with zero pesticides on your lawn, and then harvest the dollarweed (also known as pennywort). You can stir-fry it with shallots and add to a savory dish, or even nibble on it raw. It's been used for centuries to lower blood pressure, and has a slightly bitter, spicy flavor to it. Leaf and stem, 100% edible. UNLESS you use pesticides.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Can’t wait for the chlorinated vs salt water pool threads. Just want to cross reference and take attendance! Smh

[MightyDog]

Just for comparison, how long have ‘snakes, coyotes, gators’ been on our planet.....and they have the ‘We’re still here’ t shirts to prove it. Only dinosaurs have suffered that distinction or extinction. Humanity and the animals that surround it always figure it out....and coexist!
Yes, humanity and animals just "figure it out". Tell that to the many millions of each group who have died from the naivete and ignorance of the public and the unbridled greed of multinational corporations who don't give a flip about poisoning.

Do some reading: Silent Spring - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Spring)

As a vivid illustration of those points ^^, enjoy these charming retro images: https://www.reddit.com/r/70s/comments/14ecyrg/man_we_were_stupid_chasing_the_mosquito_truck_in/

[NoMoSno]

Don't control it. You could, instead, do two possible things:

1. You can mow it along with the rest of the "crap they pretend is grass and call a lawn" here in Florida. From a distance, no one will know the difference. It's the same color green as St. Augustine.

2. Go 100% organic, with zero pesticides on your lawn, and then harvest the dollarweed (also known as pennywort). You can stir-fry it with shallots and add to a savory dish, or even nibble on it raw. It's been used for centuries to lower blood pressure, and has a slightly bitter, spicy flavor to it. Leaf and stem, 100% edible. UNLESS you use pesticides.
Are grubs also edible?

[LGKyler]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.

We spray our weeds with commercial grade vinegar from Lowe’s or Amazon. Works especially well in rock beds , patio, driveway. Just be careful not to spray on a windy day as it will kill or damage whatever it touches. NO MORE ROUNDUP!!!

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Are grubs also edible? they sure are ,you would no that if you ever went to Ranger School LOL

[NoMoSno]

they sure are ,you would no that if you ever went to Ranger School LOL
Also raw rabbit eye balls are good protein.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Also raw rabbit eye balls are good protein.

PETA alert!
Can someone let J Lo know her mittens are ready!*


*paraphrasing an old comedian Nick Dipaolo joke

[Sudbrink]

The topic of glyphosate and its potential link to cancer has been a subject of extensive research and debate. Here’s a summary of the evidence and positions from various health agencies:
Studies and Legal Challenges: Glyphosate, an active ingredient in many herbicides, has been the subject of many studies and legal challenges regarding its potential to cause cancer, specifically non-Hodgkin lymphoma1.
Conflicting Research: While some studies, like one from the University of Washington in 2019, suggest that using glyphosate increases the risk of non-Hodgkin lymphoma by 41%2, the majority of research worldwide has found no connection between glyphosate and cancer risk.
Health Agencies’ Stance:
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) states there is "no evidence that glyphosate causes cancer in humans"1.
Health Canada reports that glyphosate does not cause damage to human DNA1.
The European Food Safety Authority did not identify any critical areas of concern regarding glyphosate1.
The Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicine Authority considers glyphosate products safe when label instructions are followed1.
However, the World Health Organization’s International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) classified glyphosate as “probably carcinogenic to humans” in 20151.
Recent Findings: A study published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute found that high levels of glyphosate in urine were associated with signs of oxidative stress, a condition that can cause damage to DNA and is considered a key characteristic of carcinogens3.
It’s important to note that the research is ongoing, and while there are studies that suggest a potential link, the consensus among most health agencies is that there is no definitive evidence that glyphosate causes cancer. The debate continues as new research emerges.

[fdpaq0580]

It's all for naught, if you don't wrap your head in tin foil.

Belittling those with genuine environmental concerns helps in what way??

[fdpaq0580]

Chemicals aren't "evil". They just need to be used responsibly.
IMHO, life causes death. Can't have one without the other. How long we live depends on how well we navigate through our life by the choices we do or don't make, and of course our genetic makeup.

Having a healthy and friendly environment helps.

[fdpaq0580]

What is your recommendation for controlling Dollarweed in your lawn?

Hard work on hands and knees digging it out?

[Two Bills]

Yes, humanity and animals just "figure it out". Tell that to the many millions of each group who have died from the naivete and ignorance of the public and the unbridled greed of multinational corporations who don't give a flip about poisoning.

Do some reading: Silent Spring - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Spring)

As a vivid illustration of those points ^^, enjoy these charming retro images: https://www.reddit.com/r/70s/comments/14ecyrg/man_we_were_stupid_chasing_the_mosquito_truck_in/

I remember the DDT "everywhere" period in UK. We had strips in the house, 'Flit Guns' for spraying any flying bug venturing within range, and the garden looked like white flour grading festival gone mad!

My wife and I have drastically altered our pest and disease control in our garden over the years.
Butterflies and bees are rapidly in decline here from pesticides etc. Nothing like the numbers from my formative years.
We have turned to hand weeding, companion planting, and most plants are bee and butterfly friendly. Most aphids, black and green flies etc can be removed by hand.
Hard work at times, but just a little payback from us for the damage we caused in ignorance years ago.

[Velvet]

I hear all this stuff about The Villages being a "Dog friendly Community". Boy oh boy, reading things here I can see that is definitely not the case. I see a few dogs here and there but not a huge population by any means. I guess when you want to exercise a dog you carry them to your car, drive 37.2 miles away to a rare area with 0 population, let them get their exercise then return.

Well, on my street more than half owners have dogs. But what they don’t do, is let their dogs go on other people’s property, or when grand kids come. They wait for an invitation. If you don’t think that is necessary, you’re in the wrong place.

[fdpaq0580]

Chemicals aren't "evil". They just need to be used responsibly.
IMHO, life causes death. Can't have one without the other. How long we live depends on how well we navigate through our life by the choices we do or don't make, and of course our genetic makeup.

"Evil"? Neither are guns, knives, baseball bat's, etc. But, what one uses them for, might be considered "evil". Or, just foolish or unwise.

[NoMoSno]

Hard work on hands and knees digging it out?
A blanket app of Celsius WG works better.

[Shipping up to Boston]

"Evil"? Neither are guns, knives, baseball bat's, etc. But, what one uses them for, might be considered "evil". Or, just foolish or unwise.

F Pak.....remember when I responded to a similar post by you...you know the ‘West Side Story’ one? I hope the admins have seen I’ve learned!

[fdpaq0580]

Make sure that the rats, squirrels, birds, bobcats, racoons etc get notified because they are happily pooping and peeing on your lawn every day.

Seldom see that or any evidence of wild animals doing that. Also,comparing wild life activity to human guided is disingenious, at least, and no justification for misuse of someone else's yard/lawn as a toilet for one's bad, disrespectful behavior.

[fdpaq0580]

Don't control it. You could, instead, do two possible things:

1. You can mow it along with the rest of the "crap they pretend is grass and call a lawn" here in Florida. From a distance, no one will know the difference. It's the same color green as St. Augustine.

2. Go 100% organic, with zero pesticides on your lawn, and then harvest the dollarweed (also known as pennywort). You can stir-fry it with shallots and add to a savory dish, or even nibble on it raw. It's been used for centuries to lower blood pressure, and has a slightly bitter, spicy flavor to it. Leaf and stem, 100% edible. UNLESS you use pesticides.

Like suggestion 2. But, not after the neighborhood dogs have used it.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Who came here knowing it would always come back to ‘dog poop’!

[fdpaq0580]

For those suffering pernicious chemophobia, relocate to a sterilized cave in a remote desert, HEPA filter your air and use a reverse osmosis system for your water. Hydroponic vegies and trap passing varmints for your meat. Stay out of the sun!

Trapping passing varmints could share diseases and/or parasites. Not so good.
Air filter can work anywhere.
A modern home can be made as sterile as a cave. Same with house water.
Hydroponic gardening can be done right here.
No one really needs to move unless they want to.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Trapping passing varmints could share diseases and/or parasites. Not so good.
Air filter can work anywhere.
A modern home can be made as sterile as a cave. Same with house water.
Hydroponic gardening can be done right here.
No one really needs to move unless they want to.

‘Hydroponic’.....you can say it. Weed!

[fdpaq0580]

What's up with all the negativity?

Just something to talk about. Can't have a good conversation unless there is a difference of opinion. (For reference, see Monty Python's "argument clinic" sketch. )

[fdpaq0580]

A blanket app of Celsius WG works better.

Maybe so. But think of the great workout you will miss out on, and all the neighbors you won't meet when they bring their dogs by to crap on your lawn. Think of the fun you will miss.

[MightyDog]

I doubt anyone thinks dumping tons of man-made chemicals into the environment is a good thing. The question is really: How much damage are we doing"?

The answer, like most things, is probably at neither extreme----somewhere between "Chicken Little, the sky is falling" and "No big deal, just ignore it".
Well, 100% exactly, Eagles. Why is that simple conclusion so difficult for so many?

Yes, we need some of these things in the modern era but, the questions of how much and what is too much should always be on the table. It should be an ongoing public discussion and learning process.

Here's another ugly one: Agent Orange - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange)
Back in the 80s in the office where I worked, over the span of few years, three men in their 40s developed aggressive cancers and died. All three were Vietnam vets.

The office manager, a man about 10 - 12 years older than they, and who had not served in Vietnam, stated with amazement, "I can't help but wonder if their exposure to Agent Orange is what caused cancer in all of them. Cancer at that age is not typical."

[fdpaq0580]

F Pak.....remember when I responded to a similar post by you...you know the ‘West Side Story’ one? I hope the admins have seen I’ve learned!

We all learn! Every day, in every way, we are getting better and better (whether we know it or not! ).
🫠🙃🫨😃

[fdpaq0580]

‘Hydroponic’.....you can say it. Weed!

If you want. Actually, I was thinking "tomatoes ".

[golfing eagles]

Well, 100% exactly, Eagles. Why is that simple conclusion so difficult for so many?

Yes, we need some of these things in the modern era but, the questions of how much and what is too much should always be on the table. It should be an ongoing public discussion and learning process.

Here's another ugly one: Agent Orange - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange)
Back in the 80s in the office where I worked, over the span of few years, three men in their 40s developed aggressive cancers and died. All three were Vietnam vets.

The office manager, a man about 10 - 12 years older than they, and who had not served in Vietnam, stated with amazement, "I can't help but wonder if their exposure to Agent Orange is what caused cancer in all of them. Cancer at that age is not typical."

And my brother, who served in DaNang and some jungle died of lung cancer at age 62. It must have been agent orange. Unless it was the 2 packs/day of Marlboro since age 16

[Shipping up to Boston]

If you want. Actually, I was thinking "tomatoes ".

Is that what they call it now?! Those silly ‘designers!

[Shipping up to Boston]

And my brother, who served in DaNang and some jungle died of lung cancer at age 62. It must have been agent orange. Unless it was the 2 packs/day of Marlboro since age 16

You had me GE....you almost had me! ;)

[jimjamuser]

So many times I read how residents just spray, pour, paint, spread glyphosate, roundup, and other horrible stuff all over the place. And then our animals walk over the walkways/grass and carry it into our homes on their paws, onto the furniture and beds....... Then they lick their paws to clean them. Does anyone think about alternatives? No wonder there is so much cancer, allergies, stiffness, etc. Anyone have better options for lawn care, cleaning, etc.? Thanks.
You can use vinegar to kill weeds. And there is a stronger version of regular vinegar which would kill them faster.

[jimjamuser]

Oh my, I think I best not wade into the astonishing amount of denial on this thread. In the 21st century, I wouldn't have guessed it would still be running so deep.

--- Signed, Child whose father died (brain cancer) 20 years sooner than he should have because of the KNOWN (to management - DuPont) cancer-producing chemicals being pumped into the air and water where he worked.

Their complicity, eventually, resulted in one of the largest class action lawsuit in American history because 1000s were killed or seriously harmed by those known carcinogens.

(But, you all keep making fun of exposure to chemicals primarily policed only by the chemical producers themselves. SMH!)
I HAD a friend that died earlier than he probably should. He thought that his illness was the result of working for Motorola and being exposed to chemicals in cell phone batteries. No way to definitively prove it.

[MightyDog]

And my brother, who served in DaNang and some jungle died of lung cancer at age 62. It must have been agent orange. Unless it was the 2 packs/day of Marlboro since age 16
Well, in fact, it could have been both that contributed to his cancer, you see? Both are known carcinogens.

Which brings us back around to your prior point of "how much is too much" and what cumulative affects are created? It is really THE question.

I recall a quick story that ties into that. About 25 yrs ago, my brother had a terrible gnat problem in his finished basement. He tried many things, incl pro pest control, I think. Finally, he decided he had to fog the basement. (Those insect foggers are nasty but, they do work).

Not sure how many times he did it but, knowing him, he probably didn't follow the directions carefully. You have to cover all the furniture with sheets and set the thing off when you're leaving the house for at least 2 days. Upon returning, carefully gather the sheets and put them in a HOT wash cycle. Then, thoroughly vacuum or mop the entire floor, clean window sills, etc. You do all that b/c there is carcinogenic dust everywhere.

Well, some months after he did the fogging, his 4 year old dog got cancer, malignant, got the tumor removed but, it grew back and she died at 4 1/2 yrs old. Even he later said, "I wonder if it was the diazinon that was in those foggers." She probably inhaled plenty of that dust and maybe licked it off her paws if he didn't clean up well.

Hhmm, how about that: diazinon is now outlawed for residential use in the USA since 2004 because of human health risks. Diazinon - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diazinon#)

[jimjamuser]

Nothing can be done. If you get your irrigation water from a retention pond, you get all sorts of chemicals from that pond, not just immediate run off. Roads adjacent carry water off the street into the ponds. Hence, when those sprinklers turn on for your lawn, you get it all. Your lawn is doused in street run off, pesticide etc and there is no control on what you get on that grass of yours.
Personally I think that in the last 10 years there is MORE fertilizer run-off into the smaller drainage lakes. This causes MORE of the underwater grass (like fresh water seaweed) to grow than I remember from 10 years ago. Has anyone else come to that conclusion ?

[fdpaq0580]

who came here knowing it would always come back to ‘dog poop’!

me! 😉

[Pamelaripp]

We are still looking for more natural ways of keeping weed out of our lawn. I got tired of paying someone to use chemicals that are not good for pets or wildlife in to kill weeds in our landscaping. I have found a couple of solutions for weeds around our bushes, in driveway cracks and in pavered patios. Boiling water will kill weeds. I have a special teapot that heats up fast and is in an isulated carafe that won't burn me! Just don't put boiling water on anything you DO want to grow in your yard. The other thing I use is a long handled adjustable propane blow torch. Again, you can spot kill all of the weeds in your landscaped beds in a very short time. Just walk around your house once a week and spot burn them. They often times do not grow back. Be careful not to start a fire and keep a big bucket of water or a hose handy.

[HORNET]

Keep you animals off of my yard, I have a yard service and use the side walks

[NoMoSno]

We are still looking for more natural ways of keeping weed out of our lawn. I got tired of paying someone to use chemicals that are not good for pets or wildlife in to kill weeds in our landscaping. I have found a couple of solutions for weeds around our bushes, in driveway cracks and in pavered patios. Boiling water will kill weeds. I have a special teapot that heats up fast and is in an isulated carafe that won't burn me! Just don't put boiling water on anything you DO want to grow in your yard. The other thing I use is a long handled adjustable propane blow torch. Again, you can spot kill all of the weeds in your landscaped beds in a very short time. Just walk around your house once a week and spot burn them. They often times do not grow back. Be careful not to start a fire and keep a big bucket of water or a hose handy.
What do you use to keep weeds out of your lawn?

[fdpaq0580]

What do you use to keep weeds out of your lawn?

The weeds ARE my lawn! All except the bare spots. Keep your dogs off my dirt and weeds. They disturb the fire ants, dag rabbit! 🤯🤬👺

[Shipping up to Boston]

We are still looking for more natural ways of keeping weed out of our lawn. I got tired of paying someone to use chemicals that are not good for pets or wildlife in to kill weeds in our landscaping. I have found a couple of solutions for weeds around our bushes, in driveway cracks and in pavered patios. Boiling water will kill weeds. I have a special teapot that heats up fast and is in an isulated carafe that won't burn me! Just don't put boiling water on anything you DO want to grow in your yard. The other thing I use is a long handled adjustable propane blow torch. Again, you can spot kill all of the weeds in your landscaped beds in a very short time. Just walk around your house once a week and spot burn them. They often times do not grow back. Be careful not to start a fire and keep a big bucket of water or a hose handy.

Please tell me youre not in a CYV!

[La lamy]

No lawn chemicals for me and it looks just fine. I agree that limiting those cancer causing products is important.

[E Cascade]

I am the person who wrote the original message on this post. I have been busy these past few days and so popped on today to see what ideas people had. I was SHOCKED to read all the nasty comments of "staying off my property", people who don't know or maybe don't care about chemicals and how they affect our health. I do have a dog who does run freely on my own TV property which is not treated with toxins. I eat mostly organic foods, wear mostly organic cotton, linen, wool, use vinegar, diatomaceous earth in my yard, weed by hand, take care of my own yard, try to work out daily, purify my water that I swallow, have had a house restoration business for 40+ years and work in the medical field also. I am very surprised by all the negativity, sarcasm, and nastiness that abounds on the "8" pages on this topic. I never thought people in TV were so grossly opinionated....... maybe need more to do. I don't know. I appreciate the ideas that some have posted and it's always good to share with those who just don't know. Wish you all a great day and for sharing your ideas.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I remember the DDT "everywhere" period in UK. We had strips in the house, 'Flit Guns' for spraying any flying bug venturing within range, and the garden looked like white flour grading festival gone mad!

My wife and I have drastically altered our pest and disease control in our garden over the years.
Butterflies and bees are rapidly in decline here from pesticides etc. Nothing like the numbers from my formative years.
We have turned to hand weeding, companion planting, and most plants are bee and butterfly friendly. Most aphids, black and green flies etc can be removed by hand.
Hard work at times, but just a little payback from us for the damage we caused in ignorance years ago.
I remember in the Summers as a kid in Boston when the DDT truck would come down the street and we used to run in and out of the spray cloud and with no front yards it just lofted up through the open windows of are homes . I sometimes wonder how many people must have there lifespan shortened because of it

[Shipping up to Boston]

I remember in the Summers as a kid in Boston when the DDT truck would come down the street and we used to run in and out of the spray cloud and with no front yards it just lofted up through the open windows of are homes . I sometimes wonder how many people must have there lifespan shortened because of it

Shout out 617!

Grew up on those same streets.
I'm sure you, like me and our siblings chewed on the lead based window sills when we were 'teething' too. We learn, educate ourselves and (what's lost on this thread)....make OUR OWN decisions going forward

[Topspinmo]

Chemicals aren't "evil". They just need to be used responsibly.
IMHO, life causes death. Can't have one without the other. How long we live depends on how well we navigate through our life by the choices we do or don't make, and of course our genetic makeup.

:BigApplause: Pass the twinkles :shocked:

[Topspinmo]

Well I guess being so busy leading such a clean life ,you didn’t have anytime left to acquire a sense of humor


:thumbup: Pass that joint my friend….:duck:

[Velvet]

I am the person who wrote the original message on this post. I have been busy these past few days and so popped on today to see what ideas people had. I was SHOCKED to read all the nasty comments of "staying off my property", people who don't know or maybe don't care about chemicals and how they affect our health. I do have a dog who does run freely on my own TV property which is not treated with toxins. I eat mostly organic foods, wear mostly organic cotton, linen, wool, use vinegar, diatomaceous earth in my yard, weed by hand, take care of my own yard, try to work out daily, purify my water that I swallow, have had a house restoration business for 40+ years and work in the medical field also. I am very surprised by all the negativity, sarcasm, and nastiness that abounds on the "8" pages on this topic. I never thought people in TV were so grossly opinionated....... maybe need more to do. I don't know. I appreciate the ideas that some have posted and it's always good to share with those who just don't know. Wish you all a great day and for sharing your ideas.

Thank you for keeping your dog(s) on your own property. As for clean living… none of us gets out of here alive. Maybe clean living could give us a few more years.

[fdpaq0580]

Thank you for keeping your dog(s) on your own property. As for clean living… none of us gets out of here alive. Maybe clean living could give us a few more years.

I don't just want a few more years. I want few more GOOD years. But, that's just me. 🙃🫠😉