Used cars

[Chandra10100]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?

[Two Bills]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?

Is your real ID Rip van Winkle?

[Shipping up to Boston]

Under 2K are usually dried out after their prior life as centerpieces at the bottom of a pond!

If youre still interested...FB Marketplace or CL (unfortunately). You get what you pay for i guess

[gatorbill1]

Yes

[village dreamer]

for 2k , your dream car will have 200k on the speedo and maybe one good fender. good luck .:gc:

[Stu from NYC]

for 2k , your dream car will have 200k on the speedo and maybe one good fender. good luck .:gc:

And bald tires with a transmission that is a shade of its former self.

Obama had a program, whose name I do not remember that took tons of cheap cars off the road never to be heard from again.

[Shipping up to Boston]

And bald tires with a transmission that is a shade of its former self.

Obama had a program, whose name I do not remember that took tons of cheap cars off the road never to be heard from again.

Is that the template theyre using for our gas appliances?!

[mrf0151]

It is very hard to get a good used golf cart for under $2K. I think poster may have meant $20000.

[Shipping up to Boston]

It is very hard to get a good used golf cart for under $2K. I think poster may have meant $20000.

You dont see many front lawn, For Sale placard private sales for 20K. Doesnt mean they dont happen but if OP meant 20K, the post wouldnt be necessary.

[Chandra10100]

Just thinking back to my other children buying their first ‘HOOPTIES’ … my youngest is having a heck of a time finding a suitable first car.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Just thinking back to my other children buying their first ‘HOOPTIES’ … my youngest is having a heck of a time finding a suitable first car.

Best thing to do is to hit the ‘country side’....off the beaten paths and usually you’ll find one in a driveway or on a property. Obviously off site. I used to get a lot of cars that way and people are usually more flexible on the price. 2K is a narrow price point but you never know

[BrianL99]

And bald tires with a transmission that is a shade of its former self.

Obama had a program, whose name I do not remember that took tons of cheap cars off the road never to be heard from again.


Cash for Clunkers was the biggest automobile sales boondoggle in history. Dealers made a fortune!

[Stu from NYC]

Cash for Clunkers was the biggest automobile sales boondoggle in history. Dealers made a fortune!

And people who did not have much money to buy a car were hurt by this

[Shipping up to Boston]

Cash for Clunkers was the biggest automobile sales boondoggle in history. Dealers made a fortune!

Is that like Candlepins for Cash?!

[Topspinmo]

My neighbor up street in CYV has couple might sell? Let’s see 2 golf carts, 3 cars, and work van. Can’t get none in garage. One on street, two in driveway, carts in front side yard and van down street. Luckily not close to me. Let’s in CYVs in my district no vehicles parked on street, no carts in yards, and no work vehicles. O wait that was old rules, now everything goes.

[Topspinmo]

Cash for Clunkers was the biggest automobile sales boondoggle in history. Dealers made a fortune!

Aaaa, the good old days!:highfive:

[Marmaduke]

And bald tires with a transmission that is a shade of its former self.

Obama had a program, whose name I do not remember that took tons of cheap cars off the road never to be heard from again.
Cash for Clunkers.

[Ignatz]

$2k is what places like CarMax and Auto Nation are paying for quality used cars. Then they sell them for 3x or higher prices.

I don’t think you can buy a “reliable” used car for under $5k these days, if not higher.

[srswans]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?

An acquaintance of mine just picked up a decent BMW Z3 convertible for $1500. Needed a little works but it runs great.

The deals are out there - gotta know where to look and gotta know cars.

[banjobob]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?
Cars under 2000 dollars are more trouble and repair than you may want, in todays market 5000 dollars should buy a useable car, probably high mileage although with any normal service record should not be a problem. Always take a knowledge auto person to evaluate.

[merrymini]

Are people being paid to put up silly questions like this?

[Girlcopper]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?

We are in the 21st century now. Remember?

[Shipping up to Boston]

Are people being paid to put up silly questions like this?

I don’t think it’s silly. It’s just a matter of luck and being in the right place at the right time. My neighbor knocked on the door of another neighbor who had been ill. His car, a ‘06 Crown Vic with 22k original miles had sat for a year in his driveway. He needed to get a car more suitable for his back/hip condition. He told him the Ford dealer was only going to give him 3K on a trade in. So rather than give in to the dealers insulting offer, he sold it to my neighbor for 3K. Beautiful car, maintained and limited mileage. Is that rare, sure....but it happens to those that are willing to get out there and ask around

[retiredguy123]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?
Auto Trader has 10 vehicles listed for $2,000 or less within 50 miles.

[opinionist]

That is what happens when you print money to pay the bills.

[Stu from NYC]

Aaaa, the good old days!:highfive:

Only problem was govt took forever to pay the dealers

[elevatorman]

You may find a good reliable golf cart for under $2000.

[LeRoySmith]

That is what happens when you print money to pay the bills.

Amen!

You can't pay everyone in the country $600 a week for 2 years to stay at home and not expect a huge ripple. We already had a work ethic challenge and then the bat virus turned us on our head, try to get someone to work hard these days. Fiscal responsibility is a dirty word these days.

Rant over. :grumpy:

[Cliff Fr]

I'm outside the bubble. If you know what to look for or your mechanically inclined, you can still do it. I've bought 2 vehicles for less than $2000 in the past couple years. I had to fix a couple of issues on both of them but they are working fine now. It's best to find one for sale by someone who has owned it quite awhile. I avoid dealers. Your probably looking at 2006 to 2008 model years at that price. We also own a 2007 Chevy Hhr with 217,000 miles that still runs great. IMO many of the vehicles after 2008 have more complex computer systems and engines which make them less reliable. I'd stay away from Craigslist though and watch out on FB marketplace. Many of the ads that look like private sellers are actually dealers

[SHIBUMI]

When I inquired, I was told the county owns the streets. People CAN park on the street for 48 hours. Then they have to move the vehicle. So they can move it ten feet every 48 hours and be legal. TV owns the sidewalks. Nature of the beast.:undecided:

My neighbor up street in CYV has couple might sell? Let’s see 2 golf carts, 3 cars, and work van. Can’t get none in garage. One on street, two in driveway, carts in front side yard and van down street. Luckily not close to me. Let’s in CYVs in my district no vehicles parked on street, no carts in yards, and no work vehicles. O wait that was old rules, now everything goes.

[retiredguy123]

When I inquired, I was told the county owns the streets. People CAN park on the street for 48 hours. Then they have to move the vehicle. So they can move it ten feet every 48 hours and be legal. TV owns the sidewalks. Nature of the beast.:undecided:
The streets in the courtyard villa sections are not owned by the county. They are private roads owned and controlled by The Villages. The CYV deed restrictions prohibit a vehicle owned the homeowner to be parked on the street or in the visitor parking spaces at any time. However, visitors can park on the street. In other sections of The Villages, the streets are owned by the county.

[spd2918]

An acquaintance of mine just picked up a decent BMW Z3 convertible for $1500. Needed a little works but it runs great.

The deals are out there - gotta know where to look and gotta know cars.

There is nothing more expensive than a cheaply purchased German car.

$3k seems to be the price point for a decent, high mileage beater. Ford Taurus, Chevy Impala, these are what you will see in that range.

[Normal]

You may find a good reliable golf cart for under $2000.

Maybe, you can get a cart for that amount; it probably would be in rough shape. I know you can scrap a car for 800 dollars if you can get it to the yard.

[Stu from NYC]

For better or worse, one generally gets what you pay for

[Professor]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?

Come on...used cars worth driving are going to cost more than that. You want cheap...you get junk.

[dougawhite]

Is that like Candlepins for Cash?!

Or Duckpins for Dollars

[PugMom]

if you do choose to get a car in that price range, be prepared to pay more than that for any repairs, & after 100,000 i've noticed my cars would need either a new tranny or gaskets, don't do it.

[Ken D.]

Is that like Candlepins for Cash?!

So, you’re familiar with the Bob Gamere story 🫣

[OhioBuckeye]

Yea used cars are getting more expensive, just about to the point as they were when they were new. You can just about tell the dealership what you’ll pay for it because personally I think they’re getting desperate. But for gods sake don’t let them talk you into an EV, they’re expensive to buy & expensive to maintain. I have grandson in-law that bought 2 EV’s & he’s a Dr. now he went back to a gasoline auto. Guess some people have find out for themselves!

[Shipping up to Boston]

So, you’re familiar with the Bob Gamere story 🫣

Oh yeah. He forgot there were walking paths in the Fenway but instead took the Children of the Corn path instead! Don’t wanna get the moderator going by adding specifics to the story! ;)

[Ptmcbriz]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?

You live in a lovely home and want an eyesore of what a junky $2K car parked in your driveway would look like? The price puts it just short of the junkyard category. Can’t imagine your neighbors appreciating looking at it all the time either. Buy a more expensive car and finance it for $100 month payment and save yourself the headache of oil spots on your driveway and in your garage.

[GWilliams]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?

No, since most get robbed and have the car stolen.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Oh yeah. He forgot there were walking paths in the Fenway but instead took the Children of the Corn path instead! Don’t wanna get the moderator going by adding specifics to the story! ;)good old Bob ,he used to drink in a bar at revere beach called Victors , the waitresses used to call him the octopus, seeing this is a family friendly site I won’t explain more , but I really miss Victors , still run into Victor not for a few years .

[fdpaq0580]

Are people being paid to put up silly questions like this?

If so, I could make a fortune!

[fdpaq0580]

You live in a lovely home and want an eyesore of what a junky $2K car parked in your driveway would look like? The price puts it just short of the junkyard category. Can’t imagine your neighbors appreciating looking at it all the time either. Buy a more expensive car and finance it for $100 month payment and save yourself the headache of oil spots on your driveway and in your garage.

Those "oil spots" give it a high class Dalmatian appearance. Quite hoity and toity, eh wot.

[tophcfa]

Two grand is about the going rate for a car that can be towed to its new owner and be stripped for its useful parts.

[nn0wheremann]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?
Sure, all the time, if you can pay in 1982 dollars.

[fdpaq0580]

What's the old saying, "One man's trash ..." You get it.
Depends what is desired in the "discount" car. A non-discript, reliable but undesirable model might be the right choice for a number of reasons.
Or, it could be one is looking to restore something unusual just for fun. Or, is looking for a cheap 2nd car for use on rare occasions when a golf cart won't cut it.
Keep looking, OP. What you are looking for is very likely still out there, somewhere.

[kkingston57]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?

Car buyers like Vroom and Carvana will make a good offer on a used car these days and there are scammers out there looking for cars.

2K? Just bought a 2010 Honda CRV and dealer wanted 10K for it.

Lastly not a lot of low priced cars in the TV area as most are low mileage vehicles. We drive 4K a year.

[Berwin]

And bald tires with a transmission that is a shade of its former self.

Obama had a program, whose name I do not remember that took tons of cheap cars off the road never to be heard from again.

That was part of the auto industry bailout.

[CarlR33]

Just sold a 2007 Accord with 157K miles for $5,700 and could have probably got $6K…..could have driven the car across the U.S. with no issue. If your looking at $2K your still liven in 1980’s?

[Stu from NYC]

That was part of the auto industry bailout.

Which had lots of unintended consequences

[mdmurrell]

I have Lexus 2002 in excellent condition. It does have a lot of highway miles (218,000). That being said, it has a six disc cd and cassette player, new Michelin tires. It’s deep white pearl with gold medallion series. Asking $5995.

[Robojo]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?

There is a YouTube channel dedicated to this called "Car Questions Answered". They are showing cars on dealer lots for 3k. Good luck!

[fdpaq0580]

Are people being paid to put up silly questions like this?

What do you think? 🫠

[Cliff Fr]

Two grand is about the going rate for a car that can be towed to its new owner and be stripped for its useful parts.

I have to disagree but I will admit that you do have to know how to service cars yourself and how to use a obdII scanner.

[Runway48]

Originally Posted by tophcfa View Post
Two grand is about the going rate for a car that can be towed to its new owner and be stripped for its useful parts.

In1982, I purchased a used 1968 4dr Mercedes for $2000. Over the following year I learned that a $2000 Mercedes is the most expensive car on the road

[Topspinmo]

When I inquired, I was told the county owns the streets. People CAN park on the street for 48 hours. Then they have to move the vehicle. So they can move it ten feet every 48 hours and be legal. TV owns the sidewalks. Nature of the beast.:undecided:

Not in my district streets are private.

[jimjamuser]

Are the days gone of finding a decent used car for less than $2000?
Dont people still sell their cars privately for a great price ?
Definition of "decent"......each person would have a different definition of decent. Some would want a mechanically strong drive train and not care about rust, paint, or dents. Others would want a clean LOOKING car and figure that they could replace any bad drive train parts. One big mistake that many make in Florida is buying a dark color car because in the summer it will burn your hand and take a few blocks to cool down.

[jimjamuser]

Yea used cars are getting more expensive, just about to the point as they were when they were new. You can just about tell the dealership what you’ll pay for it because personally I think they’re getting desperate. But for gods sake don’t let them talk you into an EV, they’re expensive to buy & expensive to maintain. I have grandson in-law that bought 2 EV’s & he’s a Dr. now he went back to a gasoline auto. Guess some people have find out for themselves!
Theoretically, electric vehicles have all the advantages over gasoline or diesel. Better acceleration, better braking, better cornering, better for the environment, quieter, no odor, no fuel stops, lower operating cost, and more reliability. The only disadvantage is long distance and lack of charging stations. So, if there is ANY disadvantage that I am NOT aware of, I am sure that it will be rectified in the future. Europe has twice as many new E-vehicles as the US. I would say that we are the backward ones.

[BobnBev]

Theoretically, electric vehicles have all the advantages over gasoline or diesel. Better acceleration, better braking, better cornering, better for the environment, quieter, no odor, no fuel stops, lower operating cost, and more reliability. The only disadvantage is long distance and lack of charging stations. So, if there is ANY disadvantage that I am NOT aware of, I am sure that it will be rectified in the future. Europe has twice as many new E-vehicles as the US. I would say that we are the backward ones.

How about front end crash protection? There is no motor there to absorb an impact.

[Stu from NYC]

Theoretically, electric vehicles have all the advantages over gasoline or diesel. Better acceleration, better braking, better cornering, better for the environment, quieter, no odor, no fuel stops, lower operating cost, and more reliability. The only disadvantage is long distance and lack of charging stations. So, if there is ANY disadvantage that I am NOT aware of, I am sure that it will be rectified in the future. Europe has twice as many new E-vehicles as the US. I would say that we are the backward ones.

Saw a job opening for working in a mine that brings us the raw materials for EV. Great pay but no life insurance.

Interested?

[Shipping up to Boston]

Saw a job opening for working in a mine that brings us the raw materials for EV. Great pay but no life insurance.

Interested?

I think there are many in Appalachia that would be. Especially since coal production continues in that region ....except the raw materials are sent to China (6th highest buyer of US coal) instead of staying here for the same purpose. Funny how that works out. Hypocrisy is alive and well

[jimjamuser]

You live in a lovely home and want an eyesore of what a junky $2K car parked in your driveway would look like? The price puts it just short of the junkyard category. Can’t imagine your neighbors appreciating looking at it all the time either. Buy a more expensive car and finance it for $100 month payment and save yourself the headache of oil spots on your driveway and in your garage.
A person should be able to buy the car that they want WITHOUT consideration tor what a neighbor would think about it. The neighbor should keep their eyes on their own property. Some people think that older cars have more character and are more unique. Most cars produced after 1970 are just BASICALLY STATION WAGONS styled up so as NOT to look like station wagons. But, they are boxy affairs that have high centers of gravity like station wagons........and they all look the same, like so much ticky-tacky. If you want a car with character buy an old Cadillac or a Buick. Plus if you are in a wreck, you are the one that lives through it, not the owner of a car WITHOUT a bumper. And you might get one for 2K.

[jimjamuser]

How about front end crash protection? There is no motor there to absorb an impact.
For the most part, in a high speed accident the motor gets ripped off its bolts and ends up in the laps of the driver and anyone in the front seat. Cars would be safer with REAL front bumpers, but buyers would rather DIE than not look cool and modern.

[Shipping up to Boston]

A person should be able to buy the car that they want WITHOUT consideration tor what a neighbor would think about it. The neighbor should keep their eyes on their own property. Some people think that older cars have more character and are more unique. Most cars produced after 1970 are just BASICALLY STATION WAGONS styled up so as NOT to look like station wagons. But, they are boxy affairs that have high centers of gravity like station wagons........and they all look the same, like so much ticky-tacky. If you want a car with character buy an old Cadillac or a Buick. Plus if you are in a wreck, you are the one that lives through it, not the owner of a car WITHOUT a bumper. And you might get one for 2K.

....or a Lincoln Town Car!

[jimjamuser]

What's the old saying, "One man's trash ..." You get it.
Depends what is desired in the "discount" car. A non-discript, reliable but undesirable model might be the right choice for a number of reasons.
Or, it could be one is looking to restore something unusual just for fun. Or, is looking for a cheap 2nd car for use on rare occasions when a golf cart won't cut it.
Keep looking, OP. What you are looking for is very likely still out there, somewhere.
Yes, I would not mind owning an old AMC Gremlin.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tophcfa View Post
Two grand is about the going rate for a car that can be towed to its new owner and be stripped for its useful parts.

In1982, I purchased a used 1968 4dr Mercedes for $2000. Over the following year I learned that a $2000 Mercedes is the most expensive car on the road
I had a 1970 diesel Mercedes that I only had to put money in it for tires. I had it for 10 years and sold it to a man who is probably still driving it. It was an indestructible TANK that you could feel safe in.

[LeRoySmith]

This is my tank

[Stu from NYC]

This is my tank

Your welcome:bigbow:

[villagetinker]

One final consideration, with all of the flooding recently there will probably be a bunch of "totaled" cars with washed titles for very low cost, be careful.

[jimjamuser]

I think there are many in Appalachia that would be. Especially since coal production continues in that region ....except the raw materials are sent to China (6th highest buyer of US coal) instead of staying here for the same purpose. Funny how that works out. Hypocrisy is alive and well
That just means that we OUTSOURCE tons of POLLUTION to China. Somehow I tend to like that.

[Shipping up to Boston]

That just means that we OUTSOURCE tons of POLLUTION to China. Somehow I tend to like that.

‘Pollution’ is an ambiguous term. It comes in many forms....imported/exported....deporte....ahh never mind!

[jimjamuser]

This is my tank
Now, THAT is a REAL car. Safe, with massive external bumpers. (why do US automobile stylists believe that you HAVE to integrate the bumper into the front and rear sheet metal) To my eye that car of yours is BEAUTIFUL. I doubt that those bumpers have any effect on gas mileage and wind resistance at the normal speed limits that are in most of the US. Also, that is a beautiful color - kudos!
........Obviously, modern cars have better suspensions, lower centers of gravity, and more efficient engines. But they all look the same, like ticky - tacky. If you want a unique vehicle today, you need to buy a truck with a real front bumper. Personally, I would want a hybrid. That's probably why trucks are more pevalent today than in the 60s and 70s.

[Topspinmo]

Yes, I would not mind owning an old AMC Gremlin.

I figured Simca 1100 would more your style.

[Topspinmo]

That just means that we OUTSOURCE tons of POLLUTION to China. Somehow I tend to like that.

Still goes up in air.

[Topspinmo]

Now, THAT is a REAL car. Safe, with massive external bumpers. (why do US automobile stylists believe that you HAVE to integrate the bumper into the front and rear sheet metal) To my eye that car of yours is BEAUTIFUL. I doubt that those bumpers have any effect on gas mileage and wind resistance at the normal speed limits that are in most of the US. Also, that is a beautiful color - kudos!
........Obviously, modern cars have better suspensions, lower centers of gravity, and more efficient engines. But they all look the same, like ticky - tacky. If you want a unique vehicle today, you need to buy a truck with a real front bumper. Personally, I would want a hybrid. That's probably why trucks are more pevalent today than in the 60s and 70s.

Not really, 59 Nash was getting over 30 miles to gallon.

Trucks now are overpriced cars with beds.

[Stu from NYC]

Still goes up in air.

Pollution is pollution no matter where it originates

[spd2918]

Theoretically, electric vehicles have all the advantages over gasoline or diesel.

I'm sorry, but this is simply a person repeating propaganda. While electric cars have great acceleration, the rest of the claims are arguable at best and some are clearly false.

EVs are heavier and thus don't handle or brake as well (apples to apples for equivalently priced models). They are more expensive. They require truckloads of taxpayer money for subsidies. Their depreciation is higher. They are bad for the environment as their batteries require strip mining and slave / child labor in Africa as well as shipping around the world. The batteries are not recycled. The electricity is made in many cases by burning coal. They drive up the cost of electricity.

I would support EV sales if they were honest about the true costs. Stop giving my tax money to EV manufacturers and wealthy buyers. Allow companies to build nuke plants if you want more electricity. Nukes plants are safe as all the pollution is small and contained.

[LeRoySmith]

I'm sorry, but this is simply a person repeating propaganda. While electric cars have great acceleration, the rest of the claims are arguable at best and some are clearly false.

EVs are heavier and thus don't handle or brake as well (apples to apples for equivalently priced models). They are more expensive. They require truckloads of taxpayer money for subsidies. Their depreciation is higher. They are bad for the environment as their batteries require strip mining and slave / child labor in Africa as well as shipping around the world. The batteries are not recycled. The electricity is made in many cases by burning coal. They drive up the cost of electricity.

I would support EV sales if they were honest about the true costs. Stop giving my tax money to EV manufacturers and wealthy buyers. Allow companies to build nuke plants if you want more electricity. Nukes plants are safe as all the pollution is small and contained.

I can't speak to the validity of the claim but Elon Musk has claimed that if the U.S. built a 10,000-square mile solar farm in the southwest desert, it could power the entire country. This would also require a 1 square mile battery to run us through the night. Seems a bit far fetched to me but wouldn't it be nice if we could work this out.

[PugMom]

I have Lexus 2002 in excellent condition. It does have a lot of highway miles (218,000). That being said, it has a six disc cd and cassette player, new Michelin tires. It’s deep white pearl with gold medallion series. Asking $5995.

i've heard those engines can last a long time

[spd2918]

I can't speak to the validity of the claim but Elon Musk has claimed that if the U.S. built a 10,000-square mile solar farm in the southwest desert, it could power the entire country.

Engineers float ideas of what they think is possible without discussing the costs. It might be possible, but those panels need mining, chemicals, manufacturing, transportation, installation, maintenance, and eventual disposal. Is he funding it? What are the real environmental costs at the end of the day?

[Number 10 GI]

A $2,000 safe and reliable car is a pipe dream, they are called clunkers. Sure, you might find a widow that wants to sell her late spouse's vehicle cheap because she has no idea what it is worth, but those are called unicorns. I've owned over 50 cars in my life and a car with a cheap sales price has problems that will only be solved with lots of dollars in repairs. I can't count the times I've seen cheap broken down cars on the road with temporary tags on it.

[Two Bills]

i've heard those engines can last a long time

Toyota's with bling!

[BrianL99]

I have Lexus 2002 in excellent condition. It does have a lot of highway miles (218,000). That being said, it has a six disc cd and cassette player, new Michelin tires. It’s deep white pearl with gold medallion series. Asking $5995.

Probably not a terrible deal.

& think how cheap your entertainment would be? You could buy CD's & Cassettes at yard sales, for a few cents.

Too bad it didn't have an 8 Track.

[Stu from NYC]

Toyota's with bling!

Take good care of a Toyota, change oil regularly and they will last and last.

[kkingston57]

One final consideration, with all of the flooding recently there will probably be a bunch of "totaled" cars with washed titles for very low cost, be careful.

If it is a Florida registered car it will have a "total loss' title. Florida has good protection from cars like this. Texas might be a lot different`