What has happened to Honda, Acura.

[Dustybrogan]

I have a 2018 Acura MDX and I have received a recall notice that the engine may throw a rod bearing (blow up). I also have a recall notice that the fuel pump may stop working. Both abnormalities would render the car unusable. Their advice was to park the vehicle and not bring it in to the dealer, because they don’t have any parts to fix the problems. They will let me know sometime in the future when they will look at the vehicle. Who would buy one of these used, or take it as a trade in knowing that these recalls exist and they don’t have the parts to repair? I can remember when Honda cars were super reliable and lasted forever.

[kkingston57]

I have a 2018 Acura MDX and I have received a recall notice that the engine may throw a rod bearing (blow up). I also have a recall notice that the fuel pump may stop working. Both abnormalities would render the car unusable. Their advice was to park the vehicle and not bring it in to the dealer, because they don’t have any parts to fix the problems. They will let me know sometime in the future when they will look at the vehicle. Who would buy one of these used, or take it as a trade in knowing that these recalls exist and they don’t have the parts to repair? I can remember when Honda cars were super reliable and lasted forever.

Was this a service bulletin or a recall. Recalls almost always require immediate attention. Have a 2020 and do not know if it has same engine(with same problems)

[Jayhawk]

Was this a service bulletin or a recall. Recalls almost always require immediate attention. Have a 2020 and do not know if it has same engine(with same problems)Safety Recall - Connecting Rod Bearing (2016 - 2020) | Acura MDX SUV Forums (https://www.mdxers.org/threads/safety-recall-connecting-rod-bearing-2016-2020.181848/)

[fdpaq0580]

Imagine the tens or hundreds of thousands of recalls sent out by auto corporations, all arriving in mailboxes at the same time. Imagine all the vehicle owners driving down to their local dealers to get the repair done. Now, Imagine the size of the dealership that ALL those parts for all those recalls, and employ ALL the technicians to handle those recalls, and have service bays for all those recalls. Imagine the size of the waiting rooms, restrooms. (Better stop now. This imagining could go on forever.)

[BrianL99]

I have a 2018 Acura MDX and I have received a recall notice that the engine may throw a rod bearing (blow up). I also have a recall notice that the fuel pump may stop working. Both abnormalities would render the car unusable. Their advice was to park the vehicle and not bring it in to the dealer, because they don’t have any parts to fix the problems. They will let me know sometime in the future when they will look at the vehicle. Who would buy one of these used, or take it as a trade in knowing that these recalls exist and they don’t have the parts to repair? I can remember when Honda cars were super reliable and lasted forever.

They're both still super reliable and last nearly forever. That said, the factory/manufacturers support for both Honda and Acura is abysmal. Not quite as bad as Nissan/Infiniti, but a close second.

[CarlR33]

idk, a dealer probably wont give you anything for it as it is 6 years old and recall or not and you could try Carvana but I would just drive it. If you did not get the recall by some method that required you to sign receipt of said notice then I would continue to drive it and if it blows play dumb? I would guess they would make it right with a new motor? I’m curious how they are going to recall fix a rod bearing as that would probably require an oil pan drop or other major repair either way. Look at it this way if you get the recall done you can use that as a plus for the used sale? Either way I would not loose sleep over it. I drive used and usually till it nearly drops title in hand always!

[tophcfa]

They don’t build them like they used to. Nowadays, the focus is on expensive electronics, computer chips, and tracking data that can be sold to third parties instead of reliable driving performance. I bought a new 1998 5 speed manual transmission Acura Integra for commuting to work that drove and handled like a gem, wasn’t loaded with sensors and computer chips, and was ultra reliable for me for 400 thousand miles. Besides regular maintenance and a couple new clutches, it never had a single problem. I gave the car to a nephew who got almost another 100 k out of it without any maintenance. I dread the day I need a new car now, I don’t want to drive a computer on wheel that tracks everything I do.

[Topspinmo]

I have a 2018 Acura MDX and I have received a recall notice that the engine may throw a rod bearing (blow up). I also have a recall notice that the fuel pump may stop working. Both abnormalities would render the car unusable. Their advice was to park the vehicle and not bring it in to the dealer, because they don’t have any parts to fix the problems. They will let me know sometime in the future when they will look at the vehicle. Who would buy one of these used, or take it as a trade in knowing that these recalls exist and they don’t have the parts to repair? I can remember when Honda cars were super reliable and lasted forever.

Maybe Hyundai/Kia making them now? :eclipsee_gold_cup:

[Topspinmo]

O, I make sure changing the oil yearly or before? my guess failure rate increased with these 10K miles plus oil change intervals.

[Cliff Fr]

Wow, 289,000 vehicles affected. An engine throwing a rod is very serious. I read that one person was on the interstate going 80 mph when his threw a rod. His only had 70,000 miles on it. He said there was oil everywhere and it scared the s#$t out of him.

[Blueblaze]

I quit buying Hondas when I opened the hood on my 3-year-old 1983 Honda Civic Wagon one day to change the oil, and the hood came off in my hands. Both hinges had broken off, with less than 30,000 miles on it. I put the hood in the back and drove it to the dealer. They refused to fix it under warranty because greasing the hood hinges was apparently a "standard preventative maintenance" item I'd neglected to perform.

I have heard they eventually learned how to make a car that didn't require regular hood hinge maintenance, but I never had the pleasure of owning one, after that experience. Somehow I am not surprised that they now produce cars that throw rods.

[TommyT]

Quality went into the toilet after Mr. Honda passed IMO...

[Topspinmo]

Wow, 289,000 vehicles affected. An engine throwing a rod is very serious. I read that one person was on the interstate going 80 mph when his threw a rod. His only had 70,000 miles on it. He said there was oil everywhere and it scared the s#$t out of him.


The V6 rubber band engines.

[Fredster]

Maybe Hyundai/Kia making them now? :eclipsee_gold_cup:

Have you ever owned a Hyundai or Kia???

[Maker]

Several Hondas years ago, then a gap, then another Honda that was horrible. While being fixed, loaner car died, Replacement also died. Quality seems to be far lower than older cars

[tophcfa]

Several Hondas years ago, then a gap, then another Honda that was horrible. While being fixed, loaner car died, Replacement also died. Quality seems to be far lower than older cars

My wife’s 2019 HRV has 90K trouble free miles and counting. It doesn’t have lots of power but gets great mileage and is a pleasure to drive.

[Packer Fan]

I have a 2018 Acura MDX and I have received a recall notice that the engine may throw a rod bearing (blow up). I also have a recall notice that the fuel pump may stop working. Both abnormalities would render the car unusable. Their advice was to park the vehicle and not bring it in to the dealer, because they don’t have any parts to fix the problems. They will let me know sometime in the future when they will look at the vehicle. Who would buy one of these used, or take it as a trade in knowing that these recalls exist and they don’t have the parts to repair? I can remember when Honda cars were super reliable and lasted forever.

Honda made its entire reputation off one car- the Honda Accord which WAS bulletproof. Not like Toyota at all. Amazing how Americans equate good car quality with Japanese because of Toyota and the Honday Accord. I had a CRV and it was a lemon and an Accura for 2 years before the maintenance costs made me trade back to a Buick. Nissan, Mitsubishi, Suburu are no better than anything else. We have a Buick and a Toyota and very happy. Would never buy another Honda myself.

[village dreamer]

honda used to make the best lawnmowers........ used to, no more.:cryin2::cryin2::cryin2:

[BrianL99]

Honda made its entire reputation off one car- the Honda Accord which WAS bulletproof. Not like Toyota at all. Amazing how Americans equate good car quality with Japanese because of Toyota and the Honday Accord. I had a CRV and it was a lemon and an Accura for 2 years before the maintenance costs made me trade back to a Buick. Nissan, Mitsubishi, Suburu are no better than anything else. We have a Buick and a Toyota and very happy. Would never buy another Honda myself.

Those in the industry, as well as most consumers, would disagree. Toyota and Honda are in a class by themselves. Nissan and Subaru surely aren't in that same class, but they focus on a different customer. Buick has come a long way, but I wouldn't put them anyone near the Toyota/Honda class.

The only place people seem to buy Mitsubishi, is in Florida. You could drive around the Northeast for a month and never see one on the road, that isn't 15 years old.

[kkingston57]

honda used to make the best lawnmowers........ used to, no more.:cryin2::cryin2::cryin2:

Go into an equipment rental store. Almost all Hondas

[jimbomaybe]

Several Hondas years ago, then a gap, then another Honda that was horrible. While being fixed, loaner car died, Replacement also died. Quality seems to be far lower than older cars
Tell me it ain't so , just bought a 2024 CRV, traded in my 2008, 110,000. miles other than brakes, tires and battery, a starter needed to be replaced , normal scheduled maintenance, oh well

[BrianL99]

Tell me it ain't so , just bought a 2024 CRV, traded in my 2008, 110,000. miles other than brakes, tires and battery, a starter needed to be replaced , normal scheduled maintenance, oh well

You bought what is probably the 2nd best vehicle of it's type, made in the last 50 years.

The only other vehicle in that class that favorably compares with the CRV, is the Toyota Rav 4.

A company I work for, owns 17 dealerships, representing almost every A tier manufacturer. If you walked into any of our stores and asked any knowledgable person, what's the best "small SUV on the market" or what's the "most dependable, convenient, small import for my daughter going to college" ... without exception, they would tell you to buy a Honda CRV or a Toyota Rav 4. Comparing them to anything else on the market, is like the men vs the boys.

[JP]

I’ve got a 2012 Honda Ridgeline thats never needed anything except tires and brakes. It’s got on demand all wheel drive and runs perfectly and drives thru anything. I also have various small Honda engines on things such as a wood splitter and lawnmowers that start on the first pull even after not being used for 6 months. I’d buy Honda again all day.

[Topspinmo]

Have you ever owned a Hyundai or Kia???


No I like parking my car in garage:pepper2:

[jimbomaybe]

You bought what is probably the 2nd best vehicle of it's type, made in the last 50 years.

The only other vehicle in that class that favorably compares with the CRV, is the Toyota Rav 4.

A company I work for, owns 17 dealerships, representing almost every A tier manufacturer. If you walked into any of our stores and asked any knowledgable person, what's the best "small SUV on the market" or what's the "most dependable, convenient, small import for my daughter going to college" ... without exception, they would tell you to buy a Honda CRV or a Toyota Rav 4. Comparing them to anything else on the market, is like the men vs the boys.
The Rav4 was on the list for sure, but my preference leaned towards the Honda styling as well as the excellent reliability I experienced spent a lot of time in that car, took very good care of it, almost expected it to follow me home.

[Kelevision]

I have a 2018 Acura MDX and I have received a recall notice that the engine may throw a rod bearing (blow up). I also have a recall notice that the fuel pump may stop working. Both abnormalities would render the car unusable. Their advice was to park the vehicle and not bring it in to the dealer, because they don’t have any parts to fix the problems. They will let me know sometime in the future when they will look at the vehicle. Who would buy one of these used, or take it as a trade in knowing that these recalls exist and they don’t have the parts to repair? I can remember when Honda cars were super reliable and lasted forever.

Honda and Acura are not the same company. Acura is a branch of Honda…..

One difference between Honda and Acura is that Honda vehicles are renowned for their reliability, efficiency, and high safety ratings. And, while there is some overlap between Honda and Acura offerings, Honda will be a better choice if you’re looking for a small car, midsize car, small SUV, or midsize SUV. Models like the Civic, CR-V, and Pilot are all strong choices in their respective segments and don’t come with the premium pricing of Acura models. And I doubt either has control over the place the parts are made. I don’t have either of those cars and had to wait months for a part to come in to fix my windshield wiper fluid.

[BrianL99]

Honda and Acura are not the same company. Acura is a branch of Honda…..

One difference between Honda and Acura is that Honda vehicles are renowned for their reliability, efficiency, and high safety ratings. And, while there is some overlap between Honda and Acura offerings, Honda will be a better choice if you’re looking for a small car, midsize car, small SUV, or midsize SUV. Models like the Civic, CR-V, and Pilot are all strong choices in their respective segments and don’t come with the premium pricing of Acura models. And I doubt either has control over the place the parts are made. I don’t have either of those cars and had to wait months for a part to come in to fix my windshield wiper fluid.


Simply cutting and pasting word for word nonsense you find with a Google search, from a dealer's website that sells only Honda, provides no value. You simply cut and pasted the text of your post, from here:

Attention Required! | Cloudflare (https://www.valleyhonda.com/difference-between-honda-and-acura/).

Acura is a wholly owned division of Honda, just like General Motors owns Buick and Chevrolet and Toyota owns Lexus.

Acura is Honda's "luxury brand" and most every vehicle is based on a Honda model, with improved performance and luxury. Traditionally, both brands rank in the Top 5, when it comes to reliability and repair frequency. Acura is typically a notch above Honda, but they have flip-flopped for years.

If you want the best reliability in the automotive industry, you buy Toyota or Honda. If you want the best reliability in the industry, but better performance and luxury, you buy Acura or Lexus.

By most any matrix you want to use, it's been that way for 25+ years and not likely to change anytime soon. Individual models may have some variation, but across the product line, Honda and Acura rank among most dependable, reliable and durable vehicles sold in the USA.

[tophcfa]

Acura is a wholly owned division of Honda, just like General Motors owns Buick and Chevrolet and Toyota owns Lexus.

Acura is Honda's "luxury brand" and most every vehicle is based on a Honda model, with improved performance and luxury.

Totally true. When I owned an Acura Integra my insurance was unusually high. It was explained to me by an insurance underwriter that the Integra had the highest theft rate of any vehicle on the road. A certain segment of the population, that favored driving Honda Civics modified to be low to the ground, with loud mufflers, and tinted windows, targeted stealing Integras for their higher performance parts to soup up their rides.