Mallory Hills Country Club Restaurant

[charlie1]

Who Leases the Mallory Hills Country Club Restaurant? I can find the leasee of all the other country clubs but this one. I pretty sure it is not FMK or Suileman Family. Seems like this club is different than all the rest as far as menu, attention to detail, etc. It sure is a great facilty and a great view! Seems like it could be a gold mine with only a few minor changes.

[bagboy]

Ray Frederick is the owner of Mallory Hill restaurant. He has been there at least 15 years.

[MX rider]

We go there at least once a week. The food is very good. Ray is a great guy and is often there, which is a good thing.
He buys quality food and doesn't buy just on price. I'm a recently retired sales rep for major food distributor. I sold food to independent resaturants, so I can tell if the food is good quality.

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Who Leases the Mallory Hills Country Club Restaurant?

The Villages Gourmet Club website shows the owner of every restaurant. Here's the list inside The Villages: LINK. (https://thevillagesgourmetclub.com/page1.html)

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[KAM+6]

We go there at least once a week. The food is very good. Ray is a great guy and is often there, which is a good thing.
He buys quality food and doesn't buy just on price. I'm a recently retired sales rep for major food distributor. I sold food to independent resaturants, so I can tell if the food is good quality.

Bob Evans mashed potatoes and canned green beans. Yuck! Pizza is good.

[MX rider]

Bob Evans mashed potatoes and canned green beans. Yuck! Pizza is good.

Every customer I had that offered green beans bought them in a can, unless they were white tablecloth. Then they bought fresh, becuase they could charge more.
Pretty much the same deal with mashed potatoes. The only customers I had that mashed their own were Amish buffets.

It just comes down to cost and labor.

The proteins he buys are top quality. Fresh chicken intead of frozen for example.

[walterray1]

Bob Evans mashed potatoes and canned green beans. Yuck! Pizza is good.

Bob Evans mashed potatoes are underrated. Try the garlic one.

[BrianL99]

Bob Evans mashed potatoes and canned green beans. Yuck! Pizza is good.

In the 3 or 4 times I got stuck eating at Mallory, the food was direct out of cryovac from Sysco Foods.

Anyone who thinks Mallory has even decent food, needs to get out more. I'd suggest Bob Evans is you want comparable to Mallory, Perkins if you want a huge step up.

[Velvet]

When I bought my house 6 years ago, I offered to take my agent for a meal at Mallory. She said, “No thank you, maybe some other place”. It sounds like nothing has changed.

[dewilson58]

It sure is a great facilty and a great view! Seems like it could be a gold mine with only a few minor changes.

It's great that a Villager likes a place.

I think each establishment has likers and dislikers.

Pizza places, BBQ eateries, CClubs, etc.,.............all mixed ratings.

All opinions.

[John Mayes]

It's great that a Villager likes a place.

I think each establishment has likers and dislikers.

Pizza places, BBQ eateries, CClubs, etc.,.............all mixed ratings.

All opinions.

LOL…I agree. I didn’t realize before moving here how many food critics lived in The Villages.

[dewilson58]

LOL…I agree. I didn’t realize before moving here how many food critics lived in The Villages.

& so much more..................

Music critics

Construction critics

Golf cart critics

Government critics

Fire Dept critics

Dog poop critics

Developer critics

Medical critics

Golf course critics

My figures are getting tired, I must stop.

:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

[Funkman]

& so much more..................

Music critics

Construction critics

Golf cart critics

Government critics

Fire Dept critics

Dog poop critics

Developer critics

Medical critics

Golf course critics

My figures are getting tired, I must stop.

:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:
^^^

This post could be so much better

[vintageogauge]

Check their county health code violations over the last couple years and months before you decide this is a good place to eat.

[gatorbill1]

I wish all the country clubs were like Mallory. Good food, good service at reasonable prices - not like other conglomerates.

[Bill14564]

Check their county health code violations over the last couple years and months before you decide this is a good place to eat.

Good idea. Very useful to have the ability to read the reports. Once again I'm impressed with the level of detail the inspectors go into. And once again, if the restaurant is allowed to remain open then I feel comfortable eating there.

[MX rider]

In the 3 or 4 times I got stuck eating at Mallory, the food was direct out of cryovac from Sysco Foods.

Anyone who thinks Mallory has even decent food, needs to get out more. I'd suggest Bob Evans is you want comparable to Mallory, Perkins if you want a huge step up.

Your comments are laugable, Perkins is mediocre at best and Bob Evans uses a lot of precooked food.

I worked for Sysco. All chicken, even fresh comes cvp for safety and freshness. Same with fresh steaks, pork and pretty much all the fresh proteins.

Sysco has good, better, best options in most food catagories. Ray buys the best fresh chicken for example. I've talked to Ray about what he buys and price is not his #1 concern. If it was, he wouldn't be buying from Sysco, we're never the lowest cost distributor. One of the CC groups does buy from the low price guys, that's why their food is not good.
He only has the one restaurant he focuses on.

Btw, his brick oven pizza is good. And my wife loves his salmon.

[BrianL99]

Your comments are laugable, Perkins is mediocre at best and Bob Evans uses a lot of precooked food.

I worked for Sysco. All chicken, even fresh comes cvp for safety and freshness. Same with fresh steaks, pork and pretty much all the fresh proteins.

Sysco has good, better, best options in most food catagories. Ray buys the best fresh chicken for example. I've talked to Ray about what he buys and price is not his #1 concern. If it was, he wouldn't be buying from Sysco, we're never the lowest cost distributor. One of the CC groups does buy from the low price guys, that's why their food is not good.
He only has the one restaurant he focuses on.

Btw, his brick oven pizza is good. And my wife loves his salmon.

We have 3 restaurants in the portfolio, so I have a pretty good clue how it works.

If "Ray buys the best", he needs to hire people who know how to prepare it, cook it and serve it.

Sysco is a great company, but a supplier of convenience. One stop shopping. One size fits all. Always has been and always will be. It's where lazy owners buy their food supplies. Quality restaurants buy staples from Sysco, but their meat, fish, produce, bakery, usually come from a specialty supplier.


He only has the one restaurant he focuses on.


He should focus better and up his game.

[Stu from NYC]

Been there a few times and the pizza is rather good.

[charlie1]

We have 3 restaurants in the portfolio, so I have a pretty good clue how it works.

If "Ray buys the best", he needs to hire people who know how to prepare it, cook it and serve it.

Sysco is a great company, but a supplier of convenience. One stop shopping. One size fits all. Always has been and always will be. It's where lazy owners buy their food supplies. Quality restaurants buy staples from Sysco, but their meat, fish, produce, bakery, usually come from a specialty supplier.

He should focus better and up his game.


This is what I was hinting at with the original post! -"If "Ray buys the best", he needs to hire people who know how to prepare it, cook it and serve it." The place is a great location and could be a great restaurant with some training and a more experienced and knowledgeable staff!

[Shipping up to Boston]

In all fairness to the gentleman from Sysco...as posted, there is no originality or attention to detail from a restaurant that buys soup to nuts from one exclusive purveyor. Sysco also delivers to jails, hospitals and schools. If a restaurant wants my business, I’m ok with an uptick in price but not for ‘Bob Evans’ mashed potatoes or ‘canned green beans’. I can get locked up for a night in Polk County with everybody’s favorite Maitre D....errr Sheriff, and get served that same assembly line fare. Where has the creativity and pride in the kitchen gone to! Just keep accepting mediocrity as your standard and paying the premium for that ‘privilege’!

[MX rider]

We have 3 restaurants in the portfolio, so I have a pretty good clue how it works.

If "Ray buys the best", he needs to hire people who know how to prepare it, cook it and serve it.

Sysco is a great company, but a supplier of convenience. One stop shopping. One size fits all. Always has been and always will be. It's where lazy owners buy their food supplies. Quality restaurants buy staples from Sysco, but their meat, fish, produce, bakery, usually come from a specialty supplier.





He should focus better and up his game.

Sysco has very high end fresh products as well. I sold to many very successful restaurants including 2 white tablecloth.
We own our own beef company, premium pork and seafood companies as well. Our prime certified angus beef is as good as it gets, other than Waygu.

We aren't "just a one stop shop for lazy owners". Many of my customers were very picky and have been successeful for a long time. You painting with such a broad brush is an insult to them.

Anyway, we think the food at Mallory is good and the place is usually very busy.

[Hape2Bhr]

In all fairness to the gentleman from Sysco...as posted, there is no originality or attention to detail from a restaurant that buys soup to nuts from one exclusive purveyor. Sysco also delivers to jails, hospitals and schools. If a restaurant wants my business, I’m ok with an uptick in price but not for ‘Bob Evans’ mashed potatoes or ‘canned green beans’. I can get locked up for a night in Polk County with everybody’s favorite Maitre D....errr Sheriff, and get served that same assembly line fare. Where has the creativity and pride in the kitchen gone to! Just keep accepting mediocrity as your standard and paying the premium for that ‘privilege’!

Notably, Mallory's food is levels above the food served at the North Harmon Institute.

[Sabella]

All of the prices recently went up about three months ago.(not reasonable prices anymore)

[dewilson58]

This is what I was hinting at with the original post! -"If "Ray buys the best", he needs to hire people who know how to prepare it, cook it and serve it."

Agree.
Last time there, my Bride's pasta/chicken dish was swimming.....swimming in water.
The chicken had zero spice/flavor/seasoning.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Notably, Mallory's food is levels above the food served at the North Harmon Institute.

It's South Harmon....btw.

Again, if you're ok with institutional mashed potatoes and canned green beans (lazy)....all the power to you. Hopefully you dont frequent those types of spots that do....with fam/friends or clients and expect the same enthusiasm.
To repeat...mediocrity is an accepted expectation by many here.

[BrianL99]

It's South Harmon....btw.

Again, if you're ok with institutional mashed potatoes and canned green beans (lazy)....all the power to you. Hopefully you dont frequent those types of spots that do....with fam/friends or clients and expect the same enthusiasm.
To repeat...mediocrity is an accepted expectation by many here.

The Villages is the land of reduced expectations, when it comes to food.

Given The Villages is the largest displaced population of middle America, I often wonder if that's just how middle America eats on a regular basis. Maybe they just don't know the difference in Peoria?

[Shipping up to Boston]

The Villages is the land of reduced expectations, when it comes to food.

Given The Villages is the largest displaced population of middle America, I often wonder if that's just how middle America eats on a regular basis. Maybe they just don't know the difference in Peoria?

I had a friend that grew up in Dubuque Iowa....he said when Pizza Hut came into the area, you would think Frank Pepe from New Haven was siting there. So your point is well taken

[dewilson58]

The Villages is the land of reduced expectations, when it comes to food.

Given The Villages is the largest displaced population of middle America, I often wonder if that's just how middle America eats on a regular basis. Maybe they just don't know the difference in Peoria?

Isn't the largest segment of the pop from the Northeast......NY, NJ, etc., where all the food experts are from??

:evil6:

[BrianL99]

I had a friend that grew up in Dubuque Iowa....he said when Pizza Hut came into the area, you would think Frank Pepe from New Haven was siting there. So your point is well taken

When I moved to NH a few years ago, I was dating a native NH lady. I usually did the cooking, but one day she told me, she was going to make her "world famous lasagna" that night. "Everyone says it's the best lasagna they've ever had", she said. I thought she was fairly worldly, she had lived in Breckinridge, CO.

OK, whatever. She says she's going shopping after work and buying all the ingredients. I'm thinking ... don't you have to start on the sauce, this morning?

& then I think, ok ... maybe she's taking a short cut and using Michael's of Brooklyn sauce ... or maybe even Rao's. I can live that, one time.

When I got home and saw the 2 large bottles of Ragu sauce, I lost it.

[Shipping up to Boston]

In Myrtle Beach, I was in a foursome where one of the locals described an ‘Italian’ sub as salami on Wonder bread with mayo! In the early 90’s I went to...at the time, one of the few Dunkin Donuts on the Grand Strand. Asked for an iced coffee....got a blank stare and got served up two cups, one with coffee and one with ice! Unless it’s the women on Food Network that live on hundreds of acres of local sourced farms....most ‘food critics’ do hail from the Northeast, CA etc. Nobody wants a critique on a Raising Canes or the like...unless you have a fledgling YouTube channel.

[Velvet]

When I moved to NH a few years ago, I was dating a native NH lady. I usually did the cooking, but one day she told me, she was going to make her "world famous lasagna" that night. "Everyone says it's the best lasagna they've ever had", she said. I thought she was fairly worldly, she had lived in Breckinridge, CO.

OK, whatever. She says she's going shopping after work and buying all the ingredients. I'm thinking ... don't you have to start on the sauce, this morning?

& then I think, ok ... maybe she's taking a short cut and using Michael's of Brooklyn sauce ... or maybe even Rao's. I can live that, one time.

When I got home and saw the 2 large bottles of Ragu sauce, I lost it.

Reminds me about when my father and mother got married. My mother had been brought up as a “lady” and she was not even allowed to go into the kitchen because she could “get kitchen smells on her clothing”. My father’s mother was a farmer and not only did she do her own cooking but grew her own vegetables, and had her own chickens etc too. My mother would bravely attempt to make some meals which were disastrous but my dad managed to swallow them down somehow. Mom said, that’s how it was made where she came from.

A year later, my parents were invited to stay at my mother’s parents but my dad was very unwilling to go thinking he is never going to be able to eat a bite. But he really cared for my mother and decided to go anyways for her sake. To his great surprise his mother-in-law made delicious meals for them and that is when my dad realized that my mother simply didn’t know how to cook. When they went back to his mother’s house dad’s mother gently and persistently taught my mother how to cook. And how to enjoy cooking.

My dad never gave up on mom. She was the love of his life to the day he died. And vice versa.

[JMintzer]

LOL…I agree. I didn’t realize before moving here how many food critics lived in The Villages.

I think you meant food "snobs'...

[John Mayes]

I think you meant food "snobs'...

Yea, probably more accurate.

[Sabella]

Been there a few times and the pizza is rather good.

Are you really from New York City?

[BrianL99]

Isn't the largest segment of the pop from the Northeast......NY, NJ, etc., where all the food experts are from??

:evil6:


I've had a home in FL for 20 years, 15 in the Tampa area.

In my experience, the majority of Snowbirds in Tampa are from the Northeast and Canada.

Until moving to TV (to my knowledge), I had never met anyone from Iowa, Nebraska, Utah, Oregon, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, Kansas, the Dakotas, Montana, Missouri. Arkansas.

A gross generalization and strictly anecdotal:

People from the Northeast, generally don't seem to move too far away from an ocean (most everyone I met in Sarasota/Ft. Myers/Naples is from the Northeast).

Folks in "middle America" never lived by an ocean, so they're not biased and TV works just fine for them.

& I think the "food experts" are from the more metropolitan areas and don't have much experience living on a farm.

[Hape2Bhr]

It's South Harmon....btw.

Again, if you're ok with institutional mashed potatoes and canned green beans (lazy)....all the power to you. Hopefully you dont frequent those types of spots that do....with fam/friends or clients and expect the same enthusiasm.
To repeat...mediocrity is an accepted expectation by many here.

Apologies; I assumed you had dined at the North Harmon location which is well below Mallory's level.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I've had a home in FL for 20 years, 15 in the Tampa area.

In my experience, the majority of Snowbirds in Tampa are from the Northeast and Canada.

Until moving to TV (to my knowledge), I had never met anyone from Iowa, Nebraska, Utah, Oregon, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, Kansas, the Dakotas, Montana, Missouri. Arkansas.

A gross generalization and strictly anecdotal:

People from the Northeast, generally don't seem to move too far away from an ocean (most everyone I met in Sarasota/Ft. Myers/Naples is from the Northeast).

Folks in "middle America" never lived by an ocean, so they're not biased and TV works just fine for them.

& I think the "food experts" are from the more metropolitan areas and don't have much experience living on a farm.

Uh oh....this may trigger some of our faux ‘critical thinkers’!

[dewilson58]

I've had a home in FL for 20 years, 15 in the Tampa area.

You're not in Kansas anymore Toto..........Look at TV phonebook.
The largest segments are from the NE......NY, NJ, etc.
Example: Iowa less than 1,000 with NY thousands.
All the great food experts living in & supporting TV.

[Shipping up to Boston]

You're not in Kansas anymore Toto..........Look at TV phonebook.
The largest segments are from the NE......NY, NJ, etc.
Example: Iowa less than 1,000 with NY thousands.
All the great food experts living in & supporting TV.

I agree with your last sentence
The posters point stands up to reason. Those from metropolitan areas are exposed to more diverse and non chain culinary options. Therefore, by default they bring a more expanded and educated view of the dining ‘landscape ’....
in comparison anyway. Not that gator nuggets and key lime pie is not topical, it’s just a shorter thread on here.

[dewilson58]

I agree with your last sentence
The posters point stands up to reason.

This is the poster's statement:
Given The Villages is the largest displaced population of middle America, I often wonder if that's just how middle America eats on a regular basis. Maybe they just don't know the difference in Peoria?

Which is incorrect (& a slam).

[BrianL99]

This is the poster's statement:
Given The Villages is the largest displaced population of middle America, I often wonder if that's just how middle America eats on a regular basis. Maybe they just don't know the difference in Peoria?

Which is incorrect (& a slam).


Where is it incorrect?

Go walk around Naples/Sarasota/Ft. Myers and ask folks where they're from. The vast majority are from major metropolitan areas. (for simplicity sake, "blue states").

Walk around TV and you'll find a disproportionate number of folks from middle America ("red states").

PA, OH, ID, MI perhaps being exceptions.

& I don't mean to start anything political, merely to illustrate the migration pattern in a logical, visual way.

[Shipping up to Boston]

This is the poster's statement:
Given The Villages is the largest displaced population of middle America, I often wonder if that's just how middle America eats on a regular basis. Maybe they just don't know the difference in Peoria?

Which is incorrect (& a slam).

He can answer that for himself. I think there was a little sarcasm built into it but even you know how well that goes on here.
My interpretation of it was NOT that middle America represents the majority of TV....but it’s a population nonetheless. Of course the NorthEast has the larger demo....not just in TV, but in FL.
As far as the rest of his post, and my response to yours, I stand by it. I don’t see the ‘slam’ unless he said Chicago....but that’s just me

[BrianL99]

He can answer that for himself. I

My interpretation of it was NOT that middle America represents the majority of TV....but it’s a population nonetheless. Of course the NorthEast has the larger demo....not just in TV, but in FL.


TV is home to disproportionate number of middle Americans. Sociology & Demographics 101.

Cost. Distance from the coast. Business model. TV was created to appeal to middle America and they did a great job at it.

[fdpaq0580]

Everything was better back where you came from. Everything was better in the good old days.
Even I was better in the good old days, back where I came from.
If it tastes OK, eat it, and enjoy it. Things could be worse.
😉

[John Mayes]

He can answer that for himself. I think there was a little sarcasm built into it but even you know how well that goes on here.
My interpretation of it was NOT that middle America represents the majority of TV....but it’s a population nonetheless. Of course the NorthEast has the larger demo....not just in TV, but in FL.
As far as the rest of his post, and my response to yours, I stand by it. I don’t see the ‘slam’ unless he said Chicago....but that’s just me

I’m sure BrianL didn’t mean it as a slam but most people from the mid-states take comments like those made about Peoria as put-downs.

The sentiment about the fly over states that seep out occasionally from the coastal regions, both east and west, are not fondly regarded by those living in the midwest, southwest and southeast.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I’m sure BrianL didn’t mean it as a slam but most people from the mid-states take comments like those made about Peoria as put-downs.

The sentiment about the fly over states that seep out occasionally from the coastal regions, both east and west, are not fondly regarded by those living in the midwest, southwest and southeast.

I guess I understand your point....will say I didn’t know ‘Peoria’ was a trigger in that context. You learn something new everyday.
Having personally lived and worked in the southeast (SC) specifically, I have always said the war between the north and the south is still alive and well. Except on this forum, the slings and arrows are usually coming from the transplants that left those areas you mentioned.....and as a way to pump their tires (feel better about their move) they bash from whence they came. I’ll engage even that low wattage commentary...but in the bigger picture, I split my time between the two so I can differentiate a troll vs an actual boot on the ground account. It’s all relative.

*present company excluded (generalization)

[justjim]

The Villages is the land of reduced expectations, when it comes to food.

Given The Villages is the largest displaced population of middle America, I often wonder if that's just how middle America eats on a regular basis. Maybe they just don't know the difference in Peoria?

Now you are tripping my trigger when you talk about the Midwest which grows most of the corn and soybeans that indirectly has something to do with feeding most of the United States of America and the world. We may not eat much at overpriced white cloth restaurants or care if the beans come in a can or not, but we do know some things like how to change a light bulb for example. Some of us even drove a tractor when we were thirteen years old. We also learned that when you throw dirt you lose ground.

Finally, we aren’t much of a food critic either. Did you know or do you care that half of the world’s population goes to bed hungry at night? Fore!

[It's Hot There]

He can answer that for himself.
As far as the rest of his post, and my response to yours, I stand by it. I don’t see the ‘slam’ unless he said Chicago....but that’s just me

His comment was 100% a slam.

Rather than generalizing and slamming, he should thank middle America for everything he eats.

We all (most I could say) put our pants on the same way.

The self appointed high-and-mighty are compensating.

[Shipping up to Boston]

His comment was 100% a slam.

Rather than generalizing and slamming, he should thank middle America for everything he eats.

We all (most I could say) put our pants on the same way.

The self appointed high-and-mighty are compensating.

Speaking for myself, if you read my posts, I’m all about sourcing farm to table. Whether that comes from middle America, Maine or Cali or Leesburg. As a self respecting ‘farmer’ you (generalization) should be offended when you go to a decent establishment and get served canned food. If that expectation is ‘compensating’, count me in as the guilty! That was my point since the beginning of this thread. As always on here, it pivoted to a North v South, us v them diatribe.

Btw. Not just you...but when you use a quote, don’t cherry pick and post it. Show it in its entirety. The manipulation of people’s words....thread blind...is so amateur on here.

[It's Hot There]

Btw. Not just you...but when you use a quote, don’t cherry pick and post it. Show it in its entirety. The manipulation of people’s words....thread blind...is so amateur on here.

Your rule/opinion..........not everyone's.

There was no cherry picking........my opinion, you can have one as well.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Your rule/opinion..........not everyone's.

There was no cherry picking........my opinion, you can have one as well.

It’s taking things out of context vs leaving all of it in there so not just you can be the judge and jury on it. You’re right, it’s not my rule....its basic fair practice. I have no problem with yours or anybody else’s ‘opinions’...just stick around long enough to defend yours.