Question about Dabney Area

[1957TBird]

Good morning,

My wife and I are looking for houses in the Dabney Area. While looking around Google Earth, I noticed what looks like a sewer treatment plant. Is that what that really is? If so, is there a smell in the Dabney Area?

[onfire]

It's the Leesburg wastewater reclamation facility, so yes a sewer treatment plant. I haven't heard of any odor complaints, it's a modern facility but still possible. The noise from the turnpike may be more of a concern depending on lanai orientation and wind direction.

[Altavia]

The Leesburg treatment facility was upgraded in 2022 and it's in process of being expanded.



Leesburg announces groundbreaking on $39.8 million wastewater project - Leesburg-News.com (https://www.leesburg-news.com/2023/11/05/leesburg-announces-groundbreaking-on-39-8-million-wastewater-project/)

[Two Bills]

I live in a rural area in the UK, and a local farmer is clearing out his deep litter pens and yards now his overwintered cattle are out at grass.
A new house owner, probably a 'Townie', and who is near to the farm, was in our village shop complaining about the smell.
The shop manager told him, "If you think this is bad, wait until August, when the contractors start spreading it on fields!"
It's a bit strong, but gone in a few days.
A bit like buying a house next to a rail line and moaning about the noise!
I love it!

[pauld315]

It's the Leesburg wastewater reclamation facility, so yes a sewer treatment plant. I haven't heard of any odor complaints, it's a modern facility but still possible. The noise from the turnpike may be more of a concern depending on lanai orientation and wind direction.

I agree. I would be more concerned with the noise from the turnpike. Remember, the turnpike never sleeps.

[Lottoguy]

If anything gives you pause about a certain area in these new sections then look into other areas. Your first instinct is usually correct. Don't rush into anything. Because it's a buyers market right now.

[vintageogauge]

If anything gives you pause about a certain area in these new sections then look into other areas. Your first instinct is usually correct. Don't rush into anything. Because it's a buyers market right now.

So you're saying wait until it's a sellers market?

[Michael 61]

I’m in Dabney quite a bit, as I have friends who have purchased there. I’ve never noticed any foul smells, nor have I heard of anyone bringing up the subject. As far as Turnpike noise, it’s more Lake Denham that abuts the turnpike, not Dabney. You’ll want to get down there and check out possible turnpike noise multiple times, and a different hours of the day and night. I’ve never heard turnpike noise when visiting Dabney or playing pickleball at. Dabney Rec Center.

[Kelevision]

Good morning,

My wife and I are looking for houses in the Dabney Area. While looking around Google Earth, I noticed what looks like a sewer treatment plant. Is that what that really is? If so, is there a smell in the Dabney Area?

There’s no smell.

[thelegges]

I agree. I would be more concerned with the noise from the turnpike. Remember, the turnpike never sleeps.

Is that a personal experience with living by the turnpike, or just passing on a rumor. We spent a lot of time in Enclave and it would be the quietest neighborhood I have ever been in since 2007. Early evening it’s so quiet could be a little unnerving in complete darkness

[frayedends]

Is that a personal experience with living by the turnpike, or just passing on a rumor. We spent a lot of time in Enclave and it would be the quietest neighborhood I have ever been in since 2007. Early evening it’s so quiet could be a little unnerving in complete darkness

Dabney is close to us in Lake Denham. I can’t say the noise is the same but the turnpike noise can be very loud depending on weather. When we bought in humid August we didn’t hear it at all. But in cooler clear weather it can be very annoying. We are part time so haven’t yet gotten used to it. But I’m sure eventually it will just fade into the background for us.

Never smelled the treatment plant. Technology is much better these days. Plus the plant is across 470, not super close.

[Stu from NYC]

Go there at different times of the day to determine if you will be happy there

[thelegges]

Go there at different times of the day to determine if you will be happy there

It’s not different times of days it’s different weather. Rain, heavy fog, wind, stillness.

We have four streets, if houses, a wall, and private property to the turnpike. In the house, in our lanai, or the pool we rarely hear any road noise

But beep beep from construction on Meggison at Richmond East which is about 2.5 miles away is clear as a bell.

Occasionally heavy fog, rain strong winds creates a hum, in front of house. People who visited have no idea the pike is in the general area.

What amazes them is hearing the train whistle.

Of course up north we live 4 miles from M-59 4-6 lanes and 5 miles from Oakland Airport, busiest commercial airport in Mi. Both have noise factor especially when they do maintenance on the plane engines at 3am. So pike noise not even on radar for any family visits.

My guess is those who live in very rural areas, noise from BV, Morse, or pike would bother them.

But many here come from cities that lights, traffic, airports, trains, and freeway is everyday noise that is Normal

[Stu from NYC]

It’s not different times of days it’s different weather. Rain, heavy fog, wind, stillness.

We have four streets, if houses, a wall, and private property to the turnpike. In the house, in our lanai, or the pool we rarely hear any road noise

But beep beep from construction on Meggison at Richmond East which is about 2.5 miles away is clear as a bell.

Occasionally heavy fog, rain strong winds creates a hum, in front of house. People who visited have no idea the pike is in the general area.

What amazes them is hearing the train whistle.

Of course up north we live 4 miles from M-59 4-6 lanes and 5 miles from Oakland Airport, busiest commercial airport in Mi. Both have noise factor especially when they do maintenance on the plane engines at 3am. So pike noise not even on radar for any family visits.

My guess is those who live in very rural areas, noise from BV, Morse, or pike would bother them.

But many here come from cities that lights, traffic, airports, trains, and freeway is everyday noise that is Normal

Was thinking mostly of road noise from turnpike. Going numerous times will show how noisy it gets depending upon traffic combined with wind direction

[Rwirish]

The noise from the turnpike is excessive. This is true of multiple areas south of 44.

[bowlingal]

how far is the prison from that area?

[Altavia]

Was thinking mostly of road noise from turnpike. Going numerous times will show how noisy it gets depending upon traffic combined with wind direction

The Turnpike Expansion will require sounds barriers.

[Marathon Man]

how far is the prison from that area?

No where near. Quite far in fact.

[Lottoguy]

Turnpike is getting a third lane, which means it will be louder.

[SeaCros]

Good morning,

My wife and I are looking for houses in the Dabney Area. While looking around Google Earth, I noticed what looks like a sewer treatment plant. Is that what that really is? If so, is there a smell in the Dabney Area?

It would be better to plan a trip to see/smell for yourself. Have to take the opinions and suggestions here with a grain of salt and if you move here or buy sight unseen (physically) would be a shame but not on the ones who already live there.
Good luck in your research.

[LeRoySmith]

I live in the area and I have not smelled the treatment plant, I have smelled a swamp or 2 in the area during dry periods. Wednesday (following taco Tuesday) can get a bit rough down wind of my old lady.....

[MidWestIA]

How close to the prison and quarry blasting

[merrymini]

Sound barriers are usually built when a new road or highway is put in AFTER houses are already built. If you build a house near an existing highway, they should not be required to build a sound wall and it would be at their discretion. To expect the state to spend millions of dollars on sound walls to accommodate people bothered by noise is absurd. You knew the road was there when you bought the house.

[Normal]

Do yourself a favor and skip it. There are 501 Zillow, 428 Redfin and 661 realtor.com MLS listings. Add to that the many, many new construction homes available in the Villages in this buyer’s market. The huge inventory problem gives you many advantages. Dabney should be the last choice on anyone’s radar.

[frayedends]

Sound barriers are usually built when a new road or highway is put in AFTER houses are already built. If you build a house near an existing highway, they should not be required to build a sound wall and it would be at their discretion. To expect the state to spend millions of dollars on sound walls to accommodate people bothered by noise is absurd. You knew the road was there when you bought the house.

Seems to be all sorts of opinions. Don Wiley thinks since they are expanding to 8 lanes, they will put in a barrier. Someone else posted that any new expansions requires sound barriers. But I doubt that is true or Don would have known that.

As far as sound being louder due to widening. Hmm, I don't expect more traffic. Just better accomodation of the current traffic. But new pavement seems to always be quieter than old stuff so maybe that will help.

[callalily]

Dabney is over 6 miles from the prison. Don Wiley seems to think that sound barriers will be put on the turnpike when it's expanded.

[frayedends]

Also, considering the info and speculation in Don's last Live video, Dabney could be a very good investment. I know, not a popular opinion on here. I've been told those of us in Lake Denham and Dabney live in a desert. LOL

But, what if, a sound barrier on the turnpike, a bridge over the turnpike at 470, and a tunnel under 470 at Chandler/470 intersection at Dabney, all done. Then you have easy cart access to Eastport and also to the commercial area south of 470 but north of the turnpike. And you have some sound abatement of the turnpike. 470 expanding but the new pavement there will make it quieter (current pavement in the Dabney area is practically gravel).

Of course, this will take a few years.

[Altavia]

Turnpike is getting a third lane, which means it will be louder.

Nope, they are adding 2 lanes each direction - total of 4 plus widening the shoulders.

[Princeton]

Good morning,

My wife and I are looking for houses in the Dabney Area. While looking around Google Earth, I noticed what looks like a sewer treatment plant. Is that what that really is? If so, is there a smell in the Dabney Area?
I live in Dabney across from the Dabney Recreation and postal area. on my street we do not have a turnpike noise. My brother lives in DeLuna and When he sits in his backyard. It’s so noisy. so I specifically came down and spent some time in the area to make sure it wasn’t bad. There are no smells. I also love shopping in Lake Harris. It’s literally five minutes down the road.

[LeRoySmith]

The ability to buy or keep insurance is something that's not mentioned much during these discussions. There are several threads where people are worried about being able to buy or keep homeowners insurance. One of the many benefits of the newer houses is they should meet the more recent building codes. As things change that tend could creep into the newest of neighborhood in time. Safe for now.

[Altavia]

Sound barriers are usually built when a new road or highway is put in AFTER houses are already built. If you build a house near an existing highway, they should not be required to build a sound wall and it would be at their discretion. To expect the state to spend millions of dollars on sound walls to accommodate people bothered by noise is absurd. You knew the road was there when you bought the house.



The are adding 4 lanes to the Turnpike which has required the addition of sound barriers through areas less congested than here along the Turnpike.

More info here:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/turnpike-widening-us27-i75-349261/

[Mass288]

Do yourself a favor and skip it. There are 501 Zillow, 428 Redfin and 661 realtor.com MLS listings. Add to that the many, many new construction homes available in the Villages in this buyer’s market. The huge inventory problem gives you many advantages. Dabney should be the last choice on anyone’s radar. so your opinion is now like fact...ok cool. Lazy people looking lazy and foolish...it's amazing down here..haters gonna hate

[Normal]

so your opinion is now like fact...ok cool. Lazy people looking lazy and foolish...it's amazing down here..haters gonna hate

You are confused. I was just trying to clarify, “Why would anyone want to move to Dabney?” And really, why would they? There are a ton of options out there besides a remote village.

[LeRoySmith]

You are confused. I was just trying to clarify, “Why would anyone want to move to Dabney?” And really, why would they? There are a ton of options out there besides a remote village.

packaging and presentation are everything

[frayedends]

Do yourself a favor and skip it. There are 501 Zillow, 428 Redfin and 661 realtor.com MLS listings. Add to that the many, many new construction homes available in the Villages in this buyer’s market. The huge inventory problem gives you many advantages. Dabney should be the last choice on anyone’s radar.

You do, of course, realize that neither zillow, redfin, nor Realtor.com are brokerages and they simply pull the listings from MLS. They all have mostly the same listings. So you can't add all those listings up for a total.

Plus, if you see my previous post, lots coming to Dabney area if people plan to stay a few years. Bridge over the turnpike, tunnel under 470 to new commercial area, most likely. A 10 minute cart ride to Eastport isn't remote.

[Normal]

You do, of course, realize that neither zillow, redfin, nor Realtor.com are brokerages and they simply pull the listings from MLS. They all have mostly the same listings. So you can't add all those listings up for a total.

Plus, if you see my previous post, lots coming to Dabney area if people plan to stay a few years. Bridge over the turnpike, tunnel under 470 to new commercial area, most likely. A 10 minute cart ride to Eastport isn't remote.

There will be a bridge across the interchange of 470 and 91, but it is doubtful that tiny little golf carts will also be utilizing it. This isn’t Bexley Trail we are talking about. The Villages created a road with a golf cart path, and then after it was complete, turned it over to the county. 470 is already a county road and bridge. Its landings are on state owned easements. It’s a totally different 4 lane beast with 4 exit entrances to tend with and the possibility of toll installations as well.

[frayedends]

There will be a bridge across the interchange of 470 and 91, but it is doubtful that tiny little golf carts will also be utilizing it. This isn’t Bexley Trail we are talking about. The Villages created a road with a golf cart path, and then after it was complete, turned it over to the county. 470 is already a county road and bridge. Its landings are on state owned easements. It’s a totally different 4 lane beast with 4 exit entrances to tend with and the possibility of toll installations as well.

The Villages developer has the contract to build the 470 bridge over the turnpike. They are expanding this to 4 lanes so a completely new bridge will be needed. A golf cart path over the bridge makes sense. I trust Don Wiley's opinion.

Skip to 35:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFXi9oBVf0&t=3528s

[Altavia]

The Villages developer has the contract to build the 470 bridge over the turnpike. They are expanding this to 4 lanes so a completely new bridge will be needed. A golf cart path over the bridge makes sense. I trust Don Wiley's opinion.

Skip to 35:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFXi9oBVf0&t=3528s

Correct, as mentioned seveal places previously, pedestrian access is required for new bridges. Not a big leap to make them MMP's.

For example, the WEST ORANGE TRAIL BRIDGE REPLACEMENT provided a path similar to a MMP across the Turnpike.

I'm predicting the same for the old, south Warm Springs bridge. The power transmission lines were already relocated south.

These changes are budgeted for 5+ years from now.


We can inform people but we can't make them understand ;-)

[thelegges]

Was thinking mostly of road noise from turnpike. Going numerous times will show how noisy it gets depending upon traffic combined with wind direction

Pike noise is really determined by the weather, then the time of day. We set a trail camera on our lot before any building started, for 7 days. Humming during the day, or night, but if the wind was blowing away from our area, you have no idea pike is even there.

Areas that don’t have walls, Durning heavy fog or rain pike with very little traffic, it can sound like freight train going through at times.

Areas that has walls, the noise travels upward, so neighborhoods that live closer to the wall its quieter than at Clarendon recreation pool, that is at entrance of Richmond.

[thelegges]

Was thinking mostly of road noise from turnpike. Going numerous times will show how noisy it gets depending upon traffic combined with wind direction

Turnpike is pretty consistent, we set up trail camera for a week, before building started. unless you looked at the time you really didn’t notice much change in the humming, unless it was foggy or very windy

But we have walls next to the turnpike. Open areas are a different story. It’s pretty much the same anytime of day

[DrMack]

There seems to be MANY who are confused about who pays for what in Florida. News flash, the county pays for everything concerning your roads, not the mystical developer. Sumter county paid 50 million to the developer for Southern Oaks roads and the upgraded bridge. The developer initially paid for the construction, but then was paid back. There was minimal reimbursement from some state taxes. It was the main reason 3 commissioners lost elections a couple of years back.

I do hope for more bridges because we own in Dabney. Lake county hasn’t been clear on what’s going on but has to abide by the Sunshine law concerning public roads. Nothing has been released, so nothing has been determined about golf cart paths. I doubt our commissioners want a repeat of prison time like Sumter commissioners had.

If someone’s says they are putting a golf cart accessible bridge or not placing a golf cart accessible bridge in, they live off of conjecture. Zero announcements have been made on the subject. By law nothing can be done in secrecy.

[Altavia]

There seems to be MANY who are confused about who pays for what in Florida. News flash, the county pays for everything concerning your roads, not the mystical developer. Sumter county paid 50 million to the developer for Southern Oaks roads and the upgraded bridge. The developer initially paid for the construction, but then was paid back. There was minimal reimbursement from some state taxes. It was the main reason 3 commissioners lost elections a couple of years back.



No matter how you slice and dice it, the homeowners ultimately pay.

The Villages is adding three billion dollars a year to the local property tax base that ultimately pays for everything via the property owners.



By law nothing can be done in secrecy.

LOL - How long have you lived here?

Everything is decided and many things done before announced.

[DrMack]

No matter how you slice and dice it, the homeowners ultimately pay.

The Villages is adding three billion dollars a year to the local property tax base that ultimately pays for everything via the property owners.



LOL - How long have you lived here?

Everything is decided and many things done before announced.

Total 8 years in Florida part time between Lady Lake, Ft. Lauderdale and now Clearwater. I get what you say. The facts we know are that the developer will be reimbursed 6.5 million and a credit for the widening of the road to 4 lanes. The agreement could be amended at a later Lake Co. commissioner’s meeting! We will wait and see. Leslie Campione would make anything public if it helped her. I’m sure when modifications are made she will make a statement before minutes are released the following day of the monthly meeting.

Keep your fingers crossed

[Altavia]

Total 8 years in Florida part time between Lady Lake, Ft. Lauderdale and now Clearwater. I get what you say. The facts we know are that the developer will be reimbursed 6.5 million and a credit for the widening of the road to 4 lanes. The agreement could be amended at a later Lake Co. commissioner’s meeting! We will wait and see. Leslie Campione would make anything public if it helped her. I’m sure when modifications are made she will make a statement before minutes are released the following day of the monthly meeting.

Keep your fingers crossed

It's interesting to watch how things develop.

Turnpike design just started so not much solid expected fur 12 mo.

I'm betting the new interchange will be about a mile south of the existing ;-)

[thelegges]

You are confused. I was just trying to clarify, “Why would anyone want to move to Dabney?” And really, why would they? There are a ton of options out there besides a remote village.

Maybe the reason for all the houses for sale is they found a house and an area they loved, and moved to the new southern neighborhoods. Believe it or not there are many very happy people that live in Dabney.

Just because you think Dabney residents made bad investments, doesn’t mean they feel the same. After all, those residents chose the area, you didn’t back them financially, so why do you care so much?

We gave a long hard look at moving to Enclave, because it was to be the next Premier neighborhood. We changed our mind because it wasn’t to be a premier neighborhood only. It would have been house #5.