Should I avoid some Villages?

[MplsPete]

Everyone from a big city knows, there are some places you avoid, and some places you don't want to live; some are even nice areas, but they are close to not so nice areas.

While I understand there's probably nothing bad within TV, I am concerned about surrounding areas. Even bubbles have edges.

[vintageogauge]

Everyone from a big city knows, there are some places you avoid, and some places you don't want to live; some are even nice areas, but they are close to not so nice areas.

While I understand there's probably nothing bad within TV, I am concerned about surrounding areas. Even bubbles have edges.

There are "bad edges" everywhere in Florida. Once living in the state you will know where not to venture. All of the villages within TV are safe. You can easily look up crime statistics for all of the surrounding communities.

[dtennent]

I would worry less about the edges of the bubble than the noise coming from nearby highways, cart paths, pickleball courts, etc. Before buying, take some time in front and back yards and listen to the background noise. Lawnmowers, power washers can be heard anywhere. Having played golf on Southern Oaks, I would hate to live that close to the turnpike.

[Taltarzac725]

I recall that Talk Host had moved too close to the train tracks in the northwestern part of the Villages. And I have heard that some places near Florida turnpike can be rather noisy. And some areas have problems with lights.

[GpaVader]

Having grown up in North Minneapolis, I think I know what you are referring to and would be happy to tell you that you won't really find that here. Take the advice of others and spend sometime in the area you think you want to live in. Do it at different times of the day and have an idea of what's most important to you, if its quietness, close to things or maybe you don't mind a little drive to get to something.

The biggest thing I had to get used to here when moving from Mpls, was this is more like a small town. Outside of the big box stores, many things close early and are not open on the weekends or sometimes just not on Sunday's. Great example is Hardware stores, I love going to Ace but if I don't get there before 6pm or if it's Sunday, I need to plan to go to Lowe's or Home Depot....

[Stu from NYC]

I personally would avoid being too close to the turnpike or quarry but we are all different and what we would do others might not

[Dusty_Star]

I also did not want to be on an edge of The Villages. The reason mostly being any non-Villages property could be developed into anything. A beautiful country view could turn into high rise apartments or a restaurant, or anything. If you purchase within a Village you will be able to see what you get.

[villagetinker]

One other word of caution: be wary of any location that has an open field behind it. In the future you will have no idea of what might end up in that field and you will have no control over that change unless you buy the field. This would generally apply to locations along the outside of the villages, but there are occasional interior lots NOT owned by the villages and therefore not under their control.

[tophcfa]

One other word of caution: be wary of any location that has an open field behind it. In the future you will have no idea of what might end up in that field and you will have no control over that change unless you buy the field. This would generally apply to locations along the outside of the villages, but there are occasional interior lots NOT owned by the villages and therefore not under their control.

That’s very good advice. Parcels of land can also have their zoning changed, so don’t rely on current zoning status as protection. I will add that depending on your interests and preferred lifestyle, different parts of the Villages might be either more, or less, appealing to you.

[MrFlorida]

If you're talking about crime, then this is a safe place. Outside of the bubble is like any other town, has its ups and downs.

[Shipping up to Boston]

That’s very good advice. Parcels of land can also have their zoning changed, so don’t rely on current zoning status as protection. I will add that depending on your interests and preferred lifestyle, different parts of the Villages might be either more, or less, appealing to you.

Correct
Although I think if your property backs up to the power lines and the acreage around it...youre probably good on future development.

[walterray1]

Everyone from a big city knows, there are some places you avoid, and some places you don't want to live; some are even nice areas, but they are close to not so nice areas.

While I understand there's probably nothing bad within TV, I am concerned about surrounding areas. Even bubbles have edges.

Up front I will say the The Villages, as a whole, is a very safe and comfortable place to retire to and live. We bought back in 2006 and were snowbirds until making things full time in 2012. Add another 12 years (really how possible) and we still love living here. We were young 52 and 51 and felt like the odd ones. Never was a problem with great neighbors and eventually friends.

There should be a place and situation for anyone who desires a nice life and comfortable surroundings. This just could be it.

[Stu from NYC]

Correct
Although I think if your property backs up to the power lines and the acreage around it...youre probably good on future development.

True but who wants to be on top of a power line

[tophcfa]

Correct
Although I think if your property backs up to the power lines and the acreage around it...youre probably good on future development.

True but who wants to be on top of a power line

That’s why we bought with a wildlife preserve behind us. It can’t be developed, it’s part of the flood control system, without power lines but full of a beautiful variety of wildlife.

[walterray1]

We did the 3rd time around as well. Best decision ever.

[Topspinmo]

Everyone from a big city knows, there are some places you avoid, and some places you don't want to live; some are even nice areas, but they are close to not so nice areas.

While I understand there's probably nothing bad within TV, I am concerned about surrounding areas. Even bubbles have edges.


I’d stay out of Orlando:22yikes: don’t believe me watch Orlando news.

[Two Bills]

I would avoid the Village of Winifred.
Priciest place to buy in TV!

[TEXJK]

You’ll be fine here no worries…….know if you own a dog and you let it take a crap in yard that’s another story !!

[Papa_lecki]

True but who wants to be on top of a power line

If you are talking about Crime, there are no villages you need to avoid, the entire Villages is very safe.

There are personal reasons you may want to avoid certain lots; but that. Is up to you - everyone has their own reasons.

[thelegges]

I thought OP was asking about is it Safe outside of the bubble of TV. Not what warnings of what village to live in, due to ________ don’t buy there.


So OP I will give you places We don’t feel comfortable driving, because if you are in TV walking it would take a long while to be out of the edges:pepper2:

Inside TV we still have a fair amount of wildlife, bear, bird of prey, bobcats, coyotes, fox and of course gators. Walking early morning or evening one should always be careful especially the woods, ponds, and the prairies.

Once you are outside of the bubble some neighborhoods, say behind Russell Stover make me a little uneasy. Wildwood Post office is in a strip mall, with an Ace hardware, that we frequent, we used to go to restaurant and little shops on 301 Wildwood, but parking was a nightmare. As I type they are building a prefab 2 story parking garage, but many little businesses have closed. But you have Miz Cathy’s, thrift shop, and the train store. Hopefully with the parking some mom and pop will come back.
Really outside of TV, Once a month we go to Gainesville and enjoy restaurants and shopping. Clermont, we go to Costco, 5/3 bank and restaurants. Disney is 50 minutes along with the rest of the parks. We travel occasionally to Ocala, and Orlando, like any city some parts are not where I want to be day or night.

But once thing to consider living in TV, pretty much anything you need is within TV bubble. Yes if you live south of 44 it will take you 20-40 minutes to go to the northern areas, but compared to our northern house quality shopping was more than an hour.

[elevatorman]

You may want to avoid areas where city taxes apply. Some villages are within city limits of Wildwood, Fruitland Park and others. Not only will you pay county property tax but also a city tax with no added benefits. Also some areas have higher bonds than others.

[mike234]

"Having grown up in North Minneapolis, I think I know what you are referring to and would be happy to tell you that you won't really find that here."

so, what is in north Minneapolis, that this person would not find here, and you think the person is referring to? can you enlighten me?

[VApeople]

You may want to avoid areas where city taxes apply. Some villages are within city limits of Wildwood, Fruitland Park and others. Not only will you pay county property tax but also a city tax with no added benefits. Also some areas have higher bonds than others.

That is a very good suggestion.

We bought our house in Osceola Hills in 2016. We pay tax to Sumter County but we pay no city tax.

In 2016, The Villages was also building new houses in Pine Ridge and Pine Hills. However, those houses were located in the city of Fruitland Park, and the owners have to pay a yearly tax to that city.

I recall a posting in which a new owner in St. Catherine complained about paying tax to the city of Wildwood. He said, "Why should I pay tax to Wildwood when it is several miles away from our house?'

I responded, "Go out your front door and look around. You are in Wildwood. You just didn't know it."

[BlueStarAirlines]

Think less about crime and what a village has/doesn't have. For example, we wanted a gas stove and prefer gas appliances to electric. When we started looking Chitty-Chatty was being built and looked there. Loved the village....but no gas.

We wanted to be closer to a turnpike on ramp, 301, and 75, so that put us on the west side of the Villages verses in the middle of The Villages.

As others have said, I'd stay away from open non-Villages fields behind you.....know exactly what is all around your home.

[Shipping up to Boston]

"Having grown up in North Minneapolis, I think I know what you are referring to and would be happy to tell you that you won't really find that here."

so, what is in north Minneapolis, that this person would not find here, and you think the person is referring to? can you enlighten me?

I think we all know what the poster was referring to.....


North Minneapolis | CURA Twin Cities Gentrification Project (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://gentrification.umn.edu/north-minneapolis&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjLkszX-YKGAxWOv4kEHbc2DWEQFnoECAYQAg&usg=AOvVaw1UQ-ZKRTkFiwF10y7FSUaY)

[mike234]

I think we all know what the poster was referring to.....


North Minneapolis | CURA Twin Cities Gentrification Project (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://gentrification.umn.edu/north-minneapolis&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjLkszX-YKGAxWOv4kEHbc2DWEQFnoECAYQAg&usg=AOvVaw1UQ-ZKRTkFiwF10y7FSUaY)
really? you are speaking for the o.p. and everyone else here? I have no idea what he was asking, and referring to. I asked the o.p.
thank you very much

[Nana2Teddy]

I thought OP was asking about is it Safe outside of the bubble of TV. Not what warnings of what village to live in, due to ________ don’t buy there.


So OP I will give you places We don’t feel comfortable driving, because if you are in TV walking it would take a long while to be out of the edges:pepper2:

Inside TV we still have a fair amount of wildlife, bear, bird of prey, bobcats, coyotes, fox and of course gators. Walking early morning or evening one should always be careful especially the woods, ponds, and the prairies.

Once you are outside of the bubble some neighborhoods, say behind Russell Stover make me a little uneasy. Wildwood Post office is in a strip mall, with an Ace hardware, that we frequent, we used to go to restaurant and little shops on 301 Wildwood, but parking was a nightmare. As I type they are building a prefab 2 story parking garage, but many little businesses have closed. But you have Miz Cathy’s, thrift shop, and the train store. Hopefully with the parking some mom and pop will come back.
Really outside of TV, Once a month we go to Gainesville and enjoy restaurants and shopping. Clermont, we go to Costco, 5/3 bank and restaurants. Disney is 50 minutes along with the rest of the parks. We travel occasionally to Ocala, and Orlando, like any city some parts are not where I want to be day or night.

But once thing to consider living in TV, pretty much anything you need is within TV bubble. Yes if you live south of 44 it will take you 20-40 minutes to go to the northern areas, but compared to our northern house quality shopping was more than an hour.

Just a minor correction… the train store (Nick’s Trains) closed many months ago. The owner moved to another location.

[MandoMan]

Everyone from a big city knows, there are some places you avoid, and some places you don't want to live; some are even nice areas, but they are close to not so nice areas.

While I understand there's probably nothing bad within TV, I am concerned about surrounding areas. Even bubbles have edges.

I’ve lived in two homes in my four years here. First was in Tierra del Sol South a couple hundred yards north of 466. Now I live in a courtyard villa five minutes north of the intersection of Buena Vista and 466A. I have NEVER seen a mosquito at either place. I think they get sprayed with insecticides. However, I have seen them near lakes and ponds north of 44 and at homes near them. South of 44, there seem to be mosquitoes at every home I’ve visited, including those not near water. I’d say that south of that line, you may want a birdcage if you are going spend time outside. Not necessary where I live.

Also, if you want a water view, bear in mind that what looks like water on maps may actually be a retention pond that is covered with vegetation and is home to lots of birds, bugs, reptiles, and mammals, from mice to bobcats. If you want to attract birds and other critters with a feeder, that is the place to be. Where I live, I never see a bird except mockingbirds. Nothing for them to eat.

[NotGolfer]

I'm familiar with the Twin Cities....our daughter used to live in "North" as they call it. We have other family members and friends who live in the "Cities" as well. We once did but it was in the early 70's. Back to our daughter during the day, in their neighborhood, it was quiet and lovely but once in awhile in the evening I remember hearing gun-fire and once looking out a man was walking in the alley and was staggering. He either was on drugs or alcohol or both. The grocery store also seemed sketchy in many ways. I was happy when they moved. I'm sure many areas have changed up there, that once were beautiful and safer than other areas. IF you've not visited here then don't over-think. We've been here nearly 15 yrs. Certain areas of Wildwood and Leesburg (or any city for that matter---any state or FL) has areas not to go to if it's worrisome to you. We're relatively safe in The Villages.

[Maker]

Is there a huge financial risk if the CDD that got sued over the white crosses?
If CDD does not win, are they on the hook for big$ lawyer costs, and damages? Are they already on the hook for their lawyer costs even if they lose because homeowner may not have $ to pay?
Wouldn't all the residents of that CDD have to pay?

So I would avoid buying there. Not worth the risk to me.

[golfing eagles]

"Having grown up in North Minneapolis, I think I know what you are referring to and would be happy to tell you that you won't really find that here."

so, what is in north Minneapolis, that this person would not find here, and you think the person is referring to? can you enlighten me?

I think we all know what the poster was referring to.....


North Minneapolis | CURA Twin Cities Gentrification Project (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://gentrification.umn.edu/north-minneapolis&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjLkszX-YKGAxWOv4kEHbc2DWEQFnoECAYQAg&usg=AOvVaw1UQ-ZKRTkFiwF10y7FSUaY)

really? you are speaking for the o.p. and everyone else here? I have no idea what he was asking, and referring to. I asked the o.p.
thank you very much

I'm familiar with the Twin Cities....our daughter used to live in "North" as they call it. We have other family members and friends who live in the "Cities" as well. We once did but it was in the early 70's. Back to our daughter during the day, in their neighborhood, it was quiet and lovely but once in awhile in the evening I remember hearing gun-fire and once looking out a man was walking in the alley and was staggering. He either was on drugs or alcohol or both. The grocery store also seemed sketchy in many ways. I was happy when they moved. I'm sure many areas have changed up there, that once were beautiful and safer than other areas. IF you've not visited here then don't over-think. We've been here nearly 15 yrs. Certain areas of Wildwood and Leesburg (or any city for that matter---any state or FL) has areas not to go to if it's worrisome to you. We're relatively safe in The Villages.

I guess that answers the question..........

[LaLaLuna]

I would worry less about the edges ....... Lawnmowers, power washers can be heard anywhere. Having played golf on Southern Oaks, I would hate to live that close to the turnpike.

They purposely put the golf course directly beside the turnpike to act as a buffer for the homes.

[rjm1cc]

Pay attention to the utility company servicing the area and the local town and county taxes. Cost can vary.

[Shipping up to Boston]

really? you are speaking for the o.p. and everyone else here? I have no idea what he was asking, and referring to. I asked the o.p.
thank you very much

I'm not speaking for the OP...or you! One drops an ambiguous post and another does what many others did....searched it. So like you, cant wait for the answer...

[coffeebean]

They purposely put the golf course directly beside the turnpike to act as a buffer for the homes.

Yet, there are lots of homes that are not buffered at all. Those homes are a stone’s throw to the Turnpike. I have seen those home as we drive by. All the discounts in the world would never entice me to purchase a home that sits so close to the Turnpike. But…… that’s just me.

[KSIMI10799]

Everyone from a big city knows, there are some places you avoid, and some places you don't want to live; some are even nice areas, but they are close to not so nice areas.

While I understand there's probably nothing bad within TV, I am concerned about surrounding areas. Even bubbles have edges.

Stay away from the stinky water treatment plant on Buena Vista behind Bacall Golf course!

[Bilyclub]

I would also be aware that occasionally the developer decides to do something else with the land they own. Ask the people that live by the Hacienda Championship course how that goes.

[MSGirl]

Everyone from a big city knows, there are some places you avoid, and some places you don't want to live; some are even nice areas, but they are close to not so nice areas.

While I understand there's probably nothing bad within TV, I am concerned about surrounding areas. Even bubbles have edges.

Take everything you know about being from a big city and throw it in the trash! You’re not in Kansas anymore! There isn’t a bad area here. Depends on what you’re looking for! If you want brand new, then you will go South of 44. Want to be close to shopping? north of 44 would be your thing. When speaking to a Villager, they will say they live in the best Village! And that’s true! Enjoy!

[Nancy@Pinellas]

I personally would avoid buying next to a pickleball court. The noise from pickleball can grate on one’s nerves.

[sallyg]

There are definitely some very depressed areas just on the other side of the fence from the Villages. You rarely, if ever hear of any property crime. Bad news is not good for selling houses. Check local counties to find crime stats. The streets and town squares are public so you are not in a gated, isolated community. Any one can access the Villages. Best advice we got - rent first. Acquaint yourself with the area more thoroughly before buying. The place is so huge, and growing day by day. It is hard to take it in until you are able to spend some time. Good luck.

[Lottoguy]

Some tips for you: Third lane now being installed on the Florida Turnpike. The road noise will then increase. Don't buy near the pickleball courts. That sound will drive you nuts. Avoid homes unless you have a pool that face south. That sun produces lots of heat on the lanai. Try and get a Villages that has access and exit via a stop sign, roundabout or stop light. During the winter when its busy you could have a hard time getting on the main road. Just ask the people who can't pull out and make a left on Morris just north of 466. More shopping is located in the north parts of The Villages.

[Burgy]

Think twice about a big corner lot and how far you might want to be from mail, main road, pool

[thelegges]

Some tips for you: Third lane now being installed on the Florida Turnpike. The road noise will then increase. Don't buy near the pickleball courts. That sound will drive you nuts. Avoid homes unless you have a pool that face south. That sun produces lots of heat on the lanai. Try and get a Villages that has access and exit via a stop sign, roundabout or stop light. During the winter when its busy you could have a hard time getting on the main road. Just ask the people who can't pull out and make a left on Morris just north of 466. More shopping is located in the north parts of The Villages.

Actually pike is going from 4 lanes to 8 lanes

[MplsPete]

I never intended this to be about power lines, turnpike noise, etc., but thanks for those comments.

On May 10, 2024, in a letter to the editor of a newspaper of TV, a resident of Caroline wrote about needing a fence, "... we do not want strangers to come into our private yard." They also spoke of "three fatalities" behind their home, and although this sounds like a traffic issue, who knows?

Okay, there's an area to avoid, no?

[VApeople]

Just ask the people who can't pull out and make a left on Morse just north of 466.

Yeah, we were warned about that in 2016. We definitely avoided having a house that would require us to turn left on Morse north of 466.

[Bwanajim]

I back up to small Swamp & turnpike. The noise really doesn’t bother me, it becomes background noise. I’m heard of hearing anyway. lol
I needed a big yard & a fence.
I’m fine with it

[tophcfa]

Yeah, we were warned about that in 2016. We definitely avoided having a house that would require us to turn left on Morse north of 466.

We have to, but it’s no big deal, there’s a traffic light where the entrance to our Village crosses Morse. Pulling out of our postal station can be a bitch, which is why I always get the mail at night when the traffic is very light.

[jimjamuser]

Everyone from a big city knows, there are some places you avoid, and some places you don't want to live; some are even nice areas, but they are close to not so nice areas.

While I understand there's probably nothing bad within TV, I am concerned about surrounding areas. Even bubbles have edges.
I assume that around the edges, crime leaks in.

[jimjamuser]

I would worry less about the edges of the bubble than the noise coming from nearby highways, cart paths, pickleball courts, etc. Before buying, take some time in front and back yards and listen to the background noise. Lawnmowers, power washers can be heard anywhere. Having played golf on Southern Oaks, I would hate to live that close to the turnpike.
As far a NOISE in TV Land goes, I think that the most consistent noise comes from Commercial lawnmowers and then GASOLINE golf carts. Replace those with Electric mowers and E-carts and we could enjoy a nice QUIET TV Land.

[VApeople]

Replace those with Electric mowers and E-carts and we could enjoy a nice QUIET TV Land.

I bet the brave people who have the courage to walk on an MMP much prefer the noisy gas-powered golf carts because they can hear them coming.

[tophcfa]

I bet the brave people who have the courage to walk on an MMP much prefer the noisy gas-powered golf carts because they can hear them coming.

Yup, my older brother is blind and he hates electric vehicles. He would have been run down more than once if it wasn’t for his wonderful guide dog.

[tophcfa]

As far a NOISE in TV Land goes, I think that the most consistent noise comes from Commercial lawnmowers and then GASOLINE golf carts. Replace those with Electric mowers and E-carts and we could enjoy a nice QUIET TV Land.

Somehow I knew that post was coming before it even appeared?

[Shipping up to Boston]

Somehow I knew that post was coming before it even appeared?

I often have no fracking idea what he's talking about!

[tophcfa]

I often have no fracking idea what he's talking about!

The sad part is that he doesn’t either.

[Normal]

There are "bad edges" everywhere in Florida. Once living in the state you will know where not to venture. All of the villages within TV are safe. You can easily look up crime statistics for all of the surrounding communities.

Orange Blossom should be avoided. They are talking about putting up a wall between it and the apartments complex going up.

Quote from latest article…” In 2023, a Griffin Road resident and several neighbors who reside along Tarrson Boulevard, voiced safety and security concerns regarding the approved apartment complex that will be constructed in the wooded area across from their properties on Griffin Avenue on the Historic Side of The Villages. Residents said it is a high traffic area with safety concerns, adding that there have been multiple thefts that neighbors currently feel very exposed with just a four-board wooden fence barrier.”
https://www.**************.com/2024/05/09/villagers-want-wall-to-shield-them-from-looming-apartment-complex/

Another “edge” I would avoid is the southern border of Lake Deaton. 44A is ripe for more than one project and there is still the largest pickleball court in the area with 4 story hotel that will be going in.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Orange Blossom should be avoided. They are talking about putting up a wall between it and the apartments complex going up.

Quote from latest article…” In 2023, a Griffin Road resident and several neighbors who reside along Tarrson Boulevard, voiced safety and security concerns regarding the approved apartment complex that will be constructed in the wooded area across from their properties on Griffin Avenue on the Historic Side of The Villages. Residents said it is a high traffic area with safety concerns, adding that there have been multiple thefts that neighbors currently feel very exposed with just a four-board wooden fence barrier.”
https://www.**************.com/2024/05/09/villagers-want-wall-to-shield-them-from-looming-apartment-complex/

Normal.....i like your posts and your intelligence. This one is super selective. Should the people that live in the Village where Mr Savage pounded out his gf in the driveway...on a Ring camera (video that was posted/commented on here)....should that be avoided as well? I can cherry pick the crime logs too. The Historic District (OB) is a nice neighborhood. What you're referring to with 'the wall' is probably a Karen/Darren proposal. Those 'crimes' don't rise to a Berlin Wall type response. But since all we talk about is bushes, walls and fences between our properties and our neighbors....why should the OB residents do any less. There...i came full circle!

[margaretmattson]

I never intended this to be about power lines, turnpike noise, etc., but thanks for those comments.

On May 10, 2024, in a letter to the editor of a newspaper of TV, a resident of Caroline wrote about needing a fence, "... we do not want strangers to come into our private yard." They also spoke of "three fatalities" behind their home, and although this sounds like a traffic issue, who knows?

Okay, there's an area to avoid, no?Several apartment buildings have been built and several more to come. This means a constant flow of transients coming and going. When purchasing a home, pay attention to your surroundings. If you sense an area may be troublesome, stay away! It only takes one or a few to bring havoc to your neighborhood. Remember: The Villages is not a gated community. Anyone can get in or out at any time of the day.

Having said that, there hasn't been much crime in the Villages. But, this doesn't mean you shouldn't keep your guard up. Again, if you feel uncomfortable in an area, STAY AWAY! There are plenty of homes on the market to choose from.

[margaretmattson]

Normal.....i like your posts and your intelligence. This one is super selective. Should the people that live in the Village where Mr Savage pounded out his gf in the driveway...on a Ring camera (video that was posted/commented on here)....should that be avoided as well? I can cherry pick the crime logs too. The Historic District (OB) is a nice neighborhood. What you're referring to with 'the wall' is probably a Karen/Darren proposal. Those 'crimes' don't rise to a Berlin Wall type response. But since all we talk about is bushes, walls and fences between our properties and our neighbors....why should the OB residents do any less. There...i came full circle!What the heck is a Darren? I volunteer in a youth organization and was given the definition of a Karen by the kids. "Anyone only CARIN' about their own comfort." This could be male or female. I never heard of a Darren. Is this something new?

[Shipping up to Boston]

What the heck is a Darren? I volunteer in a youth organization and was given the definition of a Karen by the kids. "Anyone only CARIN' about their own comfort." This could be male or female. I never heard of a Darren. Is this something new?

Not new.
The kids calling you that is not an endearing term. Just sayin'!

[margaretmattson]

Not new.
The kids calling you that is not an endearing term. Just sayin'!Huh? They didn't call me a Karen. I heard it used several ways so I asked the kids what the true meaning was and why it is called a Karen.

I was told. "Anyone who is only CARIN' about their own comfort." Get it? Caring too much about themselves with little regard for others. Karen! A different spelling for Caring. This could be male or female.

In this instance, a group of people concerned about their safety and would like to replace their fence with a stronger fence is not a karen. A KAREN would want a large fence erected around the entire apartment complex so not to be inconvenienced.

Back to my question. What is a Darren? A daring person? As in, he was DARIN' when he should of kept his mouth shout? Seriously, this is the first time I heard of a Darren. (I guess I will have to ask the kids. Lol. I'm just a granny who is not hip to the new lingo)

[Djean1981]

Correct. If you live anywhere near a multimodal path you will hear (and smell) gas golf carts going by all day long..

[Ele201]

I’m going to keep this short: The Villages are safe. That’s a key reason people like myself came to live here. I spent almost my entire adult life in Manhattan, so I know big cities. TV is like living in a “bubble.” I really don’t know of an unsafe Village or area of TV.

[RICH1]

Everyone from a big city knows, there are some places you avoid, and some places you don't want to live; some are even nice areas, but they are close to not so nice areas.

While I understand there's probably nothing bad within TV, I am concerned about surrounding areas. Even bubbles have edges.
ALL , avoid them all

[coleprice]

Golfers shopping for homes in The Villages should NOT purchase a New Home in the Southern Areas, which lack enough Executive Golf Courses. Rather, they should buy a pre-owned home in the Middle or Northern areas which have plenty of Executive golf courses nearby. Also, the Bond is usually paid off on homes in the North and Middle areas, plus you are MUCH CLOSER to Shopping & Restaurants.

[Marathon Man]

Golfers shopping for homes in The Villages should NOT purchase a New Home in the Southern Areas, which lack enough Executive Golf Courses. Rather, they should buy a pre-owned home in the Middle or Northern areas which have plenty of Executive golf courses nearby. Also, the Bond is usually paid off on homes in the North and Middle areas, plus you are MUCH CLOSER to Shopping & Restaurants.

We live south of 44. We rarely have trouble getting a tee time in the execs. We have more trouble getting onto Southern Oaks. It is terrific shape. I have played with several golfers who came down from the north to play it because of its condition.

And, more importantly - Many of the courses further north are in terrible condition. The five execs south of 44 are all the great shape. Also, additional courses are being constructed right now.

Golf is great in the south, and it is going to be even better soon. That is from someone who actually plays here.

[Randall55]

We live south of 44. We rarely have trouble getting a tee time in the execs. We have more trouble getting onto Southern Oaks. It is terrific shape. I have played with several golfers who came down from the north to play it because of its condition.

And, more importantly - Many of the courses further north are in terrible condition. The five execs south of 44 are all the great shape. Also, additional courses are being constructed right now.

Golf is great in the south, and it is going to be even better soon. That is from someone who actually plays here.One would expect new golf courses to be in great shape.We can only hope they remain that way.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I never intended this to be about power lines, turnpike noise, etc., but thanks for those comments.

On May 10, 2024, in a letter to the editor of a newspaper of TV, a resident of Caroline wrote about needing a fence, "... we do not want strangers to come into our private yard." They also spoke of "three fatalities" behind their home, and although this sounds like a traffic issue, who knows?

Okay, there's an area to avoid, no?

It's BEHIND their house, on a public road, separated by fencing and bushes/trees/shrubs. Just like any house in any suburban neighborhood that backs to a secondary road (it's not a main street like 441 or 466, it's a secondary road, like Griffin or Rolling Acres).

Strangers aren't going into their back yard. The homeowners are just overly paranoid, think that THEIR house is more worth bad people coming to trespass than their neighbors' houses (who obviously aren't obsessed with that kind of fear since they're fine with their short fences and shrubs). They're fixing a problem that doesn't exist, and are upset because the CDD won't pay for it.

This is a community of old people. At some point, someone will die on YOUR block. Are you going to then complain that it's not a safe neighborhood because there's already been a death on your own block? That's what's happening with the people in Caroline. They're just spinning things to justify their obsession. There might have been 3 deaths on a secondary road, which stretches a couple of miles long, that is /not/ in The Villages. I don't know if that's true or not. It's certainly possible. But where that homeowner lives, there is no entrance to her neighborhood from that secondary road. And if she just stopped drawing SO MUCH ATTENTION to her property by barricading it with high dark blockade walls and "K-9 Protection" signs all over the walls, maybe people would stop wondering what she's hiding behind those walls that she needs to make such a huge fuss about it.

THAT is what will attract the burglars. She's putting a target on her back yard, and then whining about being worried about being robbed.

[Pachine58]

Go get the app for your phone called spotcrime. It shows you in real time the areas that have crime issues. Biggest problem I see here is people who should not be driving because of loss of ability and people who drink and get behind the wheel.

[Shipping up to Boston]

It's BEHIND their house, on a public road, separated by fencing and bushes/trees/shrubs. Just like any house in any suburban neighborhood that backs to a secondary road (it's not a main street like 441 or 466, it's a secondary road, like Griffin or Rolling Acres).

Strangers aren't going into their back yard. The homeowners are just overly paranoid, think that THEIR house is more worth bad people coming to trespass than their neighbors' houses (who obviously aren't obsessed with that kind of fear since they're fine with their short fences and shrubs). They're fixing a problem that doesn't exist, and are upset because the CDD won't pay for it.

This is a community of old people. At some point, someone will die on YOUR block. Are you going to then complain that it's not a safe neighborhood because there's already been a death on your own block? That's what's happening with the people in Caroline. They're just spinning things to justify their obsession. There might have been 3 deaths on a secondary road, which stretches a couple of miles long, that is /not/ in The Villages. I don't know if that's true or not. It's certainly possible. But where that homeowner lives, there is no entrance to her neighborhood from that secondary road. And if she just stopped drawing SO MUCH ATTENTION to her property by barricading it with high dark blockade walls and "K-9 Protection" signs all over the walls, maybe people would stop wondering what she's hiding behind those walls that she needs to make such a huge fuss about it.

THAT is what will attract the burglars. She's putting a target on her back yard, and then whining about being worried about being robbed.

@margaretmattson.....this scenario, coupled with my post....is a perfect example of what MY interpretation is of a Karen and/or Darren. It’s ambiguous and open to many other uses....this is mine

[margaretmattson]

@margaretmattson.....this scenario, coupled with my post....is a perfect example of what MY interpretation is of a Karen and/or Darren. It’s ambiguous and open to many other uses....this is mine I understood your interpretation and was not questioning your opinion. My question was "what is a Darren?" I never heard of it. Reading between the lines, I now think you have two names for the same thing. Karen is female and a Darren is the male version. You are the first I have seen do this. In my circle, a Karen does not need another name. It is ANYONE (male, female, or child) who cares only about themselves and their comfort level. They often whine and lambast when they do not get their way. Sorry, I wasn't belittling you. Just curious as to the meaning of a Darren. And, if I need to be on the lookout for one! lol

[harby]

After we moved 3 times (looking for a larger house) in TV and this is our last one(!), we r gladly living in Polo Ridge no matter how old it is, it s very much enjoyable and easy to drive and shop nearby (right by 466)...easy to get the hospital, Lowe's, Cracker Barrel, etc. with only one roundabout and without auto traffic jams from snowbirds or new below 466A residents and many roundabouts. North of 466 is ideal to live and accessible to shop nearby and very peaceful. Unless you just want a brand new house, fyi, many flooring arrangements/models are very similar to the old ones in TV. Chas

[jimjamuser]

Correct. If you live anywhere near a multimodal path you will hear (and smell) gas golf carts going by all day long..
I agree with the noise (AND SMELL) of gasoline golf carts. Older people have more lung problems like asthma.

[jimjamuser]

It's BEHIND their house, on a public road, separated by fencing and bushes/trees/shrubs. Just like any house in any suburban neighborhood that backs to a secondary road (it's not a main street like 441 or 466, it's a secondary road, like Griffin or Rolling Acres).

Strangers aren't going into their back yard. The homeowners are just overly paranoid, think that THEIR house is more worth bad people coming to trespass than their neighbors' houses (who obviously aren't obsessed with that kind of fear since they're fine with their short fences and shrubs). They're fixing a problem that doesn't exist, and are upset because the CDD won't pay for it.

This is a community of old people. At some point, someone will die on YOUR block. Are you going to then complain that it's not a safe neighborhood because there's already been a death on your own block? That's what's happening with the people in Caroline. They're just spinning things to justify their obsession. There might have been 3 deaths on a secondary road, which stretches a couple of miles long, that is /not/ in The Villages. I don't know if that's true or not. It's certainly possible. But where that homeowner lives, there is no entrance to her neighborhood from that secondary road. And if she just stopped drawing SO MUCH ATTENTION to her property by barricading it with high dark blockade walls and "K-9 Protection" signs all over the walls, maybe people would stop wondering what she's hiding behind those walls that she needs to make such a huge fuss about it.

THAT is what will attract the burglars. She's putting a target on her back yard, and then whining about being worried about being robbed.
I was robbed 10 years ago in the pre-Historic section. It was a break in while we were away and about $2,000 worth of power tools were taken. The Police did ZERO as far as results were concerned. I see very few Police patrols and the Community Service just wastes gasoline and would be better riding E-bikes around so they might actually see something.
------Overall, I can see why some people are anxious about their security here. They have some reason for it. And as the "Haves" get closer to the "HAVE NOTS" in the future, I would expect more incidents.

[jimjamuser]

I bet the brave people who have the courage to walk on an MMP much prefer the noisy gas-powered golf carts because they can hear them coming.
Many people here have such BAD hearing that a Railroad engine could sneak up on them while they were walking. Most bicycles and golf carts have horns.

[jimjamuser]

I often have no fracking idea what he's talking about!
Correct, me neither. He be very confused, but NOT us.

[VApeople]

Most bicycles and golf carts have horns.

From my experience on the walking/biking trails, many bikers do not use their horns to warn us walkers.

I have no idea about the people driving golf carts because I never walk on a road or path that allows golf carts.

[coffeebean]

After we moved 3 times (looking for a larger house) in TV and this is our last one(!), we r gladly living in Polo Ridge no matter how old it is, it s very much enjoyable and easy to drive and shop nearby (right by 466)...easy to get the hospital, Lowe's, Cracker Barrel, etc. with only one roundabout and without auto traffic jams from snowbirds or new below 466A residents and many roundabouts. North of 466 is ideal to live and accessible to shop nearby and very peaceful. Unless you just want a brand new house, fyi, many flooring arrangements/models are very similar to the old ones in TV. Chas

Many floor plans in the new homes are the same as the older villages models, just with different names. Same models have different names depending on if they are block construction vs vinyl siding construction. That is true in the older village homes between the 66s.

[coffeebean]

I agree with the noise (AND SMELL) of gasoline golf carts. Older people have more lung problems like asthma.

I find driving behind a gas cart in a tunnel is not pleasant. Besides the heightened noise level of the cart, the smell of gas is strongest to me.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

From my experience on the walking/biking trails, many bikers do not use their horns to warn us walkers.

I have no idea about the people driving golf carts because I never walk on a road or path that allows golf carts.

I don't have a horn on my bike. But I'm not shy about yelling REALLY LOUDLY if I need to alert someone to avoid a collision or other emergency. I have a strong "outside" voice.

[JMintzer]

True but who wants to be on top of a power line

Most building is done UNDER the power lines, so there's that... ;)

[JMintzer]

We bought our house in Osceola Hills in 2016. We pay tax to Sumter County but we pay no city tax.

I would definitely be cautious about buying there... Too many "sketchy" characters...

I should know, I'm one of them...:p

[JMintzer]

I back up to small Swamp & turnpike. The noise really doesn’t bother me, it becomes background noise. I’m heard of hearing anyway. lol
I needed a big yard & a fence.
I’m fine with it

Just goes to show you, there's an @ss for every seat!

[JMintzer]

Somehow I knew that post was coming before it even appeared?

Stevie Wonder saw that post coming! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Topspinmo]

I find driving behind a gas cart in a tunnel is not pleasant. Besides the heightened noise level of the cart, the smell of gas is strongest to me.

Then don’t tailgate! :oops:

[JMintzer]

The sad part is that he doesn’t either.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/zgs2puzMmSYAAAAC/oh-oh-snap.gif

[Topspinmo]

I don't have a horn on my bike. But I'm not shy about yelling REALLY LOUDLY if I need to alert someone to avoid a collision or other emergency. I have a strong "outside" voice.


I bet!:)

[JMintzer]

I understood your interpretation and was not questioning your opinion. My question was "what is a Darren?" I never heard of it. Reading between the lines, I now think you have two names for the same thing. Karen is female and a Darren is the male version. You are the first I have seen do this. In my circle, a Karen does not need another name. It is ANYONE (male, female, or child) who cares only about themselves and their comfort level. They often whine and lambast when they do not get their way. Sorry, I wasn't belittling you. Just curious as to the meaning of a Darren. And, if I need to be on the lookout for one! lol

A Darren is a male Karen... (I apologize for the gender assumption...)

[JMintzer]

Then don’t tailgate! :oops:

I know! Yes, I smell exhaust fumes when going thru the tunnels. THat's 5 seconds og my life which is soon forgotten...

"Be a Goldfish"

-Ted Lasso

[Glowing Horizon]

I recall that Talk Host had moved too close to the train tracks in the northwestern part of the Villages. And I have heard that some places near Florida turnpike can be rather noisy. And some areas have problems with lights.
Are the trains still blowing their horns at every crossing there? The trains can be ordered to not use horns (except to warn of danger if there’s a person or vehicle on the tracks.) Chicago suburbs have silenced the freight trains. The improvement was immense.

[Glowing Horizon]

The gas leaf blowers are over-used & far too loud too. The crews always seem to have one guy who rides the mower & another who leaf blows & a third who runs the weed wacker the entire time they are here. The lawn mower sets the pace since they all finish whenever lawn mower guy is done. What if the lawn takes 15 minutes but the blower & wacker really only need to work for 5 minutes each. They seem compelled to keep doing it rather than being a slacker IMO.

[jimjamuser]

The gas leaf blowers are over-used & far too loud too. The crews always seem to have one guy who rides the mower & another who leaf blows & a third who runs the weed wacker the entire time they are here. The lawn mower sets the pace since they all finish whenever lawn mower guy is done. What if the lawn takes 15 minutes but the blower & wacker really only need to work for 5 minutes each. They seem compelled to keep doing it rather than being a slacker IMO.
In my opinion, they all need to use rechargeable batteries for quiet and to save the people and animal species of the planet.

[jimjamuser]

I often have no fracking idea what he's talking about!
It is a good thing that there are NO rules about insulting other members of this fine community. Rules would limit our so VERY intelligent conversations.

[Glowing Horizon]

IMO battery technology is not a realistic substitute yet. Rechargeable batteries do not last long enough, take too long to recharge & don’t supply consistent power. While visiting Dallas, the Tesla charging station by NW Highway was constantly surrounded by angry young people who couldn’t even get into the charging lot while they awaited access to a port. Not enjoyable to regularly encounter. My friend drove her Tesla from TV to LV. Took her 4 days including several multiple hours-long charging stops while she was stuck in her car while waiting. No thanks.

[Shipping up to Boston]

It is a good thing that there are NO rules about insulting other members of this fine community. Rules would limit our so VERY intelligent conversations.

If ‘insult’ is another word for fact checking outrageous and inaccurate posts, like ‘the State of Maine is flat’ or ‘Astro turf is safer than grass’ kinda intelligent conversations .....I for one accept any punishment that comes my way