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frayedends
05-14-2024, 07:19 AM
I recall that the Enclave was the first new Premier area in some time. I didn't know people could build premier homes, but here is this one in Lake Denham. Hefty price too, without a pool.

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vintageogauge
05-14-2024, 07:45 AM
Terrible lot, the owners didn't live there very long.

manaboutown
05-14-2024, 08:16 AM
Small for a premier.

phylt
05-14-2024, 08:28 AM
$1.4M????

I've seen nicer homes around TV for half that price.... Is the lot worth $700k???

just sayin'.

dewilson58
05-14-2024, 08:32 AM
Terrible lot, the owners didn't live there very long.

And the owners are selling for more than twice what they paid last year.

frayedends
05-14-2024, 09:19 AM
Yeah it seems high. There are 2 resale designer homes listed in Lake Denham in the 800s. I’m interested to see what they go for. Of course I’m biased as my home is also in Lake Denham. The prices seem high considering we live in a desert. I mean it’s pricey if you have to charter a plane to get to a Publix or a town square. :D

vintageogauge
05-14-2024, 10:22 AM
And the owners are selling for more than twice what they paid last year.

Are asking.

dewilson58
05-14-2024, 10:26 AM
Are asking.

I kno, that's why I said selling............not sold.

:shrug:

Randall55
05-14-2024, 10:48 AM
$1.4M????

I've seen nicer homes around TV for half that price.... Is the lot worth $700k???

just sayin'.It is a tricky market. There are quite a few buyers with that kind of money to spend. But, THEY determine what is important in a home they will purchase. Some sellers walk away with a good amount of cash in their pocket. Others are not as lucky. They have to remain in their home, discount the price to get out, or take a loss if there is a need to sell. Sadly, some bought another home in the Villages BEFORE theirs sold (thinking they had an easy sale) and now they are stuck paying for both. There is money to be made, but not all will see it. The enormous inventory of homes is proof of this. It is a buyer's market and they call all the shots.

Whatever you do, be careful of buying a home significantly jacked up in price. Even if you LOVE it and have a healthy bank account. If you change your mind and want to sell, the task may be harder than you anticipate. Some homes are sitting for longer than a year without any interest. Even with several hefty price reductions.

Randall55
05-14-2024, 11:10 AM
Yeah it seems high. There are 2 resale designer homes listed in Lake Denham in the 800s. I’m interested to see what they go for. Of course I’m biased as my home is also in Lake Denham. The prices seem high considering we live in a desert. I mean it’s pricey if you have to charter a plane to get to a Publix or a town square. :DThe Bridgeport model that sold in Lake Denham has a semi private pond (shared with 2 neighbors) on a preserve lot. Some will pay top dollar for that kind of privacy. Stunning! The finishings inside were done extremely well. I wouldn't be surprised if the buyer places it back on the market with a million dollar+ price tag in a short amount of time. That is a rare home.

JMintzer
05-14-2024, 11:19 AM
It is a tricky market. There are quite a few buyers with that kind of money to spend. But, THEY determine what is important in a home they will purchase. Some sellers walk away with a good amount of cash in their pocket. Others are not as lucky. They have to remain in their home, discount the price to get out, or take a loss if there is a need to sell. Sadly, some bought another home in the Villages BEFORE theirs sold (thinking they had an easy sale) and now they are stuck paying for both. There is money to be made, but not all will see it. The enormous inventory of homes is proof of this. It is a buyer's market and they call all the shots.

Whatever you do, be careful of buying a home significantly jacked up in price. Even if you LOVE it and have a healthy bank account. If you change your mind and want to sell, the task may be harder than you anticipate. Some homes are sitting for longer than a year without any interest. Even with several hefty price reductions.

Same floor plan as a Designer "Robin" model, which is the same as the renamed Designer "Woodside " model. But it's been stretched a bit and has a 4 car (instead if a 2 + golf cart) garage. Waaaay overpriced...

frayedends
05-14-2024, 12:37 PM
The Bridgeport model that sold in Lake Denham has a semi private pond (shared with 2 neighbors) on a preserve lot. Some will pay top dollar for that kind of privacy. Stunning! The finishings inside were done extremely well. I wouldn't be surprised if the buyer places it back on the market with a million dollar+ price tag in a short amount of time. That is a rare home.

Mickel Terrace. Nice but I was surprised at the price. The lot has a pond and preserve view. But the walking trail is also on that view. The space for a pool is on the side. It’s a nice lot. It is pending as the original owner hasn’t had it a year yet. Won’t close until the year is up. But this is making at least $200K profit I believe. Go figure.

The 2 I mentioned are MLS listings. One on 1725 Van beck and the other on 6857 Baysinger. Just searched and Baysinger is FSBO for 799 now.

Shipping up to Boston
05-14-2024, 12:50 PM
On the OP posted home; guarantee if it sells at that price, it’ll be sight unseen. Not til potential owners step foot on site....will they realize they’ve been fleeced. Again, just my opinion

frayedends
05-14-2024, 01:13 PM
On the OP posted home; guarantee if it sells at that price, it’ll be sight unseen. Not til potential owners step foot on site....will they realize they’ve been fleeced. Again, just my opinion

I wish I had the cash to spend 1.4 million without even seeing it in person.

Shipping up to Boston
05-14-2024, 01:21 PM
I wish I had the cash to spend 1.4 million without even seeing it in person.

Just a hunch. Those types of deals happen more often than you think

Randall55
05-14-2024, 01:43 PM
Just a hunch. Those types of deals happen more often than you thinkThey often fail more often than you think, as well. Buyers will quickly purchase what they want. A windfall for the seller! But sometimes, homes attract NO ONE. It is best to buy a home that you can see yourself living in for years. Buying a home and speculating you will a make great profit quickly is not smart. I've seen many fail in their attempt.

You never hear these stories. If you visit MLS/VLS often, you will be able to spot them. They disappear when the realtor contract expires. Sometimes you will see them listed again after they have made some improvements. Others wait a year or so then try again.

Shipping up to Boston
05-14-2024, 02:05 PM
They often fail more often than you think, as well. Buyers will quickly purchase what they want. A windfall for the seller! But sometimes, homes attract NO ONE. It is best to buy a home that you can see yourself living in for years. Buying a home and speculating you will a make great profit quickly is not smart. I've seen many fail in their attempt. You never hear these stories.

Nobody keeps a photo album of failures in life....only the successes! ;)

Topspinmo
05-14-2024, 02:15 PM
Room for pool! :ho:for that price should have Olympic size pool.

Stu from NYC
05-14-2024, 03:48 PM
Do not understand buying a home before seeing it yourself

MrChip72
05-14-2024, 10:11 PM
Do not understand buying a home before seeing it yourself

Happens all the time. Many people are fine with looking at a floorplan. TV is one place where you pretty much know what you're getting when buying new.

Even though I walked through my house before purchasing, I was hesitant to buy in a new area as I wouldn't know how my neighborhood would look beforehand, but it all worked out.

dewilson58
05-15-2024, 05:12 AM
Room for pool! :ho:for that price should have Olympic size pool.

It's going to be a small pool..................few feet in back yard.

jimdecastro
05-15-2024, 05:36 AM
I recall that the Enclave was the first new Premier area in some time. I didn't know people could build premier homes, but here is this one in Lake Denham. Hefty price too, without a pool.

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/L60V.32?new&preowned&homesites&status&lng=-81.98019326735313&lat=28.86591360951103&lvl=1)

In Newell and Lake Denham Designer homes with 10 foot ceilings have been reclassified as Premier. They don't even need to be stretched or have lots that are larger. Just a marketing gimmick.

bragones
05-15-2024, 07:10 AM
Don't premiers typically have wainscotting, rounded corners, crown molding, etc. This home looks pretty bland for a premiere.

graciegirl
05-15-2024, 07:19 AM
I kno, that's why I said selling............not sold.

:shrug:

Check the sold prices of the homes on 466 at Bridgeport at Laurel Valley. Homes sold in the past year have all been well over a million dollars and one was over two million. I enjoy watching things like that.

MaryMS
05-15-2024, 07:28 AM
This home has a lovely view out the back, but can’t come close to the premier homes north of 44.
The floor plan and exterior facade on this look like the general designer homes that abound everywhere.
The older premier neighborhoods have bigger lots and much better floor plans.
Regretfully, the new areas south of 44 don’t measure up.

vintageogauge
05-15-2024, 07:31 AM
Check the sold prices of the homes on 466 at Bridgeport at Laurel Valley. Homes sold in the past year have all been well over a million dollars and one was over two million. I enjoy watching things like that.

There's one for sale on Conservation Trail currently for over 3 million. However, this high ceiling designer on a noisy corner lot with a busy street, and under 2,500 sq. ft., not to mention the floors, should be asking around $800,000.00

jojoturf
05-15-2024, 07:48 AM
One sink in master bath, electric stove & backs up to a small pond — thank you, our designer house 1 mile from Brownwood Square just appreciated!!

Stu from NYC
05-15-2024, 08:13 AM
There's one for sale on Conservation Trail currently for over 3 million. However, this high ceiling designer on a noisy corner lot with a busy street, and under 2,500 sq. ft., not to mention the floors, should be asking around $800,000.00

Wow

rsmurano
05-15-2024, 08:16 AM
Now, they are building premier home models in non-premier villages. In the Eastport area, you can build the “Warbler” premier model home on any lot that will fit it.
I would not like to be in an area that has vinyl homes next to my million $$ premier home.

Pat2015
05-15-2024, 08:17 AM
Yeah it seems high. There are 2 resale designer homes listed in Lake Denham in the 800s. I’m interested to see what they go for. Of course I’m biased as my home is also in Lake Denham. The prices seem high considering we live in a desert. I mean it’s pricey if you have to charter a plane to get to a Publix or a town square. :D
You do know that Publix from Lake Denham is about an 8 min drive right?

3105boy
05-15-2024, 09:06 AM
I recall that the Enclave was the first new Premier area in some time. I didn't know people could build premier homes, but here is this one in Lake Denham. Hefty price too, without a pool.

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/L60V.32?new&preowned&homesites&status&lng=-81.98019326735313&lat=28.86591360951103&lvl=1)
My Village agent said that all new homes over a certain square footage (2300?) would be called Premier. A lot of them look like Designer homes just bumped out - not necessarily more elegant.

frostola
05-15-2024, 09:29 AM
Doesn’t look like a premier to me, the home looks like a stretched Gardenia.

dewilson58
05-15-2024, 10:03 AM
My Village agent said that all new homes over a certain square footage (2300?) would be called Premier. A lot of them look like Designer homes just bumped out - not necessarily more elegant.

Your agent might want to refer to The Villages website............there are Premiers under 2300 and Designers over 2300.

There are Designers larger than Premiers.

:22yikes:

Joe C.
05-15-2024, 10:16 AM
Builder grade kitchen cabinets.....certainly not enough drawers. Home Depot lighting. Waaaaayyy overpriced. But someone will buy it.

asianthree
05-15-2024, 10:33 AM
My Village agent said that all new homes over a certain square footage (2300?) would be called Premier. A lot of them look like Designer homes just bumped out - not necessarily more elegant.

It’s not the sf that brings designer models to Premiere.

It's 10’ ceilings throughout the entire house, including the garage, lanai, foyer and outside entrance. All Doors interior and exterior are 8’ as well as the lanai sliders. All top of windows are also at 8’ height

frayedends
05-15-2024, 10:49 AM
I’m just wondering how they bought a premier home in Lake Denham before premier homes came back in the Enclave. In any case I don’t think it will sell for that price. Not without a nice pool.

asianthree
05-15-2024, 11:41 AM
I’m just wondering how they bought a premier home in Lake Denham before premier homes came back in the Enclave. In any case I don’t think it will sell for that price. Not without a nice pool.

When we and some had the ability to build homes, at the time were in designer model category. Some homes had option to add 10’ ceiling with no variation of height in any of the rooms or outdoor areas.
All interior and exterior doors, including sliders were 8 feet. All windows were at 8 feet height. Those designer model names were changed around 2020 for example to be either a Ivy or Ivy 10 ( 10’ Ceilings)

Ivy 10 no longer exist, but renamed Warbler

In 2023 any homes that were built of those specifications of 10’ walls and 8’ doors, were moved from designer model category to “ premier”category.

So home built with those specifications are now labeled Premier, even though at build they were designer home with 10’ modifications to ceiling height

Does that mean that the designer model that we built with 10 foot walls and 8 foot doors now cost more to build, because it has been moved into the premier Model category? Probably.

When we choose to list our house it will be listed as a “Premier” not a designer, 10. Hope that helps with why areas now have Premier on the listing

jimjamuser
05-15-2024, 01:51 PM
I recall that the Enclave was the first new Premier area in some time. I didn't know people could build premier homes, but here is this one in Lake Denham. Hefty price too, without a pool.

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/L60V.32?new&preowned&homesites&status&lng=-81.98019326735313&lat=28.86591360951103&lvl=1)
So, for $1.4 million you get a road (with who knows how much traffic) and a neighbor 5 ft away. .........i'll pass on that one. And it looks like no trees?

HORNET
05-15-2024, 02:41 PM
Money talks!

HORNET
05-15-2024, 02:45 PM
Before crossing over 466A, there were homes built in and on Designer Lots with Premier Interior fixtures.

JMintzer
05-15-2024, 04:17 PM
One sink in master bath, electric stove & backs up to a small pond — thank you, our designer house 1 mile from Brownwood Square just appreciated!!

You're confusing that bath with another. The Master Bath has 2 sinks...

JMintzer
05-15-2024, 04:19 PM
My Village agent said that all new homes over a certain square footage (2300?) would be called Premier. A lot of them look like Designer homes just bumped out - not necessarily more elegant.

That's odd... See my earlier post (#11). Same floor plan, same square footage with the designer and premier...

JMintzer
05-15-2024, 04:20 PM
Doesn’t look like a premier to me, the home looks like a stretched Gardenia.

It's a re-named Woodside model (4 BR, 3 BA)...

JMintzer
05-15-2024, 04:23 PM
So, for $1.4 million you get a road (with who knows how much traffic) and a neighbor 5 ft away. .........i'll pass on that one. And it looks like no trees?

5'? Hyperbole much?

frayedends
05-15-2024, 04:31 PM
So, for $1.4 million you get a road (with who knows how much traffic) and a neighbor 5 ft away. .........i'll pass on that one. And it looks like no trees?

Okay so the neighbor is 10 feet away (5 feet of land owned by each of them). The road won't have much traffic at all. The road only services a couple of streets. People exiting and entering that area will be coming from Megisson onto Basinger.

wolfie
05-15-2024, 04:34 PM
between the bond (45-70,000) and taxes about 10,000 to 14 I feel like I never left New York
:posting: