What place has the best cocktails?

[frayedends]

I mean, the best bartenders, and the best ingredients. I mean quality bourbons with demerara syrup, luxardo cherries, and good bitters. I mean they don't stock sour mix at all. I mean places that use lime juice and simple and don't stock Rose's sweetened lime.

I mean a place that if I ask for a classic daiquiri they won't look for strawberries and slush. A place that if I order a gimlet they will ask gin or vodka and what brand I prefer.

Maybe a place that asks if I want my old fashioned muddled or just stirred. A place that knows to never shake a martini unless a spy from Britain enters.

A place the dry shakes a drink with egg whites before the ice is added for shaking.

A place that has real grenadine, not Rose's red high fructose corn syrup.

Now, for the posts about to come... I know not to drink and drive. I know I drink too much. I know all about that stuff. I'm not looking for happy hours. I'm looking for quality. Bartenders that have come up with their own cocktails that make sense based on ingredients.

I want bartenders that measure! I want balanced cocktails.

Okay, so I did get all of the above at Harvest from a couple of bartenders. So far that is my favorite for drinks, but the food, while okay, not my favorite.

I've had good luck and bad luck at Bluefin. Once they used Rose's Sweetened Lime in my gimlet. I guess I can't fault them since classically it's made with lime cordial. But since's Rose's is crap it's better to have lime juice and simple syrup.

Oh and I'm actually okay with bottled lime juice or lemon juice. I'm not a drink snob after all. :1rotfl:

[mightymo]

You're not a drink snob?? WOW!!

[frayedends]

You're not a drink snob?? WOW!!

LOL I know. During Covid I built a bar in my basement. I had nothing to do but learn about classic cocktails and newer cocktails. I learned too much.

This is in Massachusetts. I certainly won't have it in the Florida house.

https://i.imgur.com/nVn71B2l.jpg

[shut the front door]

Be careful with your wording. Some folks are ashamed to be called bartenders, so they prefer the term "mixologist".

[frayedends]

Be careful with your wording. Some folks are ashamed to be called bartenders, so they prefer the term "mixologist".

I prefer my bartenders to be humble. :D

But if they are creating original cocktails I will call them mixologist.

[Stu from NYC]

Like marquaritas at Mexican restaurants but lately finish one and not ready to drive home so having to stop

[frayedends]

Like marquaritas at Mexican restaurants but lately finish one and not ready to drive home so having to stop

Another drink so often messed up by bartenders. So simple, 3 ingredients. Tequila, orange liqueur (Cointreau, Grand Marnier, or any good curaçao or triple sec, and lime juice. But so many ruin it with sour mix.

[Shipping up to Boston]

LOL I know. During Covid I built a bar in my basement. I had nothing to do but learn about classic cocktails and newer cocktails. I learned too much.

This is in Massachusetts. I certainly won't have it in the Florida house.

https://i.imgur.com/nVn71B2l.jpg

Why not?
Dont tell me it's in the deed restrictions! ;)

[frayedends]

Why not?
Dont tell me it's in the deed restrictions! ;)

More than likely space. But I will have an outdoor bar area eventually.

[Kelevision]

I wish there was a great cocktail place here. They did just open a Speakeasy in downtown Leesburg. They hired the mixologist from Miami. I’m not sure where it is exactly but it’s attached to a pizza place. If you kind of like Blue Fin and Harvest then try Prima across from Harvest too.

[Shipping up to Boston]

LOL I know. During Covid I built a bar in my basement. I had nothing to do but learn about classic cocktails and newer cocktails. I learned too much.

This is in Massachusetts. I certainly won't have it in the Florida house.

https://i.imgur.com/nVn71B2l.jpg

Why not?
Dont tell me it's in the deed restrictions! ;)

[frayedends]

Why not?
Dont tell me it's in the deed restrictions! ;)

I’m having deja vu.

[Stu from NYC]

Another drink so often messed up by bartenders. So simple, 3 ingredients. Tequila, orange liqueur (Cointreau, Grand Marnier, or any good curaçao or triple sec, and lime juice. But so many ruin it with sour mix.

I do notice that sometimes not enough lime juice

[Vickim]

I mean, the best bartenders, and the best ingredients. I mean quality bourbons with demerara syrup, luxardo cherries, and good bitters. I mean they don't stock sour mix at all. I mean places that use lime juice and simple and don't stock Rose's sweetened lime.

I mean a place that if I ask for a classic daiquiri they won't look for strawberries and slush. A place that if I order a gimlet they will ask gin or vodka and what brand I prefer.

Maybe a place that asks if I want my old fashioned muddled or just stirred. A place that knows to never shake a martini unless a spy from Britain enters.

A place the dry shakes a drink with egg whites before the ice is added for shaking.

A place that has real grenadine, not Rose's red high fructose corn syrup.

Now, for the posts about to come... I know not to drink and drive. I know I drink too much. I know all about that stuff. I'm not looking for happy hours. I'm looking for quality. Bartenders that have come up with their own cocktails that make sense based on ingredients.

I want bartenders that measure! I want balanced cocktails.

Okay, so I did get all of the above at Harvest from a couple of bartenders. So far that is my favorite for drinks, but the food, while okay, not my favorite.

I've had good luck and bad luck at Bluefin. Once they used Rose's Sweetened Lime in my gimlet. I guess I can't fault them since classically it's made with lime cordial. But since's Rose's is crap it's better to have lime juice and simple syrup.

Oh and I'm actually okay with bottled lime juice or lemon juice. I'm not a drink snob after all. :1rotfl:

Your looking for hand crafted cocktails don’t think you will find anything handcrafted in The Villages , unfortunately. Well, maybe Anglers club!
Which proves the folks that run Havana, Lopez and a few other restaurants ,ran by same folks, are capable but lacking the desire for quality.

[crash]

I mean, the best bartenders, and the best ingredients. I mean quality bourbons with demerara syrup, luxardo cherries, and good bitters. I mean they don't stock sour mix at all. I mean places that use lime juice and simple and don't stock Rose's sweetened lime.

I mean a place that if I ask for a classic daiquiri they won't look for strawberries and slush. A place that if I order a gimlet they will ask gin or vodka and what brand I prefer.

Maybe a place that asks if I want my old fashioned muddled or just stirred. A place that knows to never shake a martini unless a spy from Britain enters.

A place the dry shakes a drink with egg whites before the ice is added for shaking.

A place that has real grenadine, not Rose's red high fructose corn syrup.

Now, for the posts about to come... I know not to drink and drive. I know I drink too much. I know all about that stuff. I'm not looking for happy hours. I'm looking for quality. Bartenders that have come up with their own cocktails that make sense based on ingredients.

I want bartenders that measure! I want balanced cocktails.

Okay, so I did get all of the above at Harvest from a couple of bartenders. So far that is my favorite for drinks, but the food, while okay, not my favorite.

I've had good luck and bad luck at Bluefin. Once they used Rose's Sweetened Lime in my gimlet. I guess I can't fault them since classically it's made with lime cordial. But since's Rose's is crap it's better to have lime juice and simple syrup.

Oh and I'm actually okay with bottled lime juice or lemon juice. I'm not a drink snob after all. :1rotfl:
You left off you want it for $5 and only drink during happy hour. Most bars can give you what you want just ask and pay. Places that charge $11 to $15 in the Villages are closed.

[MandoMan]

I mean, the best bartenders, and the best ingredients. I mean quality bourbons with demerara syrup, luxardo cherries, and good bitters. I mean they don't stock sour mix at all. I mean places that use lime juice and simple and don't stock Rose's sweetened lime.

I mean a place that if I ask for a classic daiquiri they won't look for strawberries and slush. A place that if I order a gimlet they will ask gin or vodka and what brand I prefer.

Maybe a place that asks if I want my old fashioned muddled or just stirred. A place that knows to never shake a martini unless a spy from Britain enters.

A place the dry shakes a drink with egg whites before the ice is added for shaking.

A place that has real grenadine, not Rose's red high fructose corn syrup.

Now, for the posts about to come... I know not to drink and drive. I know I drink too much. I know all about that stuff. I'm not looking for happy hours. I'm looking for quality. Bartenders that have come up with their own cocktails that make sense based on ingredients.

I want bartenders that measure! I want balanced cocktails.

Okay, so I did get all of the above at Harvest from a couple of bartenders. So far that is my favorite for drinks, but the food, while okay, not my favorite.

I've had good luck and bad luck at Bluefin. Once they used Rose's Sweetened Lime in my gimlet. I guess I can't fault them since classically it's made with lime cordial. But since's Rose's is crap it's better to have lime juice and simple syrup.

Oh and I'm actually okay with bottled lime juice or lemon juice. I'm not a drink snob after all. :1rotfl:

Over a decade ago I dated a woman who, like me, appreciated properly mixed drinks. I read books on well made cocktails, and every weekend I would make us each one, using only fresh ingredients and the best liquors and following the recipe carefully. Then we rated the results. We each gave five stars to several cocktails. Those were added to the list. Some got four stars, or one four and one five. In that case we would discuss where the cocktail fell short and try to improve it. It might need another 1/4 oz. of this or that. Sometimes we developed a five star recipe. Sometimes we failed. Our favorites included the Last Word, the Widow’s Kiss, and a good Negroni. I like cocktails with very complex herbal liquors, like green chartreuse (not yellow) and Benedictine. A good cocktail should always be sipped slowly and savored. Never a mouthful. The only vermouth allowed in the house should be Carpano Antica. No other will do.

Try the Caipirinha, the national cocktail of Brazil. It MUST be made with Cachaça, not rum. (2 oz. of Cachaça, 1 tsp sugar, one lime, quartered, with sugar and lime muddled.)

Martini? 2 1/2 oz of Tanqueray #10 (not the regular Tanqueray), 1/2 oz of Carpano Antica. Thoroughly stirred or shaken.

But the original Martini was sweeter and also delicious. 2 1/4 oz of gin. 3/4 oz of sweet vermouth. Dash of orange bitters. Try it!

Mojito? 2 oz of light rum, 1 oz of lime juice, fresh-squeezed only, 2 tsp sugar, 4-6 sprigs of long-leaf mint. Muddle the sugar and mint with 1/2 oz of soda. Add lime and rum. Top with another 1/2 oz of soda. (Most mojitos are ruined with too much soda.)

Some drinks were never five star, and we weren’t able to ever make them worth drinking. Top of the list for drinks not worth drinking? The Cosmopolitan. Sex on the Beach. I’ve never had a good one.

Best fast drink for guzzling? Sobieski Vodka (better than Tito’s and much cheaper) and San Pellegrino Pompelmo (grapefruit) soda. A can of the latter and three or four ounces of the former. That is the only soda worth mixing with vodka. I have to order cases of it from Amazon, as it is hard to find here. That is the ONLY San Pellegrino worth tasting, and I mean the soda, not the flavored waters. It has the bitter taste of real grapefruit membranes.

I don’t know of any great bars around here that mix drinks accurately and use only fresh ingredients. Make your own!

[frayedends]

You left off you want it for $5 and only drink during happy hour. Most bars can give you what you want just ask and pay. Places that charge $11 to $15 in the Villages are closed.

I did specify I’m not looking for happy hour. I expect to pay for quality.

[golfing eagles]

Over a decade ago I dated a woman who, like me, appreciated properly mixed drinks. I read books on well made cocktails, and every weekend I would make us each one, using only fresh ingredients and the best liquors and following the recipe carefully. Then we rated the results. We each gave five stars to several cocktails. Those were added to the list. Some got four stars, or one four and one five. In that case we would discuss where the cocktail fell short and try to improve it. It might need another 1/4 oz. of this or that. Sometimes we developed a five star recipe. Sometimes we failed. Our favorites included the Last Word, the Widow’s Kiss, and a good Negroni. I like cocktails with very complex herbal liquors, like green chartreuse (not yellow) and Benedictine. A good cocktail should always be sipped slowly and savored. Never a mouthful. The only vermouth allowed in the house should be Carpano Antica. No other will do.

Try the Caipirinha, the national cocktail of Brazil. It MUST be made with Cachaça, not rum. (2 oz. of Cachaça, 1 tsp sugar, one lime, quartered, with sugar and lime muddled.)

Martini? 2 1/2 oz of Tanqueray #10 (not the regular Tanqueray), 1/2 oz of Carpano Antica. Thoroughly stirred or shaken.

But the original Martini was sweeter and also delicious. 2 1/4 oz of gin. 3/4 oz of sweet vermouth. Dash of orange bitters. Try it!

Mojito? 2 oz of light rum, 1 oz of lime juice, fresh-squeezed only, 2 tsp sugar, 4-6 sprigs of long-leaf mint. Muddle the sugar and mint with 1/2 oz of soda. Add lime and rum. Top with another 1/2 oz of soda. (Most mojitos are ruined with too much soda.)

Some drinks were never five star, and we weren’t able to ever make them worth drinking. Top of the list for drinks not worth drinking? The Cosmopolitan. Sex on the Beach. I’ve never had a good one.

Best fast drink for guzzling? Sobieski Vodka (better than Tito’s and much cheaper) and San Pellegrino Pompelmo (grapefruit) soda. A can of the latter and three or four ounces of the former. That is the only soda worth mixing with vodka. I have to order cases of it from Amazon, as it is hard to find here. That is the ONLY San Pellegrino worth tasting, and I mean the soda, not the flavored waters. It has the bitter taste of real grapefruit membranes.

I don’t know of any great bars around here that mix drinks accurately and use only fresh ingredients. Make your own!

Yep. Definitely not a "drink snob" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Priebehouse]

Mixing Popov and Tang ain't your thang?

[seecapecod]

I mean, the best bartenders, and the best ingredients. I mean quality bourbons with demerara syrup, luxardo cherries, and good bitters. I mean they don't stock sour mix at all. I mean places that use lime juice and simple and don't stock Rose's sweetened lime.

I mean a place that if I ask for a classic daiquiri they won't look for strawberries and slush. A place that if I order a gimlet they will ask gin or vodka and what brand I prefer.

Maybe a place that asks if I want my old fashioned muddled or just stirred. A place that knows to never shake a martini unless a spy from Britain enters.

A place the dry shakes a drink with egg whites before the ice is added for shaking.

A place that has real grenadine, not Rose's red high fructose corn syrup.

Now, for the posts about to come... I know not to drink and drive. I know I drink too much. I know all about that stuff. I'm not looking for happy hours. I'm looking for quality. Bartenders that have come up with their own cocktails that make sense based on ingredients.

I want bartenders that measure! I want balanced cocktails.

Okay, so I did get all of the above at Harvest from a couple of bartenders. So far that is my favorite for drinks, but the food, while okay, not my favorite.

I've had good luck and bad luck at Bluefin. Once they used Rose's Sweetened Lime in my gimlet. I guess I can't fault them since classically it's made with lime cordial. But since's Rose's is crap it's better to have lime juice and simple syrup.

Oh and I'm actually okay with bottled lime juice or lemon juice. I'm not a drink snob after all. :1rotfl:

There was an amazing bar and bartender in San Francisco where we experienced this- Bluefin? Harvest? The Villages? Nope.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Mixing Popov and Tang ain't your thang?

First Tang reference of 2024! America’s original ‘energy’ drink! ;)

[msilagy]

It's sad to say TV is not the place to find the cocktails you desire. Big cities with really fine dining (not in TV although they may pretend they are) Sorry!

[airstreamingypsy]

I've never understood the thirst for mixed cocktails..... this gal likes Stella beer, some wines and Tito's vodka neat.

[Ptmcbriz]

You should start a refined drink club and we meet one evening a week with members alternating hosting at their homes. Each week is a different targeted drink.

[Stu from NYC]

Considering what mixed drinks cost these days one would have hoped better quality and consistency

[bruce213]

Try the 1960s. Look for Don Draper.

[Robojo]

Your looking for hand crafted cocktails don’t think you will find anything handcrafted in The Villages , unfortunately. Well, maybe Anglers club!
Which proves the folks that run Havana, Lopez and a few other restaurants ,ran by same folks, are capable but lacking the desire for quality.

This highlights what I have been trying to point out to people at the pool. There is no real luxury in the villages. There is no real service in the villages. Heck there ain't even a towel service at the pool. Even the Marriott has that.

You're looking for quality. And you're not going to find it here.

[frayedends]

You should start a refined drink club and we meet one evening a week with members alternating hosting at their homes. Each week is a different targeted drink.

That is a great idea. When I’m full time I will do that.

[NotGolfer]

Funny how folks come from Big Cities and look for high-end everything. Food (restaurants) shopping, now alcoholic beverages. I bet most were like us when they came looking and those things weren't on "the list" of must haves. IF cost isn't a factor then maybe drive to one of Florida's big cities.

[Ecuadog]

... Our favorites included the Last Word, the Widow’s Kiss, and a good Negroni. ...

Try the Caipirinha, the national cocktail of Brazil. It MUST be made with Cachaça, not rum. ...

I like cocktails too. I hope you don't mind me asking...

1. Which Gin do you use for a Negroni (with the Campari and the Carpano Antica) and do you keep it at equal parts each?

2. Which Cachaça do you prefer?

3. Did you ever come up with a five star Manhattan?

Thanks.

[windjamer]

Made the mistake of ordering a shot of Crown on the rocks at Glenview CC. Sticker shock...$15..whole bottle cost $23...should have asked first.
Dinner was great so OH WELL

[frayedends]

Funny how folks come from Big Cities and look for high-end everything. Food (restaurants) shopping, now alcoholic beverages. I bet most were like us when they came looking and those things weren't on "the list" of must haves. IF cost isn't a factor then maybe drive to one of Florida's big cities.

I’ll let all the folks here in Westminster, MA (population 8000) that we are a big city. I’ll also let the great bartenders I had at Harvest and Bluefin that they are doing too great of a job and they should leave the Villages if they want to make good drinks like that.

Good grief there’s always someone chiming in on threads to tell you how everything sucks in the Villages. I know I can get what I’m looking for in the Villages and simply posted a fun thread for more recommendations. Oh and I forgot that Chop House also meets my criteria.

[golfing eagles]

This highlights what I have been trying to point out to people at the pool. There is no real luxury in the villages. There is no real service in the villages. Heck there ain't even a towel service at the pool. Even the Marriott has that.

You're looking for quality. And you're not going to find it here.

Depends where you look. But as far as a "towel service goes", imagine running such a service for 120 pools. I would estimate the theft of about 1000 towels/day, maybe more. Then add the laundry cost, the cost of storage for what? maybe 30,000+ towels, the replacement costs, and the lawsuits from anyone who gets a minor rash and blames the towel detergent. Rotsa ruck

[Shipping up to Boston]

Funny how folks come from Big Cities and look for high-end everything. Food (restaurants) shopping, now alcoholic beverages. I bet most were like us when they came looking and those things weren't on "the list" of must haves. IF cost isn't a factor then maybe drive to one of Florida's big cities.

I don’t think it’s ‘high end’ to expect something more than Moose Lodge offerings in a development that crosses all socio economic demos. You may like PBR and Highballs....others come from different generations and want more expanded options. The developer will figure it out as will prospective commercial tenants. There’s a lot of money on the table here and residents/guests shouldn’t have to drive to ‘big cities’ to enjoy drinking/dining options that are limited to a what is served at a chicken bog festival!

[Stu from NYC]

This highlights what I have been trying to point out to people at the pool. There is no real luxury in the villages. There is no real service in the villages. Heck there ain't even a towel service at the pool. Even the Marriott has that.

You're looking for quality. And you're not going to find it here.

If you are at a high end resort yes you can expect luxury but did you not have any idea what this place is when moving here?

Your expectations do not meet reality at all.

[asianthree]

This highlights what I have been trying to point out to people at the pool. There is no real luxury in the villages. There is no real service in the villages. Heck there ain't even a towel service at the pool. Even the Marriott has that.

You're looking for quality. And you're not going to find it here.

I just have to ask where did you live prior to the villages that someone came out, gave you pool towels and service?
Did you live in a high-end luxury apartment building where there was staff or in-home staff?

How exactly does a residential retirement community provide service like a Marriott hotel.
Unless you are a renter, and your contract in paragraph 11a states

staff would be available to bring you a towel :1rotfl:

Confusing a hotel with a private home is just comical or total confusion.

Crap maybe this is supposed to be a Sheldon post

[Shipping up to Boston]

Depends where you look. But as far as a "towel service goes", imagine running such a service for 120 pools. I would estimate the theft of about 1000 towels/day, maybe more. Then add the laundry cost, the cost of storage for what? maybe 30,000+ towels, the replacement costs, and the lawsuits from anyone who gets a minor rash and blames the towel detergent. Rotsa ruck

People steal towels?!

[golfing eagles]

People steal towels?!

Judging by TOTV, people steal EVERYTHING!

[Alarmed]

Not in TV. Go to Mark's Prime on the square in Ocala.

[Shipping up to Boston]

:1rotfl:Judging by TOTV, people steal EVERYTHING!

[Runway48]

That is a great idea. When I’m full time I will do that.
This can be a lot of fun. We used to belong to an international diners' club. A monthly meeting, everyone brought a contribution from the designated theme country including drinks of that country (usually wines). We met at rotating host home locations. It was usually entertaining and a good way to meet people with diverse back grounds but a common interest in trying other cuisines with the understanding that some dishes may turn out to be disasters (sometimes part of the fun). A number of long-term friendships spun off of it.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Not in TV. Go to Mark's Prime on the square in Ocala.

Great spot!

[Shipping up to Boston]

This can be a lot of fun. We used to belong to an international diners' club. A monthly meeting, everyone brought a contribution from the designated theme country including drinks of that country (usually wines). We met at rotating host home locations. It was usually entertaining and a good way to meet people with diverse back grounds but a common interest in trying other cuisines with the understanding that some dishes may turn out to be disasters (sometimes part of the fun). A number of long-term friendships spun off of it.

Uh oh. Down here that could be one of those....’you don’t have to go home but you can’t stay here!’ type situations! ;)

[Jazzcat]

I’ll let all the folks here in Westminster, MA (population 8000) that we are a big city. I’ll also let the great bartenders I had at Harvest and Bluefin that they are doing too great of a job and they should leave the Villages if they want to make good drinks like that.

Good grief there’s always someone chiming in on threads to tell you how everything sucks in the Villages. I know I can get what I’m looking for in the Villages and simply posted a fun thread for more recommendations. Oh and I forgot that Chop House also meets my criteria.

You’re in Westminster? Then you must frequent The Old Mill restaurant. That used to be the “high end” dining place when I grew up in that area!

[Stu from NYC]

People steal towels?!

On some cruise ships you must sign for towels

[Shipping up to Boston]

On some cruise ships you must sign for towels

What about the bathrobes?! ;)

The poster tried to liken the rec areas/pools .....and amenities to a Marriott. If that was the standard, like GE stated, many towels would go ‘missing’! TV knows it’s (not all) clientele!

[frayedends]

You’re in Westminster? Then you must frequent The Old Mill restaurant. That used to be the “high end” dining place when I grew up in that area!

I don’t care for the old mill. It’s musty and old for sure. Food is okay and drinks are mediocre. I just get vodka soda there or a beer. I know folks like the nostalgia but it needs some updating.

Blue Print in town is okay and the Barn in Princeton is good for food and cocktails.

But I drive to Leominster for much better choices.

[Stu from NYC]

What about the bathrobes?! ;)

The poster tried to liken the rec areas/pools .....and amenities to a Marriott. If that was the standard, like GE stated, many towels would go ‘missing’! TV knows it’s (not all) clientele!

He could start a business renting towels, lets see how long before shrinkage puts him under

[frayedends]

This can be a lot of fun. We used to belong to an international diners' club. A monthly meeting, everyone brought a contribution from the designated theme country including drinks of that country (usually wines). We met at rotating host home locations. It was usually entertaining and a good way to meet people with diverse back grounds but a common interest in trying other cuisines with the understanding that some dishes may turn out to be disasters (sometimes part of the fun). A number of long-term friendships spun off of it.

We recently started a dinner club up here with friends. Only started it a few months ago. Getting dates everyone is available has been a struggle. But same thing, themed dinners and drinks. We’ve done French and Italian so far.

[frayedends]

Do we need a thread for towels in the village pools?

[Shipping up to Boston]

Do we need a thread for towels in the village pools?

Yes please :1rotfl:

[HORNET]

Maybe The Villages area isn’t for ###!

[HORNET]

Maybe someone is watching to many Tom Cruise movies!

[Runway48]

We recently started a dinner club up here with friends. Only started it a few months ago. Getting dates everyone is available has been a struggle. But same thing, themed dinners and drinks. We’ve done French and Italian so far.
Yes, scheduling for this sort of activity can be challenging. We did it back before I was retired, and everybody had busy lives. Having a core of committed participants helps. We also started with the familiar and favorites and eventually tried some of the unfamiliar. I recall one African or Moroccan themed diner where somebody made couscous that had the consistency of bathroom calking compound. There wasn't enough alcohol on the table to get that down. I think the next dinner after that was a return to Italy. Good luck, have fun.

[Alissuth]

I’m new to the Villages and very interested in the answer to this question. Is there no place to get high quality hand crafted cocktails?

[frayedends]

I’m new to the Villages and very interested in the answer to this question. Is there no place to get high quality hand crafted cocktails?

The places I mentioned are pretty good. I’m sure there are more. Start at Harvest and Chop House. Those were the best so far for me. Bluefin was hit or miss. I think we did Prima and the menu cocktails were fine. But the gimlet wasn’t great iirc.

[HORNET]

In Pa. I had a complete bar in my house on my game room. Kind of miss it!

[frayedends]

In Pa. I had a complete bar in my house on my game room. Kind of miss it!

There's a pic of my bar on page 1. I will miss it when I move to TV full time. But I have it now. Only problem is whenever I go downstairs I feel like it's party time and maybe I drink too much. :D

We like to do theme parties, so once I get a bar in TV (probably just an outside bar when we build a pool), we will have some in Florida.

A pic from our Prohibition Speakeasy party. We aren't in this pic...

https://i.imgur.com/JyhI2qpl.jpg

[Nevinator]

LOL I know. During Covid I built a bar in my basement. I had nothing to do but learn about classic cocktails and newer cocktails. I learned too much.

This is in Massachusetts. I certainly won't have it in the Florida house.


Finally, a topic that almost everyone can comment on with some level of authority - Alcohol. How appropriate for The Villages!

I’ve built a bar in each of the last three homes I’ve owned. They’ve always become a great neighborhood gathering place and many stories were told, both real and imagined. Many great friendships developed, sports watched, and world problems solved (LOL).

I’d like to do the same in my new home here, but am lacking the kind of space needed. Considering doing something on the lanai, but it limits alcohol storage.

Bar Photos - Album on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/ZUUTAzd)

https://imgur.com/a/ZUUTAzd

[ROCKETMAN]

No bar in the villages knows how to make an old fashioned like they do in Wisconsin. From the crushed sugar cubes to a dash of cherry juice and bitters, don’t try to order one here and get anywhere close.

[tippyclubb]

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[Kerlampert]

We lived in Hawaii for 20 years, and have been searching for a decent Mai Tai in the Caribbean area since we moved here.

If anyone knows of a place please let us know.

[Shipping up to Boston]

We lived in Hawaii for 20 years, and have been searching for a decent Mai Tai in the Caribbean area since we moved here.

If anyone knows of a place please let us know.

Kowloon Route 1 Saugus MA ;)

[Regorp]

Be careful with your wording. Some folks are ashamed to be called bartenders, so they prefer the term "mixologist".

Jon Taffer only works with "mixologists" as seen on Bar Rescue. Simply the best.

[Michread]

Chop House at Lake Sumter Landing for well made drinks

[Kelevision]

The places I mentioned are pretty good. I’m sure there are more. Start at Harvest and Chop House. Those were the best so far for me. Bluefin was hit or miss. I think we did Prima and the menu cocktails were fine. But the gimlet wasn’t great iirc.

I’m completely shocked to hear about Prima. They’re owned by the same people who own Anglers Club and Legacy. I’ve only had the menu cocktails. How hard is it to squeeze some lime wedges and simple syrup with gin….. you’ve piqued my curiosity now and I must go there and order a gimlet. On a side note, if you’re ever downtown Orlando, Mathers is a must!

[frayedends]

I’m completely shocked to hear about Prima. They’re owned by the same people who own Anglers Club and Legacy. I’ve only had the menu cocktails. How hard is it to squeeze some lime wedges and simple syrup with gin….. you’ve piqued my curiosity now and I must go there and order a gimlet. On a side note, if you’re ever downtown Orlando, Mathers is a must!

I could be mistaken on Prima. Hard to remember. I think it was Prima or Bluefin where it depended on the bartender.

[JMintzer]

No bar in the villages knows how to make an old fashioned like they do in Wisconsin. From the crushed sugar cubes to a dash of cherry juice and bitters, don’t try to order one here and get anywhere close.

Yes, when I think of Wisconsin, I think of the perfect "Old Fashioned"...

Does it come with a wedge of cheese? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[frayedends]

Yes, when I think of Wisconsin, I think of the perfect "Old Fashioned"...

Does it come with a wedge of cheese? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I actually prefer my old fashioned with simple syrup (or demerara syrup if available) and stirred without muddling an orange or a cherry. But I'm usually okay with however the bar makes it.

When we were at the outdoor bar at Harvest, lunch time, we had this bartendar who actually sounded a bit arrogant. But he asked me if I wanted my old fashioned muddled. I mentioned that no one had ever asked me that. He said, then how do they know how you like it. He made it exactly as I wanted. He made my wife a "southside" which is basically a gimlet with mint, exactly as she specified. Great drinks.

[dewilson58]

I actually prefer my old fashioned with simple syrup (or demerara syrup if available) and stirred without muddling an orange or a cherry. But I'm usually okay with however the bar makes it.


What about the "smoke" they do there??.......my Bride likes it for the presentation. :icon_bored:

[frayedends]

What about the "smoke" they do there??.......my Bride likes it for the presentation. :icon_bored:

I've had the smoked old fashioned at Chop House and I like it. I have a kit to do it at home too. I've only done it a handfull of times but I like the smoke. The presentation is definitely cool and I actually like the bit of smokiness you get, at least on the first few sips.

[dewilson58]

I've had the smoked old fashioned at Chop House and I like it. I have a kit to do it at home too. I've only done it a handfull of times but I like the smoke. The presentation is definitely cool and I actually like the bit of smokiness you get, at least on the first few sips.

So after 70 posts and snarkiness (if that's a word)...............did you find any opinions on the best place??

:shrug:

[frayedends]

So after 70 posts and snarkiness (if that's a word)...............did you find any opinions on the best place??

:shrug:

You know it's funny because, after all the posts, apparently I've already found the only places that make good cocktails. I was hoping for some other places to try. I haven't eaten at the country clubs yet. Maybe some of those will be okay.

Oh and we had okay luck at Wolfgang Pucks.

ETA: Second time someone used the word "snarkiness" today. One was in a private message that my notification said was a "visitor message". Can't find it now.

[Shipping up to Boston]

So after 70 posts and snarkiness (if that's a word)...............did you find any opinions on the best place??

:shrug:

70 posts and someone brought up 'snarkiness'. Can 'curmudgeon' be far behind! ;)

[Shipping up to Boston]

You know it's funny because, after all the posts, apparently I've already found the only places that make good cocktails. I was hoping for some other places to try. I haven't eaten at the country clubs yet. Maybe some of those will be okay.

Oh and we had okay luck at Wolfgang Pucks.

Like our Dads and Grandfathers always said.....if you want something done right, do it yourself. In that spirit (no pun intended)....bring down the bar from the mancave!

[frayedends]

70 posts and someone brought up 'snarkiness'. Can 'curmudgeon' be far behind! ;)

Okay so that message I thought was private was not? I'm completely confused. Because someone messaged me that they were interested in good cocktails too. I believe my notification said it was a visitor message. They mentioned snarky replies in the thread. I replied something like TOTV has a bunch of curmedgeons and expected snarkiness. Clearly you 2 somehow are in on that message.

I apparently don't know how to use the forum correctly.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Okay so that message I thought was private was not? I'm completely confused. Because someone messaged me that they were interested in good cocktails too. I believe my notification said it was a visitor message. They mentioned snarky replies in the thread. I replied something like TOTV has a bunch of curmedgeons and expected snarkiness. Clearly you 2 somehow are in on that message.

I apparently don't know how to use the forum correctly.

its on the general forum..

[frayedends]

its on the general forum..

Still confused as I can't find it except when I click my profile. Anyhow, I do want a bar at my house (outside as I said).

But going to sit at a bar is something we like for the social aspect. Even with all the snarky curmudgeons.

[dewilson58]

You know it's funny because, after all the posts, apparently I've already found the only places that make good cocktails. I was hoping for some other places to try. I haven't eaten at the country clubs yet. Maybe some of those will be okay.

Oh and we had okay luck at Wolfgang Pucks.

Harvest is about the best we have.
There are places who pour more..........but it's jus-not-done-right.
Country Clubs are volume (more served the better) bartenders...........get it close & move on.

I saw one poster was more or less.......................do it at home.
True, but sometimes............I want 2 B waited on.

Enjoy the journey.

[dewilson58]

70 posts and someone brought up 'snarkiness'. Can 'curmudgeon' be far behind! ;)

Not just: Mr. Helpful.............I can Identify as: Mr. C.

(maybe a future profile update)

[frayedends]

Harvest is about the best we have.
There are places who pour more..........but it's jus-not-done-right.
Country Clubs are volume (more served the better) bartenders...........get it close & move on.

I saw one poster was more or less.......................do it at home.
True, but sometimes............I want 2 B waited on.

Enjoy the journey.


This is about what we have found and I agree, sometimes I want to be waited on also, and meet new people. Thanks for the tip on the country clubs. I'll stick to vodka soda or beer at them.

[frayedends]

Not just: Mr. Helpful.............I can Identify as: Mr. C.

(maybe a future profile update)

LOL I recall being really annoyed the first time you posted on one of my thread. I even stopped coming to the forum for a bit because I saw so many negative posts (not just that one from you).

Anyhow, these days I tend to agree with your posts more than most so I guess sometimes ya gotta get a feel for the place.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Still confused as I can't find it except when I click my profile. Anyhow, I do want a bar at my house (outside as I said).

But going to sit at a bar is something we like for the social aspect. Even with all the snarky curmudgeons.

Agree
I posted it yesterday but my go to is Marks Prime in Ocala. I have simpler tastes than you possibly but it's a good spot all around.

[Glowing Horizon]

Sounds like you should bartend so we can all taste & decide! Please tell us when & where.

[frayedends]

Agree
I posted it yesterday but my go to is Marks Prime in Ocala. I have simpler tastes than you possibly but it's a good spot all around.

I'll give it a try. We had Prime 3 in Leesburg and had a great bartender there and the steaks were pretty good. Pricey though.

[frayedends]

Sounds like you should bartend so we can all taste & decide! Please tell us when & where.

My wife tells me I should do that for my retirement side gig. I'd probably enjoy it, but making drinks for 5 or 6 friends doesn't equal serving a bar full of snarky curmedgeons. I give credit to the bartenders because while I can make a good cocktail, I don't know how good I'd be under pressure and that busy.

[dewilson58]

LOL I recall

My Bride says I could use a filter.

I have an A/C filter, a few oil filters, a few air filters, a water filter (not Nova, but that's a whole noth'r story)................so I'm not sure what she means.

:D

[dewilson58]

Agree
I posted it yesterday but my go to is Marks Prime in Ocala. I have simpler tastes than you possibly but it's a good spot all around.

Love Mark's meat...................no posts, you know what I mean.

I have zero tolerance (on myself) for drinking and driving........so I have water there.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Love Mark's meat...................no posts, you know what I mean.

I have zero tolerance (on myself) for drinking and driving........so I have water there.

Agree. I go with friends, one designated. Not worth it

[dewilson58]

Not worth it

Don't kno about U..............I look bac and think, boy you were stupid.

:22yikes:

& lucky

[frayedends]

Love Mark's meat...................no posts, you know what I mean.

I have zero tolerance (on myself) for drinking and driving........so I have water there.

My wife does not imbibe like I do. So I have my ride home most of the time. I'm lucky that way. As far as commenting on stuff, my wife is my filter. But if she's not around to give me the look, well I usually end up in an argument.

[Glowing Horizon]

I’m completely shocked to hear about Prima. They’re owned by the same people who own Anglers Club and Legacy. I’ve only had the menu cocktails. How hard is it to squeeze some lime wedges and simple syrup with gin….. you’ve piqued my curiosity now and I must go there and order a gimlet. On a side note, if you’re ever downtown Orlando, Mathers is a must!

My daughter is a Rosen College @UCF Alum & they teach mixology. She worked as a concierge during college so we Ubered to many great bars & restaurants whenever I visited her in Orlando. If you ever feel like staying overnight there, International Drive (I-Drive) has many wonderful options. My favorite was Roccos Tacos Tequila Bar & Restaurant with fresh tableside Guacamole & warm chips & many great house drinks with a lake-view table.
Those who’ve mentioned the Boston-area have captured my attention too since my son just moved from Ipswich to Melrose so he can ride the train to/from weekend fun.

[Shipping up to Boston]

My daughter is a Rosen College @UCF Alum & they teach mixology. She worked as a concierge during college so we Ubered to many great bars & restaurants whenever I visited her in Orlando. If you ever feel like staying overnight there, International Drive (I-Drive) has many wonderful options. My favorite was Roccos Tacos Tequila Bar & Restaurant with fresh tableside Guacamole & warm chips & many great house drinks with a lake-view table.
Those who’ve mentioned the Boston-area have captured my attention too since my son just moved from Ipswich to Melrose so he can ride the train to/from weekend fun.

Ipswich/Essex....now you're talking seafood. Woodmans in Essex (next door) is where they filmed Grown Ups (Sandler). Tell him to try Turner's in Melrose...an oyster bar.

[JMintzer]

So after 70 posts and snarkiness (if that's a word)...............did you find any opinions on the best place??

:shrug:

It's not only a word, it's a lifestyle...:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

LOL I recall being really annoyed the first time you posted on one of my thread. I even stopped coming to the forum for a bit because I saw so many negative posts (not just that one from you).

Anyhow, these days I tend to agree with your posts more than most so I guess sometimes ya gotta get a feel for the place.

Always a good idea! :thumbup:

[JMintzer]

Agree
I posted it yesterday but my go to is Marks Prime in Ocala. I have simpler tastes than you possibly but it's a good spot all around.

Only been there once, but that one time was EXCELLENT!

[JMintzer]

My Bride says I could use a filter.

I have an A/C filter, a few oil filters, a few air filters, a water filter (not Nova, but that's a whole noth'r story)................so I'm not sure what she means.

:D

I think she means Duct Tape... :loco:

[Stu from NYC]

Only been there once, but that one time was EXCELLENT!

Marks Prime is the best one we have been to including Chop House. Might be better ones in Orlando though

[Glowing Horizon]

You mean World of Beer doesn’t rock your world? Maybe you need to warm up with a few bottled beverages then you'll suddenly like all of the mixed ones a lot more?

[frayedends]

You mean World of Beer doesn’t rock your world? Maybe you need to warm up with a few bottled beverages then you'll suddenly like all of the mixed ones a lot more?

OMG I went there once on my lifestyle visit in 2021. Granted it was just after Covid crap. But I couldn't even find a good beer. I was shocked that their world included mostly mass produced garbage like Bud and Coors and that sort of crap. I haven't been back. I like a good cold beer and some fried crappy food just as much as anyone. Maybe they've improved?

[Shipping up to Boston]

OMG I went there once on my lifestyle visit in 2021. Granted it was just after Covid crap. But I couldn't even find a good beer. I was shocked that their world included mostly mass produced garbage like Bud and Coors and that sort of crap. I haven't been back. I like a good cold beer and some fried crappy food just as much as anyone. Maybe they've improved?

Still 'crappy'! haha just messing with ya!

I like The Matador in ORL. Some call it a dive...im ok with that!

[frayedends]

Still 'crappy'! haha just messing with ya!

I like The Matador in ORL. Some call it a dive...im ok with that!

I like my dive bars too! Met my wife in a dive bar. We are all over the place. Some night, dark dingy dive bar and Tito's and Soda.

Some nights, local pub with a some local microbrews.

Some nights dressed up a little better and craft cocktails.

[Glowing Horizon]

If you feel like a beach vacay, Caddy’s beach bar on Treasure Island has live music on weekends & sunsets over the gulf. No place better IMO. Love the fried grouper & I don't usually like seafood.

[Glowing Horizon]

Ipswich/Essex....now you're talking seafood. Woodmans in Essex (next door) is where they filmed Grown Ups (Sandler). Tell him to try Turner's in Melrose...an oyster bar.
Thank you. I posted a longer reply but it vapoorized.

[Kelevision]

Harvest is about the best we have.
There are places who pour more..........but it's jus-not-done-right.
Country Clubs are volume (more served the better) bartenders...........get it close & move on.

I saw one poster was more or less.......................do it at home.
True, but sometimes............I want 2 B waited on.

Enjoy the journey.

I agree. Doing it at home and going out socializing are 2 completely different things.

[Kelevision]

We lived in Hawaii for 20 years, and have been searching for a decent Mai Tai in the Caribbean area since we moved here.

If anyone knows of a place please let us know.

In the Caribbean? They should be able to make good ones at any place that has Orgeat. Ask and if they have it, they’ll make a good one. Hopefully…..

[Kelevision]

I like cocktails too. I hope you don't mind me asking...

1. Which Gin do you use for a Negroni (with the Campari and the Carpano Antica) and do you keep it at equal parts each?

2. Which Cachaça do you prefer?

3. Did you ever come up with a five star Manhattan?

Thanks.

I see the OP missed this. I’ll give you my 2 cents.

Plymouth is the gin I use in most cocktails… except a plain martini, in which case I use Tanqueray.

The only Cachaca I could find at total wine is the one I use. But if you ever sail on NCL, they have a Brazilian restaurant and bar where they serve these and they use a different brand.

Don’t’ know about the Manhattan. Sorry.