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Gsfraga
05-17-2024, 10:48 AM
We have guests that will be using our home, we will not be there. How do they go about playing golf.
They will have guest ID's.

Thanks in Advance.

Gary Sfraga

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-17-2024, 12:09 PM
https://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-in-the-villages/golfinginthevillages.pdf

Everything you need to know about golfing in the Villages.

The specific subject of Guests is on page 21.

Two Bills
05-17-2024, 12:18 PM
If you are not going to be there, you can sign over your Resident ID for the duration of their stay, and they could book a round as a normal resident. Costs $50 to transfer ID.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-17-2024, 12:28 PM
If you are not going to be there, you can sign over your Resident ID for the duration of their stay, and they could book a round as a normal resident. Costs $50 to transfer ID.

I -highly- recommend against that. Here's why - true story:

Once upon a time, someone was renting a room in their Villages home. The owner only had one ID for themselves, so they allowed the tenant to use the other ID. The tenant then did a change of address with the postal service to this home. The tenant then used their new address and resident ID as proof of residency, to get a drivers license. The tenant then decided they didn't want to vacate when their agreed-upon rental period expired.

The tenant had proof that they lived there as a permanent resident. The landlord couldn't rent the room to anyone else, and became fearful for their own safety in their own house. It was a mess.

Two Bills
05-17-2024, 12:40 PM
I -highly- recommend against that. Here's why - true story:

Once upon a time, someone was renting a room in their Villages home. The owner only had one ID for themselves, so they allowed the tenant to use the other ID. The tenant then did a change of address with the postal service to this home. The tenant then used their new address and resident ID as proof of residency, to get a drivers license. The tenant then decided they didn't want to vacate when their agreed-upon rental period expired.

The tenant had proof that they lived there as a permanent resident. The landlord couldn't rent the room to anyone else, and became fearful for their own safety in their own house. It was a mess.

We and probably 99.9% of house renters take over homeowners Resident ID as a part of the transaction.
Never had or known of a problem with system.
Your use of it finishes on day rental ends.
The situation you quoted, must have been an odd incident.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-17-2024, 01:14 PM
We and probably 99.9% of house renters take over homeowners Resident ID as a part of the transaction.
Never had or known of a problem with system.
Your use of it finishes on day rental ends.
The situation you quoted, must have been an odd incident.

It was absolutely an odd incident. But it is one (of many) reason I would not want to rent a house that I actually live in, to someone else.

UpNorth
05-17-2024, 01:24 PM
We have guests that will be using our home, we will not be there. How do they go about playing golf.
They will have guest ID's.

Thanks in Advance.

Gary Sfraga

Play off campus. Better conditions and cheaper.

Altavia
05-17-2024, 02:16 PM
We have guests that will be using our home, we will not be there. How do they go about playing golf.
They will have guest ID's.

Thanks in Advance.

Gary Sfraga

Guest ID Information (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/Recreation/idpolicy.aspx)

You will have to reserve tee times for them.

ThirdOfFive
05-17-2024, 02:43 PM
Guest ID Information (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/Recreation/idpolicy.aspx)

You will have to reserve tee times for them.
Beginning about this time of year and continuing throughout the summer, if you want to wait for mid-afternoon and don't mind the heat you can just drive to the starter shack of most any executive course and get on. I would imagine that a guest ID would work as as well as a Resident ID in cases like that.

MrChip72
05-17-2024, 02:59 PM
I -highly- recommend against that. Here's why - true story:

Once upon a time, someone was renting a room in their Villages home. The owner only had one ID for themselves, so they allowed the tenant to use the other ID. The tenant then did a change of address with the postal service to this home. The tenant then used their new address and resident ID as proof of residency, to get a drivers license. The tenant then decided they didn't want to vacate when their agreed-upon rental period expired.

The tenant had proof that they lived there as a permanent resident. The landlord couldn't rent the room to anyone else, and became fearful for their own safety in their own house. It was a mess.

That's an extreme case. I'm a landlord and we always offer to have our resident id's switch over if they're golfers. We don't allow access to our mailbox.

I believe that renting out a full house for $6000/month + $2000 damage deposit + $200 cleaning fee, you get a much different type of renter than someone renting out a single room in a house.

Shipping up to Boston
05-17-2024, 03:12 PM
It was absolutely an odd incident. But it is one (of many) reason I would not want to rent a house that I actually live in, to someone else.

So true
I get it as an investor but my personal home, never.

Altavia
05-17-2024, 05:53 PM
Beginning about this time of year and continuing throughout the summer, if you want to wait for mid-afternoon and don't mind the heat you can just drive to the starter shack of most any executive course and get on. I would imagine that a guest ID would work as as well as a Resident ID in cases like that.

Good advise.


There pitch and putt's are easiest to do a walk on.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-17-2024, 07:30 PM
That's an extreme case. I'm a landlord and we always offer to have our resident id's switch over if they're golfers. We don't allow access to our mailbox.

I believe that renting out a full house for $6000/month + $2000 damage deposit + $200 cleaning fee, you get a much different type of renter than someone renting out a single room in a house.

You get tenants who outstay their welcome and refuse to leave, refuse to pay rent, and who you have to spend MUCH more than $8200 to evict.

If you think it doesn't happen, then you haven't been paying attention for the past few decades. There have been wealthy people who are wealthy - BECAUSE they cheat their landlords and refuse to pay rent. They hop from house to house, or apartment to apartment. There have been a few different video series on the subject, countless articles in countless towns across the country.

Here's one, from 2021 in Massachusetts:
A landlord'''s 2-year, $80,000 effort to evict a non-paying tenant | WBUR News (https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/02/27/tenant-rent-landlord-eviction-massachusetts)

GizmoWhiskers
05-18-2024, 05:59 AM
I -highly- recommend against that. Here's why - true story:

Once upon a time, someone was renting a room in their Villages home. The owner only had one ID for themselves, so they allowed the tenant to use the other ID. The tenant then did a change of address with the postal service to this home. The tenant then used their new address and resident ID as proof of residency, to get a drivers license. The tenant then decided they didn't want to vacate when their agreed-upon rental period expired.

The tenant had proof that they lived there as a permanent resident. The landlord couldn't rent the room to anyone else, and became fearful for their own safety in their own house. It was a mess.
I was gonna say, the OP says they have guest ID. T V does not have "Guest" IDs. Guest passes yes. Indefinite people one is willing to give "blue T V ids" to like Renter ID yes.

But "guest ID"? What would that be? The piece of paper guest pass is the only one I know of and it is for what a month or so unless local relative that fall under the yearly category.

Very good point you make. With proper paperwork you can't claim "squater" in DeSantis' new law on squating. The right ID entitles recidency and then court eviction to get them out.

In OP's case they are "friends". Or are they str like ABnB'ers in reality?

So the issue is how can they play golf if the owner is not with them on a "guest, really, pass then without a green (owner id) or a blue (renter id)... answer like all the str people do.

T V must have a "back door policy" on the owner having to be present rule right... short term renters enjoy living the lifestyle in the massive resort called T V all them time without owners being present. You know the golf capital of the world.

jcreason5616
05-18-2024, 06:36 AM
Our guests make their own reservations on phone system

mkjelenbaas
05-18-2024, 06:49 AM
We have guests that will be using our home, we will not be there. How do they go about playing golf.
They will have guest ID's.

Thanks in Advance.

Gary Sfraga
Make a reservation and go to golf course to golf.

Girlcopper
05-18-2024, 07:13 AM
We and probably 99.9% of house renters take over homeowners Resident ID as a part of the transaction.
Never had or known of a problem with system.
Your use of it finishes on day rental ends.
The situation you quoted, must have been an odd incident.
Agree. Plus…... You need more than a villages ID to get a drivers license. So there’s obviously more to this story

Hplaw
05-18-2024, 07:24 AM
We have guests that will be using our home, we will not be there. How do they go about playing golf.
They will have guest ID's.

Thanks in Advance.

Gary Sfraga

We have rented homes for a number of years. The owner notifies the Villages and we pay $50 for a resident pass (transferred for a specified period by owner). We check in at the Villages Sales Office to get that pass and pay $50.00. At that time, they go over all the information and you set up an ID to schedule golf on line. Everything is explained and easy. We have never had a problem. The Villages Sales office answers everything.

lmack
05-18-2024, 09:59 AM
We and probably 99.9% of house renters take over homeowners Resident ID as a part of the transaction.
Never had or known of a problem with system.
Your use of it finishes on day rental ends.
The situation you quoted, must have been an odd incident.

Agreed. The application has to stipulate a start and stop date and come from the owner with their signature as authorization. It can’t be extended without their authorization. I’ve been doing this for over 10 years without incident.

MDOYLE
05-18-2024, 10:06 AM
How can I get a copy of this booklet?

barbnick
05-18-2024, 10:42 AM
Beginning about this time of year and continuing throughout the summer, if you want to wait for mid-afternoon and don't mind the heat you can just drive to the starter shack of most any executive course and get on. I would imagine that a guest ID would work as as well as a Resident ID in cases like that.
The guests can play as long as they have the id# of the resident they are visiting.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-18-2024, 01:01 PM
https://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-in-the-villages/golfinginthevillages.pdf

Everything you need to know about golfing in the Villages.

The specific subject of Guests is on page 21.

How can I get a copy of this booklet?

The second post of the thread.

Altavia
05-18-2024, 01:19 PM
How can I get a copy of this booklet?

Good Golf School (https://www.golfthevillages.com/goodgolfschool/)

mkjelenbaas
05-19-2024, 08:17 AM
We have guests that will be using our home, we will not be there. How do they go about playing golf.
They will have guest ID's.

Thanks in Advance.

Gary Sfraga
Make a t time - go to the golf course - golf.

HORNET
05-19-2024, 12:31 PM
The days ( future ) that a Villager doesn’t need to be present with non-Villagers to golf will add ( rapidly) to the decline of conditions already being taxed.

Accidental1
05-19-2024, 05:25 PM
Wow... The question the OP wrote was about "Guest golfing" for guests with guest ID's and it spiralled into a thread about renting, transferring ID's, squatting, Air Bnb's etc. etc. etc. Just amazing. Wish I knew the answer, but I don't. Sorry OP

Shipping up to Boston
05-19-2024, 05:36 PM
Wow... The question the OP wrote was about "Guest golfing" for guests with guest ID's and it spiralled into a thread about renting, transferring ID's, squatting, Air Bnb's etc. etc. etc. Just amazing. Wish I knew the answer, but I don't. Sorry OP

So we can add your 'nothing of value' to the end of your list! Just a normal day on a TOTV thread topic.

John Mayes
05-20-2024, 04:20 AM
I was gonna say, the OP says they have guest ID. T V does not have "Guest" IDs. Guest passes yes. Indefinite people one is willing to give "blue T V ids" to like Renter ID yes.

But "guest ID"? What would that be? The piece of paper guest pass is the only one I know of and it is for what a month or so unless local relative that fall under the yearly category.

Very good point you make. With proper paperwork you can't claim "squater" in DeSantis' new law on squating. The right ID entitles recidency and then court eviction to get them out.

In OP's case they are "friends". Or are they str like ABnB'ers in reality?

So the issue is how can they play golf if the owner is not with them on a "guest, really, pass then without a green (owner id) or a blue (renter id)... answer like all the str people do.

T V must have a "back door policy" on the owner having to be present rule right... short term renters enjoy living the lifestyle in the massive resort called T V all them time without owners being present. You know the golf capital of the world.

If you refer to the districtgov website, they are called Guest ID’s not passes.