View Full Version : Who's who in Coleman FCI
ElDiabloJoe
06-10-2024, 08:25 AM
I know the wikipedia page has the names of various notable inmates who may or may not be currently still at Coleman, but the news today said Coleman inmate Leonard Peltier (Darling of the left guilty of murdering two law enforcement agents and noted Native American activist) is up for a parole hearing at FCI Coleman soon. Anyone else there?
Imprisoned Native American activist Leonard Peltier faces 'last chance' parole hearing after murdering two FBI agents in 1975 | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13511411/leaonard-peltier-parole-hearing-native-american-fbi-murder.html)
Bogie Shooter
06-10-2024, 09:44 AM
Why should I care?
dewilson58
06-10-2024, 10:45 AM
What about "Who's who in ToTV Jail"???
Lots of X-cons.
:BigApplause:
manaboutown
06-10-2024, 01:45 PM
Justice would have been served had Peltier been executed over 40 years ago. He murdered two FBI agents in 1975. Why should taxpayers have paid to keep him in room and board all these years?
Shipping up to Boston
06-10-2024, 01:47 PM
What about "Who's who in ToTV Jail"???
Lots of X-cons.
:BigApplause:
I can only speak for myself....but 'we' refer to it as unsolicited vacation time.
Papa_lecki
06-10-2024, 01:47 PM
Why should I care?
Over the last two years, there have been 2 escapes from prisons near me in PA. The area around the prisons were locked down for 7 days (no coming or going).
Two people were car jacked, and there was evidence of one prisoner in many people’s back yards.
Shipping up to Boston
06-10-2024, 02:00 PM
Over the last two years, there have been 2 escapes from prisons near me in PA. The area around the prisons were locked down for 7 days (no coming or going).
Two people were car jacked, and there was evidence of one prisoner in many people’s back yards.
And?
Ive posted this several times on various threads. Coleman has been here since 2001....have you or anyone else experienced any issues related to their population? Not talking about lights, speakers or what one may have seen on Shawshank Redemption. You can be sure BOP has policies/procedures in place in the event of any security breach. Im pretty sure the developer did his due diligence on our long time abutters (sure BOP was in some of those meetings)....i dont think he would've expanded in that general area if he thought it would be an issue.
Snakster66
06-10-2024, 02:01 PM
Over the last two years, there have been 2 escapes from prisons near me in PA. The area around the prisons were locked down for 7 days (no coming or going).
Two people were car jacked, and there was evidence of one prisoner in many people’s back yards.
Basically in my back yard. Made going to the golf course a bit tricky on those weekends.
Bogie Shooter
06-10-2024, 02:03 PM
Because it's prudent due diligence to know the caliber of people (and content of their character) of those nearby - especially in case of escape. One is always better off knowing how much danger one may be in, or not, than being ignorant of the potential danger.
But if you don't care, feel free to continue playing ostrich. Such are helpful meat shields to those of us with situational awareness. I thank you for your service.
Probably more dangerous (to us) people (not in prison)within a 25 mile radius?
By the way do you have a list of each person being held at the prison, that you have calibrated their character?
Do you have a plan (like a hurricane plan) in the event of an escape?
Asking for a fellow ostrich……..
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-10-2024, 06:41 PM
I'm more interested in knowing how many unjailed, uncaught criminals are in or near The Villages. They let most of them out on a low bail around here, so they're running around loose - and some just keep on committing crimes while they're out on bail.
Also since I'm not an FBI agent, I'm not too concerned for my own safety, if Peltier ends up going free. In addition, the key witness gave testimony against Peltier, and then the FBI found that she was incompetent to give testimony. There was a lot of testimony and evidence that was later found to not be true. Such as some mechanics about the guns, showing that the gun Peltier had, was not the gun that killed the agents. And the FBI originally said they were looking for an open-bed red pickup truck, but Peltier was driving a fully enclosed orange SUV on a pickup chassis with a white top. And THEN the FBI changed their minds and said they were looking for an orange van with a white top.
So while he was absolutely convicted, there's no doubt about that, there IS a question about his actual guilt.
The guy is also almost 80 years old now - after having been beaten by inmates in a different prison (he's been transferred a couple of times over the years), he's probably not in the kind of shape he'd need to be in, in order to go after more people for the injustices he feels he's endured.
MrChip72
06-10-2024, 06:52 PM
I would love to see a nice looking Village of Coleman sign added to the entrance.
manaboutown
06-10-2024, 07:11 PM
Close friends of mine for more than 40 years resided on the south side of Santa Fe. The prison was not far from their home. Every once in a while they received notice of escapees and not to open their door to anyone. This occurred while I was living in Northern NM and spending a lot of time socializing with them at their home.
"The New Mexico State Penitentiary riot, which took place on February 2 and 3, 1980, at the Penitentiary of New Mexico (PNM) south of Santa Fe, was the most violent prison riot in U.S. history. Inmates took complete control of the prison and twelve officers were taken hostage. Several inmates were killed by other prisoners, with some being tortured and mutilated because they had previously acted as informants for prison authorities. Police regained control of PNM 36 hours after the riots had begun. By then, thirty-three inmates had died and more than two hundred were treated for injuries.[1] None of the twelve officers taken hostage were killed, but seven suffered serious injuries caused by beatings and rapes."
New Mexico State Penitentiary riot - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_State_Penitentiary_riot)
I was living in Pittsford, New York when this happened.
"The Attica Prison Riot, also known as the Attica Prison Rebellion, the Attica Uprising, or the Attica Prison Massacre, took place at the state prison in Attica, New York; it started on September 9, 1971, and ended on September 13 with the highest number of fatalities in the history of United States prison uprisings. Of the 43 men who died (33 inmates and 10 correctional officers and employees), all but one guard and three inmates were killed by law enforcement gunfire when the state retook control of the prison on the final day of the uprising."
Attica Prison riot - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attica_Prison_riot)
BrianL99
06-10-2024, 07:31 PM
How far away is the prison, from the nearest point in TV?
...just curious.
Shipping up to Boston
06-10-2024, 07:36 PM
How far away is the prison, from the nearest point in TV?
...just curious.
I dont know the actual. Ive been down there once and there is a pretty significant wooded buffer. No access from TV property. You can use a Google earth view or published aerial images and see how minimal impact is to TV
Papa_lecki
06-10-2024, 07:42 PM
How far away is the prison, from the nearest point in TV?
...just curious.
If you watched Goldwingnut’s most recent video, he comments on a SECO substation he flies around and the MMP there. The end of the Coleman property is about 100 yards (via google earth) to the MMP.
320 feet to be exact.
To an actual house, about 600 feet.
Taltarzac725
06-10-2024, 08:01 PM
I am more worried about drunken drivers and some idiot with a gun taking the law into his or her own hands.
An event that would open Coleman prison for escapes would probably affect much of the Villages and we would have a lot more to worry about.
kcrazorbackfan
06-10-2024, 08:29 PM
Bad hombres.
elevatorman
06-11-2024, 05:11 AM
I wonder if any of the prisoners can eat 50 eggs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3oMPqUTxCE
spinner1001
06-11-2024, 05:15 AM
How far away is the prison, from the nearest point in TV?
...just curious.
Literally adjacent property lines on the north side of the prison property — Village of McClure. FCC has a lot of trees on their north side — and razor wire and a wall.
ithos
06-11-2024, 05:51 AM
There is a Camp for men. They are not confined 24 hours a day and perform duties across the site. Obviously any one of them could escape very easily but hardly any will since they would be given more time in a medium or high correction facility.
On the positive side, can you imagine the traffic congestion if the property of Coleman was instead developed by the The Villages?
How Are Minimum-Security Prisons Different from Other Prisons?
Minimum-security federal prisons are different than higher-security prisons in many ways. Perhaps most significantly, there are often no barriers between the camp and the outside world.
With no fences, walls, or razor wire, minimum-security federal prisoners can simply walk away if they choose. Very few campers ever walk away. This is due to the near-certainty of recapture and the wealth of negative consequences of escaping from federal prison.
What Is a Minimum Security Prison? - Federal Prison Camps (https://federalcriminaldefenseattorney.com/prison-life/prison-security-levels/minimum-security-prisons/#h-what-is-minimum-security-prison-like)
Angelhug52
06-11-2024, 05:53 AM
I would be more concerned with who isn't behind the bars. The inmates offer minimal threat to outsiders. Now their visitors may be another story? As they drive through the non secured gates of The Villages and see all the fine homes on their way to and from visiting day can lead to unsavory thoughts and actions. Being alert to surroundings and circumstances is being aware.
Papa_lecki
06-11-2024, 06:11 AM
How far away is the prison, from the nearest point in TV?
...just curious.
I just mapped the distance to the middle of Middleton and the HS Football field - about 6000 feet to both of them.
7500 feet to the Saluki Rec Center (that was marked on Google Earth)
About 8,600 feet to Eastport
Dlbonivich
06-11-2024, 06:16 AM
Pretty sure I heard that a mob member escaped not to long ago. I know Whitey Bulger was there for a long time. He was transferred to a prison in WV and killed there.
Dlbonivich
06-11-2024, 06:19 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna22592
Thought I remembered
Boomer
06-11-2024, 06:48 AM
A little segue this morning……..
I have been wondering if Bill Erpenbeck was in Coleman.
Cincinnati news is reporting that Erpenbeck was just released from a Florida prison after serving 21 of his 30-year sentence.
Those of us from the Tri-State area area might well remember Erpenbeck. He was the (Northern Kentucky) developer found guilty of fraud — to the tune of 34-million.
Erpenbeck built housing developments, nice ones. He was living high on the hog while defrauding his subcontractors and banks. (He was in cahoots with a bank president.)
People lost their homes because of him. Some of those people had paid cash.
The Erpenbeck story was all over the local news as it was originally unfolding in the early 2000’s……..
The moral of the story: Cash buyers who remember Erpenbeck are probably willing to spring for the cost of owner’s title insurance…..
When you buy a house for cash, you are the bank. . .So?
Act like a bank.
Situations can vary, of course, but when I hear someone bragging about buying a house for cash and saying they don’t need no stinkin’ (owner’s) title insurance, I always want to tell the tale of Erpenbeck. ( I wonder what he will do now that he is out of prison. He is 63.)
Boomer
Bogie Shooter
06-11-2024, 07:20 AM
Pretty sure I heard that a mob member escaped not to long ago. I know Whitey Bulger was there for a long time. He was transferred to a prison in WV and killed there.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna22592
Thought I remembered
So, it wasn’t an escape from the Coleman facility………….
Dlbonivich
06-11-2024, 07:29 AM
The halfway house is right near the prison. He killed 3 people
Travilinggal
06-11-2024, 07:32 AM
Living in fear, that must be unpleasant.
Shipping up to Boston
06-11-2024, 07:39 AM
Living in fear, that must be unpleasant.
No fear... No ToTV
Let 'em rant!
kendi
06-11-2024, 08:02 AM
How far away is the prison, from the nearest point in TV?
...just curious.
Probably under a mile with Eastport going in.
kendi
06-11-2024, 08:10 AM
I know the wikipedia page has the names of various notable inmates who may or may not be currently still at Coleman, but the news today said Coleman inmate Leonard Peltier (Darling of the left guilty of murdering two law enforcement agents and noted Native American activist) is up for a parole hearing at FCI Coleman soon. Anyone else there?
Imprisoned Native American activist Leonard Peltier faces 'last chance' parole hearing after murdering two FBI agents in 1975 | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13511411/leaonard-peltier-parole-hearing-native-american-fbi-murder.html)
“At Federal Correctional Complexes (FCCs), institutions with different missions and security levels are located in close proximity to one another. FCCs increase efficiency through the sharing of services, enable staff to gain experience at institutions of many security levels, and ENHANCE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS BY HAVING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY .”
not sure if this will help ease your mind.
kendi
06-11-2024, 08:40 AM
That's way WAY off the deep end. there is no ostrich with these other people. The fact is that just because there are inmates (allegedly famous ones doesn't even matter so I have no clue why you frame it that way). The facts are simple - we live near a prison labels 'medium' security. Things can happen, however much like any other prison, the inmate needs to get as far away as possible 'in record time'.
We have lived near 2 and this the third. It's no big deal. IMHO you're way over the top on this one. just forget it's there and move on.
Coleman is a federal correctional which has 4 levels of security ranging from low to a high level 2
Steve
06-11-2024, 08:45 AM
I would love to see a nice looking Village of Coleman sign added to the entrance.
I still believe someday The Villages will take over the CFP and convert it into a Rec Center!
ElDiabloJoe
06-11-2024, 09:06 AM
I would love to see a nice looking Village of Coleman sign added to the entrance.
I'm sorry but that is probably the funniest thing I've read today. I would absolutely love to see that!
TVTVTV
06-11-2024, 09:06 AM
And scumbag pedophile Larry Nassar (abuser of the Olympic and other gymnastic girls) has been at Coleman for almost a year, serving up to 175 years. I suspect he'll die in prison one way or another. Another prisoner just stabbed him in April, but he survived.
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Shipping up to Boston
06-11-2024, 09:07 AM
I still believe someday The Villages will take over the CFP and convert it into a Rec Center!
That will probably never happen....but as part of a treaty between BOP and ToTV, the former has agreed to house some of the latter’ worst repeat offenders. The area, known as C block, short for Curmudgeon is believed to have housed prolific posters such as GE, JM, SUTB a couple of guys from MN and WI as well. *
*insert Sheldon here
LeRoySmith
06-11-2024, 09:34 AM
Maybe the developer should purchase the prison and give it a TV style facelift. Then they could house drunk golf cart drivers, covenants violators and TOTV rulz violators there when caught. Of course TOTV would need to go in partnership with them or maybe just rent space since this is such a well behaved group.
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-11-2024, 09:48 AM
No fear... No ToTV
Let 'em rant!
Just think - when the next "big bad" comes looking for its next target, they just have to read here to find it.
Diverdave
06-11-2024, 09:51 AM
I know the wikipedia page has the names of various notable inmates who may or may not be currently still at Coleman, but the news today said Coleman inmate Leonard Peltier (Darling of the left guilty of murdering two law enforcement agents and noted Native American activist) is up for a parole hearing at FCI Coleman soon. Anyone else there?
Imprisoned Native American activist Leonard Peltier faces 'last chance' parole hearing after murdering two FBI agents in 1975 | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13511411/leaonard-peltier-parole-hearing-native-american-fbi-murder.html)
Lets be clear, this piece of garbage did not just murder two Law Enforcement agents, he stopped and calmly executed the agents by shooting them each, at point blank range, in the head as they lay helpless.
This is NOT a human being, this is a dangerous animal.
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-11-2024, 09:53 AM
Lets be clear, this piece of garbage did not just murder two Law Enforcement agents, he stopped and calmly executed the agents by shooting them each, at point blank range, in the head as they lay helpless.
This is NOT a human being, this is a dangerous animal.
According to the charges, he was only dangerous to those two FBI agents. They were specifically targeted during a specific incident that had nothing to do with the Villages. If he's let go, and shows up in the town square, maybe just - try not to bring up political activism against Native Americans. As long as you remember that, you should be fine.
Carla B
06-11-2024, 11:21 AM
Coleman is a federal correctional which has 4 levels of security ranging from low to a high level 2
Several years ago I was invited to accompany a friends on a tour of Coleman arranged by one of the car clubs here. Her husband was disinterested. I wanted to go but I knew my husband would really like the chance, so I offered it to him. They toured a low level security unit, encountered some of the inmates, and were treated to lunch prepared by them.
Kenswing
06-11-2024, 11:28 AM
I would be much more concerned about the people who aren’t in prison that should be. I am not at all concerned about who is locked up in Coleman.
Taltarzac725
06-11-2024, 11:44 AM
Recall that Whitey Bulger was there for a while. Probably in the area with the most security. He was killed in a much less secure prison in West Virginia.
On another note I recall looking for my old boss from my Reno days and his name kept coming up over-and-over again as a person being sued. It turned out various inmates were suing him as he had become the warden of a prison.
He had been interested in crime and punishment when I had worked under his supervision at various locations around the Reno-Tahoe area. Food service concern.
Two Bills
06-11-2024, 12:06 PM
I would be more concerned with who isn't behind the bars. The inmates offer minimal threat to outsiders. Now their visitors may be another story? As they drive through the non secured gates of The Villages and see all the fine homes on their way to and from visiting day can lead to unsavory thoughts and actions. Being alert to surroundings and circumstances is being aware.
We lived, some years ago, about half a mile from a Juvenile Prison.
The actual inmates were never a problem, in fact a couple of the lads helped me dig out some footings on day release, but our village had a goodly number of burglaries and shop theft at weekend visiting time.
Probably early arrival parents and friends, passing the time before admission.
PugMom
06-11-2024, 12:34 PM
And?
Ive posted this several times on various threads. Coleman has been here since 2001....have you or anyone else experienced any issues related to their population? Not talking about lights, speakers or what one may have seen on Shawshank Redemption. You can be sure BOP has policies/procedures in place in the event of any security breach. Im pretty sure the developer did his due diligence on our long time abutters (sure BOP was in some of those meetings)....i dont think he would've expanded in that general area if he thought it would be an issue.
i agree, refuse to live in fear, and am not a NIMBY. this is a funny thread, but for entertainment purposes only
PugMom
06-11-2024, 12:35 PM
That will probably never happen....but as part of a treaty between BOP and ToTV, the former has agreed to house some of the latter’ worst repeat offenders. The area, known as C block, short for Curmudgeon is believed to have housed prolific posters such as GE, JM, SUTB a couple of guys from MN and WI as well. *
*insert Sheldon here
it will be a jail for Villagers!! with golf carts, yet!
manaboutown
06-11-2024, 12:36 PM
According to the charges, he was only dangerous to those two FBI agents. They were specifically targeted during a specific incident that had nothing to do with the Villages. If he's let go, and shows up in the town square, maybe just - try not to bring up political activism against Native Americans. As long as you remember that, you should be fine.
Anyone born in America is a Native American. This convicted murderer is simply a descendant of some of the earliest immigrants from Asia whose descendants survived.
bmcgowan13
06-11-2024, 12:37 PM
Coleman's current residents have all screwed up, done something stupid, got captured and tried in court.
I am much more concerned with the miscreants and felonys-in-waiting freely roaming the county tonight that haven't been caught yet..
The major hitters inside Coleman today are of little immediate concern for me--I am worried about the guys that are out driving around today and are going to Coleman in 2025 or 2026...the farm team...
Shipping up to Boston
06-11-2024, 12:43 PM
Anyone born in America is a Native American. This murderer is simply a descendant of some of the earliest immigrants from Asia whose descendants survived.
Just your first sentence....”anyone born in America is a Native American” Really?!
Did Liz Warren tell you that?*
*The Harvard Law Professor.....not the politician!
Bwanajim
06-11-2024, 12:56 PM
Why is he still alive? He should’ve been fried 30 years ago! This is why we have such a crime problem in this country now. How could he even be considered for parole?🤬
mraines
06-11-2024, 01:23 PM
And?
Ive posted this several times on various threads. Coleman has been here since 2001....have you or anyone else experienced any issues related to their population? Not talking about lights, speakers or what one may have seen on Shawshank Redemption. You can be sure BOP has policies/procedures in place in the event of any security breach. Im pretty sure the developer did his due diligence on our long time abutters (sure BOP was in some of those meetings)....i dont think he would've expanded in that general area if he thought it would be an issue.
I grew up near Rahway State Prison in Jersey (Scared Straight). It was pretty much in the center of the town. I don't recall any escapes or problems.
Shipping up to Boston
06-11-2024, 01:37 PM
I grew up near Rahway State Prison in Jersey (Scared Straight). It was pretty much in the center of the town. I don't recall any escapes or problems.
Is Rahway where Stallone filmed ‘Lock up’?
coffeebean
06-11-2024, 05:05 PM
If you watched Goldwingnut’s most recent video, he comments on a SECO substation he flies around and the MMP there. The end of the Coleman property is about 100 yards (via google earth) to the MMP.
320 feet to be exact.
To an actual house, about 600 feet.
Too close for comfort for me.
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-11-2024, 07:07 PM
Just your first sentence....”anyone born in America is a Native American” Really?!
Did Liz Warren tell you that?*
*The Harvard Law Professor.....not the politician!
Semantics. Anyone born in America is native to America, by definition. That makes them a native American.
However, a Native American is a member of the indigenous tribes within the borders of what we know as the United States of America.
Notice the difference between a native American and a Native American. One is capitalized, because it depicts one word of a two-word proper noun. The other is not, because it's just a descriptive of the single-word noun.
MrChip72
06-11-2024, 08:47 PM
Too close for comfort for me.
I would rather live a few miles from a prison than a few miles from an area where many people belong in prison.
Taltarzac725
06-11-2024, 09:27 PM
Think I met the Tilsen mentioned in the articles about Leonard Peltier. I did know his sister. Tilsen's sister.
I did find some of the Native American inmates we helped in Legal Assistance to Minnesota Prisoners very demanding. Could hardly do much to really help them though. The sister of the Tilsen mentioned was in the same Class at the U of MN Law School (1989) and we were Co- Student Directors for Minnesota Correctional Facility- Stillwater.
midiwiz
06-12-2024, 06:37 AM
Coleman is a federal correctional which has 4 levels of security ranging from low to a high level 2
really knit picky? who the heck cares
Altavia
06-12-2024, 07:41 AM
I would rather live a few miles from a prison than a few miles from an area where many people belong in prison.
Exactly, ever been in a Walmart late at night?
ElDiabloJoe
06-12-2024, 08:13 AM
really knit picky? who the heck cares
It is NOT nit-picky when Kendi is posting that information regarding the various levels of security at FCI-Coleman (in their post, #32) which DIRECTLY refutes your earlier post that it was a medium security facility.
That earlier post of yours, HOWEVER, Kendi quoted in their post (#32) but it has somehow been removed and the post numbers are still continuous. So somehow, midiwiz (Is that some kind of King of digital music?) deleted their post that was captured in Kandi's quote AND had the threads post numbers reset? Hmmmm, how could that have been done?
Tobys Dad
06-12-2024, 08:48 AM
Why should I care?
Why should you comment if you don't care?
Topspinmo
06-12-2024, 08:56 AM
How far away is the prison, from the nearest point in TV?
...just curious.
Google earth you measure done to foot. Across the cow pasture or across the road 480 feet or 4379 feet to north.
Topspinmo
06-12-2024, 09:08 AM
Why is he still alive? He should’ve been fried 30 years ago! This is why we have such a crime problem in this country now. How could he even be considered for parole?
Hey, starving lawyers have to get paid. They make rules so they get paid over and over and over. It’s not about criminal it’s about getting paid. The more they appeal the more they get paid.
Topspinmo
06-12-2024, 09:43 AM
Here’s link short list Coleman’s notables..
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