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alwann
06-19-2024, 11:47 AM
Came home from a trip and found this.
It's a glass panel (not slider) in my enclosed lanai. That's not rain drops. It's a shattered pattern, but glass isn't broken. Any thoughts on the cause?
I couldn't find any evidence that something hit it. Could a close lightning struck have caused it? Manufacturing defect? This panel was replaced under warranty a year or so back due to a broken seal, so I wonder.
villagetinker
06-19-2024, 12:10 PM
I am going to guess a lawn mower hit a stone which then hit your glass panel. The spider web of broken glass suggests (IMHO) a hit on the right side of the panel about halfway up. Tempered glass is designed to shatter just like this. I am guessing id you look very carefully on the outside you will find a small (vary small) ding in the glass and this is what caused the pane to shatter.
Ecuadog
06-19-2024, 12:46 PM
... lawn mower hit a stone which then hit your glass panel. ...
I had a lawn guy that did that to me 3 times, with a weed whacker.
Pondboy
06-19-2024, 01:00 PM
Came home from a trip and found this.
It's a glass panel (not slider) in my enclosed lanai. That's not rain drops. It's a shattered pattern, but glass isn't broken. Any thoughts on the cause?
I couldn't find any evidence that something hit it. Could a close lightning struck have caused it? Manufacturing defect? This panel was replaced under warranty a year or so back due to a broken seal, so I wonder.
This (Nickel Sulfide Inclusion)might explain it, if you find no point of impact. I think I can see the “butterfly” effect that they refer to.
How Does Nickel Sulfide Inclusion Cause Spontaneous Glass Breakage? (https://girouxglass.com/how-does-nickel-sulfide-inclusion-cause-spontaneous-glass-breakage/)
alwann
06-19-2024, 01:34 PM
Came home from a trip and found this.
It's a glass panel (not slider) in my enclosed lanai. That's not rain drops. It's a shattered pattern, but glass isn't broken. Any thoughts on the cause?
I couldn't find any evidence that something hit it. Could a close lightning struck have caused it? Manufacturing defect? This panel was replaced under warranty a year or so back due to a broken seal, so I wonder.
That was my first thought, but no stones anywhere near. The grass hadn't been cut in over a week. We were gone just three days. I understand there was a storm during that period (6/14-17) which is why I thought perhaps lightning was a factor. My neighbors said the wind wasn't particularly strong. I vote for defective product.
alwann
06-19-2024, 01:38 PM
This makes sense: High heat day, then a cooling rain.
alwann
06-19-2024, 01:42 PM
This (Nickel Sulfide Inclusion)might explain it, if you find no point of impact. I think I can see the “butterfly” effect that they refer to.
How Does Nickel Sulfide Inclusion Cause Spontaneous Glass Breakage? (https://girouxglass.com/how-does-nickel-sulfide-inclusion-cause-spontaneous-glass-breakage/)
This makes sense: High heat day, then a cooling rain.
ThirdOfFive
06-20-2024, 11:10 AM
Came home from a trip and found this.
It's a glass panel (not slider) in my enclosed lanai. That's not rain drops. It's a shattered pattern, but glass isn't broken. Any thoughts on the cause?
I couldn't find any evidence that something hit it. Could a close lightning struck have caused it? Manufacturing defect? This panel was replaced under warranty a year or so back due to a broken seal, so I wonder.
Had the same thing happen some time back, up in Minnesota. Woke up one morning to find the glass in one of our sliding patio doors in the exact same shape. It has been quite cold the night before (-30 or so). Guy who fixed it said that it was most likely caused by defective installation coupled with sudden temp. change. Apparently glass needs a little room to move.
retiredguy123
06-20-2024, 11:23 AM
I once had a glass panel break due to a pressure change between the outside and the inside. It sounded like an explosion. I think the atmospheric pressure dropped suddenly on the outside and created a higher pressure on the inside than on the outside.
Retiring
06-20-2024, 12:33 PM
Came home from a trip and found this.
It's a glass panel (not slider) in my enclosed lanai. That's not rain drops. It's a shattered pattern, but glass isn't broken. Any thoughts on the cause?
I couldn't find any evidence that something hit it. Could a close lightning struck have caused it? Manufacturing defect? This panel was replaced under warranty a year or so back due to a broken seal, so I wonder.
In my previous home, one of the glass shower doors literally exploded. Thank God no one was taking a shower. The manufacturer’s rep came out and said, we’ll get you a new one – no charge. When I asked what happened, he said this is tempered glass - sometimes they explode. What???
La lamy
06-21-2024, 04:56 AM
This (Nickel Sulfide Inclusion)might explain it, if you find no point of impact. I think I can see the “butterfly” effect that they refer to.
How Does Nickel Sulfide Inclusion Cause Spontaneous Glass Breakage? (https://girouxglass.com/how-does-nickel-sulfide-inclusion-cause-spontaneous-glass-breakage/)
Interesting. Thanks for sharing this link.
BoatRatKat
06-21-2024, 05:32 AM
Happened to me in my car. Boiling hot day out and I hopped in the car and cranked on the air while driving. Within just a few minutes the back window totally shattered like that. It was loud, thought someone was shooting at me. Extreme temperature change.
JoeKnapp51
06-21-2024, 06:18 AM
I had similar thing happen. I caused it. I was weedwacking nearby patio area. Came inside to get a drink of water. Heard weird noise and pile of glass on floor. That is tempered glass and it breaks in small pieces by design. I presume whoever does your yard work hit a stone and it broke the glass.
msilagy
06-21-2024, 06:20 AM
This can happen with tempered glass for no apparent reason. In my courtyard villa in the "middle" of the night a glass slider panel burst and glass in very small pieces flew every where. Luckily my tenant was asleep and not sitting near this side door. The company that replaced the glass from Orlando said this can happen and does without anything hitting it. Just the way tempered glass is. I wouldn't look for a reason, as there may not be one.
airstreamingypsy
06-21-2024, 08:12 AM
Tempered glass just explodes, any light defect it it will make it happen. My friend was showing when hers do, I could post a photo of the grisly scene but won't. I had a brand new car, went in the garage in the morning and the windshield looked like your door. Google exploding shower doors.
pdp07
06-21-2024, 10:35 AM
We had the same happen to our patio door and at 1st thought a stone from the landscaper or something similar. Eliminated that in a couple of seconds because it was in the screened in Lanai. After a closer look, I discovered it was the inside glass panel of the slider.
Never found out the cause but NICKEL SULFIDE INCLUSION sounds like a strong possibility.
Crookedbreeze
06-21-2024, 01:10 PM
Chances are it was a lawn cutter with the edger. If you got rocks hanging out, you need to put them away
Rocksnap
06-21-2024, 02:35 PM
I’ve had bird strikes break windows. Sometimes the bird dies, other times it survives.
MarcStephen
06-22-2024, 05:34 AM
Is this a custom windows product?
cashell
06-22-2024, 11:14 AM
Came home from a trip and found this.
It's a glass panel (not slider) in my enclosed lanai. That's not rain drops. It's a shattered pattern, but glass isn't broken. Any thoughts on the cause?
I couldn't find any evidence that something hit it. Could a close lightning struck have caused it? Manufacturing defect? This panel was replaced under warranty a year or so back due to a broken seal, so I wonder.
I had that happen a few years ago to my large picture window.
I was sitting near mine when it happened and I thought someone had shot it. It was a very loud bang. Scared me to death. After all alternatives were investigated, it turns out it was stress on the window that caused it.
Hope this helps.
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