Mary Loop Newell

[BPRICE1234]

Does anyone know how loud the turnpike is off Mary Loop? It looks close to the traffic.

[retiredguy123]

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[Pballer]

You can download a free sound meter app for iPhone or Android phones,

[ElDiabloJoe]

Mr/Mrs BPRICE 1234, Your many posts regarding WellPoint, Middleton, FHA loans, etc. are clearly indicative of someone who is shopping seriously and trying to educate one's self prior to purchase. Probably from afar.

May I recommend - nay, strongly encourage, that instead of asking multiple questions repeatedly you simply come to visit? That way you may ask many in person and get much more detail and far better information.

At the very least, instead of asking the questions to the point people are tiring of responding (ad nauseum), perhaps the search function and some time spent in leisurely reading might be of value. I'm all for helping people, but I'm much more of the "helping people help themselves" type of person.

[vintageogauge]

You could also have a quiet home with terrible neighbors with multiple barking dogs. You're not going to find the perfect home by asking repeatedly for information. Come down for a month, look at new and used then pick one out.

[Robbb]

Does anyone know how loud the turnpike is off Mary Loop? It looks close to the traffic.

I looked at those homes last year, you don't want to live there. Wayyyy to much traffic noise.

[thelegges]

I’m not sure if you are trying to buy site unseen, not planning to visit, or visiting But not for awhile. Either way, what some think noise is a non factor really could be different for you.
We live 4 streets and a wall from the turnpike in our neighborhood. The back of our house backs to a prairie. In the front of the house we can hear the humming of tires, occasional sirens, and the opps I just left my lane, ran over warning bumps. Depending on the wind probably 20 plus days a month we don’t know the turnpike exists, inside or at our pool. Our boys both live in high traffic areas, front bedroom isn’t a big deal for them.

That said we also could hear BV traffic at our third house, constantly talking neighbors in kissing lanai in 2nd house, first house, noise while sitting in our lanai every with every car or cart ran over the grate in the road.

So can any of us help with some of your questions, sure, but the answers are for our degree of noise factors, not yours. So you can’t fault them for their opinions.

In your situation I would visit and spend at least a hour sitting in different areas, buy a house that you like, but keeping in mind if needed you could sell easily.

Because as others have posted, sometimes the traffic noise is much easier to take than humans, barking dogs, pool equipment, super loud conversations, TV and music, because people are hard of hearing. Or sometimes you really just don’t like the neighbors, it happens.

[BPRICE1234]

Thank you.

[BPRICE1234]

I’m not sure if you are trying to buy site unseen, not planning to visit, or visiting But not for awhile. Either way, what some think noise is a non factor really could be different for you.
We live 4 streets and a wall from the turnpike in our neighborhood. The back of our house backs to a prairie. In the front of the house we can hear the humming of tires, occasional sirens, and the opps I just left my lane, ran over warning bumps. Depending on the wind probably 20 plus days a month we don’t know the turnpike exists, inside or at our pool. Our boys both live in high traffic areas, front bedroom isn’t a big deal for them.

That said we also could hear BV traffic at our third house, constantly talking neighbors in kissing lanai in 2nd house, first house, noise while sitting in our lanai every with every car or cart ran over the grate in the road.

So can any of us help with some of your questions, sure, but the answers are for our degree of noise factors, not yours. So you can’t fault them for their opinions.

In your situation I would visit and spend at least a hour sitting in different areas, buy a house that you like, but keeping in mind if needed you could sell easily.

Because as others have posted, sometimes the traffic noise is much easier to take than humans, barking dogs, pool equipment, super loud conversations, TV and music, because people are hard of hearing. Or sometimes you really just don’t like the neighbors, it happens.
That's the issue we are having. We have made several trips but coming down each time something new pops us is getting tiresome and expensive.
If you look there's plenty of homes next to the turnpike and as you said, it's subjective.
We are coming down once again and hopefully we will find something soon. Thanks for your reply.

[Bogie Shooter]

That's the issue we are having. We have made several trips but coming down each time something new pops us is getting tiresome and expensive.
If you look there's plenty of homes next to the turnpike and as you said, it's subjective.
We are coming down once again and hopefully we will find something soon. Thanks for your reply.

Bring your checkbook……we did.

[Taltarzac725]

Unless you love the sound of trains at night you may want to pay attention to the tracks near the Villages.

The original co-owner of Talk of the Villages moved near a train track and would often lose sleep over it.

We hear one often at night but the track is about 1.5 miles from here.

[BPRICE1234]

Unless you love the sound of trains at night you may want to pay attention to the tracks near the Villages.

The original co-owner of Talk of the Villages moved near a train track and would often lose sleep over it.

We hear one often at night but the track is about 1.5 miles from here.
I hadn't heard of the train issue. Thanks for the reply, I learned something new.

[Stu from NYC]

You need to decide for yourselves. Go to locations near turnpike, quarry and others and listen numerous times of the day and decide if location is for you.

[thelegges]

That's the issue we are having. We have made several trips but coming down each time something new pops us is getting tiresome and expensive.
If you look there's plenty of homes next to the turnpike and as you said, it's subjective.
We are coming down once again and hopefully we will find something soon. Thanks for your reply.

So here lies the problem, there will be new house, neighborhoods every couple of weeks to months. Are you pre buying, still working, not planning on coming down for awhile? It not a problem many of us start with a vaca/investment home.

In 2010 First house we bought a PV, used it 4 weeks a years, high season parents stayed. Kept it 4 years made a tidy profit.
2012 bought a 3/2 cottage we thought would be our retirement home. Nope turned it into a long term rental with the best tenant who ended up being a friend. Sold house nine years later making a great profit plus rent.
2014 bought preowned 3/2 designer selling house #1. 2018 one retired, but sometimes fitting into established neighborhood can be difficult. We started looking at new areas in 2019. We decided Richmond was where we wanted to build. Sold house #2. Built in Richmond in 2/22, sold house #3.
Is Richmond our last house probably until one of us takes a dirt nap. We have been to the new area and street of dreams houses. Our model is still our first pick. We still maintain our northern home plus TV.

So here is your answer on my opinion. Buy what works for you now, but in an area that will grow like Middle (non family) area or Eastport. I think both will be a go to spot, to a I really love this house/new neighborhood you could make a worthwhile profit in a few years.

Either way keep in mind there could always be a better house, in TV, you just need to start somewhere. It may end up your forever house, or it may become the first stepping stone house.

[Bogie Shooter]

I hadn't heard of the train issue. Thanks for the reply, I learned something new.

There is one street in two villages where a dog barks all the time. I can PM the location if you want to add to your dossier.

Sorry, on my second Yuengling after mowing my yard.😎

[kingofbeer]

Does anyone know how loud the turnpike is off Mary Loop? It looks close to the traffic.
It is going to be real bad there. Stay away!
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Better to be away from the turnpike. Maybe something past Meggison Road would be better for you.

[Normal]

If you wear hearing aids, just don’t wear them when you are in your lanai or outside. Then the noise isn’t as big of an issue. The turnpike is already under expansion to 4 lanes for both sides, so the noise will only get worse? Maybe just wait a little longer if freeway noise is a problem for you?

[thelegges]

If you wear hearing aids, just don’t wear them when you are in your lanai or outside. Then the noise isn’t as big of an issue. The turnpike is already under expansion to 4 lanes for both sides, so the noise will only get worse? Maybe just wait a little longer if freeway noise is a problem for you?

What about the wall that is required when they expand turnpike, we have a much lower wall that definitely changes the problem

[Kelevision]

I live fairly close to the turnpike. I’m not as close as where you’re asking but I can’t imagine you could ever hear anything from inside. If you’re worried about it outside, that’s another issue and you should probably keep looking. I can hear the turnpike if the weather is right and I’m really trying to hear it. But… I don’t know you or what your criteria is other than a fence. MY personal preference would be one of those new Courtyard Villas in Dabney or Dehnam. ( not sure which one they’re in) If I didn’t already own I’d grab one of those but I go to Orlando and Leesburg quite a bit and it’s so much closer than any other village. Bonus that they’re reduced. That’s just me. I just figured if you’re considering Newell, why not Dabney. Also, it’s brand new. I love my courtyard villa and the main reason is the layout. Because I have dogs, I like that the living area is in the back. I love the shower in the main bath. I love the easy to manage yard area. Anyway, good luck and I hope you find a place. Don’t over think it. I bought 3 years ago sight unseen. I had been here twice looking and knew what I wanted. I have zero regrets. I can say, having no other house behind you will be something you’ll be grateful for eventually. I think backing up to 470 would be much better than the turnpike. IMO

[Altavia]

Does anyone know how loud the turnpike is off Mary Loop? It looks close to the traffic.

One possible metric - for me, being at least 3-4 homes away from the Turnpike was more than tolerable. Better if the Lanai is on the opposite side of the house.

Mary Loop is perpendicular to the Turnpike you'll hear it in the front yard. Probably less in the lanai depending how far in.

They are building like crazy in Wellpoint. Many homes are over a mile from the Turnpike.

[frayedends]

I’m not far from Newell. The answer is it depends on the weather colder months it is significantly loud. Now it is loud morning and evening but not that bad. Afternoon humidity seems to deaden it to the point I can’t hear it at all.

[Michael 61]

Old people get cranky about everything. Here is some free advice, if my questions bother you, DONT ANSWER.

Good response BPRICE - I got the same flack from a few “old timers” when I first started posting questions here prior to buying in 2022. I was anxious to learn as much as I could about TV prior to making a major purchase and relocating here. Most people were very friendly, helpful and more importantly “patient” with me as a newbie. I’m so grateful to those kind folks. There were a few unfortunately that seemed annoyed with my rookie questions, and were quick to tell me that some of my questions had been answered in previous posts from years prior, or that I should use ‘google” rather than ask questions here. Like you, I never understood why those few wouldn’t just ignore my posts and move on, rather than take the time to write long tirades and “school me”. At any rate, keep asking your questions here. You will find most people are kind and willing to help you, remembering that they too were once “newbies”. Hope you find your dream home here in The Villages - it’s a wonderful, friendly community.

[Normal]

What about the wall that is required when they expand turnpike, we have a much lower wall that definitely changes the problem

Nothing has been announced for any wall yet. If one were added, it will be quite a while before any of us see it in the works. There are never any guarantees from the state. I’m not sure testing will even start for decibel levels till the completion of the expansion next year.

[Altavia]

What about the wall that is required when they expand turnpike, we have a much lower wall that definitely changes the problem

Noise Studies are performed in the PD&E phase and re-evaluated during the Design phase for any changes in design to the roadway plan.

These studies:
Identify properties that may be impacted by traffic noise, and
Evaluate ways to mitigate impacts, usually by building noise walls

This link describes the process.

Noise – Florida's Turnpike (https://floridasturnpike.com/business-opportunities/emo/noise/#:~:text=Noise%20walls%20at%20the%20right,on%20top %20of%20embankment%20walls).

Example noise analysis from just south of us at Groveland.

https://floridasturnpike.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/19.-Draft-Noise-Study-Rept.pdf

[Normal]

Noise Studies are performed in the PD&E phase and re-evaluated during the Design phase for any changes in design to the roadway plan.

These studies:
Identify properties that may be impacted by traffic noise, and
Evaluate ways to mitigate impacts, usually by building noise walls

This link describes the process.

Noise – Florida's Turnpike (https://floridasturnpike.com/business-opportunities/emo/noise/#:~:text=Noise%20walls%20at%20the%20right,on%20top %20of%20embankment%20walls).

Example noise analysis from just south of us at Groveland.

https://floridasturnpike.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/19.-Draft-Noise-Study-Rept.pdf

It seems reasonable to expect a wall. Note excerpt “ In some cases, it is because the cost per benefited residence exceeds the FHWA and FDOT threshold. If the cost of the noise wall is greater than the cost per benefited residence, currently $42,000 per benefited residence, the wall is not considered reasonable. Dense neighborhoods have a greater chance of being cost effective than neighborhoods with large tracts of land for each house.”

The neighborhood should be considered dense enough population wise. We know these projects have cost caps, but a noise wall wouldn’t be a reason to have to push additional appropriations through the Florida government. Fortunately the neighborhood would be preexisting from 460 to 44.

[Altavia]

It seems reasonable to expect a wall. Note excerpt “ In some cases, it is because the cost per benefited residence exceeds the FHWA and FDOT threshold. If the cost of the noise wall is greater than the cost per benefited residence, currently $42,000 per benefited residence, the wall is not considered reasonable. Dense neighborhoods have a greater chance of being cost effective than neighborhoods with large tracts of land for each house.”

The neighborhood should be considered dense enough population wise. We know these projects have cost caps, but a noise wall wouldn’t be a reason to have to push additional appropriations through the Florida government. Fortunately the neighborhood would be preexisting from 460 to 44.

There is risk for homes several streets from the barriers that the walls don’t effectively block the sound, and may even help to amplify it.

On Highway Noise Barriers, the Science Is Mixed. Are There Alternatives? (https://undark.org/2017/12/27/highway-noise-barrier-science/)

[BPRICE1234]

Good response BPRICE - I got the same flack from a few “old timers” when I first started posting questions here prior to buying in 2022. I was anxious to learn as much as I could about TV prior to making a major purchase and relocating here. Most people were very friendly, helpful and more importantly “patient” with me as a newbie. I’m so grateful to those kind folks. There were a few unfortunately that seemed annoyed with my rookie questions, and were quick to tell me that some of my questions had been answered in previous posts from years prior, or that I should use ‘google” rather than ask questions here. Like you, I never understood why those few wouldn’t just ignore my posts and move on, rather than take the time to write long tirades and “school me”. At any rate, keep asking your questions here. You will find most people are kind and willing to help you, remembering that they too were once “newbies”. Hope you find your dream home here in The Villages - it’s a wonderful, friendly community.
I appreciate your advice. 99% of the people who respond are very nice.

[brian1255]

We live across from the turnpike and hardly know it's there. Plus no neighbors across the street. Couldn't be happier with our location.

[Altavia]

Does anyone know how loud the turnpike is off Mary Loop? It looks close to the traffic.

Google Maps Street and satellite view can be helpful:

[Normal]

Google Maps Street and satellite view can be helpful:

Here is the nastiness of the power company’s move. These are actual photos taken from homes next to it and posted on FB. Many were really ticked because it was done right after residents had just finished moving in. It’s big and it’s uglier in person.

[KAM+6]

I'd be concerned about air quality. Constant fumes from cars and diesel 16 wheelers. Silent killers.

[villagetinker]

Does anyone know how loud the turnpike is off Mary Loop? It looks close to the traffic.

Bprice, I read through the replies, there are some other things you might want to consider:
1. Taxes if you are also located in one of the cites, you pay county AND city taxes.
2. Adjacent land use if you look at a house next to a field, you have NO CONTROL over what is done in that field.
3. Water view (read the documentation) these are not guaranteed to be there all the time.

IMHO, you may be better off looking at a resale, the neighborhood will be established, you have the possibility to meet the neighbors, etc.

[DARFAP]

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There are phone apps for this, assuming you have a smart phone.

[BPRICE1234]

Google Maps Street and satellite view can be helpful:
Sometimes google maps shows the homes and Sometimes is shows before they were built. Thanks for the pics.

[BPRICE1234]

We live across from the turnpike and hardly know it's there. Plus no neighbors across the street. Couldn't be happier with our location.
Thanks, that seems to be our set up as well. We face the turnpike/barrier and it's very noticeable out front.

Out back is where I would like to mitigate some of the sound. Maybe some trees or water features.

[coffeebean]

Does anyone know how loud the turnpike is off Mary Loop? It looks close to the traffic.

It depends on how good your hearing is or your hearing aides are.

[coffeebean]

I hadn't heard of the train issue. Thanks for the reply, I learned something new.

Our home is nestled between 466 and 466A, two RABs from Lake Sumter Landing. We are in Mallory Square. "Quiet and serene" is the only way I can describe our home, inside and out. The occasional lawn mower noise is the only noise we hear. Oh, and the garbage truck twice a week. That's it. We both have very good hearing and we love it here.

[asianthree]

It depends on how good your hearing is or your hearing aides are.

So while you were at Mary Loop, did you go in the morning, afternoon, or early evening, to evaluate sound? Or did your hearing have any effect?

We have stopped probably 4 different times. Looking at the loop , and houses backing up to 470. Loop was actually less road noise than 470. Our son is looking at a vaca home, with walls or view.

They lived in St Paul, with 6 lanes of highway one house down. We put them in our front bedroom that sometimes you can faintly hear turnpike on occasion.
They have difficulty sleeping at our house due to lack of noise. They actually have a sound machine with traffic noise.
Road no worries, the power line not a big deal, but the lots have very little room with larger models. So search continues.

Richmond East (or whatever name) had about 20 foundations poured couple weeks ago, and walls are getting seated this week. If one doesn’t want any room behind the houses, and doesn’t mind backing up to Meggison. Less than 5 minutes to Brownwood.

[Bogie Shooter]

It depends on how good your hearing is or your hearing aides are.

So while you were at Mary Loop, did you go in the morning, afternoon, or early evening, to evaluate sound? Or did your hearing have any effect?


Or did you even go?

[Altavia]

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Richmond East (or whatever name) had about 20 foundations poured couple weeks ago, and walls are getting seated this week. If one doesn’t want any room behind the houses, and doesn’t mind backing up to Meggison. Less than 5 minutes to Brownwood.

Could be a little risky purchasing next to land between Richmond and Brownwood that could be highly attractive to a future developer.

No telling what might end up behind the wall on the north side.

[asianthree]

So while you were at Mary Loop, did you go in the morning, afternoon, or early evening, to evaluate sound? Or did your hearing have any effect?

We have stopped probably 4 different times. Looking at the loop , and houses backing up to 470. Loop was actually less road noise than 470. Our son is looking at a vaca home, with walls or view.

They lived in St Paul, with 6 lanes of highway one house down. We put them in our front bedroom that sometimes you can faintly hear turnpike on occasion.
They have difficulty sleeping at our house due to lack of noise. They actually have a sound machine with traffic noise.
Road no worries, the power line not a big deal, but the lots have very little room with larger models. So search continues.

Richmond East (or whatever name) had about 20 foundations poured couple weeks ago, and walls are getting seated this week. If one doesn’t want any room behind the houses, and doesn’t mind backing up to Meggison. Less than 5 minutes to Brownwood.

Or did you even go?

Try to read the post in its entirety. Second paragraph clearly states we visited the loop at least 4 times.

[asianthree]

Could be a little risky purchasing next to land between Richmond and Brownwood that could be highly attractive to a future developer.

No telling what might end up behind the wall on the north side.

Do you mean the mobile home park behind the wall.
Commercial property that the developer owns at Meggison & 44, across from Brownwood
Or property at BV&44 that borders between Lake eye surgery center, mobile home park, with the old barn structure that is collapsing? That property twice a year is cut, bailed, that could be straw, nobody bails weeds. Two weeks ago either bat houses or a sort of bird houses installed on fence posts. No idea who owns that piece of land, haven’t noticed any sale sign yet.

[Bogie Shooter]

Try to read the post in its entirety. Second paragraph clearly states we visited the loop at least 4 times.

Was questioning cbeen generic unhelpful comment. Just as you were.

[asianthree]

Was questioning cbeen generic unhelpful comment. Just as you were.

Apologies

[Altavia]

Do you mean the mobile home park behind the wall.
Commercial property that the developer owns at Meggison & 44, across from Brownwood
Or property at BV&44 that borders between Lake eye surgery center, mobile home park, with the old barn structure that is collapsing? That property twice a year is cut, bailed, that could be straw, nobody bails weeds. Two weeks ago either bat houses or a sort of bird houses installed on fence posts. No idea who owns that piece of land, haven’t noticed any sale sign yet.

Wildwood Country resort and ???

See GoldWingnuts video 144 starting at 13:15.

https://youtu.be/awQcCpIWQqU?si=4N8QyQUtNhzIp8-_