Wow, This is one heck of a Cruise

[New Englander]

All-out brawl on Carnival cruise caught on viral video: ‘Got out of hand very, very quickly’ (https://www.yahoo.com/news/brawl-carnival-cruise-caught-viral-164100066.html)

[Stu from NYC]

Very lucky that our family cruise was last week.

We have liked Carnival for many years but clientele last week was a bit rough. Too many people thought they owned the ship.

[shut the front door]

Cheaper is usually not better.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Very lucky that our family cruise was last week.

We have liked Carnival for many years but clientele last week was a bit rough. Too many people thought they owned the ship.

Seems to be the norm now. Nothing a good ’ol nautical Norovirus couldn’t mitigate!:1rotfl:

[Stu from NYC]

Seems to be the norm now. Nothing a good ’ol nautical Norovirus couldn’t mitigate!:1rotfl:

Covid is taking quite a few folks into the realm of former cruisers

[Stu from NYC]

Cheaper is usually not better.

In the past when I wore a younger mans clothes they put out a pretty good product for the money.

As we have gotten older our tastes have changed and mostly sail on a more upscale cruise line.

However our grandkids really enjoyed Camp Carnival so overall glad we went with Carnival for this cruise.

[New Englander]

This Mayhem has nothing to do with the Cruise Line.

[JMintzer]

This Mayhem has nothing to do with the Cruise Line.

I don't know about that... Carnival seems to have a disproportional share of this type of problem...

[Stu from NYC]

I don't know about that... Carnival seems to have a disproportional share of this type of problem...

They do have a good deal of security on the ship. On last weeks cruise a passenger seemed to have flipped out, decided he was attacked by bed bugs and wanted to fight everyone. He was soon surrounded by about 10 security guys and hauled off to the ships jail.

[frayedends]

This Mayhem has nothing to do with the Cruise Line.

Of course it does. They don't call it "Walmart of the Seas" for nothing. The clientele on Carnival is more likely to act in, umm, a less civilized manner.

[Michael 61]

I cruised Carnival for years and years in my 20s/30s/40s. I stopped cruising Carnival about ten years ago - it was a combination of me “outgrowing” that line, and seeing more and more “riff raff” cruising, attracted by their low fares. I’ve been much happier this past decade cruising Holland America and Celebrity.

[Indydealmaker]

All-out brawl on Carnival cruise caught on viral video: ‘Got out of hand very, very quickly’ (https://www.yahoo.com/news/brawl-carnival-cruise-caught-viral-164100066.html)
Remember when women were raised to be ladies rather than thugs?

[rsmurano]

Carnival is the bottom of the barrel of cruise lines. They cater to the younger crowd with their older ships.
But you can get a jack&@$ on any cruise, plane that thinks they own the place. I hope these clowns get years of jail time.

[Girlcopper]

This Mayhem has nothing to do with the Cruise Line.
Yes it does when you offer a cheap cruise and the morons can then afford to board

[BlackHarley]

Cannibal cruise lines!

[mrf6969]

It is still true in life that most of the time you get what you pay for. In this case,
Low price=Low class

[Jameson]

Kids birthday at Chuck E Cheese, shopping malls, airplanes, funerals, weddings, casinos. The location really doesn't seem to matter.

[coleprice]

My wife and I took a CARNIVAL Cruise in mid-January 2024 and found that all of the Crew and Guests pleasant. Everyone just had a good time on the ship and ashore at the private Keys that have nice beaches and serve food. Conflicts can arise anywhere . . . It just takes a few bad apples.

[CODYCAT]

This is today’s society. You see these kinds of clips at Disney, cruises, sporting events, everywhere. And we have people around justifying it. The world use to be a better place. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out. I’m glad I’m old.

[New Englander]

Remember when women were raised to be ladies rather than thugs?

Yes I do remember. The women on this video were (I can't say it).

[MrFlorida]

They don't call it "Carnival" for nothing....

[JanRoberts]

Yes it does when you offer a cheap cruise and the morons can then afford to board

Being in a lower social economic status doesn't make a person a moron. There are plenty of people behaving like morons right here in The Villages!
We only cruised on Carnival once since the lower prices meant it was more affordable to young
families and there were too many kids on board for our liking.

[Marmaduke]

Remember when women were raised to be ladies rather than thugs?
Yes, indeed! Social graces were the norm rather than the exception!
We had the blessings of the nuclear family intact where we were taught the difference between right and wrong, we were punished by our parents sometimes and we learned from making those mistakes, not to do it again.
We knew not to do anything to bring dishonor to our family.

It is all lost in the new world order now.
100% Breakdown of the Family.

[Wondering]

All-out brawl on Carnival cruise caught on viral video: ‘Got out of hand very, very quickly’ (https://www.yahoo.com/news/brawl-carnival-cruise-caught-viral-164100066.html)
Typical racist New York Post video. Pathetic publication, if only Alexander Hamilton could see what happened to his paper.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Acting out much for social media coverage?

[shut the front door]

Typical racist New York Post video. Pathetic publication, if only Alexander Hamilton could see what happened to his paper.

It's racist to publish a video of a dangerous brawl if it's black people committing the crime?
That, in itself, is a very racist comment.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Remember when women were raised to be ladies rather than thugs?

Yup. It was the same time that men were raised to treat women with respect at all times, work 40 hours a week in solid jobs that provided food, clothing, a fine middle-class home, a car, college fund for all the kids, and twice-yearly vacations for the entire family while mom stayed home and folded the laundry.

[Hape2Bhr]

Typical racist New York Post video. Pathetic publication, if only Alexander Hamilton could see what happened to his paper.

Oh! Would you term this a deepfake video? chilout

[Stu from NYC]

It is still true in life that most of the time you get what you pay for. In this case,
Low price=Low class

In the past Carnival was not like this.

IMHO when they sold the drinking package and said you can have 15 drinks a day, and people wanted what they paid for, this sort of behavior started in ernest.

[2newyorkers]

When I hear all of you complain about the next generations all I can think is that you must have pretty rotten children and grandchildren. I am happy and blessed that mine are pretty wonderful.

[Daddymac]

All-out brawl on Carnival cruise caught on viral video: ‘Got out of hand very, very quickly’ (https://www.yahoo.com/news/brawl-carnival-cruise-caught-viral-164100066.html)

I would have never guessed who was fighting……

[nova1968]

It sounds like you’re suggesting that Carnival Cruise Line may not be the best fit for the older residents of The Villages, a large retirement community. This could be due to the type of activities, atmosphere, or amenities offered by Carnival that may not align with the preferences or needs of seniors.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Remember when women were raised to be ladies rather than thugs?

I do....I think that was the pre Walmart era?! :1rotfl:

[Joe C.]

They should have rounded up all those in the fight and made them -- WALK THE PLANK. Guarantee that they wouldn't fight no mo'.

[Shipping up to Boston]

When I hear all of you complain about the next generations all I can think is that you must have pretty rotten children and grandchildren. I am happy and blessed that mine are pretty wonderful.

Is this Alec Baldwin?!

[New Englander]

Typical racist New York Post video. Pathetic publication, if only Alexander Hamilton could see what happened to his paper.

How is it racist? The camera just shows what was going on.

[Joe V.]

It sounds like you’re suggesting that Carnival Cruise Line may not be the best fit for the older residents of The Villages, a large retirement community. This could be due to the type of activities, atmosphere, or amenities offered by Carnival that may not align with the preferences or needs of seniors.
By Jim Walker on May 17, 2024
Posted in Crime

The Department of Transportation (DOT) cruise crime statistics, mandated by the 2010 Cruise Vessel Security and Safety Act, continue to show that Carnival Cruise Line remains by far the most likely cruise line to experience physical and sexual violence at sea.

[shut the front door]

In the past Carnival was not like this.

IMHO when they sold the drinking package and said you can have 15 drinks a day, and people wanted what they paid for, this sort of behavior started in ernest.

Many other cruise lines don't even limit the # of drinks you can have per day, so it's definitely not that!

[Cliff Fr]

Where were the parents of these teens?

[Runway48]

We cruise once or twice a year. Several years ago, we and another couple took a Carnival cruise from NYC to Newfoundland. We had heard about the potential downside of Carnival but the itinerary worked for us. The cruise was okay, but this was the only time I've ever caught norovirus on a cruise. We made dinner time acquaintances with another group of travelers of a similar age. One of them also came down with the virus. There was an element on this ship which stood out as being louder and more self-absorbed than most others as the night went on and that's saying something on a cruise. I didn't see any brawls, but I would not have been surprised to have heard of one if it happened. I doubt that we cruise Carnival again.

[Joe C.]

Sometimes, higher cruise prices are high just to keep the riff raff away.
It's not a guarantee, but it seems to work most of the time.

[Marmaduke]

Where were the parents of these teens?
Where were they? Oh, glad you asked!

They were at the "root" of the cause.

Hope this helps to clarify the gravity of the new normal.

I saw worse than this on video when a "person of female gender" didn't get ketchup in her bag.
The Mc Donald's had to close for remodeling after she tore the place up.
She wasn't acting ladylike, now was she?
She was the mother, teaching her children how to cause bedlam "to get what she want." sic

[FLSunshine]

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[JMintzer]

Yup. It was the same time that men were raised to treat women with respect at all times, work 40 hours a week in solid jobs that provided food, clothing, a fine middle-class home, a car, college fund for all the kids, and twice-yearly vacations for the entire family while mom stayed home and folded the laundry.

When was this "Father Knows Best" fantasy?

Those idiots fighting on the cruise ship are the same age as my daughters (who were raised better than that)...

[JMintzer]

How is it racist? The camera just shows what was going on.

Apparently, cellphone cameras are now racist... Who knew?

[JMintzer]

Many other cruise lines don't even limit the # of drinks you can have per day, so it's definitely not that!

We did a Norwegian Cruise (to Cuba) a few years ago. They don''t have a
"drink package", per say, but well drinks, beer and wine are included.

Once we boarded I was half in the bag before we set sail (really good Mojitos). I went to my cabin a took a nap...

[JMintzer]

Where were the parents of these teens?

I think they were older than "teens"...

[Rodneysblue]

Cheaper is usually not better.

25 cruises and never saw anything like that. It’s a very low percentage.

[biker1]

Depending on which cruise lines you frequent, you could probably take 500 cruises and never see anything like that.


25 cruises and never saw anything like that. It’s a very low percentage.

[JMintzer]

Depending on which cruise lines you frequent, you could probably take 500 cruises and never see anything like that.

What, you never heard of the great "Caviar Debate" on a Silversea Cruise ship?

It rivaled the Rolls Royce vs Bentley ruckus of the Seabourn Line...

Linen Napkins were tossed about and salty language was used...

[Shipping up to Boston]

Depending on which cruise lines you frequent, you could probably take 500 cruises and never see anything like that.

I’m not a numbers guy...but I think if you took ‘500’ cruises, you’re gonna see something! The power of positive thinking will only get you so far....

This...to expand on an earlier poster/post. Interesting read......


DOT First Quarter Cruise-Crime Statistics: Carnival Cruise Line Ships Remain the Most Violent Ships at Sea | Cruise Law News (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2024/05/articles/crime/dot-first-quarter-cruise-crime-statistics-carnival-cruise-line-ships-remain-the-most-violent-ships-at-sea/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjU65mA4pCHAxVUv4kEHXMWCXUQFnoECAcQAg&usg=AOvVaw0s-jtx9f6v2gj_h8CPSGw7)

[Stu from NYC]

Apparently, cellphone cameras are now racist... Who knew?

In the right hands everything is now racist.

[JMintzer]

In the right hands everything is now racist.

I'm left handed...

[Ignatz]

We have about 20 cruises on Carnival under our belt with the latest being just before Covid (Feb 2020). Mostly 5 & 7 day cruises.

Just haven't had enough desire to get back on the ships again since then. Maybe next year (I keep saying).

With that said, we customize our time onboard to not run into problems like seen on the video.

We are up at 5:30 AM to get our steps in up on the track. Then we go back to the room to get cleaned up and ready for the day. Then off to the dining room for breakfast. We don't get off the ship at the ports until most of the crowds have thinned out. Sometimes we stay on board and enjoy the empty ship.

We get back to the ship before the crowds. Some days we'll grab a quick bite for lunch on the Lido. We eat in the dining room every night and then listen to music near the casino before turning in. Most of our free time is spent on our balcony enjoying the sea (and the peace & quiet).

[Salty Dog]

I've been on 25 cruises, but not one on Carnival. I do own some of their stock though which gets me free OBC with Princess. $250 OBC on my last cruise.

As for Carnival being the cheapest, not so anymore. MSC seems to have the best prices now. Their ships are new, large, and beautiful. However some people seem to hate MSC. Mostly because they are more European style cruising, which most are not used to. They now have cruises geared more towards American cruisers in the Caribbean. I've been on 4 or 5 of their cruises out of Miami and Port Canaveral. I was happy with all my cruises with them. Their privates island is great unless you're looking for a Disneyland style island adventure like RCL has.

[Ignatz]

However some people seem to hate MSC. Mostly because they are more European style cruising, which most are not used to.

What is European style cruising?

[Two Bills]

What is European style cruising?

You have to row the ships when becalmed, then help rig the sails when wind gets up, and do all the cooking.

[Robbb]

Yes, indeed! Social graces were the norm rather than the exception!
We had the blessings of the nuclear family intact where we were taught the difference between right and wrong, we were punished by our parents sometimes and we learned from making those mistakes, not to do it again.
We knew not to do anything to bring dishonor to our family.

It is all lost in the new world order now.
100% Breakdown of the Family.

Exactly, this has nothing to do with the cruise line. The destruction of the family has consequences....

[biker1]

The higher cost, smaller boat cruise lines attract an older clientele from the bygone era. These are the Regents, Vikings, Azamaras, Seabourns, Silverseas, etc.


Exactly, this has nothing to do with the cruise line. The destruction of the family has consequences....

[Ecuadog]

You have to row the ships when becalmed, then help rig the sails when wind gets up, and do all the cooking.

Yeah, but you also get a tot of rum when the sun is over the yardarm.

[Stu from NYC]

You have to row the ships when becalmed, then help rig the sails when wind gets up, and do all the cooking.

You forgot shoveling coal

[Two Bills]

You forgot shoveling coal

That's the new modern ships. Coming soon!

[Two Bills]

Yeah, but you also get a tot of rum when the sun is over the yardarm.

Maybe. But some of the ships captains still believe in the lash when rowing is called for!