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Starfire
07-05-2024, 05:05 AM
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As the title says, is this possible to get to the High School or Shallow Creek?

I understand there might be limited MMP

golfing eagles
07-05-2024, 05:18 AM
:gc:
As the title says, is this possible to get to the High School or Shallow Creek?

I understand there might be limited MMP

Did it yesterday. From Lake Deaton to Shallow Creek, 41 minutes, about the same as Glenview or Hacienda Hills.

Starfire
07-05-2024, 05:31 AM
Did it yesterday. From Lake Deaton to Shallow Creek, 41 minutes, about the same as Glenview or Hacienda Hills.

Awesome, Thanks!!!

kansasr
07-05-2024, 06:13 AM
:gc:
As the title says, is this possible to get to the High School or Shallow Creek?

I understand there might be limited MMP

Depending upon where in the north you're coming from, you have two options, the Brownwood and Water Lilly bridges or the Chitty Chatty and Southern Oaks bridges.

tophcfa
07-05-2024, 08:07 AM
Did it yesterday. From Lake Deaton to Shallow Creek, 41 minutes, about the same as Glenview or Hacienda Hills.

How was the course? Only a par 70. Hopefully a better and more interesting layout than Southern Oaks. Reviews from people who played it would be welcome.

golfing eagles
07-05-2024, 01:06 PM
How was the course? Only a par 70. Hopefully a better and more interesting layout than Southern Oaks. Reviews from people who played it would be welcome.

Condition is as good as any course in TV (for now). Pretty wide open and no shade. Mediocre layout, but gets more interesting depending on the tees you play. We played the blue, and there were some intimidating forced carries. Went to a party later and neighbors had played the green---they found it less interesting. Overall, a pretty short course with 4 par 5's, 8 par 4's and 6 par 3's. I'd play it again.

dewilson58
07-05-2024, 01:42 PM
Condition is as good as any course in TV (for now). Pretty wide open and no shade. Mediocre layout,

Same designer, Same results.

hosegooseman
07-06-2024, 04:14 AM
:gc:
As the title says, is this possible to get to the High School or Shallow Creek?

I understand there might be limited MMP

We like in Silver Lake and have done that golf cart trip to that area (high school, Middleton, Shadybrook, etc) many times. No issues. About 1.3 hrs each way. Super fun !!!

Janie123
07-06-2024, 05:58 AM
How was the course? Only a par 70. Hopefully a better and more interesting layout than Southern Oaks. Reviews from people who played it would be welcome.
Interesting layout… very firm greens but smooth. Two interesting par 5’s first one we had to hit the 2nd shot away from the green about 45 deg to the right then back. 18 is such as hard dogleg left, they made it out of bounds to hit down 10 fairway. Lots more undulations than SO. 17 was a dog leg right around homes… I see broken glass in the future.

Overall, I felt the course was fairly easy compared to Glenview, Lopez and Palmer and nothing like Hibiscus at Cane Garden.

One more thing, no trees anywhere except a few palms that were newly planted, maybe in 5 years they will come into play.

Accidental1
07-06-2024, 06:21 AM
:gc:
As the title says, is this possible to get to the High School or Shallow Creek?

I understand there might be limited MMP
Yes. You can get directions on the Villages GPS app

jarodrig
07-06-2024, 09:21 AM
:gc:
As the title says, is this possible to get to the High School or Shallow Creek?

I understand there might be limited MMP

Download the FREE Villages navigation app from Apple Store . The new routes are there and will take you right to it ……. Clean sailing on the MMP s…..

Here is what the icon looks like.

lawgolfer
07-06-2024, 09:34 AM
How was the course? Only a par 70. Hopefully a better and more interesting layout than Southern Oaks. Reviews from people who played it would be welcome.
The grass on the fairways is excellent. The greens are perfect--without question, they are the best in The Villages. This proves that all that is needed to grow grass is sun and water. Certainly, there is plenty of sun as the only living thing that could find shade on the course would be an ant under a blade of grass. This is not going to improve as the only trees are palms.

By car, the best route is from Southern Oaks on Bexley Trail. Even in a car, you feel as if you are driving to the end of the earth and are tempted to check your gas gauge. Don't think about driving your own cart unless you live south of the Turnpike.

Most interestingly, on opening day, Bexley Trail as it neared the course, was blocked off with "Road Closed" signs. Thankfully, someone had moved the barricades enough to allow a car to squeeze through. The street from Bexley Tr to the clubhouse was, likewise, blocked.

tophcfa
07-06-2024, 10:15 AM
Condition is as good as any course in TV (for now). Pretty wide open and no shade. Mediocre layout, but gets more interesting depending on the tees you play. We played the blue, and there were some intimidating forced carries. Went to a party later and neighbors had played the green---they found it less interesting. Overall, a pretty short course with 4 par 5's, 8 par 4's and 6 par 3's. I'd play it again.

Interesting layout… very firm greens but smooth. Two interesting par 5’s first one we had to hit the 2nd shot away from the green about 45 deg to the right then back. 18 is such as hard dogleg left, they made it out of bounds to hit down 10 fairway. Lots more undulations than SO. 17 was a dog leg right around homes… I see broken glass in the future.

Overall, I felt the course was fairly easy compared to Glenview, Lopez and Palmer and nothing like Hibiscus at Cane Garden.

One more thing, no trees anywhere except a few palms that were newly planted, maybe in 5 years they will come into play.

The grass on the fairways is excellent. The greens are perfect--without question, they are the best in The Villages. This proves that all that is needed to grow grass is sun and water. Certainly, there is plenty of sun as the only living thing that could find shade on the course would be an ant under a blade of grass. This is not going to improve as the only trees are palms.

By car, the best route is from Southern Oaks on Bexley Trail. Even in a car, you feel as if you are driving to the end of the earth and are tempted to check your gas gauge. Don't think about driving your own cart unless you live south of the Turnpike.

Most interestingly, on opening day, Bexley Trail as it neared the course, was blocked off with "Road Closed" signs. Thankfully, someone had moved the barricades enough to allow a car to squeeze through. The street from Bexley Tr to the clubhouse was, likewise, blocked.

Thanks for the reviews. I’m sure I’ll play it eventually (have to get a logo ball for the ball rack), but based on what I’m hearing there is no pressing reason to make it a must play anytime soon. Another wide open mediocre layout, only 18 hole par 70 course with no clubhouse, tied with Southern Oaks for the highest green fees in the Villages, isn’t creating a calling. The two newest Championship offerings are making me feel very fortunate to live in an area where there are multiple 27 hole Championship courses (plus Tierra Del Sol), all with par 72 rotations, a variety of interesting and varied layouts, decent clubhouses and restaurants (except for Hacienda Hills), and lower green fees.

EviesGP
07-06-2024, 11:57 AM
Depending upon where in the north you're coming from, you have two options, the Brownwood and Water Lilly bridges or the Chitty Chatty and Southern Oaks bridges.

Carted it there a few days ago, and it took 55mins from St James. NOTE: Although, you will eventually get there by going thru Magnolia Plaza(i.e. Brownwood/Water Lily Bridge), the MMP tunnel from Marsh Bend Trail to Central Parkway was blocked off. I think because of current construction, they don't want cart traffic in that area yet?

golfing eagles
07-06-2024, 01:15 PM
The grass on the fairways is excellent. The greens are perfect--without question, they are the best in The Villages. This proves that all that is needed to grow grass is sun and water. Certainly, there is plenty of sun as the only living thing that could find shade on the course would be an ant under a blade of grass. This is not going to improve as the only trees are palms.

By car, the best route is from Southern Oaks on Bexley Trail. Even in a car, you feel as if you are driving to the end of the earth and are tempted to check your gas gauge. Don't think about driving your own cart unless you live south of the Turnpike.

Most interestingly, on opening day, Bexley Trail as it neared the course, was blocked off with "Road Closed" signs. Thankfully, someone had moved the barricades enough to allow a car to squeeze through. The street from Bexley Tr to the clubhouse was, likewise, blocked.

As already stated above, I thought of it, I did it, and I'm doing it again tomorrow. from Lake Deaton (well north of the turnpike) it took 41 minutes, slightly longer than Glenview but shorter than Lopez, and OBH, and same as Hacienda Hills

P A Paul
07-06-2024, 07:50 PM
Lots and lots of water, but very little comes into play. Aesthetically pleasing and void of gators, who haven’t discovered it yet. Except for housing construction, extremely quiet.

golfing eagles
07-07-2024, 05:27 AM
Lots and lots of water, but very little comes into play. Aesthetically pleasing and void of gators, who haven’t discovered it yet. Except for housing construction, extremely quiet.

It's the ones you don't see that you have to worry about :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

dewilson58
07-07-2024, 05:31 AM
Drove down to Sha Creek from the 466a area.

50 minutes in the golf cart.

Wide Open Corn Field...................without the corn.

:undecided:

golfing eagles
07-07-2024, 05:34 AM
Drove down to Sha Creek from the 466a area.

50 minutes in the golf cart.

Wide Open Corn Field...................without the corn.

:undecided:

Wide open, sure. But I forgot to mention that the rough is EXTREMELY thick----if the ball is even halfway down it's almost impossible to hold the clubface off

tophcfa
07-07-2024, 08:33 AM
So happy the new course is up and running, the high school golf team now has a new home course and will no longer be taking up valuable t times at Glenview : )

BrianL99
07-07-2024, 03:37 PM
So it's over an hour Cart ride, from Sumter Landing?

Par 70?

Did I read there's a 225 yard Par 3 ?

Papa_lecki
07-07-2024, 04:15 PM
So it's over an hour Cart ride, from Sumter Landing?

Par 70?

Did I read there's a 225 yard Par 3 ?

Just looked at the score card.
From the Tips, there’s a 180, a 210 and a 220 par 3.
One par 5, is 557
Par 4s don’t look interesting, total yardage from the tip is 6468

BrianL99
07-07-2024, 04:34 PM
Just looked at the score card.
From the Tips, there’s a 180, a 210 and a 220 par 3.
One par 5, is 557
Par 4s don’t look interesting, total yardage from the tip is 6468

I would rather see The Villages build interesting, strategic 6000 yard courses, instead what they build.

I've been here for 4 years and I've seen exactly one person (me) playing Gold Tees and I've never seen anyone on a Black Tee box. I'm sure it happens, but it's certainly a rarity.

If they never built another 6800 yard course, I doubt they'd be much complaining going on.

Elaine Dickinson
07-07-2024, 04:36 PM
I've played it three times and will also agree that it has the best greens and fairways in the villages. my playing partners played from the Gold tees (the tips) and it was definitely a different experience than mine. They were challenged on multiple holes. Also way more interesting than Southern Oaks. Also there were more 20-30 year olds playing the course than any other course in The Villages. They were also playing the Gold Tees.

UpNorth
07-07-2024, 06:06 PM
Nearly all the so called "championship" courses are boring, wide open designs due to the developer tuning over boring drainage area land to route holes around. Can't blame the architect, who has designed more interesting layouts elsewhere. Overpriced and forgettable courses for the masses is what you get.

BrianL99
07-07-2024, 06:28 PM
Can't blame the architect, who has designed more interesting layouts elsewhere.

It's a low bar.

P A Paul
07-08-2024, 06:10 PM
Excessive flatland void of natural features, lacking trees, and a virtual flood plain….
Not much a designer can do. Course is playable and if you’re not challenged move back a tee. Small weakness is distance from clubhouse after 18th green.

dewilson58
07-08-2024, 06:18 PM
Excessive flatland void of natural features, lacking trees, and a virtual flood plain….
Not much a designer can do.

Did you see the amount of "dirt" they moved and the piles South of 44??

Have you seen the thirty foot trees planted at Brownwood, Sawgrass, etc.??

Easy for a designer......................jus not the old dude they hired.

:loco:

tophcfa
07-08-2024, 06:28 PM
Nearly all the so called "championship" courses are boring, wide open designs due to the developer tuning over boring drainage area land to route holes around. Can't blame the architect, who has designed more interesting layouts elsewhere. Overpriced and forgettable courses for the masses is what you get.

I don’t find Palmer, Tierra, Glenview, Belle, Evans, Lopez, or Cane to be boring at all. I also very much enjoy playing Hacienda, Mallory, Havana, and Bonifay. I definitely enjoy certain rotations better than others on the 10 27 hole courses, but they are all good. I also enjoy playing Orange Blossom, especially the back 9. I haven’t yet played Shallow Creek, so I will reserve judgment despite the not so good reviews I have heard. Of the 13 Villages Championship courses I have played, Southern Oaks is at the bottom of my list based on both the course and the whole configuration of the setup. Hopefully Shallow Creek and the other new courses being built will rival the quality of courses like Palmer, Tierra, and Glenview? Time will tell.

dewilson58
07-08-2024, 06:45 PM
1)I don’t find Palmer, Tierra, Glenview, Belle, Evans, Lopez, or Cane to be boring at all.
2)I also very much enjoy playing Hacienda, Mallory, Havana, and Bonifay.
3)I definitely enjoy certain rotations better than others on the 10 27 hole courses, but they are all good.
4)I also enjoy playing Orange Blossom, especially the back 9.
5)I haven’t yet played Shallow Creek, so I will reserve judgment despite the not so good reviews I have heard.
6)Of the 13 Villages Championship courses I have played, Southern Oaks is at the bottom of my list based on both the course and the whole configuration of the setup.
7)Hopefully Shallow Creek and the other new courses being built will rival the quality of courses like Palmer, Tierra, and Glenview?
8)Time will tell.

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4) I'll pass
5)Ditto
6)Yepper
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8):highfive:

P A Paul
07-08-2024, 08:47 PM
Ole Abe was correct…you can’t please etc etc
We refer to Orange Blossom as Jurassic Park.
Southern Oaks gets high marks for course conditions and challenging greens.
Likewise Glenview and TDS.
All in all, to have so many courses, varieties and golf cart access are reasons why many live here.
For additional options, another dozen+ high quality courses within an hour drive of Brownwood, in any direction, is why many golfers are here.

Interestingly, many from up north, thought nothing of belonging to a country club and playing the same 18 (sometimes 36) hole course(s) over and over and over again, year after year after year.

With TV course variety, changing conditions (aeration) and playable weather 365…happy golf!!

Calisport
07-08-2024, 09:51 PM
From Bexley bridge its only about 12 minutes by golf cart. Only the constructions areas are blocked off to golf carts. You don't have to go to the high school to get to the golf course. Drive through the homes instead.