Alec Baldwin Saunters Into Court

[manaboutown]

Alec actually showed up in court. He has humongous financial and other resources and has a top notch and expensive legal team. Should be interesting...

Alec Baldwin '''Rust''' trial: Actor saunters into court for pretrial hearing | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-trial-actor-saunters-court-pretrial-hearing)

[BillY41]

People will argue the point but he was indicted and has culpability for a manslaughter conviction. If that happens it will show the 'Hollywood Elite' that they are not teflon.

[JohnN]

People will argue the point but he was indicted and has culpability for a manslaughter conviction. If that happens it will show the 'Hollywood Elite' that they are not teflon.

that's a big IF there.

[Two Bills]

You have to laugh at headline writers, who have made up their minds before a case has begun.
I just watched a video of Baldwin arriving, and he, to me, just walked into the court.
But 'saunter' is so much better if you have an agenda.

[manaboutown]

Uh-oh... What a preposterous ruling!

Alec Baldwin '''Rust''' trial: Judge makes major ruling in actor'''s favor | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-trial-judge-makes-major-ruling-actors-favor)

[Taltarzac725]

Uh-oh... What a preposterous ruling!

Alec Baldwin '''Rust''' trial: Judge makes major ruling in actor'''s favor | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-trial-judge-makes-major-ruling-actors-favor)

Does not follow that as a producer of the movie that Baldwin is responsible for gun safety on a movie set. Good ruling.


Let's have tests on whether that specific gun went off without the trigger being pulled.

[Marathon Man]

You have to laugh at headline writers, who have made up their minds before a case has begun.
I just watched a video of Baldwin arriving, and he, to me, just walked into the court.
But 'saunter' is so much better if you have an agenda.

Exactly correct. Well said.

[fdpaq0580]

You have to laugh at headline writers, who have made up their minds before a case has begun.
I just watched a video of Baldwin arriving, and he, to me, just walked into the court.
But 'saunter' is so much better if you have an agenda.

I thought this was going to be a joke. You know, like "a guy goes into a bar" kind of joke.
Maybe next time.

[Kelevision]

People will argue the point but he was indicted and has culpability for a manslaughter conviction. If that happens it will show the 'Hollywood Elite' that they are not teflon.

I’m glad New Mexico has all this extra cash to burn.

[Kelevision]

I’ve worked on film/tv sets for 30 years with plenty of guns. For the gun to get handed off to an actor is the full responsibility of the Armorer. That person’s job is to lock up the gun, NEVER have live rounds on set, only blanks, but most importantly, that gun cannot leave that persons hands until both the first AD and Armorer look inside the gun to make sure nothing is stuck in there ( Brandon Lee ) which was a union rule put in place because of Brandon Lee getting shot and killed on set years ago. Once that’s done the AD will yell out “cold gun on set” I’m also curious why they’d even use a real gun for a rehearsal instead of the rubber one. But so many things went wrong on this set. First, union camera crew quit days before due to safety issues. The armorer had just been fired from a Nick Cage movie because nobody felt safe with her. She was new to the job. IMO the Line Producer is just as guilty for hiring her and non union crews on a union shoot to save money. When shows try to save money and hire less experienced people bad things happen. I worked in Atlanta for 8 years on a tv series and one of our camera assistants was killed by a train because they were told they COULD NOT shoot on a live train track but the producer/director decided to take a small crew and call it a “rehearsal” but actually filmed and my friend was killed. That director was in prison all of maybe 2 years and is still making movies. Meanwhile, I wanted to shoot a scene on a sidewalk with a parking lot in between the train tracks and was told NOT SAFE so I picked another spot.

[Caymus]

Is the trial televised?

[manaboutown]

I checked out the background of the judge. She was appointed by former governor Bill Richardson who largely is responsible for providing incentives to get the film industry into New Mexico. She should have recused herself.

Mary Marlowe Sommer - Ballotpedia (https://ballotpedia.org/Mary_Marlowe_Sommer)

[Taltarzac725]

I checked out the background of the judge. She was appointed by former governor Bill Richardson who largely is responsible for providing incentives to get the film industry into New Mexico. She should have recused herself.

Mary Marlowe Sommer - Ballotpedia (https://ballotpedia.org/Mary_Marlowe_Sommer)

Again. Does not follow.

So what that Richardson appointed this woman? There is no evidence that she could not be objective in this case.

[michgary]

The union camera crew quit days before days before because of safety concerns,,, they knew something was not right,, which was that target practice was going on with live rounds during off hours.
That is the responsibility of the producer,, to have a safe set to film a movie. Do you really think Baldwin did not know there was target practice taking place on set ,, kinda loud to miss. Why did the union cam crew quit for safety?
Baldwin was negligent in the least,, or who is in charge?
Nobody?

[Taltarzac725]

The union camera crew quit days before days before because of safety concerns,,, they knew something was not right,, which was that target practice was going on with live rounds during off hours.
That is the responsibility of the producer,, to have a safe set to film a movie. Do you really think Baldwin did not know there was target practice taking place on set ,, kinda loud to miss. Why did the union cam crew quit for safety?
Baldwin was negligent in the least,, or who is in charge?
Nobody?

The weapons are the responsibility of the armorer.

[manaboutown]

The union camera crew quit days before days before because of safety concerns,,, they knew something was not right,, which was that target practice was going on with live rounds during off hours.
That is the responsibility of the producer,, to have a safe set to film a movie. Do you really think Baldwin did not know there was target practice taking place on set ,, kinda loud to miss. Why did the union cam crew quit for safety?
Baldwin was negligent in the least,, or who is in charge?
Nobody?

You are correct. The NM state law governs, not "Hollywood rules".

Alec was criminally negligent both as a producer and as an individual. A scene was not being shot so he was not acting at that time. On his own hook he was fooling around with a loaded revolver without checking it for live rounds even though it had been used with live rounds to shoot at targets. He pointed the weapon at the poor woman and pulled the trigger, killing her and then denied pulling the trigger to the police. I hope and pray he ends up rotting in the state prison in Santa Fe but fear he will walk. The writing is on the wall with the ruling this judge already made. Very sad...

[michgary]

Even the "hollywood judge" ; he was paid to bring movies to New Mexico; cannot deny the facts and Baldwins culpability. It was his dam movie. I have faith he's not going scott free. :agree:

[VILLAGERBB]

My question is why would ANYONE do this?


I’ve worked on film/tv sets for 30 years with plenty of guns. For the gun to get handed off to an actor is the full responsibility of the Armorer. That person’s job is to lock up the gun, NEVER have live rounds on set, only blanks, but most importantly, that gun cannot leave that persons hands until both the first AD and Armorer look inside the gun to make sure nothing is stuck in there ( Brandon Lee ) which was a union rule put in place because of Brandon Lee getting shot and killed on set years ago. Once that’s done the AD will yell out “cold gun on set” I’m also curious why they’d even use a real gun for a rehearsal instead of the rubber one. But so many things went wrong on this set. First, union camera crew quit days before due to safety issues. The armorer had just been fired from a Nick Cage movie because nobody felt safe with her. She was new to the job. IMO the Line Producer is just as guilty for hiring her and non union crews on a union shoot to save money. When shows try to save money and hire less experienced people bad things happen. I worked in Atlanta for 8 years on a tv series and one of our camera assistants was killed by a train because they were told they COULD NOT shoot on a live train track but the producer/director decided to take a small crew and call it a “rehearsal” but actually filmed and my friend was killed. That director was in prison all of maybe 2 years and is still making movies. Meanwhile, I wanted to shoot a scene on a sidewalk with a parking lot in between the train tracks and was told NOT SAFE so I picked another spot.

[JMintzer]

The weapons are the responsibility of the armorer.

And who is responsible for the Armorer?

The PRODUCER (AKA Baldwin...)

[Marathon Man]

You are correct. The NM state law governs, not "Hollywood rules".

Alec was criminally negligent both as a producer and as an individual. A scene was not being shot so he was not acting at that time. On his own hook he was fooling around with a loaded revolver without checking it for live rounds even though it had been used with live rounds to shoot at targets. He pointed the weapon at the poor woman and pulled the trigger, killing her and then denied pulling the trigger to the police. I hope and pray he ends up rotting in the state prison in Santa Fe but fear he will walk. The writing is on the wall with the ruling this judge already made. Very sad...

Well, I guess we now understand the "saunters" comment in the heading.

[Two Bills]

If Baldwin voted for the other party, this thread, would probably have a totally different script.
That's Hollywood for you.
Funny old world.

[frayedends]

This should be a simple case. Baldwin, who by his own admission is a firearms expert (at least the way he carries on about banning guns, he certainly must making that claim), took a loaded gun, pointed at a person and pulled the trigger.

I don't care how many people outside of him were "responsible". He pulled the trigger. He did not properly check the gun. It wasn't a prop. It was a real gun.

If I go into a gun range and rent a gun, and the range safety officer hands me a gun, tells me it is not loaded, and I point it at a person and shoot them...there is no scenario where I don't go to jail for manslaughter, at the very least. There is no difference here. He knew it was a real gun and he murdered a person with it.

[Two Bills]

He knew it was a real gun and he murdered a person with it.

A murder charge under these circumstances would definitely be a not guilty verdict.

[LeRoySmith]

A murder charge under these circumstances would definitely be a not guilty verdict.

Agreed.

People don't kill people, guns kill people.

[Two Bills]

Agreed.

People don't kill people, guns kill people.

Well, a gun and a person were certainly involved in the death of the poor lady.

[LeRoySmith]

Well, a gun and a person were certainly involved in the death of the poor lady.

That poor lady would be alive today if of the human half of this equation did their part.

The revolver knows 1 thing; trigger pulled = hammer falls on pin/primer. Everything else is up to the human.

[frayedends]

A murder charge under these circumstances would definitely be a not guilty verdict.

I consider manslaughter a form of murder.

[Stu from NYC]

I’ve worked on film/tv sets for 30 years with plenty of guns. For the gun to get handed off to an actor is the full responsibility of the Armorer. That person’s job is to lock up the gun, NEVER have live rounds on set, only blanks, but most importantly, that gun cannot leave that persons hands until both the first AD and Armorer look inside the gun to make sure nothing is stuck in there ( Brandon Lee ) which was a union rule put in place because of Brandon Lee getting shot and killed on set years ago. Once that’s done the AD will yell out “cold gun on set” I’m also curious why they’d even use a real gun for a rehearsal instead of the rubber one. But so many things went wrong on this set. First, union camera crew quit days before due to safety issues. The armorer had just been fired from a Nick Cage movie because nobody felt safe with her. She was new to the job. IMO the Line Producer is just as guilty for hiring her and non union crews on a union shoot to save money. When shows try to save money and hire less experienced people bad things happen. I worked in Atlanta for 8 years on a tv series and one of our camera assistants was killed by a train because they were told they COULD NOT shoot on a live train track but the producer/director decided to take a small crew and call it a “rehearsal” but actually filmed and my friend was killed. That director was in prison all of maybe 2 years and is still making movies. Meanwhile, I wanted to shoot a scene on a sidewalk with a parking lot in between the train tracks and was told NOT SAFE so I picked another spot.

Wow how can they be so careless?

[dewilson58]

Wow how can they be so careless?

All the comments have been................it started at the top.

:ohdear:

[Two Bills]

I consider manslaughter a form of murder.

Good job you're not a defense lawyer then.

[Stu from NYC]

All the comments have been................it started at the top.

:ohdear:

True but quite a few of the people involved in this knew better

[Stu from NYC]

Guess if you are rich and famous you can get away with murder or perhaps manslaughter

[Kelevision]

Thankfully that was one smart judge!!!!!

[Kelevision]

Guess if you are rich and famous you can get away with murder or perhaps manslaughter

George Zimmerman was neither rich or famous and actually did murder someone ON PURPOSE

[manaboutown]

Another killer will walk. Predictably this judge could not dismiss the case with prejudice fast enough.

"SANTA FE — The criminal case against actor Alec Baldwin imploded in spectacular fashion Friday when a judge threw out the involuntary manslaughter charge after finding that prosecutors had withheld evidence.

District Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer ruled on the third day of testimony that "dismissal with prejudice is warranted" because prosecutors failed to turn over live ammunition turned over in March to the Santa Fe Sheriff's Office. The case will not be refiled.

Baldwin, his attorneys and family members walked out of the Santa Fe District Courthouse without commenting to the throngs of reporters and camera crews asking for his response to the dismissal.


The Baldwin trial took a wild turn Friday morning when defense attorneys demanded that prosecutors produce ammunition that a "good Samaritan" turned over in March to the Santa Fe Sheriff's Office.

His attorneys also asked state District Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer to dismiss the case against Baldwin, alleging that prosecutors and investigators "hid" critical evidence from the defense.

The dramatic turn of events brought the trial to a crashing halt as Marlowe Sommer considers the defense motion to dismiss the case. The judge dismissed the jury about 10:15 a.m. and told them to return Monday. At 4:30 p.m. she made the jury's dismissal permanent.

"Dismissal with prejudice is a very extreme thing," Marlowe Sommer said before granting it.

"The defendant must show that the prosecution suppressed evidence, the evidence was favorable to the accused and the evidence was material to the defense," the judge said.

Marlowe Sommer found that Baldwin's legal team met all three prongs of a Brady violation, which allows a judge to dismiss all charges against defendant.

The surprise ending to the high-profile trial may have exceeded anything a Hollywood scriptwriter could have written. It included the lead special prosecutor Kari Morrissey testifying in the witness stand while being cross examined by a defense attorney.

The hour-long hearing involved an unusual scene in which the judge donned blue latex gloves and came down from her bench to examine about a dozen live rounds as attorneys and a crime scene investigator gathered around."

Judge tosses criminal charge against Baldwin | News | abqjournal.com (https://www.abqjournal.com/news/judge-pauses-baldwin-trial-to-consider-motion-to-dismiss/article_aa36c680-406f-11ef-ba09-bbdd7da35be7.html?utm_source=3Demailnotif&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletter%2Foptimize%2Fdaily-headlines-pm%2F%3F-dc%3D1720821655&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headline)

[LeRoySmith]

Thankfully that was one smart judge!!!!!

We seem to have a lot of really smart judges these days.

[manaboutown]

We seem to have a lot of really smart judges these days.

Well, at least on the US Supreme Court we do have some.

[JMintzer]

George Zimmerman was neither rich or famous and actually did murder someone ON PURPOSE

Except he didn't... Shooting someone who is on top of you, banging your head into the sidewalk is in no way murder... By ANY legal definition...

[RobbyHarris]

Case dismissed with prejudice. Can't be retried.

[Taltarzac725]

A fair result given the mishandling and lying about the evidence.

[Kelevision]

Except he didn't... Shooting someone who is on top of you, banging your head into the sidewalk is in no way murder... By ANY legal definition...

Um….. what?!?! Martin was visiting relatives at the time of the shooting.Zimmerman became suspicious of Martin and called police; Zimmerman attacked Martin and then shot him with a pistol he was licensed to carry.

In a widely reported trial, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder for Martin's death, but acquitted by the jury after claiming self-defense, although Martin had no weapon.

I guess a 17 year old with skittles would seem very dangerous to an unstable person carrying a gun.

[Kelevision]

I checked out the background of the judge. She was appointed by former governor Bill Richardson who largely is responsible for providing incentives to get the film industry into New Mexico. She should have recused herself.

Mary Marlowe Sommer - Ballotpedia (https://ballotpedia.org/Mary_Marlowe_Sommer)

Oh please….. the prosecutors hid evidence that would’ve helped the Baldwin case and why is it when things don’t go your way, you people cry foul. Would the judge have been okay if she’d done the wrong thing just because Alec made fun of your King? Haha

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Um….. what?!?! Martin was visiting relatives at the time of the shooting.Zimmerman became suspicious of Martin and called police; Zimmerman attacked Martin and then shot him with a pistol he was licensed to carry.

In a widely reported trial, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder for Martin's death, but acquitted by the jury after claiming self-defense, although Martin had no weapon.

I guess a 17 year old with skittles would seem very dangerous to an unstable person carrying a gun.

Zimmerman has a history of violence, several times involving a firearm in his possession. He's been charged with assault and threatening multiple times over the years and has been set free every single time so far. Zimmerman is trash.

[frayedends]

I didn't watch any of it, but the consensus among people on a gun forum I frequent was the prosecution was a total mess. No matter what any of us thought the outcome should be, they all agreed it would be dismissed or found innocent because the prosecution was horrible.

[frayedends]

Um….. what?!?! Martin was visiting relatives at the time of the shooting.Zimmerman became suspicious of Martin and called police; Zimmerman attacked Martin and then shot him with a pistol he was licensed to carry.

In a widely reported trial, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder for Martin's death, but acquitted by the jury after claiming self-defense, although Martin had no weapon.

I guess a 17 year old with skittles would seem very dangerous to an unstable person carrying a gun.

The skittles and Arizona drink were for him to make a drug with codein, which he had literally posted about making since 2011. He was smashing Zimmerman's head against the ground when he was shot. It was a self defense shooting.

None of that means I don't think Zim is a scumbag. His actions since that shooting have proved it multiple times. But Martin was a druggy thug and no attempts by the media to portray him otherwise change that fact. The media even altered pictures of Martin to make him look like a nice innocent kid, when in fact his posted pics show otherwise.

[Stu from NYC]

Guess the prosecutors should be in the process of finding new careers.

[manaboutown]

A fair result given the mishandling and lying about the evidence.

Why is it fair that a killer who lied to police about pulling the trigger and is as guilty as sin walks?

[Stu from NYC]

Why is it fair that a killer who lied to police about pulling the trigger and is as guilty as sin walks?

Not fair at all

[Two Bills]

Justice and the law are two different animals.
There should be some heads mounted on a wall, at the prosecutor's office.

[LeRoySmith]

Justice and the law are two different animals.
There should be some heads mounted on a wall, at the prosecutor's office.

One of these days, when 'they' come to their senses and make me grand poobah and supreme ruler, things will be different.

[Taltarzac725]

Why is it fair that a killer who lied to police about pulling the trigger and is as guilty as sin walks?

How do you know what actually happened? He would have had post traumatic stress problems after seeing the gun putting real bullets into his co-workers. His memory probably is not all that good. He was given a "cold gun". Someone he trusted told him that.

[justjim]

Karma working the best IMHO. The only guilt was he “trusted” others too much. He was not at fault and karma is alive and well in this case. Time to move on.

[manaboutown]

How do you know what actually happened? He would have had post traumatic stress problems after seeing the gun putting real bullets into his co-workers. His memory probably is not all that good. He was given a "cold gun". Someone he trusted told him that.

The world knows what happened, including the judge. Without checking to see if the revolver was loaded while fooling with it on his own time, not in a scene being filmed, Baldwin aimed the revolver at that poor woman, pulled the trigger, and shot her stone cold dead. Then he lied to the police, stating he did not pull the trigger. Those are the facts of the matter.

[Taltarzac725]

The world knows what happened, including the judge. Without checking to see if the revolver was loaded while fooling with it on his own time, not in a scene being filmed, Baldwin aimed the revolver at that poor woman, pulled the trigger, and shot her stone cold dead. Then he lied to the police, stating he did not pull the trigger. Those are the facts of the matter.

Facts do not need spinning. They just are.

[manaboutown]

Facts do not need spinning. They just are.

That is my point.

[Marathon Man]

The world knows what happened, including the judge. Without checking to see if the revolver was loaded while fooling with it on his own time, not in a scene being filmed, Baldwin aimed the revolver at that poor woman, pulled the trigger, and shot her stone cold dead. Then he lied to the police, stating he did not pull the trigger. Those are the facts of the matter.

Did Alec Baldwin step on your toe or something? You seem to have a genuine hatred of him.

[Taltarzac725]

Did Alec Baldwin step on your toe or something? You seem to have a genuine hatred of him.

I do not want to get into trouble. But think about how many people have seen Baldwin on a certain show?

I have no idea what kind of person Alec Baldwin is but he does a good job on some shows. He is a talented actor.

I need to not spell it out.

[Stu from NYC]

Did Alec Baldwin step on your toe or something? You seem to have a genuine hatred of him.

From what we have heard he should not get away with killing that poor woman.

Carelessness is no excuse

[frayedends]

Did Alec Baldwin step on your toe or something? You seem to have a genuine hatred of him.

I have a genuine hatred of him. He goes spouting off his anti-gun rhetoric for years and believes no citizen should own a gun. But between me and him, only one of us has shot and killed an innocent person. He's a total scumbag.

I'm baffled by the posts saying his only error was trusting someone else. Is there anyone in this thread that thinks they'd get released if they shot someone, using the excuse, "I didn't know it was loaded, someone else told me it wasn't."

Nope, every one of us would be sent to prison. Every single one of us. But he goes free. It isn't right. The prosecution is to blame.

[Taltarzac725]

I have a genuine hatred of him. He goes spouting off his anti-gun rhetoric for years and believes no citizen should own a gun. But between me and him, only one of us has shot and killed an innocent person. He's a total scumbag.

I'm baffled by the posts saying his only error was trusting someone else. Is there anyone in this thread that thinks they'd get released if they shot someone, using the excuse, "I didn't know it was loaded, someone else told me it wasn't."

Nope, every one of us would be sent to prison. Every single one of us. But he goes free. It isn't right. The prosecution is to blame.

It is not his job on a movie set to check the ammunition. And again he was told it was a "cold gun". This is very different from someone in their own home pointing a gun at a burglar. Or some kid thinking that his pistol was full of blanks while goofing off his house.

[frayedends]

It is not his job on a movie set to check the ammunition. And again he was told it was a "cold gun". This is very different from someone in their own home pointing a gun at a burglar. Or some kid thinking that his pistol was full of blanks while goofing off his house.

It is not different. I've used this analogy a few times. If I were at a gun range, and the range safety officer handed me a gun, told me it wasn't loaded, and I shot and killed someone, I would go to jail.

The person responsible is the person holding the firearm. He claims to be a gun expert. He did not check his gun. He knew it was used for real target shooting. "Not my job". Give me a break. Of course it's his job. He ignored all the gun safety rules.

[Kenswing]

It is not different. I've used this analogy a few times. If I were at a gun range, and the range safety officer handed me a gun, told me it wasn't loaded, and I shot and killed someone, I would go to jail.

The person responsible is the person holding the firearm. He claims to be a gun expert. He did not check his gun. He knew it was used for real target shooting. "Not my job". Give me a break. Of course it's his job. He ignored all the gun safety rules.
I’m afraid you’re wasting your breath. Some people don’t understand or don’t want to understand what gun safety and responsibility are.

[Taltarzac725]

I’m afraid you’re wasting your breath. Some people don’t understand or don’t want to understand what gun safety and responsibility are.

Movie set! It would be a terrible mistake to expect actors on a set to check their guns for real bullets every time they pick up a weapon.

If Baldwin pointed a gun at someone outside of a movie set and it went off he like anyone else should be charged for some kind of crime depending on the circumstances.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

To this day, if someone handed me a gun and told me it was unloaded, I'd probably take their word for it - right before I gave it back to them. I know nothing about how to handle firearms, how to open chambers, how to deal with a safety, which kind of firearm has them and which don't, or what they look like. I don't know what it feels like to pull a trigger, or how to properly hold a firearm that I don't plan on shooting.

I wouldn't ever be found at a shooting range. There are more firearms owned by Americans, than there are Americans who own firearms. Millions of Americans don't possess any firearms at all, and have no interest in them. Assuming that "everyone" knows that you have to open a gun to check for ammunition is a pretty horrible assumption. Especially since there are millions of us who have no idea how to even do that and are NOT interested in looking it up to satisfy your argument that we should know.

[frayedends]

To this day, if someone handed me a gun and told me it was unloaded, I'd probably take their word for it - right before I gave it back to them. I know nothing about how to handle firearms, how to open chambers, how to deal with a safety, which kind of firearm has them and which don't, or what they look like. I don't know what it feels like to pull a trigger, or how to properly hold a firearm that I don't plan on shooting.

I wouldn't ever be found at a shooting range. There are more firearms owned by Americans, than there are Americans who own firearms. Millions of Americans don't possess any firearms at all, and have no interest in them. Assuming that "everyone" knows that you have to open a gun to check for ammunition is a pretty horrible assumption. Especially since there are millions of us who have no idea how to even do that and are NOT interested in looking it up to satisfy your argument that we should know.

Baldwin is a firearms expert. Just ask him. Plus if it was your job to know, you would know.

[Kenswing]

Movie set! It would be a terrible mistake to expect actors on a set to check their guns for real bullets every time they pick up a weapon.

If Baldwin pointed a gun at someone outside of a movie set and it went off he like anyone else should be charged for some kind of crime depending on the circumstances.
I know we’ve argued this in the past so I’ll stop with this post. Firearm safety doesn’t stop at some imaginary line. If a person doesn’t understand firearm safety they shouldn’t be handling a firearm. If you need to train every actor, producer and production assistant on the set in the safe handling of a firearm so be it. The ultimate responsibility for firearm safety is the person holding the gun. Period.

[NoMoSno]

Movie set! It would be a terrible mistake to expect actors on a set to check their guns for real bullets every time they pick up a weapon.

Why would it be a terrible mistake?
I bet Baldwin will be checking from now on.

[LeRoySmith]

I know we’ve argued this in the past so I’ll stop with this post. Firearm safety doesn’t stop at some imaginary line. If a person doesn’t understand firearm safety they shouldn’t be handling a firearm. If you need to train every actor, producer and production assistant on the set in the safe handling of a firearm so be it. The ultimate responsibility for firearm safety is the person holding the gun. Period.

You are correct

[Stu from NYC]

Movie set! It would be a terrible mistake to expect actors on a set to check their guns for real bullets every time they pick up a weapon.



You are wrong. He Was holding a weapon and he pointed and pulled the trigger on this weapon without taking the trouble to check if it was loaded. Terrible and he should be jailed for it.

[Taltarzac725]

You are wrong. He Was holding a weapon and he pointed and pulled the trigger on this weapon without taking the trouble to check if it was loaded. Terrible and he should be jailed for it.

On a movie set!

[JMintzer]

Um….. what?!?! Martin was visiting relatives at the time of the shooting.Zimmerman became suspicious of Martin and called police; Zimmerman attacked Martin and then shot him with a pistol he was licensed to carry.

In a widely reported trial, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder for Martin's death, but acquitted by the jury after claiming self-defense, although Martin had no weapon.

I guess a 17 year old with skittles would seem very dangerous to an unstable person carrying a gun.

Incorrect nonsense. Zimmerman DID NOT attack anyone... NO where was that false information reported, nor did it come out during the trial...

[JMintzer]

Zimmerman has a history of violence, several times involving a firearm in his possession. He's been charged with assault and threatening multiple times over the years and has been set free every single time so far. Zimmerman is trash.

Those charges were dropped and are irrelevant to the current discussion...

[JMintzer]

It is not his job on a movie set to check the ammunition. And again he was told it was a "cold gun". This is very different from someone in their own home pointing a gun at a burglar. Or some kid thinking that his pistol was full of blanks while goofing off his house.

Strange reply to a statement that said one of that...

[JMintzer]

Movie set! It would be a terrible mistake to expect actors on a set to check their guns for real bullets every time they pick up a weapon.

If Baldwin pointed a gun at someone outside of a movie set and it went off he like anyone else should be charged for some kind of crime depending on the circumstances.

It "went off"... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

On a movie set!

The location doesn't matter...

[manaboutown]

On a movie set!

But not during a filming. It could have been in a dive bar or just about anywhere. Alec was carelessly playing with a loaded revolver. He aimed at and shot and killed that poor woman in cold blood.

[manaboutown]

Movie set! It would be a terrible mistake to expect actors on a set to check their guns for real bullets every time they pick up a weapon.

If Baldwin pointed a gun at someone outside of a movie set and it went off he like anyone else should be charged for some kind of crime depending on the circumstances.

And he was charged because he carelessly aimed a loaded revolver without checking it at a woman, pulled the trigger and shot her on his own hook. Most significantly a scene was not being shot! A judge who should have recused herself was looking for a technicality to let him walk and she got one.

[Stu from NYC]

On a movie set!

Why does it matter where he was at the time?

[ThirdOfFive]

Charges dismissed with prejudice: Judge ruled that the prosecution withheld evidence.

[Stu from NYC]

Charges dismissed with prejudice: Judge ruled that the prosecution withheld evidence.

Wonder if prosecution was paid off or just incompetent