Shallow Creek...bring a big wallet!

[TomSpasm]

A fellow Villager and I went to Shallow Creek today at 10:30 to play 18. He lives near Lopez ,I live near LSL (21 and 16 miles away), so we drove in a car. We paid $120 for the golf then asked where to pick up a cart. Was told a cart would be another $30. So $75 apiece...shocking!

The course is in nice shape, pretty wide open and overall pretty easy. But I won't be going back. We could have played Mission Inn El Campeon for $30 less...

[UpNorth]

$30 for a cart? Folks in The Villages think it is a great idea to play the "Championship" courses in their own cart. Makes all the green fees overpriced by $30. Developers laugh all the way to the bank.

[dewilson58]

:what::what:

Where in TV is a golf cart rental included??

:popcorn:

[Papa_lecki]

A fellow Villager and I went to Shallow Creek today at 10:30 to play 18. He lives near Lopez ,I live near LSL (21 and 16 miles away), so we drove in a car. We paid $120 for the golf then asked where to pick up a cart. Was told a cart would be another $30. So $75 apiece...shocking!

The course is in nice shape, pretty wide open and overall pretty easy. But I won't be going back. We could have played Mission Inn El Campeon for $30 less...

Greens fees are right in line with all the other course.
62.50 resident guest at most course
65.50 for Shallow creek

Cart is $14 for 18 holes

Seems reasonable

[BrianL99]

Greens fees are right in line with all the other course.
62.50 resident guest at most course
65.50 for Shallow creek

Cart is $14 for 18 holes

Seems reasonable


I belong to a private club up North. It's $28/person for a cart for 18 holes.

I don't know of anyplace, where it's less than about $20, other than courses that include carts in their Green Fees.

[Papa_lecki]

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[John Mayes]

A fellow Villager and I went to Shallow Creek today at 10:30 to play 18. He lives near Lopez ,I live near LSL (21 and 16 miles away), so we drove in a car. We paid $120 for the golf then asked where to pick up a cart. Was told a cart would be another $30. So $75 apiece...shocking!

The course is in nice shape, pretty wide open and overall pretty easy. But I won't be going back. We could have played Mission Inn El Campeon for $30 less...

Cart rental is the same cost at every championship course in The Villages…..$14.00 per seat for 18 holes. The prices for every championship course is on Golfthevillages.com.

Not sure why you would be surprised.

[John Mayes]

A fellow Villager and I went to Shallow Creek today at 10:30 to play 18. He lives near Lopez ,I live near LSL (21 and 16 miles away), so we drove in a car. We paid $120 for the golf then asked where to pick up a cart. Was told a cart would be another $30. So $75 apiece...shocking!

The course is in nice shape, pretty wide open and overall pretty easy. But I won't be going back. We could have played Mission Inn El Campeon for $30 less...

From golfthevillages.com;

https://www.golfthevillages.com/whatsnew/Summer2024Rates.pdf

[tophcfa]

A fellow Villager and I went to Shallow Creek today at 10:30 to play 18. He lives near Lopez ,I live near LSL (21 and 16 miles away), so we drove in a car. We paid $120 for the golf then asked where to pick up a cart. Was told a cart would be another $30. So $75 apiece...shocking!

$60 for a slow season mid summer rate is very high, especially without paying for a cart. Golfers at Shallow Creek and Southern Oaks are getting gouged because of supply and demand in the southern area. I can drive my golf cart about 3 minutes from our home and play 18 holes after 3 PM at Tierra Del Sol for $22 this time of the year. And the layout at Tierra blows away either of those two courses.

[Papa_lecki]

$60 for a slow season mid summer rate is very high, especially without paying for a cart. Golfers at Shallow Creek and Southern Oaks are getting gouged because of supply and demand in the southern area. I can drive my golf cart about 3 minutes from our home and play 18 holes after 3 PM at Tierra Del Sol for $22 this time of the year. And the layout at Tierra blows away either of those two courses.

You mean golfers in the southern end are getting gouged because they get to play the newest 36 holes?

[BrianL99]

And the layout at Tierra blows away either of those two courses.

It blows away any other golf course in TV or the general area ... by a wide margin.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

A fellow Villager and I went to Shallow Creek today at 10:30 to play 18. He lives near Lopez ,I live near LSL (21 and 16 miles away), so we drove in a car. We paid $120 for the golf then asked where to pick up a cart. Was told a cart would be another $30. So $75 apiece...shocking!

The course is in nice shape, pretty wide open and overall pretty easy. But I won't be going back. We could have played Mission Inn El Campeon for $30 less...

If you had CC membership and waited til the afternoon wave, and took your own golf cart, you could've saved a LOT more. It would've only cost you $37 each.

[BrianNotFromNYC]

I belong to a private club up North. It's $28/person for a cart for 18 holes.

I don't know of anyplace, where it's less than about $20, other than courses that include carts in their Green Fees.

An equivalent course near NYC is over 100, and outside that area, around 35 -50. And carts are never less than 25 for 18.

[tophcfa]

You mean golfers in the southern end are getting gouged because they get to play the newest 36 holes?

Don’t confuse new with better. Once the shine of being new wears off, quality and value rule.

[BrianL99]

Don’t confuse new with better. Once the shine of being new wears off, quality and value rule.

Palmer used to cost more than the other courses, but that changed.

Southern Oaks and Shallow Creek will probably be a premium price for the rest of our lives, as the Developer has apparently determined courses were over-built in the North and he's determined not to make that mistake in the South.

It's been how many years and how many courses in the Southern area?

[villager7591]

If it's too expensive FOR YOU, don't play there. Please don't bring the rest of us down with the complaining.

[dewilson58]

Palmer used to cost more than the other courses, but that changed.

The "more" was donated to Arnie's hospital.

[PoolBrews]

An equivalent course near NYC is over 100, and outside that area, around 35 -50. And carts are never less than 25 for 18.

Please stop comparing rates to rates back home. Depending on where you live, those rates are exorbitant compared to our area. Instead, look at the courses surrounding The Villages. You can play many of these (with a cart included), for far less than here in The Villages. Eagles Ridge has a great layout, and is in great shape every time I've been there. Rates are under $35 with cart during the slow season, but in the fall the rates only go up to $45 while The Villages goes up to $60+ - and that's with your own cart!

[Signguy]

Just outside the "Bubble" Sunday around 9:00 AM less than $50 per person with the cart, at the Del Webb courses up north, and at the Continental on 44. I'm sorry but the rates in the bubble are a bit high. You have to work 20 hours a week at minimum wage at a golf facility to get half off.

[paulajr]

You chose to not take your own cart…and didn’t do your due diligence before going. Why post here? The rates are clearly published on golfthevillages.


A fellow Villager and I went to Shallow Creek today at 10:30 to play 18. He lives near Lopez ,I live near LSL (21 and 16 miles away), so we drove in a car. We paid $120 for the golf then asked where to pick up a cart. Was told a cart would be another $30. So $75 apiece...shocking!

The course is in nice shape, pretty wide open and overall pretty easy. But I won't be going back. We could have played Mission Inn El Campeon for $30 less...

[UpNorth]

I've played all the available courses within a 40 mile radius of The Villages and with the exception of Baseline and Rolling Greens executive layouts, none of them charge extra for a cart. Booking online, all are far less expensive than any Villages championship course.

[LeRoySmith]

Please stop comparing rates to rates back home... and that's with your own cart!

Back home they would let us play for free if we promised to pull the weeds near where your ball landed. They'd also let you use your garden tractor as a cart for free as long as you left the mower deck running as you travel.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

My /guess/ as to why the higher extra charge for a cart here:
This is the only golf cart community among the bunch mentioned so far in this thread. There are people - whether we like to acknowledge it or not, who will take a cart out - and simply not return it. Or take it and assume they can use it all day, and use it to go to lunch in the squares, or go shopping, or stop home to shower before returning to the club for drinks.

They will do this, because they think they're entitled, that the rules don't apply to them. If you think that doesn't happen, think again. It happens. Weekly, if not daily.

To offset the cost of needing extra carts, to accommodate the entitlement of the few who take those carts for many hours after they've left the golf course, SOMEONE has to pay extra. Since the ONLY people who do this, are people who - take the golf carts and don't use their own, then they are the ones who will have to foot the bill.

If the charge for using their golf carts is unacceptable, don't use them. This is a golf cart community. It's assumed either you or the person you're golfing with (or each of you) has your own golf cart. The country clubs are available for non-residents, who can't bring their own golf cart. That means they have that cart until they return it. So if they're going to pay for it, they might as well take it off the course and go to the squares for lunch. Or stop at CVS to pick up their husband's prescription. Or visit a friend who lives here. Etc. etc.

They're not supposed to - but they do. And so, the charge.

[Two Bills]

You chose to not take your own cart…and didn’t do your due diligence before going. Why post here? The rates are clearly published on golfthevillages.

I think distance was a major factor in not taking own carts

[Bogie Shooter]

My /guess/ as to why the higher extra charge for a cart here:
This is the only golf cart community among the bunch mentioned so far in this thread. There are people - whether we like to acknowledge it or not, who will take a cart out - and simply not return it. Or take it and assume they can use it all day, and use it to go to lunch in the squares, or go shopping, or stop home to shower before returning to the club for drinks.

They will do this, because they think they're entitled, that the rules don't apply to them. If you think that doesn't happen, think again. It happens. Weekly, if not daily.

To offset the cost of needing extra carts, to accommodate the entitlement of the few who take those carts for many hours after they've left the golf course, SOMEONE has to pay extra. Since the ONLY people who do this, are people who - take the golf carts and don't use their own, then they are the ones who will have to foot the bill.

If the charge for using their golf carts is unacceptable, don't use them. This is a golf cart community. It's assumed either you or the person you're golfing with (or each of you) has your own golf cart. The country clubs are available for non-residents, who can't bring their own golf cart. That means they have that cart until they return it. So if they're going to pay for it, they might as well take it off the course and go to the squares for lunch. Or stop at CVS to pick up their husband's prescription. Or visit a friend who lives here. Etc. etc.

They're not supposed to - but they do. And so, the charge.

Wow! Is this a major problem? In twenty years never heard of this before…… not even on the grape vine.

[dewilson58]

My /guess/ as to why the higher extra charge for a cart here:
This is the only golf cart community among the bunch mentioned so far in this thread. There are people - whether we like to acknowledge it or not, who will take a cart out - and simply not return it. Or take it and assume they can use it all day, and use it to go to lunch in the squares, or go shopping, or stop home to shower before returning to the club for drinks.

Wow...............how did you determine this is wide-spread enough (not jus a friend or two) to cause an imbedded surcharge in the rental rates??

[Lottoguy]

There is no SHADE anywhere on the courses south of 44. Sorry no thanks!

[Lottoguy]

I guess you have not seen Glenview CC then? By far the best looking and well kept course in TV.

[dewilson58]

There is no SHADE anywhere on the courses south of 44. Sorry not thanks!

:shocked:
Have you played down there???
Southern Oaks has shade (to name one).

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Wow...............how did you determine this is wide-spread enough (not jus a friend or two) to cause an imbedded surcharge in the rental rates??

So the phrase "I /guess/" just kinda slipped past you didn't it?

I didn't "determine" anything. I guessed. Words have meanings.

And no I didn't guess based on a friend or two. None of my friends play golf. My neighbors all have their own golf carts and I live in walking distance to the nearest country club. I see the CC rental carts come down here, I've seen a few of them at Spanish Springs in the parking lots. I've seen people drive them off the CC course at Mallory Hill and drive up Odell, I saw one on the MMP near Brownwood. I've seen golfers using the rental carts to drive to the pool, from the course at Lopez, and park their golf cart there while they have pool-side lunch. That holds up that cart, making it unavailable for the cart guys to clean (and gas up, if necessary) for the next renter.

Considering that I see at least one every week somewhere OTHER than the country club golf course - I GUESSED that this might be the reason why rental fees are high here.

[dewilson58]

So the phrase "I /guess/" just kinda slipped past you didn't it?

I didn't "determine" anything. I guessed. Words have meanings.

And no I didn't guess based on a friend or two. None of my friends play golf. My neighbors all have their own golf carts and I live in walking distance to the nearest country club. I see the CC rental carts come down here, I've seen a few of them at Spanish Springs in the parking lots. I've seen people drive them off the CC course at Mallory Hill and drive up Odell, I saw one on the MMP near Brownwood. I've seen golfers using the rental carts to drive to the pool, from the course at Lopez, and park their golf cart there while they have pool-side lunch. That holds up that cart, making it unavailable for the cart guys to clean (and gas up, if necessary) for the next renter.

Considering that I see at least one every week somewhere OTHER than the country club golf course - I GUESSED that this might be the reason why rental fees are high here.

Got it.

Jus never seen it and surprised at your frequency.

[Papa_lecki]

:shocked:
Have you played down there???
Southern Oaks has shade (to name one).

The course is literally named after a shade tree.

[Tamerack]

A fellow Villager and I went to Shallow Creek today at 10:30 to play 18. He lives near Lopez ,I live near LSL (21 and 16 miles away), so we drove in a car. We paid $120 for the golf then asked where to pick up a cart. Was told a cart would be another $30. So $75 apiece...shocking!

The course is in nice shape, pretty wide open and overall pretty easy. But I won't be going back. We could have played Mission Inn El Campeon for $30 less...
I wonder if anyone has played the course at Royal Highlands in Leesburg and if so what are comparisons???

[gighilton]

Guys,
$15 per person for 18 hole cart is pretty inexpensive. Most courses out of the Villages are 22 to 28 per person..Now the Greens fee for this time of year is a little much... but its new!

[Papa_lecki]

It is hard to compare the cost structure at different golf courses (i.e. in the bubble vs out the bubble).
For example, have 27 holes ready to first tee at 7:30AM vs 9 holes is very different.
You need 3 times the staff to place pins first thing; you need 3X the capital investment in mowers, etc
Even the staff in the pro shop, you need more to check people in during the wave. It’s not like you can ask people to come in at 7, leave then come back in.

[TomSpasm]

:what::what:

Where in TV is a golf cart rental included??

:popcorn:

When I went to Southern Oaks when it first opened, they provided carts for free if you had a Villages ID. I don't know if/when they stopped that, but it was my presumption that as a Villager, I would not pay for a cart. Silly me!

[TomSpasm]

Greens fees are right in line with all the other course.
62.50 resident guest at most course
65.50 for Shallow creek

Cart is $14 for 18 holes

Seems reasonable

We are Village residents, not guests.

[TomSpasm]

Cart rental is the same cost at every championship course in The Villages…..$14.00 per seat for 18 holes. The prices for every championship course is on Golfthevillages.com.

Not sure why you would be surprised.

Because when Southern Oaks opened, they provided carts for free if you were a Villager. I don't know if/when that policy changed.

[Snakster66]

$75 per person? It costs me more than that to play a middling public course in my stretch of PA. The good ones (Wyncote, Glen Mills, Broad Run) cost me $120. I dream of the day I can finally move down there and start thinking of $75 being expensive for golf.

[Papa_lecki]

Because when Southern Oaks opened, they provided carts for free if you were a Villager. I don't know if/when that policy changed.

That’s because the bridge wasn’t open over the TP - you couldn’t get a golf cart to SO

[Papa_lecki]

We are Village residents, not guests.

Then you overpaid.
Resident Member is $54 at shallow creek and 51.50 at most other courses.

[justjim]

If you had CC membership and waited til the afternoon wave, and took your own golf cart, you could've saved a LOT more. It would've only cost you $37 each.

“Took your golf cart”. Just a few want to ride that far in a golf cart.

[dewilson58]

When I went to Southern Oaks when it first opened, they provided carts for free if you had a Villages ID. I don't know if/when they stopped that, but it was my presumption that as a Villager, I would not pay for a cart. Silly me!

There was no bridge to get your cart to the course.

When the bridge opened, the free-bees ended...........years ago.

Wow.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We are Village residents, not guests.

You are not MEMBERS of the Country Club. That makes you a "resident guest" and you pay "Resident Guest" fees. If you were a member of the Country Club (which is an additional fee, since the Country Clubs are -not- amenities), you would've paid less.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Then you overpaid.
Resident Member is $54 at shallow creek and 51.50 at most other courses.

He doesn't have CC Priority Membership. He paid the "Resident Guest" fee.

[John Mayes]

You are not MEMBERS of the Country Club. That makes you a "resident guest" and you pay "Resident Guest" fees. If you were a member of the Country Club (which is an additional fee, since the Country Clubs are -not- amenities), you would've paid less.

Village residents pay the “resident member” amount not the “resident guest” amount. Resident guest is someone that lives outside the tri-county area that is a guest of a villager.

https://www.golfthevillages.com/whatsnew/Summer2024Rates.pdf

[justjim]

I wonder if anyone has played the course at Royal Highlands in Leesburg and if so what are comparisons???

I’ve played the Monarch @ Royal Highlands several times. The course is on US 27 about six miles south of Leesburg. I like the course and it’s always been in excellent condition. It’s challenging but relative short (6010 yards black tees and 5520 white tees and 4800 forward tees) Just right for an aging senior! As I remember, with cart, $45 in season and half price in summer. It’s been two years since playing so prices can change.

[Bogie Shooter]

Village residents pay the “resident member” amount not the “resident guest” amount. Resident guest is someone that lives outside the tri-county area that is a guest of a villager.

https://www.golfthevillages.com/whatsnew/Summer2024Rates.pdf

I don’t understand why this is so difficult to understand? Maybe for someone that doesn’t golf?
To add…..no one is a country club member.

[Papa_lecki]

He doesn't have CC Priority Membership. He paid the "Resident Guest" fee.

There’s “Enhancement Member” and “Resident Member”.
If you have a green ID card, you are one of those two.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Popsicle headache

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

A fellow Villager and I went to Shallow Creek today at 10:30 to play 18. He lives near Lopez ,I live near LSL (21 and 16 miles away), so we drove in a car. We paid $120 for the golf then asked where to pick up a cart. Was told a cart would be another $30. So $75 apiece...shocking!


We are Village residents, not guests.

Then you overpaid.
Resident Member is $54 at shallow creek and 51.50 at most other courses.

He doesn't have CC Priority Membership. He paid the "Resident Guest" fee.

There’s “Enhancement Member” and “Resident Member”.
If you have a green ID card, you are one of those two.

So - I was incorrect about the terminology. I was also incorrect about which fee he was charged. He and his friend were charged the "Enhancement Guest/Middletown Member" fee of $59.00 each (which comes to $118 total, round up to the $120 he claims they paid), plus the golf cart fee.

Why was he charged that? No idea. It was up to the OP to check. It was his responsibility to speak up and say "Hey - I am being overcharged, I'm a Villages Resident, this is my ID, and I should've been charged $54.50 as a "Resident Member" instead of the $59.00.

He might have done that and just not mentioned it in this thread. Or he might have not done that.

Regardless, he was not charged as a Resident Member.

[Pairadocs]

$30 for a cart? Folks in The Villages think it is a great idea to play the "Championship" courses in their own cart. Makes all the green fees overpriced by $30. Developers laugh all the way to the bank.

Guess it's just illustrative of the old "all the traffic will bare ?" The only time things (might ?) change is if the "traffic" slows so drastically that it hits the old profit bottom line; then (perhaps) the prices will drop to increase the customer base ?

[Rainger99]

There are five different prices for every course.

EM = Enhancement Member
RM = Resident Member
EG/MM = Enhancement Guest / Middleton Member
RG = Resident Guest
NR = Non-Resident

The price for Shallow Creek is

EM = Enhancement Member $44.50
RM = Resident Member $54.50
EG/MM = Enhancement Guest / Middleton Member $59.00
RG = Resident Guest $65.50
NR = Non-Resident $68.50

The prices do not include sales tax.

[golfing eagles]

There are five different prices for every course.

EM = Enhancement Member
RM = Resident Member
EG/MM = Enhancement Guest / Middleton Member
RG = Resident Guest
NR = Non-Resident

The price for Shallow Creek is

EM = Enhancement Member $44.50
RM = Resident Member $54.50
EG/MM = Enhancement Guest / Middleton Member $59.00
RG = Resident Guest $65.50
NR = Non-Resident $68.50

The prices do not include sales tax.

Once again, I implore you---stop confusing people with the facts

[kcrazorbackfan]

You chose to not take your own cart…and didn’t do your due diligence before going. Why post here? The rates are clearly published on golfthevillages.

Because the OP wants to show everyone what an idiot he is for not checking prices out before going.

If he doesn’t want to play there anymore, who cares besides him and the other whiners. It’ll just open spots for us that like playing there.

[kcrazorbackfan]

When I went to Southern Oaks when it first opened, they provided carts for free if you had a Villages ID. I don't know if/when they stopped that, but it was my presumption that as a Villager, I would not pay for a cart. Silly me!

It was free for residents that lived north of 44 due to the inability to get across 44 with a cart at the time.

[Marathon Man]

$60 for a slow season mid summer rate is very high, especially without paying for a cart. Golfers at Shallow Creek and Southern Oaks are getting gouged because of supply and demand in the southern area. I can drive my golf cart about 3 minutes from our home and play 18 holes after 3 PM at Tierra Del Sol for $22 this time of the year. And the layout at Tierra blows away either of those two courses.

You are comparing the evening rate at Tierra Del Sol to the morning rate at Shallow creek. The evening rate at SC is $25 ($3 higher).

So much for being gouged.

[golfing eagles]

Because the OP wants to show everyone what an idiot he is for not checking prices out before going.

If he doesn’t want to play there anymore, who cares besides him and the other whiners. It’ll just open spots for us that like playing there.

You should apologize to the OP for calling him an idiot.

It was wrong of you to point it out :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[BrianL99]

So the phrase "I /guess/" just kinda slipped past you didn't it?

I didn't "determine" anything. I guessed.

None of my friends play golf.

I GUESSED that this might be the reason why rental fees are high here.

So - I was incorrect about the terminology.

I was also incorrect about which fee he was charged.

Why was he charged that? No idea. I


He might have done that and just not mentioned it in this thread. Or he might have not done that.



I guess there are sometimes a lot of facts to sort through.

[westernrider75]

So the phrase "I /guess/" just kinda slipped past you didn't it?

I didn't "determine" anything. I guessed. Words have meanings.

And no I didn't guess based on a friend or two. None of my friends play golf. My neighbors all have their own golf carts and I live in walking distance to the nearest country club. I see the CC rental carts come down here, I've seen a few of them at Spanish Springs in the parking lots. I've seen people drive them off the CC course at Mallory Hill and drive up Odell, I saw one on the MMP near Brownwood. I've seen golfers using the rental carts to drive to the pool, from the course at Lopez, and park their golf cart there while they have pool-side lunch. That holds up that cart, making it unavailable for the cart guys to clean (and gas up, if necessary) for the next renter.

Considering that I see at least one every week somewhere OTHER than the country club golf course - I GUESSED that this might be the reason why rental fees are high here.

It’s possible some of those carts you are seeing, and assuming are from the golf course, are actually loaners or rentals from Villages Golf Cars. They look identical.

[Janie123]

You are not MEMBERS of the Country Club. That makes you a "resident guest" and you pay "Resident Guest" fees. If you were a member of the Country Club (which is an additional fee, since the Country Clubs are -not- amenities), you would've paid less.
Wrong… having a villages ID means Resident member, paying extra for a membership is Enhanced membership. Being a guest (guest ID) is a Resident Guest. Morning wave at Shallow Creek and Southern Oaks is $54.40 plus tax for a RM… approx $60. EM is $44.50 plus tax.

I play a muni in Colorado and the rates are $88 on the weekend rain or shine or show or sleet or hail… 12 months out of the year. TV is a bargain. Plus you can bring your own adult and non adultbeverages… where else in the country can you do that???

[golfing eagles]

Wrong… having a villages ID means Resident member, paying extra for a membership is Enhanced membership. Being a guest (guest ID) is a Resident Guest. Morning wave at Shallow Creek and Southern Oaks is $54.40 plus tax for a RM… approx $60. EM is $44.50 plus tax.

I play a muni in Colorado and the rates are $88 on the weekend rain or shine or show or sleet or hail… 12 months out of the year. TV is a bargain. Plus you can bring your own adult and non adult beverages… where else in the country can you do that???

Everywhere. Just don't get caught.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Everywhere. Just don't get caught.

I think the posters CO example didn’t account for the ‘fatty’ you can ‘consume’ on the links in the Centennial State! :1rotfl:

[Packer Fan]

I don’t understand why this is so difficult to understand? Maybe for someone that doesn’t golf?
To add…..no one is a country club member.

Did you not look at the PDF.... resident MEMBER. If you own a home in TV you are a resident MEMBER. Heck, enjoy it. I know people who belong to a lot of country clubs up north and they are all different - there is not like a specific definition or anything....
My sister in law is a bit Jealous, so lets all enjoy that :):loco:

[Bogie Shooter]

Did you not look at the PDF.... resident MEMBER. If you own a home in TV you are a resident MEMBER. Heck, enjoy it. I know people who belong to a lot of country clubs up north and they are all different - there is not like a specific definition or anything....
My sister in law is a bit Jealous, so lets all enjoy that :):loco:
Not sure where you think I went astray?

[MrChip72]

A fellow Villager and I went to Shallow Creek today at 10:30 to play 18. He lives near Lopez ,I live near LSL (21 and 16 miles away), so we drove in a car. We paid $120 for the golf then asked where to pick up a cart. Was told a cart would be another $30. So $75 apiece...shocking!

The course is in nice shape, pretty wide open and overall pretty easy. But I won't be going back. We could have played Mission Inn El Campeon for $30 less...

If someone is willing to drive 40 mins from LSL to Mission Inn, than they might as well have just drove their cart from LSL to Shallow Creek as that's roughly the same amount of time, plus saving the hassle of not transporting clubs in and out of the trunk of the car twice.

[Accidental1]

When I went to Southern Oaks when it first opened, they provided carts for free if you had a Villages ID. I don't know if/when they stopped that, but it was my presumption that as a Villager, I would not pay for a cart. Silly me!

Because when Southern Oaks opened, they provided carts for free if you were a Villager. I don't know if/when that policy changed.

That’s because the bridge wasn’t open over the TP - you couldn’t get a golf cart to SO

There was no bridge to get your cart to the course.

When the bridge opened, the free-bees ended...........years ago.

Wow.

Chitty Chatty bridge opened late 2020 and Water Lilly early 2021. SO opened late 2021 so golf cart access to the course was never an issue. However, they did offer free carts at the executive courses south of the turnpike until the Water Lilly bridge opened (and perhaps they still do?).

[UpNorth]

If someone is willing to drive 40 mins from LSL to Mission Inn, than they might as well have just drove their cart from LSL to Shallow Creek as that's roughly the same amount of time, plus saving the hassle of not transporting clubs in and out of the trunk of the car twice.

Then again, you could be playing El Campion rather than Shallow Creek.....
And not having to use your own cart.

[MrChip72]

However, they did offer free carts at the executive courses south of the turnpike until the Water Lilly bridge opened (and perhaps they still do?).

Definitely not free as long as I've been here (2+ years). I'm 2 mins from the Water Lily bridge.

[MrChip72]

Then again, you could be playing El Campion rather than Shallow Creek.....
And not having to use your own cart.

Do some people actually prefer to use a golf course cart over their own? I prefer the comfort, speed and convenience of using my own cart.

[BrianL99]

Do some people actually prefer to use a golf course cart over their own? I prefer the comfort, speed and convenience of using my own cart.

If the choice is to play a course like El Campeon instead of a TV course?

It's easily worth the hassle to use the clubs carts.

Comparing TV golf courses to El Campeon, is like comparing a McD's 1/4 pounder, to a NY Sirloin.

[MSchad]

Chitty Chatty bridge opened late 2020 and Water Lilly early 2021. SO opened late 2021 so golf cart access to the course was never an issue. However, they did offer free carts at the executive courses south of the turnpike until the Water Lilly bridge opened (and perhaps they still do?).

Slight correction/clearification to above; Executives south of turnpike never offered free golf carts. There was a reduced price on rental carts just like every where in the villages at that time, but never free. The free carts were only on the championship courses for people living south of turnpike which went away when connectivity was established.

[UpNorth]

Do some people actually prefer to use a golf course cart over their own? I prefer the comfort, speed and convenience of using my own cart.

TV loves it when they don't need the expense of providing you with an included cart with your greens fees. At the rates they charge compared to area courses, they should give you a discount if you bring your own cart.

[paulajr]

There’s “Enhancement Member” and “Resident Member”.
If you have a green ID card, you are one of those two.

Or…a Blue ID card. You don’t have to be on the deed to be a resident.

[Rwirish]

Welcome to south of 44. Overpriced and too few golf courses and that includes Executive Courses. AndPitch and Putt courses don’t count.

[Marathon Man]

Welcome to south of 44. Overpriced and too few golf courses and that includes Executive Courses. AndPitch and Putt courses don’t count.

I don't agree. We rarely fail to get a tee time. And, unlike in the north, the courses are all in good condition.

More courses are months away from opening. I wonder what people who make the "lack of golf" claim will move on to.

[dewilson58]

Welcome to south of 44. Overpriced and too few golf courses and that includes Executive Courses. AndPitch and Putt courses don’t count.

Probably non-golfers think there are too many courses South of 44.

[mlmarr]

:what::what:

Where in TV is a golf cart rental included??

:popcorn:
back a few years when the south end was just starting, no homes just golf carts were free.. once homes come in and more people moved there.. tough luck now they are $15..

[dewilson58]

back a few years when the south end was just starting, no homes just golf carts were free.. once homes come in and more people moved there.. tough luck now they are $15..

I know.
We know.
We all know except the OP.

The question was for the OP who was surprised the carts were not free.

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

[daveandsandy]

We played Los Colinas for $41 yesterday. Great shape. EC just went through a complete irrigation replacement. It wasn’t its best. Going to take some time.

[gcunnin]

My wife and I played this on Sunday, the course was in very good condition except for the hundreds of divots in the fairways. I find it very sad that a brand new course has been so abused. It takes only a few seconds to repair the damage you just caused, so why don't you? And no it is not someone else's job it's our job to try and repair any damage we have done.