Always drive your car defensively.....

[MsPCGenius]

Made a right turn out of the main entrance of Richmond -- heading South on Meggison Rd. Immediately coming out of the round-about I was staring down a car coming North on the inside lane of the two Southbound lanes!! Don't know how long she (who appeared to have paper directions in hand) had driven down the wrong side of the road, but fortunately she was getting ready to enter the round-about I just exited and, hopefully, exited on the proper side.

The moral of this story -- Alway drive defensively as you never know what you will encounter :)

[fdpaq0580]

Every day I see crazy, and/or stupid people on the roads. People still have no clue how to use the roundabouts.

[Bogie Shooter]

Oh no, please, we do not need another 150 post roundabout thread.

[VApeople]

My 2003 Acura has a wonderful feature - I can have both of my hands on the steering wheel and my right thumb can also be on the horn.

Any time I drive thru a shopping center like Lake Deaton or thru a roundabout, I always have my thumb on the horn so I can honk at other drivers if they do something stupid.

[Stu from NYC]

This morning encountered someone who had no clue who has the right of way. Luckily he stopped when I honked my horn or it would not have ended well.

[Rainger99]

Any time I drive thru a shopping center like Lake Deaton or thru a roundabout, I always have my thumb on the horn so I can honk at other drivers if they do something stupid.


I reckon you honk a lot.

[fdpaq0580]

Oh no, please, we do not need another 150 post roundabout thread.

Oh! Come on. We can easily get past 150! That is, if you're willing to help out.

[fdpaq0580]

I reckon you honk a lot.

You know what they say. Use it or lose it!

[Stu from NYC]

I reckon you honk a lot.

Amazing how often one must wake up other drivers around here

[retiredguy123]

I reckon you honk a lot.
Americans are rank amateurs at honking. Just travel to most other countries and you will find out that drivers honk at least 100 times as much as Americans do. In Saudi Arabia, when you came to an intersection, the first one to honk had the right-of-way.

[Jim 9922]

Oh no, please, we do not need another 150 post roundabout thread.

Looks like you just added to it.

[MsPCGenius]

People, people... you missed my point. May have nothing to do with round-about behavior, just some poor soul who took a wrong turn somewhere and was very much at risk of causing herself and others harm. Always drive defensively!!!

[fdpaq0580]

If you could do one thing to make roundabouts work better, what would you do and why.
I might suggest speed bumps at the entrance to force those aggressive jerks to slow down instead of speeding up to see if they can intimidate the drivers coming around.
Another would be to put speed cameras that issue tickets to vehicles exceeding the suggested 20 mph.
What would you suggest?
👮*♂️👮*♀️👮

[Stu from NYC]

Americans are rank amateurs at honking. Just travel to most other countries and you will find out that drivers honk at least 100 times as much as Americans do. In Saudi Arabia, when you came to an intersection, the first one to honk had the right-of-way.

Thank you. We are better than those Saudis. Will put this into effect immediately

[Rainger99]

Made a right turn out of the main entrance of Richmond -- heading South on Meggison Rd. Immediately coming out of the round-about I was staring down a car coming North on the inside lane of the two Southbound lanes!! Don't know how long she (who appeared to have paper directions in hand) had driven down the wrong side of the road, but fortunately she was getting ready to enter the round-about I just exited and, hopefully, exited on the proper side.

The moral of this story -- Alway drive defensively as you never know what you will encounter :)

So she was north bound on Meggison in the south bound lanes?? Or was she going clockwise in the roundabout?

Is the main entrance at Richmond pitch and putt or is it the one farther north near Brownwood?

I am trying to figure out this could happen. It would take an effort for a car to go north in the south bound lanes.

[MrFlorida]

I've seen cars driving on the multi modal trail, so nothing surprises me anymore.

[Stu from NYC]

I am trying to figure out this could happen. It would take an effort for a car to go north in the south bound lanes.

Have seen cars do this more than once

[Ele201]

These round-abouts are dangerous and I’m surprised there aren’t more accidents. There are some people driving around who just aren’t familiar with them or how to navigate them. And btw, for the so-called off season that we’re now in, The Villages seems quite crowded.

[Skunky1]

The horn means “I see you and I will watch out for you”.

[golfing eagles]

If you could do one thing to make roundabouts work better, what would you do and why.
I might suggest speed bumps at the entrance to force those aggressive jerks to slow down instead of speeding up to see if they can intimidate the drivers coming around.
Another would be to put speed cameras that issue tickets to vehicles exceeding the suggested 20 mph.
What would you suggest?
👮*♂️👮*♀️👮

NEITHER

Speed bumps would effectively change the yield sign to a stop sign and totally disrupt traffic flow at every roundabout. Bad idea.

Speed cameras in an RB? Very low yield. Ever try to take an RB at over 20 in an SUV? Good luck. Maybe you'd catch a few cowboys in a high performance sports car, but that's it. Better off monitoring the straightaways for those going 55+ on BV and Morse. Of course, the 35 speed limit on those roads is ridiculous in the first place---traffic is slowed down by all the RBs anyway. I suspect the only reason for setting it at 35 was to allow idiots in their idiotic "street legal" golf carts on the road to play Russian Roulette.

[FredMitchell]

If you could do one thing to make roundabouts work better, what would you do and why.
I might suggest speed bumps at the entrance to force those aggressive jerks to slow down instead of speeding up to see if they can intimidate the drivers coming around.
Another would be to put speed cameras that issue tickets to vehicles exceeding the suggested 20 mph.
What would you suggest?
👮*♂️👮*♀️👮
That you move elsewhere.

[jim@jedward.com]

Latest idiot driving move in The Villages…. Driving east on SR 44 then turning right (south) onto Meggison…. Then STOPPING IN THE MERGE LANE!!!

Let me ask you geniuses who do this a question…. Do you also stop in the middle of the merge lane when entering the turnpike? Sheesh.

[Ignatz]

Latest idiot driving move in The Villages…. Driving east on SR 44 then turning right (south) onto Meggison…. Then STOPPING IN THE MERGE LANE!!!

Let me ask you geniuses who do this a question…. Do you also stop in the middle of the merge lane when entering the turnpike? Sheesh.

I’d bet the ranch that the next person to do that wouldn’t be the FIRST. 👍🏻

[Bill14564]

Latest idiot driving move in The Villages…. Driving east on SR 44 then turning right (south) onto Meggison…. Then STOPPING IN THE MERGE LANE!!!

Let me ask you geniuses who do this a question…. Do you also stop in the middle of the merge lane when entering the turnpike? Sheesh.

There is a merge lane on Meggison?

[mdmurrell]

My experience with other drivers in TV is that many are kind and considerate. However, there are many who drive recklessly over the speed limit often times playing with their phones. We can use available technology to rein in bad drivers and hit them financially enough to hurt. Food for thought.

[golfing eagles]

Latest idiot driving move in The Villages…. Driving east on SR 44 then turning right (south) onto Meggison…. Then STOPPING IN THE MERGE LANE!!!

Let me ask you geniuses who do this a question…. Do you also stop in the middle of the merge lane when entering the turnpike? Sheesh.

Sad, but I've seen that as well.

[huge-pigeons]

If you could do one thing to make roundabouts work better, what would you do and why.
I might suggest speed bumps at the entrance to force those aggressive jerks to slow down instead of speeding up to see if they can intimidate the drivers coming around.
Another would be to put speed cameras that issue tickets to vehicles exceeding the suggested 20 mph.
What would you suggest?
👮*♂️👮*♀️👮

Make it mandatory that everyone take a class on how to drive.
2nd, a camera for going over the “suggested” 20mph? WHAT? You can take these roundabouts faster up to the speed limit. How about fining people that stop at each roundabout when no cars are coming? There is no stop sign at the roundabout. 99% of the roundabouts you can see if anybody is in the roundabout way before you get to it, so if nobody is coming, keep driving.
3rd, fining people that go 5mph thru the roundabout instead of the 20mph “suggested” limit?

[Rocksnap]

Made a right turn out of the main entrance of Richmond -- heading South on Meggison Rd. Immediately coming out of the round-about I was staring down a car coming North on the inside lane of the two Southbound lanes!! Don't know how long she (who appeared to have paper directions in hand) had driven down the wrong side of the road, but fortunately she was getting ready to enter the round-about I just exited and, hopefully, exited on the proper side.

The moral of this story -- Alway drive defensively as you never know what you will encounter :)

Yup, another useless post. And I can’t get this time back.

[westernrider75]

Where is there a merge lane at Meggison?

[Two Bills]

Americans are rank amateurs at honking. Just travel to most other countries and you will find out that drivers honk at least 100 times as much as Americans do. In Saudi Arabia, when you came to an intersection, the first one to honk had the right-of-way.

You reckon Saudis are bad in cars, you should hear the language when they are on their camels!

[Two Bills]

Yup, another useless post. And I can’t get this time back.

..............yet you read it, and lost more lifetime replying! :shrug:

[ThirdOfFive]

Made a right turn out of the main entrance of Richmond -- heading South on Meggison Rd. Immediately coming out of the round-about I was staring down a car coming North on the inside lane of the two Southbound lanes!! Don't know how long she (who appeared to have paper directions in hand) had driven down the wrong side of the road, but fortunately she was getting ready to enter the round-about I just exited and, hopefully, exited on the proper side.

The moral of this story -- Alway drive defensively as you never know what you will encounter :)
Good advice, and not just for TV.

Drive here long enough and you see some really strange sights on the roads and streets. Guy backing up in a roundabout so he could take the exit he just missed...some cowboy taking using the ditch as a passing lane on El Camino Real so he could pass a car in the right lane that apparently wasn't going fast enough for him...Guy in a golf cart going about 5 mph with a white blind cane strapped to the back...somebody using up FOUR parking spots at Publix...numerous instances of people blowing stop signs and red lights...

Moral of the story: know what is going on not only in front of you but in the back and on both sides at all times. Being right in TV is go guarantee of staying safe.

[maggie1]

If you could do one thing to make roundabouts work better, what would you do and why.
I might suggest speed bumps at the entrance to force those aggressive jerks to slow down instead of speeding up to see if they can intimidate the drivers coming around.
Another would be to put speed cameras that issue tickets to vehicles exceeding the suggested 20 mph.
What would you suggest?
👮*♂️👮*♀️👮

Unfortunately, violations of a "suggested" speed can't be enforced.

[sully1]

Talk about right of way, I and a police officer came to a 4 way stop at the same time. We both took off at the same time and the patrol officer hit her brakes. You guessed lt, I got pulled over and I told her I had the right of way because I was on the right. She said she never heard that before. Am I wrong? That’s the way I was taught and I’m 75. No ticket!

[Bill14564]

Talk about right of way, I and a police officer came to a 4 way stop at the same time. We both took off at the same time and the patrol officer hit her brakes. You guessed lt, I got pulled over and I told her I had the right of way because I was on the right. She said she never heard that before. Am I wrong? That’s the way I was taught and I’m 75. No ticket!

Way too easy to find...

Florida Statute 316.123(2)(b): At a four-way stop intersection, the driver of the first vehicle to stop at the intersection shall be the first to proceed. If two or more vehicles reach the four-way stop intersection at the same time, the driver of the vehicle on the left shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on the right.

[DONNIEBRONX]

What dribble

[mntlblok]

Americans are rank amateurs at honking. Just travel to most other countries and you will find out that drivers honk at least 100 times as much as Americans do. In Saudi Arabia, when you came to an intersection, the first one to honk had the right-of-way.
Reminds me of the trip in a rented RV from Rome up to the Alps. Decided to tour Rome just before returning the RV. The apparent chaos actually gradually began to make some sense. Three lanes can be much more efficiently utilized if they're treated as being more like five. :-) Lots of the extra use was via motorbike. Maybe the most interesting aspect was the horn use. Got the distinct impression that a toot on a horn most likely meant "you go ahead". It was definitely "different".

The oddity that I never figured out was on the Italian version of the Autobahn , with me doing a dutifully relatively slow rate of speed in the right lane, each and every passing car - and some were *very* much faster - made it a point to pull into my right lane as closely as possible to my left front fender. What's up with that? Over all, upon returning the rented RV prior to hopping the cruise ship, I concluded that it had *not* been an adventure that I'd choose to repeat. Did not see any road signs in Switzerland written in English, making me give up on riding by the LHC. Did see that leaning tower of Galileo fame. Oh, and Switzerland has a *lot* of tunnels.

Not a fan of hearing the horns at the traffic circles. Fine if they help avoid a collision, but they can be discombobulating and confusing for others in the area that are not involved and can't tell whether they *should* know what the noise is about - especially when well aware there there's no shortage of idiots about who only *think* they have a valid reason for blowing it.

Would also opine that more threads on traffic circles is likely a *good* thing. They seem to always "out" several folks who have things exactly backwards. Possibly not the ideal means of education, but those folks were never going to "take the course", anyway. Wait. I guess the "course" is more about golf carts. Conflating things seems to have become my superpower. :-( Anyway, the video done by the local police officer on carts (I think) was most satisfactory, succinctly covering all the info that would be in the course. Dang. Can't locate that video. Anybody else?

[mntlblok]

..............yet you read it, and lost more lifetime replying! :shrug:

:laugh:

[Stu from NYC]

Make it mandatory that everyone take a class on how to drive.
2nd, a camera for going over the “suggested” 20mph? WHAT? You can take these roundabouts faster up to the speed limit. How about fining people that stop at each roundabout when no cars are coming? There is no stop sign at the roundabout. 99% of the roundabouts you can see if anybody is in the roundabout way before you get to it, so if nobody is coming, keep driving.
3rd, fining people that go 5mph thru the roundabout instead of the 20mph “suggested” limit?

Wish I had a buck for everytime we have seen a driver stop going into a roundabout without a car to be seen.

[Stu from NYC]

Reminds me of the trip in a rented RV from Rome up to the Alps. Decided to tour Rome just before returning the RV. The apparent chaos actually gradually began to make some sense. Three lanes can be much more efficiently utilized if they're treated as being more like five. :-) Lots of the extra use was via motorbike. Maybe the most interesting aspect was the horn use. Got the distinct impression that a toot on a horn most likely meant "you go ahead". It was definitely "different".

The oddity that I never figured out was on the Italian version of the Autobahn , with me doing a dutifully relatively slow rate of speed in the right lane, each and every passing car - and some were *very* much faster - made it a point to pull into my right lane as closely as possible to my left front fender. What's up with that? Over all, upon returning the rented RV prior to hopping the cruise ship, I concluded that it had *not* been an adventure that I'd choose to repeat. Did not see any road signs in Switzerland written in English, making me give up on riding by the LHC. Did see that leaning tower of Galileo fame. Oh, and Switzerland has a *lot* of tunnels.

Not a fan of hearing the horns at the traffic circles. Fine if they help avoid a collision, but they can be discombobulating and confusing for others in the area that are not involved and can't tell whether they *should* know what the noise is about - especially when well aware there there's no shortage of idiots about who only *think* they have a valid reason for blowing it.

Would also opine that more threads on traffic circles is likely a *good* thing. They seem to always "out" several folks who have things exactly backwards. Possibly not the ideal means of education, but those folks were never going to "take the course", anyway. Wait. I guess the "course" is more about golf carts. Conflating things seems to have become my superpower. :-( Anyway, the video done by the local police officer on carts (I think) was most satisfactory, succinctly covering all the info that would be in the course. Dang. Can't locate that video. Anybody else?

In Rome a red light is more like a suggestion than anything else

[Cooperthecat]

I haven't read the other roundabout postings so I maybe repeating a popular observation. I see a lot of drivers enter a roundabout in the left lane and make the first right exit. They don't care about or ignore the big green and white signs showing you how each lane works or the big arrows on the ground that show you how to use the lane you're in? The worst roundabout is on Meggison road heading towards Morse blvd from the south. It seems that half the drivers around me entering the roundabout in the left lane turn right onto Morse. If you're in the right lane continuing straight through on Meggison watch out! I'm not sure what the solution is? A bigger sign over the road that says "Don't turn right from the left lane"?

[lawngilander]

I don’t believe that is a merge lane.Isn’t it a right turn lane?

[Indydealmaker]

My 2003 Acura has a wonderful feature - I can have both of my hands on the steering wheel and my right thumb can also be on the horn.

Any time I drive thru a shopping center like Lake Deaton or thru a roundabout, I always have my thumb on the horn so I can honk at other drivers if they do something stupid.

Probably should just go ahead and leave the horn on full time!

[Rainger99]

Talk about right of way, I and a police officer came to a 4 way stop at the same time. We both took off at the same time and the patrol officer hit her brakes. You guessed lt, I got pulled over and I told her I had the right of way because I was on the right. She said she never heard that before. Am I wrong? That’s the way I was taught and I’m 75. No ticket!

Was this in the Villages?

[Michael 61]

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[Happydaz]

Recently, I was driving north in the right lane on Buena Vista when I was slowing down to enter a roundabout. I saw a car in the left lane that had slowed down and had its left blinker on. I assumed they had just moved over to the left lane and had inadvertently left their left blinker on. But no, as I began to enter the roundabout I saw that car turn left into the roundabout. I honked my horn, hoping they would figure out something was wrong, but they continued going the wrong way around the roundabout. I didn’t hear any crash noise so they appeared to make it through. They did have out of state plates. You can do that maneuver in England and Australia, but not here in The Villages!

[kendi]

Made a right turn out of the main entrance of Richmond -- heading South on Meggison Rd. Immediately coming out of the round-about I was staring down a car coming North on the inside lane of the two Southbound lanes!! Don't know how long she (who appeared to have paper directions in hand) had driven down the wrong side of the road, but fortunately she was getting ready to enter the round-about I just exited and, hopefully, exited on the proper side.

The moral of this story -- Alway drive defensively as you never know what you will encounter :)

That should be a no brainer.

[Stu from NYC]

That should be a no brainer.

Should is the key word

[harby]

very true due to many snowbirds and young drivers who do not live in TV. I had a minor accident there due to a young lady from Ocala (careless & not paying attention driver), then Sumter police did stop by, but did not make a report on it . So, I called Sumter Police (Sheriff) and finally made the police to write up a report showing she was at fault. Then her ins. co. will pay my truck s damage and car rental (will take auto body shop one month to finish my truck s work, ugh). Chas

[Tyson]

Big signs at every roundabout. RIGHT LANE EXIT OR STRAIGHT ONLY, LEFT LANE GO AROUND ONLY

[golfing eagles]

Big signs at every roundabout. RIGHT LANE EXIT OR STRAIGHT ONLY, LEFT LANE GO AROUND ONLY

WRONG!!! Left lane 3rd exit OR STRAIGHT only. Amazing how often someone wants to make a didactic post and is completely wrong. Well. I guess that's social media in a nutshell :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[fdpaq0580]

That you move elsewhere.

Your suggestion is not without merit. 🤔

[fdpaq0580]

Make it mandatory that everyone take a class on how to drive.
2nd, a camera for going over the “suggested” 20mph? WHAT? You can take these roundabouts faster up to the speed limit. How about fining people that stop at each roundabout when no cars are coming? There is no stop sign at the roundabout. 99% of the roundabouts you can see if anybody is in the roundabout way before you get to it, so if nobody is coming, keep driving.
3rd, fining people that go 5mph thru the roundabout instead of the 20mph “suggested” limit?

Two thoughts.
1. can you take the RB at 35 mph safely and stay in your lane?
2. You may be able to see a vehicle in the RB as you approach, but can you guarantee that they won't turn in front of you as you try to enter?
Remember, the sign may not say "stop", but it does say "Yield"! That means the vehicle wanting to enter the RB does not have the right to enter until it is safe. Those in the RB don't have to make room for you. Sorry to let you know, but sometimes "yielding" means "wait" or "stop" if you have to. Merging safety is the responsibility of the vehicle wanting to enter.

[Stu from NYC]

Two thoughts.
1. can you take the RB at 35 mph safely and stay in your lane?
2. You may be able to see a vehicle in the RB as you approach, but can you guarantee that they won't turn in front of you as you try to enter?
Remember, the sign may not say "stop", but it does say "Yield"! That means the vehicle wanting to enter the RB does not have the right to enter until it is safe. Those in the RB don't have to make room for you. Sorry to let you know, but sometimes "yielding" means "wait" or "stop" if you have to. Merging safety is the responsibility of the vehicle wanting to enter.

So many people do not understand the concept of merging. So sad.

[fdpaq0580]

Yup, another useless post. And I can’t get this time back.

Your decision to come on. You can always get off at the next exit.

[fdpaq0580]

Unfortunately, violations of a "suggested" speed can't be enforced.

True! Make it a mandatory speed limit? Was hoping for ideas to make RBs safer. Not really looking for criticism of those ideas. Just wondered what people thought might help.

[fdpaq0580]

What dribble

Use your napkin.

[fdpaq0580]

Probably should just go ahead and leave the horn on full time!

His thumb would just waste away from lack of exercise.

[fdpaq0580]

Was this in the Villages?

Did you take it to court and let the judge decide?

[DonH57]

This morning encountered someone who had no clue who has the right of way. Luckily he stopped when I honked my horn or it would not have ended well.

I find that a lot at 4 way stops or the ones who think the stop sign never applies to them or when a work vehicle is parked on the street and cars fly right thru into oncoming traffic.

[fdpaq0580]

I find that a lot at 4 way stops or the ones who think the stop sign never applies to them or when a work vehicle is parked on the street and cars fly right thru into oncoming traffic.

Narrow roads with no parking lane/room. Tw0 work trucks parked across from each other equals road block.

[VApeople]

My 2003 Acura has a wonderful feature - I can have both of my hands on the steering wheel and my right thumb can also be on the horn.

Any time I drive thru a shopping center like Lake Deaton or thru a roundabout, I always have my thumb on the horn so I can honk at other drivers if they do something stupid.

I reckon you honk a lot.

Yeah, I do honk at people a lot and I keep honking at them until I am totally out of their way.

I love honking at people!

[BrianNotFromNYC]

Every day I see crazy, and/or stupid people on the roads. People still have no clue how to use the roundabouts.

has nothing to do with proper use of a round-about. She was on the wrong side of a four way road and about to enter the wrong way into a round-about.

[Rainger99]

A senior citizen was driving down Morse Boulevard when his wife called his cell phone.

"Honey, I just heard on WVLG that there's a car going the wrong way on Morse. I know that is the road you take home so please be careful!"

“They don’t know what they are talking about” said the man. "It ain’t just one car! There are hundreds of them!"

[Stu from NYC]

A senior citizen was driving down Morse Boulevard when his wife called his cell phone.

"Honey, I just heard on WVLG that there's a car going the wrong way on Morse. I know that is the road you take home so please be careful!"

“They don’t know what they are talking about” said the man. "It ain’t just one car! There are hundreds of them!"

Very funny

[JMintzer]

..............yet you read it, and lost more lifetime replying! :shrug:

Noobs... What are you gonna' do?

[Jeanne wilson]

You can’t blame the Snow Birds!

[fdpaq0580]

You can’t blame the Snow Birds!

Why not? They're not here to defend themselves. 🫠😉🙃

[La lamy]

My 2003 Acura has a wonderful feature - I can have both of my hands on the steering wheel and my right thumb can also be on the horn.

Any time I drive thru a shopping center like Lake Deaton or thru a roundabout, I always have my thumb on the horn so I can honk at other drivers if they do something stupid.

Agreed, having the horn so easily available is a huge asset, especially in TV!!!!

[huge-pigeons]

WRONG!!! Left lane 3rd exit OR STRAIGHT only. Amazing how often someone wants to make a didactic post and is completely wrong. Well. I guess that's social media in a nutshell :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Wrong!
No wonder we have problems, people can’t read the BIG green signs before every roundabout:
The left lane can take the “2nd”, “3rd”, “4th”, “5th” exit or go round and round the circle if they want, the only restriction is it CAN’T take the “1st” exit!
The right lane can take the “1st” exit or MUST exit the “2nd”.
There are a couple of roundabouts that have a solid white line that forces the right lane to take the upcoming exit, but quite a few cowboys ignore that law too and cross it to get to the next exit.

Why is it so hard for something so easy. My answer to driving defensively, have an ambulance chaser lawyer’s and the Sumter sheriff’s phone numbers on speed dial.

[Robojo]

Drunk. High. Dimentia. Blindness. Sorrow. Old.

People of the villages are not immune. And its more concentrated here.

My first month I saw a truck get t boned by and 80 year old who never even hit the breaks doing 60.

You get used to sitting back, and waiting at night at major intersections.

[Girlcopper]

My 2003 Acura has a wonderful feature - I can have both of my hands on the steering wheel and my right thumb can also be on the horn.

Any time I drive thru a shopping center like Lake Deaton or thru a roundabout, I always have my thumb on the horn so I can honk at other drivers if they do something stupid.
Oh. What a safe and intelligent way to drive. Blaring your horn at every corner n round about or at anything YOU feel is a stupid move by others. You must be a pleasure to sit in a car with!

[Bill14564]

Wrong!
No wonder we have problems, people can’t read the BIG green signs before every roundabout:
The left lane can take the “2nd”, “3rd”, “4th”, “5th” exit or go round and round the circle if they want, the only restriction is it CAN’T take the “1st” exit!
The right lane can take the “1st” exit or MUST exit the “2nd”.
There are a couple of roundabouts that have a solid white line that forces the right lane to take the upcoming exit, but quite a few cowboys ignore that law too and cross it to get to the next exit.

Why is it so hard for something so easy. My answer to driving defensively, have an ambulance chaser lawyer’s and the Sumter sheriff’s phone numbers on speed dial.

So you are arguing that *this* is more accurate?
Big signs at every roundabout. RIGHT LANE EXIT OR STRAIGHT ONLY, LEFT LANE GO AROUND ONLY

There are big signs at every roundabout.... they DON'T all show the same thing. There are two (or maybe three) BIG green signs before roundabouts that direct traffic in the left lane to exit at the 1st exit!

GE's description is the shortest, most useful, and most accurate I have seen in the many threads on this topic.

[DonH57]

You can’t blame the Snow Birds!

No we can't but at least when the snowbirds and renters are here traffic slows to a moderately safer pace!:1rotfl:

[CybrSage]

As. Member of the American Autodueling Association, I follow their motto:

Drive offensively, the life you save may be your own.


For you heathens who do not get the reference, it is from the role plying game Car Wars by Steve Jackson. :)

[CybrSage]

Why not? They're not here to defend themselves. 🫠😉🙃

Some of us are...but then again, I look at the green signs are circles to see where each lane is allowed to exit.

Most basic rule is the left lane (closest to the middle of the circle) has the right of way. Inside lane first, outside lane second, not yet in circle last.

Anything else traps the inside lane and causes accidents. Contingent on there not being a solid white line to stop things, of course.

[ThirdOfFive]

Odd, how driving practices vary from place to place and country to country. Doing what we think is safe and prudent in TV can get you injured or killed in other places, or vice versa.

I've done a lot of riding as a passenger in cars in Thailand. The concept of "no passing zone" doesn't exist there, at least in practice. Northern Thailand is mountainous with a lot of narrow roads. It is common for one car to decide to pass another when the passing car can see barely 50 yards ahead. They way they do it is that the car doing the passing will start rapidly beeping his horn. This is a signal for the car being passed to edge over as far to the left as possible. Any oncoming car will hear the beeping, know what is going on and will move as far to the right as possible. The passing car stays in the middle. The result is that three cars can fit somewhat snugly on a road that you'd have sworn could barely contain two.

Another oddity is pedestrian crossings at intersections. They're marked (sort of) But Thais see speed, stop and yield signs as suggestions and as a result there are cars going at various speeds mixing with pedestrians in the crosswalk. I learned early on that they way to cross is NOT to pick your openings and try to get from spot to spot as rapidly as possible. That only confuses things and makes it more dangerous for all concerned. Instead you start walking across at a constant speed. They'll see and avoid you. Scary, the first few times, as your instinct runs directly counter to what you need to do.

You see some of those regional differences here too. For example, Minnesotans are notorious for slowing down when on a freeway to allow merging cars to get on in front of them. Don't see that very much here especially on a crowded freeway. Another thing I see from time to time (still don't understand it) is when in a line of cars stopping for a red light will have a person in that line decide not to block an intersection: they'll stop short of a road or street entering on the right, so traffic coming from that way can get on. Some folks appreciate it. Others react as if you've personally and irreparably inconvenienced them. To me it is only common courtesy, but then again I'm from Minnesota...

[fdpaq0580]

We ALL have to do our part! We are barely 1/2 way to 150 posts. Keep 'em coming.

Post "one way" signs in the traffic circles to help keep those inclined to turn left from doing so.

[fdpaq0580]

Odd, how driving practices vary from place to place and country to country. Doing what we think is safe and prudent in TV can get you injured or killed in other places, or vice versa.

You see some of those regional differences here too. For example, Minnesotans are notorious for slowing down when on a freeway to allow merging cars to get on in front of them. Don't see that very much here especially on a crowded freeway. Another thing I see from time to time (still don't understand it) is when in a line of cars stopping for a red light will have a person in that line decide not to block an intersection: they'll stop short of a road or street entering on the right, so traffic coming from that way can get on. Some folks appreciate it. Others react as if you've personally and irreparably inconvenienced them. To me it is only common courtesy, but then again I'm from Minnesota...

Two points to ponder. In many, if not most, states it is illegal to block an intersection. It is not a matter of courtesy. To allow cross traffic to move, the intersection must be kept free of stationary vehicles.
Another point is that most folks don't have any idea of the concept of a "space cushion". One car let's off the gas and the car following has to brake. Then the next car has to brake a little harder, and so on, until someone can't stop in time and a collision occurs. Why? Because someone slowed to let someone else merge before they bothered to accellerate so they can smoothly, and safely, enter the flow of traffic.

[ThirdOfFive]

Two points to ponder. In many, if not most, states it is illegal to block an intersection. It is not a matter of courtesy. To allow cross traffic to move, the intersection must be kept free of stationary vehicles.
Another point is that most folks don't have any idea of the concept of a "space cushion". One car let's off the gas and the car following has to brake. Then the next car has to brake a little harder, and so on, until someone can't stop in time and a collision occurs. Why? Because someone slowed to let someone else merge before they bothered to accellerate so they can smoothly, and safely, enter the flow of traffic.
Thx for the clarification. I misspoke when I used the word "intersection", and I do understand that law. What I meant was more along the lines of a right turn at the light from 441 onto El Camino Real. there is a road about 200 yards before the light that serves as one of the accesses to the gas station (Circle K?). When some people stop short so as not to block that entrance, some other folks get irate because of it.

[golfing eagles]

Wrong!
No wonder we have problems, people can’t read the BIG green signs before every roundabout:
The left lane can take the “2nd”, “3rd”, “4th”, “5th” exit or go round and round the circle if they want, the only restriction is it CAN’T take the “1st” exit!
The right lane can take the “1st” exit or MUST exit the “2nd”.
There are a couple of roundabouts that have a solid white line that forces the right lane to take the upcoming exit, but quite a few cowboys ignore that law too and cross it to get to the next exit.

Why is it so hard for something so easy. My answer to driving defensively, have an ambulance chaser lawyer’s and the Sumter sheriff’s phone numbers on speed dial.

Are you stating I'M WRONG??????

ME????

I don't think so. I responded to a post that stated the left lane can ONLY go to the 3rd exit by posting THE ABSOLUTE CORRECT INFORMATION that the left lane can proceed straight through to the 2nd exit as well.

Please explain how I am "wrong"

[fdpaq0580]

Are you stating I'M WRONG??????

ME????

I don't think so. I responded to a post that stated the left lane can ONLY go to the 3rd exit by posting THE ABSOLUTE CORRECT INFORMATION that the left lane can. proceed straight through to the 2nd exit as well.

Please explain how I am "wrong"

Can't believe anyone would say you are wrong! OMG! EVERYONE know that you are never, ever wrong! You may not be right all the time, but you are NEVER wrong.
I'm not a doctor, but I will prescribe 2 shots of your favorite beverage and a cool towel for your forehead while you rest in your recliner.

[Stu from NYC]

We ALL have to do our part! We are barely 1/2 way to 150 posts. Keep 'em coming.

Post "one way" signs in the traffic circles to help keep those inclined to turn left from doing so.

I have been trying to do my part, but sometimes life gets in the way.

[golfing eagles]

Can't believe anyone would say you are wrong! OMG! EVERYONE know that you are never, ever wrong! You may not be right all the time, but you are NEVER wrong.
I'm not a doctor, but I will prescribe 2 shots of your favorite beverage and a cool towel for your forehead while you rest in your recliner.

Took years to educate you as to that fact!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl:;1rotfl:

[Tobys Dad]

Looks like you just added to it.

Yup, comment just to comment. Pointless and unnecessary.

[Diver]

Wait until you see the new one on Rolling Acres!

[fdpaq0580]

I have been trying to do my part, but sometimes life gets in the way.

That's OK! Happens to everyone from time to time.

[fdpaq0580]

Wait until you see the new one on Rolling Acres!

Just went thru it. What were they thinking? I wonder how long B4 there is a rollover North bound? 🤔🫣😬

[fdpaq0580]

Yup, comment just to comment. Pointless and unnecessary.

Very necessary if we hope to reach 150.

[Stu from NYC]

Very necessary if we hope to reach 150.

So true.

[MsPCGenius]

Well Ladies and Gentlemen, no need to worry about this thread reaching 150 posts as it has gone so far off-topic -- it was never meant to be a discussion concerning round-abouts -- that I am going to delete it tomorrow morning. You have about 10 hours to make your last comments and then the whole thing goes "pouf!!" :wave:

[Stu from NYC]

Oh no

[fdpaq0580]

Well Ladies and Gentlemen, no need to worry about this thread reaching 150 posts as it has gone so far off-topic -- it was never meant to be a discussion concerning round-abouts -- that I am going to delete it tomorrow morning. You have about 10 hours to make your last comments and then the whole thing goes "pouf!!" :wave:

You can't be that heartless. Look at all the interest and activity your post has created. Such fun! And we have a common goal. Something rare these days, and you brought us all together. That deserves praise! And, You did it. Thank you!

[golfing eagles]

Made a right turn out of the main entrance of Richmond -- heading South on Meggison Rd. Immediately coming out of the round-about I was staring down a car coming North on the inside lane of the two Southbound lanes!! Don't know how long she (who appeared to have paper directions in hand) had driven down the wrong side of the road, but fortunately she was getting ready to enter the round-about I just exited and, hopefully, exited on the proper side.

The moral of this story -- Alway drive defensively as you never know what you will encounter :)

Well Ladies and Gentlemen, no need to worry about this thread reaching 150 posts as it has gone so far off-topic -- it was never meant to be a discussion concerning round-abouts -- that I am going to delete it tomorrow morning. You have about 10 hours to make your last comments and then the whole thing goes "pouf!!" :wave:

Hmmm..... A lot of reference to roundabouts in a thread that was "so far off topic". Wait until it devolves into a dog poop thread before deleting it :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[retiredguy123]

Well Ladies and Gentlemen, no need to worry about this thread reaching 150 posts as it has gone so far off-topic -- it was never meant to be a discussion concerning round-abouts -- that I am going to delete it tomorrow morning. You have about 10 hours to make your last comments and then the whole thing goes "pouf!!" :wave:
I didn't know that a thread creator could delete the thread. How do you do that?

[Stu from NYC]

Say it ain't so

[Topspinmo]

Every day I see crazy, and/or stupid people on the roads. People still have no clue how to use the roundabouts.

Or 4 way stops, yield signs, actually most have problems after the start the car. It goes down hill quickly. :crap2:

[Topspinmo]

I didn't know that a thread creator could delete the thread. How do you do that?


Can’t delete wording with 4 characters. They thread will live as long as moderator allows it.

[Topspinmo]

Well Ladies and Gentlemen, no need to worry about this thread reaching 150 posts as it has gone so far off-topic -- it was never meant to be a discussion concerning round-abouts -- that I am going to delete it tomorrow morning. You have about 10 hours to make your last comments and then the whole thing goes "pouf!!" :wave:

Actually the number 1 place to be defensive driver would be entering, in, and out of roundabouts.

[ThirdOfFive]

Did some clicking as to how (or whether) laws regarding driving in roundabouts differ from state to state. Laws in general pretty much agree, but there ARE differences. In Maryland, for example, you are apparently required to use your signals to let other drivers know your intentions when in a roundabout. Indiana, however, says you DON'T have to signal. Arizona has some new laws governing larger vehicles in roundabouts that other states don't. Nevada apparently has laws governing traffic activity in new ("modern") roundabouts that apparently aren't in effect in the "older" ones. Some states require that you use your signal to let other cars know you are NOT turning off (signaling left if you are going to bypass an exit and continue on in the circle). Others don't. Florida has some pretty definite, and differing, laws regarding driving in "roundabouts" vs. "traffic circles". Apparently a lot of other states don't. And so on. Pretty confusing.

IMO drivers in general aren't aware of these differences, but the lawyers surely are. I googled up several who profess expertise in laws governing traffic circles, some pointing out that there ARE differences state-to-state (though not specifying what they are, as a rule) and that they (or their law firm) are just the folks to call if you end up bending your vehicle in a roundabout.

Lots of discussion and disagreement here about "right" and "wrong" ways to navigate roundabouts. Given the differences state-to-state in roundabout rules, it might just be that what was right and just back home just doesn't fly here in Florida. But folks who have been doing it a certain way for, say, 30 years back in Boston might find it hard to change those habits in just a few months in Florida. Or any other state for that matter.

In other words, don't assume you are right in Florida because it was right in your state of origin. It just might not be.

[Stu from NYC]

Well we did manage to break 100.::a20:

[fdpaq0580]

Hmmm..... A lot of reference to roundabouts in a thread that was "so far off topic". Wait until it devolves into a dog poop thread before deleting it :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Dog poop? 💩 in a roundabout? This gets better and better!
Driving defensively at all times is wise, as OP pointed out. Everyone can make mistakes. Driving defensively can minimize the danger and even save lives. Thanks, OP, for bringing it to our attention again. Reminders with examples are good because they keep people thinking safety.
As to the dog poop, keep off my lawn! And that includes your little dog, too! 🧙*♂️ "you flabsnabber gribblesnibler!

[Two Bills]

If an elephant escapes from the local zoo or circus, and has a dump in the middle of a junction, treat the obstruction as a roundabout, and give priority to traffic from left.
Thank you.

[fdpaq0580]

If an elephant escapes from the local zoo or circus, and has a dump in the middle of a junction, treat the obstruction as a roundabout, and give priority to traffic from left.
Thank you.

Really appreciate the excellent and timely advice. As we all know, elephants are smart and social and could plan an escape at any moment. We have been warned. 😱😱😱

[MsPCGenius]

Apparently, I cannot delete my own post. It will just have to die a slow, tedious death. I thank everyone (even the off-topic gremlins) for joining in... ;)