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kbrkr
08-07-2024, 01:39 PM
Hi all,
I've seen some home listings refer to "smart home" as a selling feature. Does this mean a WiFi thermostat or does this mean there is structured wiring (CAT-6) cable throughout the house?
Thanks
Al
retiredguy123
08-07-2024, 01:42 PM
There is really no specific definition. You need to ask what features are available in the house.
CoachKandSportsguy
08-07-2024, 03:53 PM
Hi all,
I've seen some home listings refer to "smart home" as a selling feature. Does this mean a WiFi thermostat or does this mean there is structured wiring (CAT-6) cable throughout the house?
Thanks
Al
From what I have seen, it means that there is some ethernet (CAT-5/6) cable with outlets in the home. How many? dunno, most likely they will all it smart with one outlet.
My house was wired with 7 outlets and a wireless access point in the ceiling, two in each room where TVs would go, and one on the lanai, with 2 and 4 gang outlets in the study and living room for the extras . . a wired only modem and a nat router with a dedicated TV wire and a switch for all the other wires. I call that a smart home.
The one outlet i missed was for the toaster. .
:duck:
Topspinmo
08-07-2024, 04:07 PM
Hi all,
I've seen some home listings refer to "smart home" as a selling feature. Does this mean a WiFi thermostat or does this mean there is structured wiring (CAT-6) cable throughout the house?
Thanks
Al
Access home functions with IPhone like the lights, air handler thermostats, door bell, security cameras. Water monitoring, what ever else.
villagetinker
08-07-2024, 04:14 PM
My understanding is that the Wi-Fi is expected to be located in the kitchen(?) above a cabinet, and this provides connectivity to all of the devices in the house. If I recall correctly this term started to appear for houses south of 44 and also as I recall these do not have the CAT 5 wiring preinstalled. For these homes there was one coax cables installed from the garage to the kitchen.
However, I completely agree with the previous comment to ask specifically what "smart home" refers to.
LeRoySmith
08-07-2024, 05:00 PM
My understanding is that the Wi-Fi is expected to be located in the kitchen(?) above a cabinet, and this provides connectivity to all of the devices in the house. If I recall correctly this term started to appear for houses south of 44 and also as I recall these do not have the CAT 5 wiring preinstalled. For these homes there was one coax cables installed from the garage to the kitchen.
However, I completely agree with the previous comment to ask specifically what "smart home" refers to.
We are in lake denham.
1 Fiber from sprinkler cabinet to above kitchen cabinet to router-modem location.
TV coax from sprinkler cabinet to each room, 2 to the large rooms and lanai (not terminated in sprinkler cabinet)
No cat 5/6 cables anywhere.
When I asked what smart home ready meant they said the modem/router was in place with fiber to it. Thermostat already hooked to wifi. Really doesn't mean much of anything.
CarlR33
08-07-2024, 05:34 PM
I would be leery of a home that comes with a modem already. I would want my own for security reasons starting from scratch. It’s hard enough keeping mine secure who knows what access someone else might have from one that was left behind.
Altavia
08-07-2024, 06:02 PM
Worthless given high speed wifi.
They should redirect the "Smart Home" cost to a LPS for new construction.
tophcfa
08-07-2024, 06:59 PM
It’s when my wife is home. When it’s just me there, it’s a dumb home?
JMintzer
08-07-2024, 08:14 PM
My understanding is that the Wi-Fi is expected to be located in the kitchen(?) above a cabinet, and this provides connectivity to all of the devices in the house. If I recall correctly this term started to appear for houses south of 44 and also as I recall these do not have the CAT 5 wiring preinstalled. For these homes there was one coax cables installed from the garage to the kitchen.
However, I completely agree with the previous comment to ask specifically what "smart home" refers to.
Unfortunately, the outlet above that cabinet is "switched", and can be shut off with a wall switch... We simply put the router on top of another tall cabinet that had a internet wired outlet behind it...
Don't know if others have the same issue.
JMintzer
08-07-2024, 08:17 PM
I would be leery of a home that comes with a modem already. I would want my own for security reasons starting from scratch. It’s hard enough keeping mine secure who knows what access someone else might have from one that was left behind.
It's pretty easy to do a "factory reset" of your modem, wiping out previous passwords and settings...
CoachKandSportsguy
08-07-2024, 08:51 PM
When I asked what smart home ready meant they said the modem/router was in place with fiber to it. Thermostat already hooked to wifi. Really doesn't mean much of anything.
Based on that definition, all houses are "Smart" homes, and it's now a meaningless factor in advertising a home. .
To now qualify for a "smart" house, the house requires:
1) a wireless connected thermostat
2) a wireless connected sprinkler system
3) a wireless connected front door lock
4) a wireless connected door bell
5) a wireless connected garage door opener
To now qualify for a "genius" home:
5) a complete wireless security system
6) a wireless connected dishwasher
7) a wireless connected oven/range
8) wireless connected outlet light switches
*) a wireless connected pool lights and heating system
imaginary technology guy
Spartan86
08-07-2024, 09:05 PM
Unfortunately, the outlet above that cabinet is "switched", and can be shut off with a wall switch... We simply put the router on top of another tall cabinet that had a internet wired outlet behind it...
Don't know if others have the same issue.
Hmm. 2019 build designer. We have switched and unswitched above cabinets.
Susan1717
08-08-2024, 06:13 AM
All of the above but I’d also add on smart appliances. With my new appliance package, I can manage my appliances from anywhere. I can turn my dishwasher on, adjust my refrigerator, make sure my stove is off, etc.
GizmoWhiskers
08-08-2024, 06:34 AM
There is really no specific definition. You need to ask what features are available in the house.
A smart home... fits beautifully into a "smart city." Much futuristic a-do.
Taking the smart home a step further, the citizens of Lahaina in Maui Hawaii said "no" to Lahaina becoming a smart city. Hummm, what happened to Lahaina? Strange. At least a $4B settlement to rebuild has been agreed upon. Will it become a smart city though?
Wonder how they feel about smart homes??? Will have to wait and see how that city is rebuilt.
Wonder if the commissioners of Wildwood will push for smart city status?
Smart home means your home is ultimately connected to outside of your private dwelling for various services under the guides of "convenience" for yourself. Funny how the old "clap on clap off" was a thing of convenience. Using wifi to connect alexa is smart home basic as is smart wifi thermostats. One luxury at a time...
Smart home, smart city... it starts small and eventually becomes... what to who??? Smart home equals less privacy which matters to some not others. Different strokes for...
Markus
08-08-2024, 06:51 AM
Typically it means that Internet/wifi is installed and ready to be activated.
Thermostat is wifi capable
Sprinkler system is wifi capable
rsmurano
08-08-2024, 06:58 AM
A smart home does not mean it is smart just because it has cables or WiFi. If you have a home wired with cat5/6/7 then this is the basics to start a smart home. Having WiFi doesn’t mean squat! Just because you have a set of cat5/6/7 cables ran throughout your home or you have WiFi, you tell me what’s smart about this? Until you actually connect something up to it starts to make your system usable.
The sprinkler system they put in your homes is not connected to WiFi unless you purchase the hunter ‘wand’ that makes it smarter. Also, if you are only using 1 router, which is a mistake imo, the best place to put it is in the kitchen on top of the cabinets, but then you can’t take advantage of the wired cat5/6/7 connections unless you convert the phone port above the cabinets to rg45 and then setup a switched network in the network panel. My 1st router is in 1 of the bedrooms next to the modem, but then I use a wired connection to a switch in the network box then I hook up my mesh network routers by wire in multiple rooms (above the cabinets is 1 of them).
As for the definition of a smart or genius home above, the genius part is pretty basic and should be part of your definition of a smart home. I have everything you listed and many more features, some to protect my valuable information and some to save me money each month.
Add to your list;
I stream music and movies to all the different tvs and stereo systems inside and outside the house, playing the same movie/song to all devices or different movies/songs to each device,
Instead of paying for serius/xm, I stream from my server to each car giving me access to millions of songs,
I control my outdoor grill, my refrigerator, my range, sprinkler system, my Mitsubishi mini split system, all from my iPhones/ipads,
Wrote a little program that automatically opens up the garage door when I start a trip a mile away and I’m 100ft from my garage door,
My pws uploads current data to weather underground every 6 seconds so my smart sprinkler system can use this data to control when it’s time to water and for how long each zone should run,
Wrote commands that I press 1 button on the iPhone and it makes sure all my doors are locked, garage doors are down, all my programmed lights are off, and the thermostat is turned down 1 degree for sleeping.
If you take all of coach k’s definitions and include mine, you can’t do this with 1 router so I have 4 setup in a mesh network with a backhaul 6e connection to some and others are wired. Always go wired and if you can’t then use WiFi that is configured correctly.
LeRoySmith
08-08-2024, 07:03 AM
It’s when my wife is home. When it’s just me there, it’s a dumb home?
That's exactly how it works over here
LeRoySmith
08-08-2024, 07:07 AM
Hmm. 2019 build designer. We have switched and unswitched above cabinets.
Same here, our modem was plugged into the non-switched outlet above the cabinets, the switched outlet is for above and under cabinet lighting should we decide to add it (according to our sales rep).
BrianL99
08-08-2024, 07:10 AM
All of the above but I’d also add on smart appliances. With my new appliance package, I can manage my appliances from anywhere. I can turn my dishwasher on, adjust my refrigerator, make sure my stove is off, etc.
I haven't adjusted the temp in my refrigerator, since I bought it 2019.
Call me old fashioned, but I don't see that much of an advantage in being able to control the temperature of my refrigerator from my patio.
I must be missing something.
ouicestmoi
08-08-2024, 07:13 AM
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Mrmean58
08-08-2024, 07:13 AM
Hi all,
I've seen some home listings refer to "smart home" as a selling feature. Does this mean a WiFi thermostat or does this mean there is structured wiring (CAT-6) cable throughout the house?
Thanks
Al
A smart home is defined as the ability to control multiple devices through out the house using either Bluetooth technology or hard wiring.
CoachKandSportsguy
08-08-2024, 07:13 AM
A smart home does not mean it is smart just because it has cables or WiFi. If you have a home wired with cat5/6/7 then this is the basics to start a smart home. Having WiFi doesn’t mean squat! Just because you have a set of cat5/6/7 cables ran throughout your home or you have WiFi, you tell me what’s smart about this? Until you actually connect something up to it starts to make your system usable.
The sprinkler system they put in your homes is not connected to WiFi unless you purchase the hunter ‘wand’ that makes it smarter. Also, if you are only using 1 router, which is a mistake imo, the best place to put it is in the kitchen on top of the cabinets, but then you can’t take advantage of the wired cat5/6/7 connections unless you convert the phone port above the cabinets to rg45 and then setup a switched network in the network panel. My 1st router is in 1 of the bedrooms next to the modem, but then I use a wired connection to a switch in the network box then I hook up my mesh network routers by wire in multiple rooms (above the cabinets is 1 of them).
As for the definition of a smart or genius home above, the genius part is pretty basic and should be part of your definition of a smart home. I have everything you listed and many more features, some to protect my valuable information and some to save me money each month.
Add to your list;
I stream music and movies to all the different tvs and stereo systems inside and outside the house, playing the same movie/song to all devices or different movies/songs to each device,
Instead of paying for serius/xm, I stream from my server to each car giving me access to millions of songs,
I control my outdoor grill, my refrigerator, my range, sprinkler system, my Mitsubishi mini split system, all from my iPhones/ipads,
Wrote a little program that automatically opens up the garage door when I start a trip a mile away and I’m 100ft from my garage door,
My pws uploads current data to weather underground every 6 seconds so my smart sprinkler system can use this data to control when it’s time to water and for how long each zone should run,
Wrote commands that I press 1 button on the iPhone and it makes sure all my doors are locked, garage doors are down, all my programmed lights are off, and the thermostat is turned down 1 degree for sleeping.
If you take all of coach k’s definitions and include mine, you can’t do this with 1 router so I have 4 setup in a mesh network with a backhaul 6e connection to some and others are wired. Always go wired and if you can’t then use WiFi that is configured correctly.
savage technologist!
:0000000000luvmyhors
LeRoySmith
08-08-2024, 07:18 AM
A smart home does not mean it is smart just because it has cables or WiFi. If you have a home wired with cat5/6/7 then this is the basics to start a smart home. Having WiFi doesn’t mean squat! Just because you have a set of cat5/6/7 cables ran throughout your home or you have WiFi, you tell me what’s smart about this? Until you actually connect something up to it starts to make your system usable.
The sprinkler system they put in your homes is not connected to WiFi unless you purchase the hunter ‘wand’ that makes it smarter. Also, if you are only using 1 router, which is a mistake imo, the best place to put it is in the kitchen on top of the cabinets, but then you can’t take advantage of the wired cat5/6/7 connections unless you convert the phone port above the cabinets to rg45 and then setup a switched network in the network panel. My 1st router is in 1 of the bedrooms next to the modem, but then I use a wired connection to a switch in the network box then I hook up my mesh network routers by wire in multiple rooms (above the cabinets is 1 of them).
As for the definition of a smart or genius home above, the genius part is pretty basic and should be part of your definition of a smart home. I have everything you listed and many more features, some to protect my valuable information and some to save me money each month.
Add to your list;
I stream music and movies to all the different tvs and stereo systems inside and outside the house, playing the same movie/song to all devices or different movies/songs to each device,
Instead of paying for serius/xm, I stream from my server to each car giving me access to millions of songs,
I control my outdoor grill, my refrigerator, my range, sprinkler system, my Mitsubishi mini split system, all from my iPhones/ipads,
Wrote a little program that automatically opens up the garage door when I start a trip a mile away and I’m 100ft from my garage door,
My pws uploads current data to weather underground every 6 seconds so my smart sprinkler system can use this data to control when it’s time to water and for how long each zone should run,
Wrote commands that I press 1 button on the iPhone and it makes sure all my doors are locked, garage doors are down, all my programmed lights are off, and the thermostat is turned down 1 degree for sleeping.
If you take all of coach k’s definitions and include mine, you can’t do this with 1 router so I have 4 setup in a mesh network with a backhaul 6e connection to some and others are wired. Always go wired and if you can’t then use WiFi that is configured correctly.
any chance I could get you to program a little blue pill to drop every time mrs leroy winks at me?
dewilson58
08-08-2024, 07:24 AM
Hi all,
I've seen some home listings refer to "smart home" as a selling feature. Does this mean a WiFi thermostat or does this mean there is structured wiring (CAT-6) cable throughout the house?
Thanks
Al
Google is your friend.
By definition, it depends.
You need to ask the owner of the specific house you are questioning.
:oops:
Lisanp@aol.com
08-08-2024, 07:30 AM
So no one has mentioned the main vendor whose sticker is on said “sprinkler box” in the new construction. I would call them to get the pitch on what they can do to make your home “smart” but yes, it’s true the home is marketed as smart because there is a wired connection from above the kitchen cabinets to the box in the garage and the thermostat is smart. Galaxy Home Solutions is the vendor on the sticker and brochure that comes in the packet of closing documents.
rsmurano
08-08-2024, 07:50 AM
Galaxy ‘smart’ setup is a joke. Also, how about your phone alerting you that your refrigerator door is open? How about being a few miles away from home and getting alerted that your garage door is open?
Think beyond the basics.
sowilts
08-08-2024, 08:07 AM
My understanding is that the Wi-Fi is expected to be located in the kitchen(?) above a cabinet, and this provides connectivity to all of the devices in the house. If I recall correctly this term started to appear for houses south of 44 and also as I recall these do not have the CAT 5 wiring preinstalled. For these homes there was one coax cables installed from the garage to the kitchen.
However, I completely agree with the previous comment to ask specifically what "smart home" refers to.
Correct, we have a home in Linden. Connections are as Tinker posted. I guess when we are away the Refrigerator talks to the Gas stove and stove top. Cable lines were installed by Comcast and I use one for an antenna in the garage attic.
retiredguy123
08-08-2024, 08:14 AM
I haven't adjusted the temp in my refrigerator, since I bought it 2019.
Call me old fashioned, but I don't see that much of an advantage in being able to control the temperature of my refrigerator from my patio.
I must be missing something.
You are not missing anything. Unless you are a snowbird, most of the remote functions in the house have very little practical value.
ehonour
08-08-2024, 08:27 AM
Cat-5/6/7 wiring? Sorry, but that dates us all as old! In today's world, there's absolutely no need anymore to wire features like this.
"Smart home" is a vague term that's changing every year as companies come up with new features. Twenty years ago, a home would be "smart" if it had that Cat-5 wiring to connect your (desktop) computer with its modem and your doorbell. Today, the Internet of Things means that many/most homes have Internet-enabled devices all around the house - thermostat, doorbell, vacuum, lawn mower, sprinkling system, TV, sound systems. But these devices aren't really "smart" these days unless they have some AI features like Alexa/Siri.
Another ten years? The home might be smart enough to be taking care of you. (Or smart enough to get rid of you?)
BubblesandPat
08-08-2024, 08:40 AM
From what I have seen, it means that there is some ethernet (CAT-5/6) cable with outlets in the home. How many? dunno, most likely they will all it smart with one outlet.
My house was wired with 7 outlets and a wireless access point in the ceiling, two in each room where TVs would go, and one on the lanai, with 2 and 4 gang outlets in the study and living room for the extras . . a wired only modem and a nat router with a dedicated TV wire and a switch for all the other wires. I call that a smart home.
The one outlet i missed was for the toaster. .
:duck:
My home also has cat 5/6 outlets but when spectrum came to install our modem the guy said they "don't do that" I have been using spectrum for years (just for connectivity not tv) never had an issues with them and have fantastic connectivity. So I don't want to change. Use wireless for everything but would love to know more about how you connected. I have an Asus router..
irrolc
08-08-2024, 09:28 AM
This response is Right On.
irrolc
08-08-2024, 09:30 AM
Best answer. Love it.
dewilson58
08-08-2024, 10:09 AM
You are not missing anything. Unless you are a snowbird, most of the remote functions in the house have very little practical value.
We enjoy "having control" when we are on vacation.
We like having smart smoke/fire alarms while we are still in TV......jus in case.
DrHitch
08-08-2024, 11:56 AM
There is really nothing "smart" about the house unless it comes to the market with permanent hardwired features.
In a wireless world, the modem, router, and devices migrate with the owner....
So, if you have:
Connected appliances (IoT)
Kasa (or other brand) wired light switches and plugs
Ring doorbell (most stay with the house)
WiFi irrigation timer
WiFi thermostat (eg Nest)
Then, sure, list the house as "smart", but just having Cat5 wiring doesn't make the house "smart" in my opinion
blueash
08-08-2024, 01:10 PM
All of the above but I’d also add on smart appliances. With my new appliance package, I can manage my appliances from anywhere. I can turn my dishwasher on, adjust my refrigerator, make sure my stove is off, etc.
Somehow I have lived all these years and never found the need to manage my appliances from anywhere but right next to them. Just one more circuit board to go bad.
Altavia
08-08-2024, 05:59 PM
Somehow I have lived all these years and never found the need to manage my appliances from anywhere but right next to them. Just one more circuit board to go bad.
Over the years I find the technology inceasingly helpful when traveling/away to: monitor the alarms/cameras (lawncare and pest control guys, etc.), adjust irrigation or temperature, allowing amazon garage delivery, open doors for contractors, close the Lanai blinds when a storm is approaching, cool down the home when returning, etc.
dewilson58
08-08-2024, 06:44 PM
The house ain't that smart.
JMintzer
08-08-2024, 09:06 PM
Hmm. 2019 build designer. We have switched and unswitched above cabinets.
Same here, our modem was plugged into the non-switched outlet above the cabinets, the switched outlet is for above and under cabinet lighting should we decide to add it (according to our sales rep).
Hmmm...
I'll have to get back up on the counter and check again. I only found one (switched) outlet last time I checked...
But then again, I can't find the mayonnaise that right in front of me in the refrigerator...
Bill14564
08-08-2024, 09:12 PM
Hmmm...
I'll have to get back up on the counter and check again. I only found one (switched) outlet last time I checked...
But then again, I can't find the mayonnaise that right in front of me in the refrigerator...
Same here except a switched outlet above each of the two cabinets. Results in a problem every once in a while.
LeRoySmith
08-09-2024, 04:55 AM
Hmmm...
I'll have to get back up on the counter and check again. I only found one (switched) outlet last time I checked...
But then again, I can't find the mayonnaise that right in front of me in the refrigerator...
Be careful up there you old guys should not be on ladders.
ARackAbove
08-09-2024, 06:27 AM
Hi. I previously owned and operated a Audio/Video company. Years ago before Wi-Fi was so prevalent, we were wiring homes for data (computers), Cable TV, DirectV and multi-feed cable so a single video source could be distributed throughout the home. We wired for whole house music where 4 different audio sources could play at the same time in different rooms with the touch of a button on the wall. Back then, people listened to music for the quality. Not anymore!! Convenience and poor audio quality is accepted today. IMO, a "SmartHome" today does not exist. Most everything now is "plug and play" with "Smart Home" devices. We used to install automated lighting so lights came on at the same time every night. 1button set different "scenes" in the home, this is now accomplished with Google and Alexa. So unless there is "hardwires" in the walls with hardware attached, there really is no "Smart Home" today.
BubblesandPat
08-09-2024, 08:29 AM
Same here, our modem was plugged into the non-switched outlet above the cabinets, the switched outlet is for above and under cabinet lighting should we decide to add it (according to our sales rep).
We have an outlet over our cabinets but never really looked at it up close. I don't think it has the red dot our outlets with a switch has...is it switchable? What's the reason for putting the modem up there? I don't think we have a coax connection up there for our modem. Does anyone do that with spectrum?
JMintzer
08-09-2024, 08:59 AM
Be careful up there you old guys should not be on ladders.
Step-stool to counter...
AND I'M NOT THAT OLD!!!
Now get off my lawn!
JMintzer
08-09-2024, 09:00 AM
We have an outlet over our cabinets but never really looked at it up close. I don't think it has the red dot our outlets with a switch has...is it switchable? What's the reason for putting the modem up there? I don't think we have a coax connection up there for our modem. Does anyone do that with spectrum?
Putting the wi-fi modem up there theoretically increases it's range...
BubblesandPat
08-09-2024, 10:51 PM
Putting the wi-fi modem up there theoretically increases it's range...
You mean the router? Our router has to connect to the modem and the modem needs to connect to a coax connection..which I don't think we have up over the cabinets. I like having it all under my tv as i can connect my roku directly to my router instead of wifi. I have 27 items on my wifi connection as it is!
I agree...nothing smart about our houses...
CoachKandSportsguy
08-10-2024, 08:17 AM
You mean the router? Our router has to connect to the modem and the modem needs to connect to a coax connection..which I don't think we have up over the cabinets. I like having it all under my tv as i can connect my roku directly to my router instead of wifi. I have 27 items on my wifi connection as it is!
I agree...nothing smart about our houses...
technically, neither a wireless modem nor a router.
the technical term is a wireless access point. . to access the network with a wireless device.
however, since the wireless access point is in the same physical box with a router and/or a modem, you should generally get the idea that the wireless access point is in the same box as his cable modem, (and the router).
my set up has each item as a separate physical device
a cable modem, not wireless
a router
a switch
a wireless access point.
cable companies bundle everything as a cable modem, a router and a single wireless access point all in one box.
biker1
08-10-2024, 09:05 AM
You are probably configured to support up to 254 devices so you have plenty of room. Most of your devices probably use a small percentage of the bandwidth. For example, streaming Hi-Def (1080p) uses about 5 megabits per second of bandwidth.
You mean the router? Our router has to connect to the modem and the modem needs to connect to a coax connection..which I don't think we have up over the cabinets. I like having it all under my tv as i can connect my roku directly to my router instead of wifi. I have 27 items on my wifi connection as it is!
I agree...nothing smart about our houses...
JMintzer
08-10-2024, 10:17 AM
You mean the router? Our router has to connect to the modem and the modem needs to connect to a coax connection..which I don't think we have up over the cabinets. I like having it all under my tv as i can connect my roku directly to my router instead of wifi. I have 27 items on my wifi connection as it is!
I agree...nothing smart about our houses...
Yes, the router. Mine is a one piece modem/router combo by Netgear.
Pretty sure we have a coax cable up there, but I'm not in TV right now to check...
BubblesandPat
08-11-2024, 06:39 AM
technically, neither a wireless modem nor a router.
the technical term is a wireless access point. . to access the network with a wireless device.
however, since the wireless access point is in the same physical box with a router and/or a modem, you should generally get the idea that the wireless access point is in the same box as his cable modem, (and the router).
my set up has each item as a separate physical device
a cable modem, not wireless
a router
a switch
a wireless access point.
cable companies bundle everything as a cable modem, a router and a single wireless access point all in one box.
Same here. I have a cable modem and have attached a Asus wireless router thar has vpn.
When spectrum came to install and he was out in the garage where the sprinkler system is I asked him about all the coax out there and if we could put a switch in..he was clueless on what I was asking
I would Love to be able to use the hardwire cat 5/6 (not even sure what we have..as we bought pre-owned and nobody seems to know..would love to know who to ask) I maybe old fashion but I prefer the security of wired as opposed to wifi..
BubblesandPat
08-11-2024, 06:46 AM
You are probably configured to support up to 254 devices so you have plenty of room. Most of your devices probably use a small percentage of the bandwidth. For example, streaming Hi-Def (1080p) uses about 5 megabits per second of bandwidth.
I didn't opt for spectrums router. I just got the modem. I put in my own router so I can configure the 2.4 and 5 ghz separately with their own security code and configured vpn. I get great connections and have zero streaming issues. But since our homes have wired connectivity why can't we take advantage of it. Simply for security reasons. (Although I know these days security seems to be no longer an option haha)
LeRoySmith
08-11-2024, 06:57 AM
I would Love to be able to use the hardwire cat 5/6 (not even sure what we have..as we bought pre-owned and nobody seems to know..would love to know who to ask) I maybe old fashion but I prefer the security of wired as opposed to wifi..
If you're wondering about which type of cable you have it will be printed on the cable jacket (the cables specs will be printed every 2 feet or so). The category ( cat5, cat5e, cat6 etc.) is mostly a descriptor of how far and fast data can be pushed. It started with cat1 which is voice only capable, it had paper or cotton insulation. As demand for faster and further transmission came about they developed better cable. My knowledge and experience of it ends at cat6 but everything above 5 will carry tv signal at least 325 feet.
CoachKandSportsguy
08-11-2024, 09:19 AM
If you have a cable modem only, you need a NAT router and a switch, separately or in one box, to plug all the Ethernet cables into it and have all devices work at the same time. All equipment needs to be rated a 1gb or higher. In addition, a wireless access point can be used as well from the switch with PoE devices. PoE = Power over Ethernet
BubblesandPat
08-11-2024, 09:35 AM
If you're wondering about which type of cable you have it will be printed on the cable jacket (the cables specs will be printed every 2 feet or so). The category ( cat5, cat5e, cat6 etc.) is mostly a descriptor of how far and fast data can be pushed. It started with cat1 which is voice only capable, it had paper or cotton insulation. As demand for faster and further transmission came about they developed better cable. My knowledge and experience of it ends at cat6 but everything above 5 will carry tv signal at least 325 feet.
I guess I could take a plate off the wall and see how it's labeled but my question is who do i call to make them hot? I am sure it requires something done either at the connection box either outside or in our garage. Spectrum was useless...my old house had a closet in the hallway you connected a router switch to and this allowed all the ethernet jacks to be live through the switch. There was a single coax connection for your cable modem and you connected your switch to the modem. That is what I was hoping for here...
Pinball wizard
08-11-2024, 09:45 AM
As far as wiring goes...
It all depends on where you live, and when your house was built. I live in Fenney and there is traditional cable TV coax from the low voltage box in the garage to every room of the house. The house was also wired for traditional (POTS) wired telephone service. When I inspected the cables (also in the low voltage cabinet) I found that the telephone wiring was CAT 5e. This can be used for Ethernet. I disconnected the wires in the low voltage box and put Ethernet connectors on the ends of the wires. The I did the same in the rooms that had the telephone jacks that I wanted to use for Ethernet. I also had to change the face plates on the wall.
Having said all of this, you CAN use the unused cable lines for Ethernet with MoCA adapters. This is a more expensive solution but you don't have to mess with putting the Ethernet adapters on the wires nor change the wall plates.
https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Ethernet-Compatible-Throughput-TMO-311C2K/dp/B08PDMP79D/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VXlhFiLOyl6MX0x3ILyWWI vrUw_06k6gW6LBw1ewNR0a2YP3_4HAnNe3oBDaVaQMXOBWnrW-gLo-vTI1RrkKMFIbweHOUhKgcZgaP5_RFFiaLKOg7qSIXEYriLn1Na XrzCN3KqvkEw1n1V6eed72TZQQuKI8u5q7_mCfl-YObS0g25YPO3cDMX6yKxGDgk1F-lXUQC7yCCm8CgZ330VF_s55ENzbrqAqNaasdJUGdIQ.PKwZIGv 7L_4QvpydeoHGmfA7sKL36MFUQbTnX11pxS8&dib_tag=se&keywords=ethernet%2Bover%2Bcoax&qid=1723387318&sr=8-6&th=1
Pinball wizard
08-11-2024, 09:54 AM
I guess I could take a plate off the wall and see how it's labeled but my question is who do i call to make them hot? I am sure it requires something done either at the connection box either outside or in our garage. Spectrum was useless...my old house had a closet in the hallway you connected a router switch to and this allowed all the ethernet jacks to be live through the switch. There was a single coax connection for your cable modem and you connected your switch to the modem. That is what I was hoping for here...
It's easier to just look at the wires in the low voltage box.
To make the wires "live" (if you have Xfinity or Spectrum), you would have to have the modem/router in the low voltage box and connect the Ethernet cables to the router. You might also need an Ethernet switch.
Finally, one other suggestion is to use a Powerline adapter. This allows you to run the Ethernet signals (internet) over the power lines in your home. I tried this several years ago and was not happy with the performance. It may be better now.
https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Powerline-Pass-Through-TL-PA9020P-KIT/dp/B01H74VKZU/ref=sr_1_2?crid=13W9ZH3P5J441&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.0838BHwdvo5l2Y1jpeAWnnEq6GuoPjVJG A6ZVRCx3YpZnMEKtKivtDM6WmLwW1l0A6Wq0jT-vxJSvu_yVbZNvQPwZYwZn0Mr5dVVEgi3Eair-kUxrgK4Xf9U2mK3L8rg8tPh4Emm2KpVqMeLni4loVECnFHhDGN pr4mC2szRv5eL2_7mjSKm2HKzwDVHGZVM-CATO-efxSZFWQb6LeNo40_bynp9vBOwIde1KVK15Ro.wmu8q0MAUj2z pXAMqrYn43hzkQuQyTG_Dp5IAdf3Hn4&dib_tag=se&keywords=powerline+ethernet+adapter&qid=1723387986&sprefix=powerline%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-2
Maker
08-11-2024, 02:12 PM
Finally, one other suggestion is to use a Powerline adapter. This allows you to run the Ethernet signals (internet) over the power lines in your home. I tried this several years ago and was not happy with the performance. It may be better now.
Current MOCA adapters work quite well, with throughput of 2.5Gbps
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