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Will.S
08-12-2024, 11:44 AM
Will be looking for a used GAS CART in September.
I'd like to budget about $ 9,000. What mileage can I expect (or how many hours) should I expect a used cart in this budget to have ?

Thank. you. :bigbow:

Looks like I was not specific on my question. ONLY ASKING ABOUT MILES Maybe I should phrase something like..... How many miles are good for a used cart. 500 ? 3000? More? (I dont know how many miles a cart can be driven till dead)

Normal
08-12-2024, 12:00 PM
Will be looking for a used GAS CART in September.
I'd like to budget about $ 9,000. What mileage can I expect (or how many hours) should I expect a used cart in this budget to have ?

Thank. you. :bigbow:

If it’s a Yamaha, it probably won’t be a quiet tech. Likely a 2020 model or earlier? It depends of course on additions, rain curtains etc.

CoachKandSportsguy
08-12-2024, 12:06 PM
as few as possible:

find friends
check out their engine appearances, how they drive
check out a brand new cart engine appearances, test drive

continue until you get a feel for the differences in age.

now go shopping. .
test drive, feel quality of acceleration, responsiveness of steering and braking. .

purchase

Bill14564
08-12-2024, 12:13 PM
If it’s a Yamaha, it probably won’t be a quiet tech. Likely a 2020 model or earlier? It depends of course on additions, rain curtains etc.

Yamaha came out with the Quiet Tech in 2017. My 2019 Yamaha is a Quiet Tech Drive2.

A quick look on the classifieds portion of this site it looks like $9,000 could get a 2018-2021 Yamaha.

asianthree
08-12-2024, 02:23 PM
Or if you find a used cart you like one can consider using one of the cart repair guys to do a look over for a reasonable fee.

dewilson58
08-12-2024, 04:11 PM
Yamaha came out with the Quiet Tech in 2017. My 2019 Yamaha is a Quiet Tech Drive2.

A quick look on the classifieds portion of this site it looks like $9,000 could get a 2018-2021 Yamaha.

Oooooooooooooooo, there you go again with facts.

Dotneko
08-12-2024, 05:00 PM
I know a Yamaha quiettech 2018 that just came on the market. 300 hours. 4 seater. Fancy seats. Bells and whistles for 10,900. Reference price for OP

Normal
08-12-2024, 07:09 PM
Yamaha came out with the Quiet Tech in 2017. My 2019 Yamaha is a Quiet Tech Drive2.

A quick look on the classifieds portion of this site it looks like $9,000 could get a 2018-2021 Yamaha.

Hopefully it works out that way for the OP :)

New carts are running around 15-18 k depending on accessories, sunbrella covers, lights, seats etc. I didn’t know quiet techs were made in 2017. They do have the name, but they aren’t as quiet lol! They do seem louder than the later models. Perhaps they have improved quite a bit in construction on models made from 2022 on. Looking on line it appears the mufflers were done differently and there have been improvements in sound proofing. True name, but not the same product.

Certainly avoid the older 2017 rear clutch style too. The six bolt is a lot better than the 2017 4 bolt clutch wheel.

You are correct about the name, but not about the actucart and all the improvements that have evolved. I certainly would consider the year a cart was made and not just the hours or miles on It.

MrChip72
08-12-2024, 08:30 PM
If it’s a Yamaha, it probably won’t be a quiet tech. Likely a 2020 model or earlier? It depends of course on additions, rain curtains etc.

You can usually find slightly older Quiet techs for $9000 or less if you're looking to buy outside of snowbird season. 2017 and newer are Quiet tech. There's no major technological difference between a 2017 Quiet tech and a new one. I would many look at mileage and condition.

One of the biggest considerations is what add-ons does it come with. Our used cart came with Sunbrella, upgraded dash, upgraded wheels and a bunch of other goodies that would've easily added $2000 to the price of the cart.

Topspinmo
08-12-2024, 09:41 PM
Seems nobody talked about milage. My 2013 FI Yamaha cart get around 42 MPG.

eastmand411
08-13-2024, 05:11 AM
Will be looking for a used GAS CART in September.
I'd like to budget about $ 9,000. What mileage can I expect (or how many hours) should I expect a used cart in this budget to have ?

Thank. you. :bigbow:

Where were you a month ago. I sold my 2017 Yamaha Quiet Tech, I had it listed for $8900 and sold it for $7350. It had 495 hours on it and roughly 6000 miles. These carts are out there. Just look closely. FB Marketplace seems to be a great source. Good luck, I hope you find what you are looking for. One suggestion, if you buy from some dealers, their carts are "fleet vehicles from a golf course and remanufactured" and to make them legal in The Villages, the transmission is changed from a low speed to a high speed. It's not a bad thing, and you may get a better deal, but also think about all those videos you have watched of some ding-a-ling doing crazy things on a golf course, it could be the one you buy and you will never know.

RICH1
08-13-2024, 05:11 AM
9 grand will get you an abused, worn-out golf cart .. What you need to
do is get away from the Villages, and make your deal... Almost every Golf Cart Dealer delivers carts for free. Ocala is a good place to start...Yamaha is the only way to go...

Normal
08-13-2024, 05:46 AM
You can usually find slightly older Quiet techs for $9000 ….There's no major technological difference between a 2017 Quiet tech and a new one.

Actually there are some major changes as far as engine, the air flow carb and spark arrestor. The 2017 PTV Quietech only has an 8.9 HP motor where subsequent models have the 12.29 HP. The new airflow carb is different too. However, you can adjust that governor for a speed of almost 25 mph on the older model. But yes, most 17 ‘s have been driven to death.

bowlingal
08-13-2024, 05:47 AM
make sure to get self cancelling turn signals and seat belts.

westernrider75
08-13-2024, 06:03 AM
Will be looking for a used GAS CART in September.
I'd like to budget about $ 9,000. What mileage can I expect (or how many hours) should I expect a used cart in this budget to have ?

Thank. you. :bigbow:

Just for a point of reference, we just sold a 2020 Yamaha 2 seater with all the standard Villages equipment for $12,500. It had about 4,000 miles on it. Hope that helps.

Shelbyh
08-13-2024, 06:04 AM
Will be looking for a used GAS CART in September.
I'd like to budget about $ 9,000. What mileage can I expect (or how many hours) should I expect a used cart in this budget to have ?

Thank. you. :bigbow:

Buying a golf cart after you get here will cost you quite a bit. From talking to our neighbors so many of them had issues with their used golf carts as soon as they were dropped off.
We purchased our 2020 Yamaha quietec for 5200 back home and brought it with us. Around here same cart will cost you the 9k.
You can get a brand new electric golf cart for 9k if you prefer electric.

Sandy and Ed
08-13-2024, 06:15 AM
I’m puzzled. I can’t find a mileage or hour meter on my 2021 Yamaha Quiet tech. I was told they don’t have mileage or hourly use indicators. How are you all coming up with these numbers??

Sandy and Ed
08-13-2024, 06:21 AM
“One suggestion, if you buy from some dealers, their carts are "fleet vehicles from a golf course and remanufactured" and to make them legal in The Villages, the transmission is changed from a low speed to a high speed. It's not a bad thing, and you may get a better deal”.

That is what we purchased from the cart place on 466 off Morse. I don’t know that we got that great a deal on it but we were new to TV

DrHitch
08-13-2024, 06:36 AM
nobody talked about milage. My 2013 FI Yamaha cart get around 42 MPG.

Good to know as most carts have a 5 gallon gas tank. BUT the OP was using the term "mileage" in reference to odometer for "hours of usage" in buying a used cart. A early 2000s cart with under 500 hours could be a good buy!

mrf6969
08-13-2024, 06:50 AM
If it’s a Yamaha, it probably won’t be a quiet tech. Likely a 2020 model or earlier? It depends of course on additions, rain curtains etc.

Yes it can be a QuieTech as those started in 2017.

Normal
08-13-2024, 06:53 AM
Yes it can be a QuieTech as those started in 2017.

So true! Just a different machine, but the same name.

mrf6969
08-13-2024, 06:54 AM
I’m puzzled. I can’t find a mileage or hour meter on my 2021 Yamaha Quiet tech. I was told they don’t have mileage or hourly use indicators. How are you all coming up with these numbers??
This is because your cart that you purchased was most likely a "Fleet cart" which means it was used on a golf course for however many hours that you will never know. Those carts come off of a lease by the course and get sold to the highest bid in bulk.

DONNIEBRONX
08-13-2024, 07:23 AM
I have a 2015 Yamaha and get @ 200 miles on a full tank

Blueblaze
08-13-2024, 11:43 AM
You will likely never know. The vast majority of used carts sold in the Villages started life as a fleet cart, and they don't come with an hours meter. In fact, if you are looking at a cart that has one, that's a good way to know it's always been a "personal transportation vehicle", and the mileage is low, regardless of what the meter says.

When I realized I could buy a new Yamaha "PTV" outside the bubble for the same price as a 2-year-old converted fleet cart inside, I gave up looking for a used one. But you won't find one of either of those for $9K anywhere. For a couple of years, until I replaced my Ford Edge, my Yamaha was the most valuable car I owned. It's unbelievable the price they get for these stupid little go-carts.

jimjamuser
08-13-2024, 01:16 PM
Will be looking for a used GAS CART in September.
I'd like to budget about $ 9,000. What mileage can I expect (or how many hours) should I expect a used cart in this budget to have ?

Thank. you. :bigbow:
Anyone buying a USED golf cart should be aware of a popular practice here in Village-Land........that is "jacking up" the accelerator limiter to increase the speed from the legal limit of 20 mph to 30, 40, even 50 mph. The drivers that do that are former hot rod teenagers that NEVER grew up. They beat up their golf cart and take turns at excessive speeds that is both dangerous to them (flipping) and hard on the vehicles rear end bearings. The engine probably smokes and needs a new ring job. But they put the speed advance control back to a normal 20 mph and put heavier oil in the engine. THEY THEY UNLOAD their beaten up LEMON golf cart,
--------So my warning is BUYER BEWARE. Make sure by talking to friends that the owner selling a used golf cart was never seen driving it over 20 MPH. Like I said -----BUYER BEWARE !!!!

Kenswing
08-13-2024, 02:06 PM
Anyone buying a USED golf cart should be aware of a popular practice here in Village-Land........that is "jacking up" the accelerator limiter to increase the speed from the legal limit of 20 mph to 30, 40, even 50 mph. The drivers that do that are former hot rod teenagers that NEVER grew up. They beat up their golf cart and take turns at excessive speeds that is both dangerous to them (flipping) and hard on the vehicles rear end bearings. The engine probably smokes and needs a new ring job. But they put the speed advance control back to a normal 20 mph and put heavier oil in the engine. THEY THEY UNLOAD their beaten up LEMON golf cart,
--------So my warning is BUYER BEWARE. Make sure by talking to friends that the owner selling a used golf cart was never seen driving it over 20 MPH. Like I said -----BUYER BEWARE !!!!
Absolutely hilarious! Every time you post the carts just keep getting faster. You were stuck on 30 for quite awhile. Now you’re up to 50mph. Again, absolutely hilarious.

JMintzer
08-13-2024, 03:47 PM
Anyone buying a USED golf cart should be aware of a popular practice here in Village-Land........that is "jacking up" the accelerator limiter to increase the speed from the legal limit of 20 mph to 30, 40, even 50 mph. The drivers that do that are former hot rod teenagers that NEVER grew up. They beat up their golf cart and take turns at excessive speeds that is both dangerous to them (flipping) and hard on the vehicles rear end bearings. The engine probably smokes and needs a new ring job. But they put the speed advance control back to a normal 20 mph and put heavier oil in the engine. THEY THEY UNLOAD their beaten up LEMON golf cart,
--------So my warning is BUYER BEWARE. Make sure by talking to friends that the owner selling a used golf cart was never seen driving it over 20 MPH. Like I said -----BUYER BEWARE !!!!

Now it's up top 50 MPH?

Anyone taking bets on how soon the ludicrous claim will be 60 MPH? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

LeRoySmith
08-13-2024, 05:29 PM
Now it's up top 50 MPH?

Anyone taking bets on how soon the ludicrous claim will be 60 MPH? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

No to long ago (late June) I had a gas Yamaha pass me on meggison, I was pushing the speed limit by 2 or 3 mph and he passed me easily. He was going at least 35, maybe as much as 37. I'm pretty sure the speedometer in my car is close so I'm confident in those speeds. I had no idea a golf cart could go that fast.

wsachs
08-13-2024, 05:36 PM
I have a 2018 and it’s a Quiet Tech!

tophcfa
08-13-2024, 08:24 PM
I periodically see 2013 - 2016 Yamaha EFI carts available for between about $5.5 -$7.5 grand depending on mileage and upgrades. Those are the most reliable and bullet proof carts you’ll find, period. Our 2014 EFI has 1,050 hours on it (no odometer, but I’m estimating about 16,000 miles) and it runs as good as the day it was new. I wouldn’t be afraid of purchasing one of these if it appears well cared for. Many Villagers are part time, or own two carts, and have well cared for older carts with relatively low miles. Age doesn’t really degrade a cart, poor maintenance does. One word of caution would be to identify the type of brakes. It will either have drum brakes or the rear team axle with internal wet brakes. Both are good, but if it has the wet brakes be sure to see service records. If the rear transmission fluid hasn’t been periodically replaced with a good friction modified transmission fluid then run away. I change the transmission fluid on our EFI every two years, which is overkill, but I’d rather play it safe as it’s very difficult to replace the rear axel.

biker1
08-14-2024, 02:04 AM
As I recall, you don’t own a golf cart. How is it that you are so tuned in to these alleged practices? Regarding top speeds, in the case of Yamahas, I suspect 35 MPH is attainable if you have the high speed gear in the differential. I doubt the engine can reach the RPMs necessary to reach 50 MPH so I am calling BS on that claim until such time as you can provide proof. FYI, I believe well over half of the carts in The Villages can speeds over 20 MPH. I see many people typically driving 22-24 MPH.

Anyone buying a USED golf cart should be aware of a popular practice here in Village-Land........that is "jacking up" the accelerator limiter to increase the speed from the legal limit of 20 mph to 30, 40, even 50 mph. The drivers that do that are former hot rod teenagers that NEVER grew up. They beat up their golf cart and take turns at excessive speeds that is both dangerous to them (flipping) and hard on the vehicles rear end bearings. The engine probably smokes and needs a new ring job. But they put the speed advance control back to a normal 20 mph and put heavier oil in the engine. THEY THEY UNLOAD their beaten up LEMON golf cart,
--------So my warning is BUYER BEWARE. Make sure by talking to friends that the owner selling a used golf cart was never seen driving it over 20 MPH. Like I said -----BUYER BEWARE !!!!

melpetezrinski
08-14-2024, 06:56 AM
Will be looking for a used GAS CART in September.
I'd like to budget about $ 9,000. What mileage can I expect (or how many hours) should I expect a used cart in this budget to have ?

Thank. you. :bigbow:

Anywhere from 50-1000 hours or 750-15000 miles. Why the huge difference, because there are different brand carts, different versions, accessories and/or features. I would personally suggest buying a used Yamaha PTV with upgraded seats. In this case, you would be looking at a 2017-2019 cart with 750 hours.

If you can afford another $1000, you can get a brand new Yamaha. However, it's the FLEET version, which I personally would not buy. This 2024 was just listed on Nextdoor yesterday.

Snakster66
08-14-2024, 07:24 AM
Anywhere from 50-1000 hours or 750-15000 miles. Why the huge difference, because there are different brand carts, different versions, accessories and/or features. I would personally suggest buying a used Yamaha PTV with upgraded seats. In this case, you would be looking at a 2017-2019 cart with 750 hours.

If you can afford another $1000, you can get a brand new Yamaha. However, it's the FLEET version, which I personally would not buy. This 2024 was just listed on Nextdoor yesterday.
As I will soon be in the same boat (cart?), judging from your post, a generally safe conversion for hours to miles is a multiple of 15?

Normal
08-14-2024, 08:08 AM
As I will soon be in the same boat (cart?), judging from your post, a generally safe conversion for hours to miles is a multiple of 15?

That sounds like a good mean for your metric or calculus. When you get here, just sit down at an outdoor venue of a restaurant or two and observe the different cart types driving by. The Yamaha’s are certainly the most popular, but some of those have gone through some serious abuse.

Their governors are cranked back for the 25 mph speed, but you can almost hear the valves slamming their valve covers into a slow impending engine death. The engines are louder and some even do blow smoke from ring problems.

The beauty of newer models is they can’t quite be as abused because they only do 21-22 mph with their governor’s maxed out and they are quieter. The newer model may be the better condition when you buy.

Topspinmo
08-14-2024, 08:11 AM
You will likely never know. The vast majority of used carts sold in the Villages started life as a fleet cart, and they don't come with an hours meter. In fact, if you are looking at a cart that has one, that's a good way to know it's always been a "personal transportation vehicle", and the mileage is low, regardless of what the meter says.

When I realized I could buy a new Yamaha "PTV" outside the bubble for the same price as a 2-year-old converted fleet cart inside, I gave up looking for a used one. But you won't find one of either of those for $9K anywhere. For a couple of years, until I replaced my Ford Edge, my Yamaha was the most valuable car I owned. It's unbelievable the price they get for these stupid little go-carts.


It’s the add ons seat may add out 3K to cart, side curtains, lights with turn signals, larger tires and cast rims. Carts new villages ready runs around 18K and up last time I was on showroom floor. And course labor not free doing the up grades.

Bottom line on used cart there now way knowing how many hours/miles you can only look at the condition and evaluate the mechanical components by pulling dipsticks looking for leaks, tire wear, I personally don’t like QTs cause of excess heat buildup and makes harder to do routine maintenance, plus the engine compartment get dirty. I’m clean freak.

melpetezrinski
08-14-2024, 09:27 AM
That sounds like a good mean for your metric or calculus. When you get here, just sit down at an outdoor venue of a restaurant or two and observe the different cart types driving by. The Yamaha’s are certainly the most popular, but some of those have gone through some serious abuse.

Their governors are cranked back for the 25 mph speed, but you can almost hear the valves slamming their valve covers into a slow impending engine death. The engines are louder and some even do blow smoke from ring problems.

The beauty of newer models is they can’t quite be as abused because they only do 21-22 mph with their governor’s maxed out and they are quieter. The newer model may be the better condition when you buy.

The "newer models" go 19 mph stock and tightening the nut on the govenor until the end of the bolt threads will yield 25-26 mph. A lift with bigger tires, upgraded spring in the secondary clutch and performance air filter and drive belt will allow you to easily exceed 30 mph.

Snakster66
08-14-2024, 09:46 AM
The "newer models" go 19 mph stock and tightening the nut on the govenor until the end of the bolt threads will yield 25-26 mph. A lift with bigger tires, upgraded spring in the secondary clutch and performance air filter and drive belt will allow you to easily exceed 30 mph.

Would it be safe to assume that the best way to annoy people who jack up their speed is to keep yours stock, and drive in front of them? If so, this kind of brings a smile to my face.

JMintzer
08-14-2024, 07:35 PM
Would it be safe to assume that the best way to annoy people who jack up their speed is to keep yours stock, and drive in front of them? If so, this kind of brings a smile to my face.

Your goal is to "annoy people"? How neighborly...

Snakster66
08-15-2024, 05:42 AM
Your goal is to "annoy people"? How neighborly...

My goal is to do the speed limit and follow rules in a closed community. If that annoys people who don’t feel it’s necessary to follow rules, indeed go through efforts to consciously break them, then I’m ok with that.

Bay Kid
08-15-2024, 06:35 AM
Carting is a great pastime in TVs. Cruise and enjoy the beautiful views. 2020 or newer carts are what I would look for.

VAtoFLA
08-30-2024, 03:26 AM
I have a related question. Two carts, the same model year, one with about 600 hours but adjustable bucket seats, the other just over 200 with armrest bench seat.

I'm thinking the difference in seat exceeds the difference in usage, but I'm also thinking I could be wrong.

Would love the opinions of this group.

melpetezrinski
08-30-2024, 11:32 AM
I have a related question. Two carts, the same model year, one with about 600 hours but adjustable bucket seats, the other just over 200 with armrest bench seat.

I'm thinking the difference in seat exceeds the difference in usage, but I'm also thinking I could be wrong.

Would love the opinions of this group.

Are you asking which cart provides a better value? If so, I would DEFINITELY buy the 200 hour cart. 400 more hours on a used cart can bring up a lot of issues if not properly driven and maintained. However, I would need more specifics on the seats. Even if you had stock seats and compared it to Backspin's Elegante seats, I would still buy the 200 hour cart.

VAtoFLA
08-30-2024, 12:10 PM
Are you asking which cart provides a better value? If so, I would DEFINITELY buy the 200 hour cart. 400 more hours on a used cart can bring up a lot of issues if not properly driven and maintained. However, I would need more specifics on the seats. Even if you had stock seats and compared it to Backspin's Elegante seats, I would still buy the 200 hour cart.

Thank you, that is very helpful. I really appreciate your insights.

TravelswithD&K
08-30-2024, 12:18 PM
Our neighbor is moving and is selling his 2019 Yamaha Gas Golf Cart for $7500. Let me know if you want their contact info.

Will.S
09-04-2024, 06:07 AM
"under 500 hours could be a good buy". THANK YOU !!!!
Good to know as most carts have a 5 gallon gas tank. BUT the OP was using the term "mileage" in reference to odometer for "hours of usage" in buying a used cart. A early 2000s cart with under 500 hours could be a good buy!

dougjb
09-04-2024, 09:06 AM
Is there an easy way to determine the mileage or hours used on a golf cart?

biker1
09-04-2024, 09:19 AM
Some brands have an engine hour meter in the engine bay under the seat. Non-fleet Yamahas will typically have an engine hour meter on the lower part of the dashboard with the fuel gauge. Many carts have had an odometer added. Without those, you could approximate the hours if you know the year of the cart. 200 hours per year would represent fairly heavy usage. Ideally, the cart will be serviced according to the manufacturer’s recommendations. I would ask to see the service records for any used cart I was considering.

Is there an easy way to determine the mileage or hours used on a golf cart?

Will.S
09-18-2024, 03:50 AM
Here is an answer to my original question. Thanks.

Good to know as most carts have a 5 gallon gas tank. BUT the OP was using the term "mileage" in reference to odometer for "hours of usage" in buying a used cart. A early 2000s cart with under 500 hours could be a good buy!

Will.S
09-18-2024, 03:51 AM
Just the information I needed. Thank you !

Some brands have an engine hour meter in the engine bay under the seat. Non-fleet Yamahas will typically have an engine hour meter on the lower part of the dashboard with the fuel gauge. Many carts have had an odometer added. Without those, you could approximate the hours if you know the year of the cart. 200 hours per year would represent fairly heavy usage. Ideally, the cart will be serviced according to the manufacturer’s recommendations. I would ask to see the service records for any used cart I was considering.

Topspinmo
09-18-2024, 12:37 PM
Anyone buying a USED golf cart should be aware of a popular practice here in Village-Land........that is "jacking up" the accelerator limiter to increase the speed from the legal limit of 20 mph to 30, 40, even 50 mph. The drivers that do that are former hot rod teenagers that NEVER grew up. They beat up their golf cart and take turns at excessive speeds that is both dangerous to them (flipping) and hard on the vehicles rear end bearings. The engine probably smokes and needs a new ring job. But they put the speed advance control back to a normal 20 mph and put heavier oil in the engine. THEY THEY UNLOAD their beaten up LEMON golf cart,
--------So my warning is BUYER BEWARE. Make sure by talking to friends that the owner selling a used golf cart was never seen driving it over 20 MPH. Like I said -----BUYER BEWARE !!!!

No standard golf cart engine will come close to 50 MPH, some may come close to 40 with governor locked out. The speed limited by how much air engine can take in which usually limits the rpm’s before it blows up. Sure you can modify the air intake, gears, clutches, tire size but I bet less than. .000001 does that in villages. You probably heard of one guy the put motorcycle engine in his golf cart. Most golf carts with altered governor I’ve paced with my car hit maybe 32MPH and they usually have golf clubs on back of cart. Some electrics can come close to 40 especially par cars and stars that have high low switch. Par car was fastest golf cart I have witnessed in 10 years I’ve been here.

ejcain
09-20-2024, 07:02 AM
Will be looking for a used GAS CART in September.
I'd like to budget about $ 9,000. What mileage can I expect (or how many hours) should I expect a used cart in this budget to have ?

Thank. you. :bigbow:

Looks like I was not specific on my question. ONLY ASKING ABOUT MILES Maybe I should phrase something like..... How many miles are good for a used cart. 500 ? 3000? More? (I dont know how many miles a cart can be driven till dead)

In Dec. of 2016 I purchased a new 2017 Yamaha quiet tech cart. I currently have 29,620 miles & 1,708 hrs.