New Cart Rules???

[dewilson58]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

[asianthree]

So going back to pre pandemic rules?

[davefin]

Exception, Executive course with full golf cart path.

[tophcfa]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

It will be interesting to see if that makes any noticeable improvement in conditions over time? At least it should improve the pace of play since only two carts were supposed to leave the cart paths? Interestingly, what the starter told you is not reflected in the Golf Cart Policies link on the Golf The Villages web site?

[peachpit]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.
Will the old rules still apply, like only 90 degrees across the fairway?

[golfing eagles]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

Sounds like a "rogue" starter, or one that doesn't understand their own rules.

Directly from Golfthevillages.com:

"No more than two golf cars will be allowed when golfers share
the same reservation number and the same tee time.

No more than three golf cars will be allowed in any group."

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

People were rules lawyering and getting around the existing rule, by having everyone coordinate separate reservations together. So instead of a single group of 4, you had 4 singles with their own reservation at the same time. And then they could have 4 carts go out.

Because of this intentional circumvention of the rules, it sounds like maybe they had to change the rules. Once again, the few ruin it for the many.

[Indy-Guy]

I just went to golfthevillages.com below is what they are saying about golf cart policy. If they have changed their rules they have not updated their website yet. Normally that is the first place they change before they implement it at the courses. This states that the policy was last revised July 11, 2024.


No more than two golf cars will be allowed when golfers share
the same reservation number and the same tee time.

No more than three golf cars will be allowed in any group.

Exception: Only executive courses that have continuous
golf car path may allow up to four golf cars in a group with two
golf cars remaining on the golf car path at all times.

EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 1, 2023
(revised July 11, 2024)

[dewilson58]

Sounds like a "rogue" starter, or one that doesn't understand their own rules.

Directly from Golfthevillages.com:

"No more than two golf cars will be allowed when golfers share
the same reservation number and the same tee time.

No more than three golf cars will be allowed in any group."

Yep.
I know it's still posted on the web.
But, they are starting to warn people.
He said, it's fine this time........but probably not the next time.
We were three singles at Bonifay.

I asked another starter at the turn and he confirmed what the first starter said.
The second starter said it probably won't last long.
He said, when there are three carts the players are respectful and following the expectations.

:icon_hungry:

[dewilson58]

It will be interesting to see if that makes any noticeable improvement in conditions over time? At least it should improve the pace of play since only two carts were supposed to leave the cart paths? Interestingly, what the starter told you is not reflected in the Golf Cart Policies link on the Golf The Villages web site?

I assume no impact on conditions.

I actually think it will slow play.
The "third" cart jus stays in the rough, not the path.

:beer3:

[golfing eagles]

Yep.
I know it's still posted on the web.
But, they are starting to warn people.
He said, it's fine this time........but probably not the next time.
We were three singles at Bonifay.

I asked another starter at the turn and he confirmed what the first starter said.
The second starter said it probably won't last long.
He said, when there are three carts the players are respectful and following the expectations.

:icon_hungry:

I don't doubt you; I just wonder if the starter knew what he was talking about. After all, the poster above was correct---it usually appears on the web site first, and if not there's usually a sign posted at the starter shack. But anything's possible.

As far as three carts respecting the rules goes, :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I can't count the number of times all 3 are in the fairway. What's worse, when holes are cart path only due to wet conditions, I see 3 carts in the fairway as well. As soon as the ambassador has passed by, the mice will play

[jbsnarkin]

New rules that aren’t posted are telling you where you can leave your cart once you are forced to double up on executive courses.

[FredMitchell]

Wait! I always thought that golf was a nice walk spoiled. Did that mean it was spoiled by golf carts?

[FredMitchell]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

Certainly the ride is not required. Make a deal with the driver. He doesn't smoke, or you walk. At least you don't need to carry the bag. If you are the driver, he smokes only while walking.

If you can't walk 18 holes, maybe it is time for a new sport. Water volleyball, pickleball, shuffleboard, cornhole. Or bridge, pool, etc.

[Mrmean58]

I assume no impact on conditions.

I actually think it will slow play.
The "third" cart jus stays in the rough, not the path.

:beer3:
Too many times you see all three carts out in the fairway at the same time. In the event of a fourth reservation, one of the carts must remain on the cart path at all times, but rarely does.

[dewilson58]

Certainly the ride is not required. Make a deal with the driver. He doesn't smoke, or you walk. At least you don't need to carry the bag. If you are the driver, he smokes only while walking.

If you can't walk 18 holes, maybe it is time for a new sport. Water volleyball, pickleball, shuffleboard, cornhole. Or bridge, pool, etc.

Freddy, you're not that clueless R U???

This is a retirement community with the average well over 70.

(& old walkers will create six hour rounds)

:mornincoffee:

[jminnis]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

I am always a single, so I have run into this a couple of times. The first time, I was teamed up with three players. When I was told to leave my cart and put my clubs on the stranger's cart I refused. We played 19 holes (Hacienda) with three carts and no complaints. The second time I played Hacienda, the starter insisted I ride with the single in a threesome I was joined with. The guy was a cigar smoker and had a terrible cough. Sure enough, I caught a cold and was sick for a week. Not good. The optics of four carts at the tee or green is not good, but does that really hurt the fairways? A cart has to drive up to each ball eventually. The 90-degree rule is a good way of preventing everyone driving onto the fairway at the same spot, leaving a worn path....

[KenLee100]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

It depends on the starter.
The rules are tighter with some female starters. Choose your course wisely.
If the rule is cart path only, why does it matter?

[KJ Dave]

Well, it might help after all the “visitors” leave all the courses destroyed from way over usage. When they leave, residents are left with few open courses for weeks/ months because of ten bazillion divots and tire trails. It’s akin to third world border invaders coming here, taking all they can get, use up all the resources then retreat to their ****holes.

[Bogie Shooter]

Well, it might help after all the “visitors” leave all the courses destroyed from way over usage. When they leave, residents are left with few open courses for weeks/ months because of ten bazillion divots and tire trails. It’s akin to third world border invaders coming here, taking all they can get, use up all the resources then retreat to their ****holes.

Wow!

[tophcfa]

Freddy, you're not that clueless R U???

This is a retirement community with the average well over 70.

(& old walkers will create six hour rounds)

:mornincoffee:

You beat me to it Dewi, clueless. How long would it take a foursome with knee and hip replacements to walk from the 9th green at Laurel Valley to the first t box at Riley Grove? The ambassadors would have to start giving out pain medications : )

[CybrSage]

Do golfers really each want their own cart instead of being with a friend? Why is that?
One cart for 2 people I understand, a cart can only carry two sets of clubs.
I ask those who do golf because I do not golf and am looking to be informed.

[CybrSage]

I am always a single, so I have run into this a couple of times. The first time, I was teamed up with three players. When I was told to leave my cart and put my clubs on the stranger's cart I refused. We played 19 holes (Hacienda) with three carts and no complaints. The second time I played Hacienda, the starter insisted I ride with the single in a threesome I was joined with. The guy was a cigar smoker and had a terrible cough. Sure enough, I caught a cold and was sick for a week. Not good. The optics of four carts at the tee or green is not good, but does that really hurt the fairways? A cart has to drive up to each ball eventually. The 90-degree rule is a good way of preventing everyone driving onto the fairway at the same spot, leaving a worn path....

This does not sound right. Why did you not sit with a nonsmoker or say that two smokers need to team up?
Smokers would see the logic in it and the starter would as well.

[dewilson58]

Do golfers really each want their own cart instead of being with a friend? Why is that?
One cart for 2 people I understand, a cart can only carry two sets of clubs.
I ask those who do golf because I do not golf and am looking to be informed.

Not always a friend.

Can be a complete stranger.

Can be someone you golf with and is not a friend.

If a friend, may not like their habits, smell, conversation, etc.

:ho:

[LeRoySmith]

You beat me to it Dewi, clueless. How long would it take a foursome with knee and hip replacements to walk from the 9th green at Laurel Valley to the first t box at Riley Grove? The ambassadors would have to start giving out pain medications : )

If they start passing out happy pills I'll take up golf.

[golfing eagles]

I am always a single, so I have run into this a couple of times. The first time, I was teamed up with three players. When I was told to leave my cart and put my clubs on the stranger's cart I refused. We played 19 holes (Hacienda) with three carts and no complaints. The second time I played Hacienda, the starter insisted I ride with the single in a threesome I was joined with. The guy was a cigar smoker and had a terrible cough. Sure enough, I caught a cold and was sick for a week. Not good. The optics of four carts at the tee or green is not good, but does that really hurt the fairways? A cart has to drive up to each ball eventually. The 90-degree rule is a good way of preventing everyone driving onto the fairway at the same spot, leaving a worn path....

No, each cart DOES NOT get to drive up to their ball "eventually". The third cart gets to WALK up to his ball, the cart stays in the rough or on the cart path. That 3rd cart has to stay off the fairway for THE ENTIRE HOLE, not switch off. That's what save wear and tear on the fairways.

[Timothyimitchell]

Just keep them on the path. No fairways

[BrianL99]

No, each cart DOES NOT get to drive up to their ball "eventually". The third cart gets to WALK up to his ball, the cart stays in the rough or on the cart path. That 3rd cart has to stay off the fairway for THE ENTIRE HOLE, not switch off. That's what save wear and tear on the fairways.

That is the way the rule is supposed to be enforced, but the only course I know who actually tries to adhere to that standard, is Palmer.

All the other (Championship) courses, seem to allow "2 carts on the fairway at one time", which of course is nonsense and doesn't really meet the intended goal.

One a few occasions at Palmer, I've said ... "OK, you stay on the path on odd # holes, I'll stay on the path on the even #'d holes". The guys looked at me like I was speaking a foreign language.

Personally, I'd be fine if all the Championship courses were "Cart Path Only", but I doubt we'd ever see that happen. If they tried it, 99% of the golfers would have a "Handicap Permit" within a week.

Quite honestly, I've never figured out how it's fun to jump out of cart, hit the ball100 yards, get back in the cart and do it all over again ... for 4 hours.

[DrHitch]

Do golfers really each want their own cart instead of being with a friend?

As an avid golfer, I have to agree with your comment... Whether it's riding with a friend that you have made a reservation with or a complete stranger that you met at the starter shack, why not hitch a ride?

[dewilson58]

As an avid golfer, I have to agree with your comment... Whether it's riding with a friend that you have made a reservation with or a complete stranger that you met at the starter shack, why not hitch a ride?

Not all of us are DrHitch.

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[dewilson58]

Well, this has been enjoyable and entertaining.

The purpose was to see if anyone else has heard this rule is coming.

I'm pretty sure it's coming.................they are jus giving fair warning to all tri-carts.

The website will be updated when effective.

:welcome:

[CarlR33]

Not always a friend.

Can be a complete stranger.

Can be someone you golf with and is not a friend.

If a friend, may not like their habits, smell, conversation, etc.

:ho:Thought that is why we all moved here, LOL

[justjim]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

Maybe a no smoking rule coming next?

[FredMitchell]

You beat me to it Dewi, clueless. How long would it take a foursome with knee and hip replacements to walk from the 9th green at Laurel Valley to the first t box at Riley Grove? The ambassadors would have to start giving out pain medications : )

Neither of you should be insulting in this forum.

I am over 70 with two replaced knees. I generally play 2+ hours of pickleball each day. I have played as much as 5. A decent percentage of pickleball players here have the tell-tale knee replacement scar or scars. I know players who have had at least one hip replaced also playing two hours per day. Most of these players are quite mobile.

You have shorter course options. If you can't walk the ones that you play now, even without having to carry your bag, maybe it is time to start playing shorter courses.

I have not yet restarted playing golf, but it sure sucked when I did play, to be walking and waiting behind even 2 cart four ball matches. Walking straight to your ball is usually faster than riding to someone else's ball, then your ball.

[golfing eagles]

.......I have not yet restarted playing golf, but it sure sucked when I did play, to be walking and waiting behind even 2 cart four ball matches. Walking straight to your ball is usually faster than riding to someone else's ball, then your ball.

But more than made up for by riding the distances between greens and the next tee, and in some cases much quicker (Larel to Riley, Osprey to Egret, Stirrup to Tally and others). But since 90% of the time you end up waiting for the "slow" group ahead of you, riding to 2 balls makes no difference whatsoever.

[dewilson58]

Neither of you should be insulting in this forum.

I am over 70 with two replaced knees. I generally play 2+ hours of pickleball each day. I have played as much as 5. A decent percentage of pickleball players here have the tell-tale knee replacement scar or scars. I know players who have had at least one hip replaced also playing two hours per day. Most of these players are quite mobile.

You have shorter course options. If you can't walk the ones that you play now, even without having to carry your bag, maybe it is time to start playing shorter courses.

I have not yet restarted playing golf, but it sure sucked when I did play, to be walking and waiting behind even 2 cart four ball matches. Walking straight to your ball is usually faster than riding to someone else's ball, then your ball.

:what:

:ohdear:

[terryf484]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

Maybe if they spent as much on caring about the maintenance of the courses as they do about carts, the courses would be in better shape. Played Sweetgum Wednesday, greens are not in very good shape for this time of year and on the par 4, whoever was moving the green, left the mower down as they came off the front of green and scalped the front approach to the green for about ten feet. Its a mess.

[BrianL99]

one hip replaced also playing two hours per day. Most of these players are quite mobile.

You have shorter course options. If you can't walk the ones that you play now, even without having to carry your bag, maybe it is time to start playing shorter courses.

I have not yet restarted playing golf, but it sure sucked when I did play, to be walking and waiting behind even 2 cart four ball matches. Walking straight to your ball is usually faster than riding to someone else's ball, then your ball.

But more than made up for by riding the distances between greens and the next tee, and in some cases much quicker (Larel to Riley, Osprey to Egret, Stirrup to Tally and others). But since 90% of the time you end up waiting for the "slow" group ahead of you, riding to 2 balls makes no difference whatsoever.

We need to come up with a new sport name, that distinguishes between playing an Executive Course and playing Championship courses. Playing a Championship course is generally "playing golf" ... I'm not sure what's going on with Executive courses, but it's not "golf".

There's no practical way to walk the majority of Championship courses. Championship golf in TV was designed to be played in carts. A foursome walking most any Championship course, assuming they survive, would be on the course for close to 5 hours. It's simple math, based on the distance from Greens to Tees and between 9's.

I don't have much experience with the Execs, but it seems that eliminating carts completely on those courses, would be the best thing TV could do, to improve conditions, reduce demand and keep residents healthier.

From now on, if I make a post regarding playing or conditions on Championship courses, I'm going to use the word "GOLF", if referring to play on Executive courses, it will be "*golf*". It's just not the same game and comparing them, is like comparing Pickleball to Tennis.

[Bilyclub]

Maybe a no smoking rule coming next?


No mores butts laying around the tee boxes ?

[Bay Kid]

No mores butts laying around the tee boxes ?

Just like throwing out trash....

[golfing eagles]

No mores butts laying around the tee boxes ?

BUT (pun intended)....that would only leave "ifs" and "ands":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

We need to come up with a new sport name, that distinguishes between playing an Executive Course and playing Championship courses. Playing a Championship course is generally "playing golf" ... I'm not sure what's going on with Executive courses, but it's not "golf".

There's no practical way to walk the majority of Championship courses. Championship golf in TV was designed to be played in carts. A foursome walking most any Championship course, assuming they survive, would be on the course for close to 5 hours. It's simple math, based on the distance from Greens to Tees and between 9's.

I don't have much experience with the Execs, but it seems that eliminating carts completely on those courses, would be the best thing TV could do, to improve conditions, reduce demand and keep residents healthier.

From now on, if I make a post regarding playing or conditions on Championship courses, I'm going to use the word "GOLF", if referring to play on Executive courses, it will be "*golf*". It's just not the same game and comparing them, is like comparing Pickleball to Tennis.

I like it-----now if only we could tie playing into handicap like pickleball and softball does with ratings........

[CybrSage]

Glad I never took up golf. Being looked down upon for learning from the beginning is not my idea of fun.

Is elitism and mocking those who are new taught at advanced training level classes or does it come about naturally after playing a while?

[Marine1974]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.
Great for improving golf course conditions.

[Marine1974]

Glad I never took up golf. Being looked down upon for learning from the beginning is not my idea of fun.

Is elitism and mocking those who are new taught at advanced training level classes or does it come about naturally after playing a while?
Unless your playing amateur tournament golf which if handicapped making it fair , it really is you against the course.
Don’t pay attention to what others are doing concentrate on your own game .

[tophcfa]

Great for improving golf course conditions.

Or one less excuse if the conditions don’t improve, especially now that the El Niño weather pattern has dissipated?

[golfing eagles]

Glad I never took up golf. Being looked down upon for learning from the beginning is not my idea of fun.

Is elitism and mocking those who are new taught at advanced training level classes or does it come about naturally after playing a while?

Nobody is doing that. Truly good golfers NEVER make "fun" of beginners. It is a great game, the game of a lifetime. That being said, there is a time and a place for everything. Somebody who picked up a tennis racquet for the first time should not be permitted to enter Wimbledon or the French Open. The Villages pickleball and softball leagues rate players to put them in the proper field. A beginner golfer should not be teeing it up at Bethpage Black or Augusta National. That is reality.

To use some hyperbole, imaging a beginner at the Masters. That person would be a total disruption to the flow of the tournament, not to mention a danger to the spectators. On a smaller scale, imagine a beginner playing the black tees at Tierra or Glenview. That person would be slow, irritating and dangerous to most of the other golfers, and ruin their day. Yet, unlike pickleball and softball, there is no filter---anyone can pay their greens fee and play wherever and whenever they want, no matter how much it affects everyone else.

Yes, we all encourage people to take up golf and enjoy the game. But you can't become even an average player overnight. Go to good golf school, take the new to golf school lessons, practice on the range and start on exec courses. You'll enjoy the game much more if you attain some minimal level of skill and not by getting frustrated by whiffs and 10 yard drives. Like most things in life, doing it the right way pays off in the end.

Full disclosure: I've been playing 54 years and wouldn't score very well at Augusta National either.

[justjim]

Nobody is doing that. Truly good golfers NEVER make "fun" of beginners. It is a great game, the game of a lifetime. That being said, there is a time and a place for everything. Somebody who picked up a tennis racquet for the first time should not be permitted to enter Wimbledon or the French Open. The Villages pickleball and softball leagues rate players to put them in the proper field. A beginner golfer should not be teeing it up at Bethpage Black or Augusta National. That is reality.

To use some hyperbole, imaging a beginner at the Masters. That person would be a total disruption to the flow of the tournament, not to mention a danger to the spectators. On a smaller scale, imagine a beginner playing the black tees at Tierra or Glenview. That person would be slow, irritating and dangerous to most of the other golfers, and ruin their day. Yet, unlike pickleball and softball, there is no filter---anyone can pay their greens fee and play wherever and whenever they want, no matter how much it affects everyone else.

Yes, we all encourage people to take up golf and enjoy the game. But you can't become even an average player overnight. Go to good golf school, take the new to golf school lessons, practice on the range and start on exec courses. You'll enjoy the game much more if you attain some minimal level of skill and not by getting frustrated by whiffs and 10 yard drives. Like most things in life, doing it the right way pays off in the end.

Full disclosure: I've been playing 54 years and wouldn't score very well at Augusta National either.

Nice post…. I couldn’t agree with you more regarding the great game of golf. I too have been playing for years. Although not “competitive” (I use that term loosely) I still enjoy playing for exercise and fun. You can tell a lot about a person by just playing a round or two of golf with them. Fore.

[BrianL99]

I like it-----now if only we could tie playing into handicap like pickleball and softball does with ratings........

That would be awesome!

I wouldn't like a chance to "2 cart rule", but I could live with it, if I didn't stuck with some schmo, shooting 105 from the Green Tees.

[BrianL99]

Nobody is doing that. Truly good golfers NEVER make "fun" of beginners. It is a great game, the game of a lifetime. That being said, there is a time and a place for everything. Somebody who picked up a tennis racquet for the first time should not be permitted to enter Wimbledon or the French Open. The Villages pickleball and softball leagues rate players to put them in the proper field. A beginner golfer should not be teeing it up at Bethpage Black or Augusta National. That is reality.

To use some hyperbole, imaging a beginner at the Masters. That person would be a total disruption to the flow of the tournament, not to mention a danger to the spectators. On a smaller scale, imagine a beginner playing the black tees at Tierra or Glenview. That person would be slow, irritating and dangerous to most of the other golfers, and ruin their day. Yet, unlike pickleball and softball, there is no filter---anyone can pay their greens fee and play wherever and whenever they want, no matter how much it affects everyone else.

Yes, we all encourage people to take up golf and enjoy the game. But you can't become even an average player overnight. Go to good golf school, take the new to golf school lessons, practice on the range and start on exec courses. You'll enjoy the game much more if you attain some minimal level of skill and not by getting frustrated by whiffs and 10 yard drives. Like most things in life, doing it the right way pays off in the end.

Full disclosure: I've been playing 54 years and wouldn't score very well at Augusta National either.


Should be required reading, for everyone who plays golf. Good job and all true.

[golfing eagles]

Should be required reading, for everyone who plays golf. Good job and all true.

Thank you

[DonH57]

It will be interesting to see if that makes any noticeable improvement in conditions over time? At least it should improve the pace of play since only two carts were supposed to leave the cart paths? Interestingly, what the starter told you is not reflected in the Golf Cart Policies link on the Golf The Villages web site?

It's interesting you say that. I personally don't think the conditions will improve with this change. The pace of play slows down with only 2 carts zig zagging back and forth up the par 4 and par 5 fairways multiple times and guys chit chatting like two old hens. If the carts, no matter how many, stay to the 90 degree rule everyone could get done quicker. Another side note. As I observed yesterday and on other days maintenance equipment rolling all over wet areas, tee boxes, bunkers and even the greens.

[dewilson58]

It's interesting you say that. I personally don't think the conditions will improve with this change. The pace of play slows down with only 2 carts zig zagging back and forth up the par 4 and par 5 fairways multiple times and guys chit chatting like two old hens. If the carts, no matter how many, stay to the 90 degree rule everyone could get done quicker. Another side note. As I observed yesterday and on other days maintenance equipment rolling all over wet areas, tee boxes, bunkers and even the greens.

Bingo

[yankygrl]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

Not true…I called tee time office - it is no more then 2 carts per reservation so you don’t have to pair up with someone you don’t know. AND not all starters are enforcing the rule, golfed today had a foursome and we took 3 carts and 1 walked. We have been playing together for many years so we could have paired up if instructed to do so.

[dewilson58]

Not true…I called tee time office - it is no more then 2 carts per reservation so you don’t have to pair up with someone you don’t know. AND not all starters are enforcing the rule, golfed today had a foursome and we took 3 carts and 1 walked. We have been playing together for many years so we could have paired up if instructed to do so.

Agree, current rule.

BUT............did you ask if the rule is changing??
(that's the real question of the thread)
Thanks for calling.

[FloridaGuy66]

Do golfers really each want their own cart instead of being with a friend? Why is that?
One cart for 2 people I understand, a cart can only carry two sets of clubs.
I ask those who do golf because I do not golf and am looking to be informed.

I often book a tee-off as a single golfer, so I'm usually playing with 2-3 other people that I don't know. A handful of times the starter insisted that we had to take 2 carts maximum. I've had at least a few of those times where I was stuck riding with strangers where much of the time between shots was listening to them rant about politics, religion or complaining about the <insert minority here>.

Much more relaxing to just play using my own cart.

[Snakster66]

I often book a tee-off as a single golfer, so I'm usually playing with 2-3 other people that I don't know. A handful of times the starter insisted that we had to take 2 carts maximum. I've had at least a few of those times where I was stuck riding with strangers where much of the time between shots was listening to them rant about politics, religion or complaining about the <insert minority here>.

Much more relaxing to just play using my own cart.

If we ever get paired up, you have my word I will do none of those things. You MAY hear me complain that I haven't made a putt since the late 20th century. At least it's starting to feel that way.

[Marathon Man]

I often book a tee-off as a single golfer, so I'm usually playing with 2-3 other people that I don't know. A handful of times the starter insisted that we had to take 2 carts maximum. I've had at least a few of those times where I was stuck riding with strangers where much of the time between shots was listening to them rant about politics, religion or complaining about the <insert minority here>.

Much more relaxing to just play using my own cart.

What about the other times? Pleasant conversations with possibility of making a new friend perhaps?

[dewilson58]

Paul Harvey, The Rest of the Story.

No change to the riding rule.

I returned to the original course after a month and a half.
Same starter.
He clarified what he said, or what I heard.

He mentioned the last time we met, he was explaining a couple violators were being called out and TV Admin were trying to make corrections.

The current posted rules are still valid.

:thumbup:

[BrianL99]

Paul Harvey, The Rest of the Story.

No change to the riding rule.

I returned to the original course after a month and a half.
Same starter.
He clarified what he said, or what I heard.

He mentioned the last time we met, he was explaining a couple violators were being called out and TV Admin were trying to make corrections.

The current posted rules are still valid.

:thumbup:

In other words, 2 carts only, unless there's another reservation?


Thank you for the update.

[DARFAP]

Will the old rules still apply, like only 90 degrees across the fairway?
The 90 degree rule is always in effect, at any golf course. Standard rule.

[kkingston57]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

In meantime at Hacienda, no place to park golf carts around 12:00 PM and that was on a day when only 18 holes were open. Most of carts were parked there due to fact that golfers take cart to course and leave it at clubhouse when they ride with another person.

[Pairadocs]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.

Nope, won't do it. Hubby does not play. I am always happy to share with another female, but have been ordered many times to either get into cart with a male or female who was already smoking in the starting line, or chose not to play. I always chose to go home and just take the "hit" on points. Just too uncomfortable a way to play a round and enjoy a relaxed afternoon and make new friends.

[Two Bills]

BUT (pun intended)....that would only leave "ifs" and "ands":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

What!

No "maybe's?":shrug:

[Two Bills]

Glad I never took up golf. Being looked down upon for learning from the beginning is not my idea of fun.

Is elitism and mocking those who are new taught at advanced training level classes or does it come about naturally after playing a while?

Sorry. Can't agree.
I have played golf for many years.
Bad golf extremely well, and good golf badly. Depends what I turn up as on the day.
All golfers, good or bad, have the days when they wished they had gone fishing instead, and days when you wish you were playing a straight 36 holes.
I have experienced extreme sympathy, outright, and total derision from my mates, (Rules of Golf 2359 sec. p37x. [Allowed when playing for money] ) even hysterical laughter, but never a hint of being looked down upon.
The golfing Gods are evil, and you never know when they will strike, and select you as their 'victim of the day!'
If only politics were as kind and understanding as golfers!:icon_wink:

[BPRICE1234]

Starter said, new rule....absolutely no more than 2 carts. No different reservation exceptions.

Ride with strangers who smoke.
I would absolutely refuse to ride with a smoker. I am mildly disabled with breathing issues. I don't look sick until I start coughing and can't stop.

I also refuse to get a handicap permit because I don't want to be an easy victim.

[Mortal1]

We need to come up with a new sport name, that distinguishes between playing an Executive Course and playing Championship courses. Playing a Championship course is generally "playing golf" ... I'm not sure what's going on with Executive courses, but it's not "golf".

There's no practical way to walk the majority of Championship courses. Championship golf in TV was designed to be played in carts. A foursome walking most any Championship course, assuming they survive, would be on the course for close to 5 hours. It's simple math, based on the distance from Greens to Tees and between 9's.

I don't have much experience with the Execs, but it seems that eliminating carts completely on those courses, would be the best thing TV could do, to improve conditions, reduce demand and keep residents healthier.

From now on, if I make a post regarding playing or conditions on Championship courses, I'm going to use the word "GOLF", if referring to play on Executive courses, it will be "*golf*". It's just not the same game and comparing them, is like comparing Pickleball to Tennis.

In executive golf you use the same equipment and it's played the same way. In pickle ball the racket is NOT like tennis...the pickle ball is NOT like the tennis ball

Need a new comparison.

[LeRoySmith]

In executive golf you use the same equipment and it's played the same way. In pickle ball the racket is NOT like tennis...the pickle ball is NOT like the tennis ball

Need a new comparison.


You are correct. Others are wrong.

[tophcfa]

In meantime at Hacienda, no place to park golf carts around 12:00 PM and that was on a day when only 18 holes were open. Most of carts were parked there due to fact that golfers take cart to course and leave it at clubhouse when they ride with another person.

But the construction of Villas is coming along rapidly where the much larger parking lot, with ample space, used to be.

[tophcfa]

I don't have much experience with the Execs, but it seems that eliminating carts completely on those courses, would be the best thing TV could do, to improve conditions, reduce demand and keep residents healthier.

The Villages is a retirement community for senior citizens. Many residents have knee and or hip replacements and/or are in their final years. Many residents simply can’t walk the courses, but that shouldn’t mean they can no longer play. It would be healthier for many residents to play using a cart than to not play at all. Many residents play the Championship courses until they reach a point in their life where those courses become too challenging and then transition to the Executives. Others play the Championship courses when the slow season rates are in effect and then can only afford to play the Executives during busy season. Plus, the trail fees paid to ride the Executives are part of the budget used to maintain those courses. And don’t forget another important factor, pace of play. The use of carts will never be eliminated on the Executives.

[tophcfa]

Glad I never took up golf. Being looked down upon for learning from the beginning is not my idea of fun.

Is elitism and mocking those who are new taught at advanced training level classes or does it come about naturally after playing a while?

I don’t care if I’m playing behind Scottie Scheffler or someone shooting a 120. As long as whoever it is keeps up with the group in front of them, it’s all good.

[Snakster66]

I don’t care if I’m playing behind Scottie Scheffler or someone shooting a 120. As long as whoever it is keeps up with the group in front of them, it’s all good.

This. 100% this.

[FloridaGuy66]

I don't have much experience with the Execs, but it seems that eliminating carts completely on those courses, would be the best thing TV could do, to improve conditions, reduce demand and keep residents healthier.


I'm still trying to figure out how making people golf less frequently will make them "healthier". I golf with a group that plays 3-4 rounds per week, usually 3 execs with cart and 1 pitch n putt where walking is mandatory. It's very doubtful that our full group could handle walking 3 execs plus the 1 pitch n putt every week due to various health issues. By my estimate that would be over 6 miles of walking per week just on the golf course.

Banning carts would just mean less golf and more puttering around the house or sitting by the pool.

[GoldenBoy]

We need to come up with a new sport name, that distinguishes between playing an Executive Course and playing Championship courses. Playing a Championship course is generally "playing golf" ... I'm not sure what's going on with Executive courses, but it's not "golf".

There's no practical way to walk the majority of Championship courses. Championship golf in TV was designed to be played in carts. A foursome walking most any Championship course, assuming they survive, would be on the course for close to 5 hours. It's simple math, based on the distance from Greens to Tees and between 9's.

I don't have much experience with the Execs, but it seems that eliminating carts completely on those courses, would be the best thing TV could do, to improve conditions, reduce demand and keep residents healthier.

From now on, if I make a post regarding playing or conditions on Championship courses, I'm going to use the word "GOLF", if referring to play on Executive courses, it will be "*golf*". It's just not the same game and comparing them, is like comparing Pickleball to Tennis.

When and where did you get your Green Jacket?