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Caymus
09-11-2024, 02:34 AM
The link article is basically "click bait", but it's still good to know I beat the original odds.:laugh:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/how-long-you-were-expected-to-live-the-year-you-were-born/ss-AA1ayPgi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=583734e33cbe4608a55ee9e6e8964fd8&ei=21#image=1

Also, probably why Social Security is having issues.

Two Bills
09-11-2024, 03:53 AM
According to the chart, I am six Olympic Games past my 'use by date.'

Mrprez
09-11-2024, 04:33 AM
Skip the clickbait:

NCHS Data Visualization Gallery - Mortality Trends in the United States (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data-visualization/mortality-trends/)

ThirdOfFive
09-11-2024, 06:21 AM
Well, according to the data, a guy born in 1948 could expect to live about 66 years. Like I tell my wife, I've already outlived my warranty by ten years.

ElDiabloJoe
09-11-2024, 08:11 AM
The link article is basically "click bait", but it's still good to know I beat the original odds.:laugh:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/how-long-you-were-expected-to-live-the-year-you-were-born/ss-AA1ayPgi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=583734e33cbe4608a55ee9e6e8964fd8&ei=21#image=1

Also, probably why Social Security is having issues.

Life expectancy was 70.5 the year I was born. I am still 15 years from knowing if I will meet that date or not. I'd rather not know and stay 15 years away from that age :)

mrf6969
09-11-2024, 11:50 AM
Life expectancy was 79 a hand full of years ago. It has dropped now to an average of 76. This will be getting worse if you don't do something about it. Listen to Robert Kennedy as he is spot on with this subject.
The poor quality of food we eat and sedentary lifestyle many live will cause many to die earlier.
It is amazing how many people have to monitor their A1C.

fdpaq0580
09-11-2024, 12:04 PM
Dead man walking here. Not really sure if I should be happy or sad when I wake up in the morning. Then I see my wife. HAPPY! 🥰😍🥰

Pugchief
09-11-2024, 12:22 PM
Life expectancy was 79 a hand full of years ago. It has dropped now to an average of 76. This will be getting worse if you don't do something about it. Listen to Robert Kennedy as he is spot on with this subject.
The poor quality of food we eat and sedentary lifestyle many live will cause many to die earlier.
It is amazing how many people have to monitor their A1C.

-Part of the drop is due to Covid's one time effect.
-You are correct about the food supply in the US being garbage bordering on poison, and the epidemic of type 2 diabetes.
-If you live in TV and are sedentary, no one can help you.

fdpaq0580
09-11-2024, 12:33 PM
-Part of the drop is due to Covid's one time effect.
-You are correct about the food supply in the US being garbage bordering on poison, and the epidemic of type 2 diabetes.
-If you live in TV and are sedentary, no one can help you.

Self-help! Get up and move, while you still can. I need to take my own advice, seriously! 🤔😒😬

Dusty_Star
09-11-2024, 01:04 PM
I haven't hit my 'game over' number yet, so who knows if they were right, all those many years ago?

manaboutown
09-11-2024, 02:11 PM
I am way out of warranty!

ElDiabloJoe
09-11-2024, 02:14 PM
When my mother was born (1929), life expectancy was 57.1 years. 12 years ago, a Dr. told her if she didn't have chest-cracked-open heart surgery, she would be dead in a year, maybe 2. She opted to not have the surgery, didn't want to spend a year recovering.

She will be 95 in eight weeks.

My dad was born in 1928, with a then-life expectancy of 56.8. He lived 10 weeks shy of his 90th. His health habits were far from the best - fairly sedentary his entire life and went from drinking coffee in the morning to wine in the evening with very little water ever. He even had open-stomach surgery for ulcers, back in the day before they realized an antibiotic could fix them.

Not too shabby.

I've never had a single childhood disease. Occasional cold, flu, or a sinus infection, but never had mumps, measles, mono, chickenpox, covid or anything else like that. Multiple surgeries for broken bones, ligaments, etc though.

This tells me to not put a lot of stock in NCHS data charts I guess.

manaboutown
09-11-2024, 03:05 PM
Well, my father, born in 1898, drank bourbon and beer. After he retired he drank a fruit juice glass of Jim Beam, the old fashioned 4 oz - I think - size at ten, two and four, just like stated in the Dr. Pepper ad. He smoked a pipe (Sir Walter Raleigh in the big can), never cigarettes, until he developed emphysema. At breakfast he had prunes, toast with butter and jam, eggs, bacon and oatmeal with cream from the top of the unhomogenized bottles of milk delivered to us. I never saw him exercise but he worked in the yard on weekends. He had the Spanish Flu in 1918, lived through both world wars and the Great Depression. He developed Parkinson's disease and lived with it for years. He almost made 94 before he passed away. My mother predeceased him by five years at her age of 81 and I don't believe he wanted to live another day after she died, but he did. She suffered through rheumatic fever as a child which had affected her heart.

You just never know...

MplsPete
09-11-2024, 03:13 PM
The title of the original link is "How Long You Were Expected to Live the Year You Were Born."

I get more consolation from the tables that tell, how much longer can I expect to live? The Social Security website has a basic calculator, based solely on current age. Other calculators can also figure in your health, habits, and genetics.

It is all about probabilty though. For example, your doctor may say, if you take this medicine for your high blood pressure, you will live longer. Accurately, what he should say is, you will probably live longer. You might still get hit by a bus, leaving the doctor's office. Of course, you should always bet on the probable outcome.

Dusty_Star
09-11-2024, 04:04 PM
When my mother was born (1929), life expectancy was 57.1 years. 12 years ago, a Dr. told her if she didn't have chest-cracked-open heart surgery, she would be dead in a year, maybe 2. She opted to not have the surgery, didn't want to spend a year recovering.

She will be 95 in eight weeks.

My dad was born in 1928, with a then-life expectancy of 56.8. He lived 10 weeks shy of his 90th. His health habits were far from the best - fairly sedentary his entire life and went from drinking coffee in the morning to wine in the evening with very little water ever. He even had open-stomach surgery for ulcers, back in the day before they realized an antibiotic could fix them.

Not too shabby.

I've never had a single childhood disease. Occasional cold, flu, or a sinus infection, but never had mumps, measles, mono, chickenpox, covid or anything else like that. Multiple surgeries for broken bones, ligaments, etc though.

This tells me to not put a lot of stock in NCHS data charts I guess.

BRAVO :bigbow: & I mean it sincerely. I also come from pretty healthy, long lived stock. (We're talking both Grams hit the big 3 digit number). Best wishes to your Mom.

Cliff Fr
09-12-2024, 07:31 AM
The link article is basically "click bait", but it's still good to know I beat the original odds.:laugh:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/how-long-you-were-expected-to-live-the-year-you-were-born/ss-AA1ayPgi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=583734e33cbe4608a55ee9e6e8964fd8&ei=21#image=1

Also, probably why Social Security is having issues.

I believe a lot of it has to do with genetics. If your parents lived a long time you are more likely to also.

nn0wheremann
09-12-2024, 08:30 AM
The link article is basically "click bait", but it's still good to know I beat the original odds.:laugh:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/how-long-you-were-expected-to-live-the-year-you-were-born/ss-AA1ayPgi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=583734e33cbe4608a55ee9e6e8964fd8&ei=21#image=1

Also, probably why Social Security is having issues.
Life expectancy at birth is affected by infant mortality, which has dropped significantly as time has progressed.
Social Security’s financing issues are the result of failure to adjust FICA rates in the 1990s, and subsequent years. In 2000 the Social Security trust funds were so well funded they were on a track to own the entire US national debt by 2010. Then 9/11 happened, the War On Terror spending, with no taxes to pay for it, happened, and the baby bust of the mid 1990s continued and accelerated. Bad decisions and grim statistics.

kendi
09-12-2024, 08:39 AM
I come from a family of longevity. Into the 90’s and even 2 mos shy of 100 for one grandparent. I always thought the longer one lived the better. But now life is not about longevity and more about quality which includes healthy contributions to society. Life is good, family and friends are great and being with them is tops but we all will die one day. No need to fret as to when. After all, for anyone who is a believer shouldn’t there be at least a tiny part of us looking forward to our earthly death?

lawgolfer
09-12-2024, 09:13 AM
The link article is basically "click bait", but it's still good to know I beat the original odds.:laugh:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/how-long-you-were-expected-to-live-the-year-you-were-born/ss-AA1ayPgi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=583734e33cbe4608a55ee9e6e8964fd8&ei=21#image=1

Also, probably why Social Security is having issues.

The datasets at the site in the link are difficult to use and can lead to a lot of misunderstanding as most of the data is for "death rates" which are the data for the expected deaths in each year's age group per 100,000 people.

If you hunt through the link, you'll find a "life expectancy" table for sex and race by year of birth. As an example, I was born in 1944. Our son was born in 1975 and, in his year of birth, he had five years of expected additional life compared to mine when I was born. These expected additional years continued to increase in each successive year up to "covid", due to factors such as greater access to health care, improvement in medicine, vaccinations, safer automobiles, and, more importantly, the dramatic reduction in smoking.

What is more interesting, and what I can't find in the cited link, is a dataset which shows the increase in additional years of life for each group by birth years. Put another way, for the group born in each year, their additional years of expected life did not remain constant but steadily increased from what it was in their year of birth. This was due to the removal of people in the group who did of childhood diseases, military service etc. as well as the factors noted in the last paragraph such as better health care, reduced smoking, and safer automobiles. This increase continued until "covid" resulted in a small reduction. This means that the annual increase in each year's additional years of life will show a significant increase in the coming years as those who contracted covid die off.

Understanding "death rates" and "life expectancy" is very complicated. Actuaries pore over the government's statistics with fine tooth combs in order to provide information to those in charge of setting premiums for medical insurance, life insurance, and annuities. However, they make mistakes, such as noted by the RP about Social Security, by failing to note the large increase in the additional years of life for those in our generation. This resulted in a combination of too little being collected by the FICA tax along with too generous entitlements being passed out for political purposes. The greatest mistake was when Lyndon Johnson "converted" the Social Security trust fund to a piggybank which he could spend to finance both the Great Society and the Vietnam war, thereby making Social Security benefits just a regular budget item to be fought over each year in Congress.

jjombrello
09-12-2024, 10:44 AM
My life expectancy was 58.5 years and I've beaten that by 30. But then, I intend to live forever - so far, so good.

Topspinmo
09-12-2024, 10:54 AM
Depends if born poor or well off all things are not equal. Got add in self destruction and ability to over come and be smart enough to increase the odds. Last or not add in things totally out of individuals control cancer, hit by drunk, airplane crash, dozens more.

Topspinmo
09-12-2024, 10:55 AM
My life expectancy was 58.5 years and I've beaten that by 30. But then, I intend to live forever - so far, so good.

I’ve been on borrowed time for 21 years….

retiredguy123
09-12-2024, 10:57 AM
I don't understand this thread. When I was born, I didn't expect anything. I couldn't even count.

Topspinmo
09-12-2024, 03:21 PM
I don't understand this thread. When I was born, I didn't expect anything. I couldn't even count.

Maybe you didn’t know what you was missing?

biker1
09-12-2024, 03:54 PM
Those numbers are not very useful today. It is better to consider how long you will live based on your current age. Issues such as infant mortality are then excluded as well as whether you will die in a war. There are numerous websites that will provide estimates.


The link article is basically "click bait", but it's still good to know I beat the original odds.:laugh:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/how-long-you-were-expected-to-live-the-year-you-were-born/ss-AA1ayPgi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=583734e33cbe4608a55ee9e6e8964fd8&ei=21#image=1

Also, probably why Social Security is having issues.

Dusty_Star
09-12-2024, 04:43 PM
Depends if born poor or well off all things are not equal. Got add in self destruction and ability to over come and be smart enough to increase the odds. Last or not add in things totally out of individuals control cancer, hit by drunk, airplane crash, dozens more.


LawGolfer took that into account, obliquely, once you hit a certain age, you have passed most of the dangers, except the exceptional ones you mentioned. Then we're just facing old age baby.

jojo
10-27-2024, 05:40 AM
My mother died at 106 with full mental capabilities and did not use assistive devices to walk. Her mother, my grandmother, died at 104. and was also healthy at the end. My mother was the oldest of 12 and outlived all but 4 of them.

jojo
10-27-2024, 07:04 AM
xxxxx

CoachKandSportsguy
10-27-2024, 07:14 AM
Dead man walking here. Not really sure if I should be happy or sad when I wake up in the morning. Then I see my wife. HAPPY! 🥰😍🥰

As it should be!

Me Too!

CoachKandSportsguy
10-27-2024, 07:30 AM
I believe a lot of it has to do with genetics. If your parents lived a long time you are more likely to also.

Maybe, but the improvements in healthcare definitely override genetics.

My grandfather, heart attack at 50, lived to about 70
My father, heart attack at 60 1986 in the hospital, participated in the first modern day drug trials for heart attack drugs, lived to 90. . .beat colon cancer with surgery after a bleeding intestine, beat skin cancer, all due to great healthcare and a 24x7 nurse (my mom), added life span 25 years. . . made my dad eat exactly per cardiac survivor diet, hated it, and exercise per cardiac directions.

My mother, born 1926, going to be 98 in Dec, never drank alcohol, walked everyday, took medications for osteoporosis for many years, ate home cooked fresh food as much as possible. current medication list: nothing pharmaceutical. Has dementia/alzhiemers from loss of hearing and highly introverted.

Looking at the stats, lifestyle and available healthcare made all the difference in the world.