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Taltarzac725
10-02-2024, 01:57 PM
Not bad for vegan food. Could hardly tell the difference between the beef burger and this plant based creation.

Shipping up to Boston
10-02-2024, 03:52 PM
Not bad for vegan food. Could hardly tell the difference between the beef burger and this plant based creation.

I’m not vegan but I imagine even a roofing shingle would taste good if you slathered some liquid smoke on it! ;)

retiredguy123
10-02-2024, 03:55 PM
Why call it a burger if it is not a burger?

Topspinmo
10-02-2024, 03:55 PM
All burger kings are impossible around here. :pepper2:Actually I don’t see how they can stay open with such little business?

Shipping up to Boston
10-02-2024, 03:56 PM
All burger kings are impossible around here. :pepper2:Actually I don’t see how they can stay open with such little business?

Too funny...but true!

Shipping up to Boston
10-02-2024, 04:08 PM
Not bad for vegan food. Could hardly tell the difference between the beef burger and this plant based creation.

Do you remember some years back ....the controversy at McDonalds re the Hindus community (and vegetarians). McDonalds was pushing their fries as an option yet they got exposed for using beef tallow in the cooking process. 10M disposition for the class action!

Taltarzac725
10-02-2024, 04:28 PM
It does have a long aftertaste.

JerryLBell
10-02-2024, 04:41 PM
I tried the Impossible Burger a couple of years ago and couldn't really tell the difference between it and a regular Whopper as I ate it. Not that that is a great recommendation as I think Burger King's burgers are pretty bad. However, a couple hours later I had a major gut ache from it. I am probably in the minority here, but soy-based products just don't agree with me. That's too bad as I wish I could cut down on beef but am as far from vegan as you can get in my carnivorous tastes.

Shipping up to Boston
10-02-2024, 04:52 PM
I tried the Impossible Burger a couple of years ago and couldn't really tell the difference between it and a regular Whopper as I ate it. Not that that is a great recommendation as I think Burger King's burgers are pretty bad. However, a couple hours later I had a major gut ache from it. I am probably in the minority here, but soy-based products just don't agree with me. That's too bad as I wish I could cut down on beef but am as far from vegan as you can get in my carnivorous tastes.

There’s always that roadside watermelon you recommend to settle it all down! ;)

asianthree
10-02-2024, 05:23 PM
I tried the Impossible Burger a couple of years ago and couldn't really tell the difference between it and a regular Whopper as I ate it. Not that that is a great recommendation as I think Burger King's burgers are pretty bad. However, a couple hours later I had a major gut ache from it. I am probably in the minority here, but soy-based products just don't agree with me. That's too bad as I wish I could cut down on beef but am as far from vegan as you can get in my carnivorous tastes.

If you want to cut down on beef the heart association has a great recipe for burgers.

1/4 pound 80/20 beef, 1/4 course ground turkey and 1/2 pound finely chopped portobello mushrooms. Combine divide in 1/3 patties. I make ahead so flavor melds together. Grill.

You can always start with 1/2 beef for the recipe and cut back down the road. If you add too much turkey it will be a dry burger. Sometimes I add chopped cherries. Soy based products are not always a good fit for some.

The small amount of beef flavors the patties. To give another layer of flavor grill in a pan with a dab of bacon grease. It’s a southern thing to keep a can on your stove.

Caymus
10-02-2024, 06:20 PM
Not bad for vegan food. Could hardly tell the difference between the beef burger and this plant based creation.

I was surprised at how much saturated fat and sodium they have for a "healthy" burger.

shaw8700@outlook.com
10-02-2024, 06:33 PM
I tried the Impossible Burger a couple of years ago and couldn't really tell the difference between it and a regular Whopper as I ate it. Not that that is a great recommendation as I think Burger King's burgers are pretty bad. However, a couple hours later I had a major gut ache from it. I am probably in the minority here, but soy-based products just don't agree with me. That's too bad as I wish I could cut down on beef but am as far from vegan as you can get in my carnivorous tastes.
Soy based products are harmful to men.

retiredguy123
10-02-2024, 06:48 PM
I was surprised at how much saturated fat and sodium they have for a "healthy" burger.
Who said it is healthy? I don't think that Burger King makes that claim.

Shipping up to Boston
10-02-2024, 07:07 PM
Who said it is healthy? I don't think that Burger King makes that claim.

Exactly.....

Here’s what the Impossible Whopper’s nutrition looks like once you add the toppings, which includes tomatoes, lettuce, creamy mayo, ketchup, pickles, sliced white onions—all layered between sesame seed buns.

Calories: 630
Fat: 34 grams
Saturated fat: 11 grams
Sodium: 1,080 grams
Carbohydrates: 58 grams
Fiber: 4 grams
Protein: 25 grams
Sugar: 12 grams

OrangeBlossomBaby
10-02-2024, 07:07 PM
I was surprised at how much saturated fat and sodium they have for a "healthy" burger.

Who said it is healthy? I don't think that Burger King makes that claim.

Yeah they weren't marketing it as a healthier option. They market it as a meatless option.

I'd rather have a falafel sandwich stuffed in a Syrian (flat, not puffy Greek) pita with tahini, lettuce, and diced tomato and onion. Can't get those at Burger King, but can't get them anywhere around here. Or any other Syrian/Middle East food for that matter. The "Greek" restaurants are the closest they come, and they don't serve anything with tahini, only tzaziki. Which isn't even almost similar.

Topspinmo
10-02-2024, 07:26 PM
About 40 years ago BK use to excellent. Same with McD, IMO now not worth going to including toxic bell. Or maybe it’s just in Florida? IMO KFC hasn’t fallen off mountain yet? I also thing Streak and shake here after Covid has hit bottom. All my opinion, take it for what it worth…:icon_hungry:

OrangeBlossomBaby
10-02-2024, 08:08 PM
About 40 years ago BK use to excellent. Same with McD, IMO now not worth going to including toxic bell. Or maybe it’s just in Florida? IMO KFC has fallen off mountain yet? I also thing Streak and shake here after Covid has hit bottom. All my opinion, take it for what it worth…:icon_hungry:

McDonald's made a big deal about lowering their prices not long ago. I've seen only an increase - the Fishwich is $5.69. For less than 2 ounces of fish - approximately 2.5x2.5" and maybe 1/4 inch high, 1/3 of a slice of processed american cheese, tartar sauce, and a bun that's almost twice the size of the fish.

And they NEVER fill their fry cartons. When I worked for Burger King once upon a time there was a sticker on the side of the fry bin reminding us all that it was OKAY to overfill them, and toss any that'd been sitting there awhile. The cost of french fries in a large carton is MAYBE 40 cents. McDonalds charges $4.49 for that, and you're lucky if they're fresh and even luckier if the carton is full.

At 5 Guys, I can get a "little cheeseburger" (almost 1/4 pound of 80/20 ground chuck) loaded with sauteed mushrooms and a "little fry" which is really a small to-go burger bag filled around 1/2-way with store-cut fries, for under $15. I really wish 5 Guys had a location up on the northeastern end of The Villages, but when I'm down in Brownwood it's one of my usual go-tos.

Pballer
10-02-2024, 08:15 PM
You don't have to worry about Burger King ever selling a burger here made from lab grown meat seeing as the "free" state of Florida has made it a crime to do so. They should change "free" to "nanny" on the signs as you enter and leave Florida.

Shipping up to Boston
10-02-2024, 08:17 PM
McDonald's made a big deal about lowering their prices not long ago. I've seen only an increase - the Fishwich is $5.69. For less than 2 ounces of fish - approximately 2.5x2.5" and maybe 1/4 inch high, 1/3 of a slice of processed american cheese, tartar sauce, and a bun that's almost twice the size of the fish.

And they NEVER fill their fry cartons. When I worked for Burger King once upon a time there was a sticker on the side of the fry bin reminding us all that it was OKAY to overfill them, and toss any that'd been sitting there awhile. The cost of french fries in a large carton is MAYBE 40 cents. McDonalds charges $4.49 for that, and you're lucky if they're fresh and even luckier if the carton is full.

At 5 Guys, I can get a "little cheeseburger" (almost 1/4 pound of 80/20 ground chuck) loaded with sauteed mushrooms and a "little fry" which is really a small to-go burger bag filled around 1/2-way with store-cut fries, for under $15. I really wish 5 Guys had a location up on the northeastern end of The Villages, but when I'm down in Brownwood it's one of my usual go-tos.

A little pricey at Five Guys but a much better product, cooked to order in open kitchen and great toppings. Btw...the filet o fish sandwich at Mickey D’s I deem a lapse in judgement in the very few times I’ve ordered it. It is great pier bait tho! :1rotfl:

OrangeBlossomBaby
10-02-2024, 09:13 PM
A little pricey at Five Guys but a much better product, cooked to order in open kitchen and great toppings. Btw...the filet o fish sandwich at Mickey D’s I deem a lapse in judgement in the very few times I’ve ordered it. It is great pier bait tho! :1rotfl:

I used to love their fish sandwiches. It was a treat growing up, every few weeks Dad would take us to McDonald's - before they had dine-in, there was just a stand-up counter against the front floor-to-ceiling window or an extension of the red and white tile on the side of the building that served as a bench. There was no drive-thru either. It looked a lot like the "1953" photo on this website: Sutori (https://www.sutori.com/en/story/history-of-mcdonald-s--s1HtugL1fPKoFvHDfEztsKbK)

It was built in 1958, the very first McDonalds in Connecticut, in my hometown of Hamden. My first memories of going there was when I was maybe 6 or 7 years old, so within 10 years of it being built. Burgers were 20 cents, Fishwiches were I think 30 cents.

The fillet-o-fish (we always just called them fishwiches) were definitely bigger, and I'm already accounting for the fact that I was just a little kid so everything "seemed" bigger. Dad would always get an extra small fry for us to share on the way home. We rarely ever ate there, because in the winter there was no place to eat - it really was mostly just a take-out joint, and in the summer it was beset with wasps outside.

Today's fishwich is maybe half the size, and the bun is more air than bread, and the cheese - I can't even deal with that tiny strip that they always place hanging off one end so more than half the sandwich gets none at all.

For almost $6 I want 3 ounces of fish, a full slice of cheese, and a bun that doesn't have a mouth-feel like aerated rubber.

mraines
10-03-2024, 06:26 AM
I tried the Impossible Burger a couple of years ago and couldn't really tell the difference between it and a regular Whopper as I ate it. Not that that is a great recommendation as I think Burger King's burgers are pretty bad. However, a couple hours later I had a major gut ache from it. I am probably in the minority here, but soy-based products just don't agree with me. That's too bad as I wish I could cut down on beef but am as far from vegan as you can get in my carnivorous tastes.

I am not vegan but gave up red meat several years ago due to high cholesterol. I prefer Dr. Praeger's burgers myself. Impossible burgers tend to repeat on me as BK's burgers always did. I also like Turkey burgers.

Shipping up to Boston
10-03-2024, 06:44 AM
I used to love their fish sandwiches. It was a treat growing up, every few weeks Dad would take us to McDonald's - before they had dine-in, there was just a stand-up counter against the front floor-to-ceiling window or an extension of the red and white tile on the side of the building that served as a bench. There was no drive-thru either. It looked a lot like the "1953" photo on this website: Sutori (https://www.sutori.com/en/story/history-of-mcdonald-s--s1HtugL1fPKoFvHDfEztsKbK)

It was built in 1958, the very first McDonalds in Connecticut, in my hometown of Hamden. My first memories of going there was when I was maybe 6 or 7 years old, so within 10 years of it being built. Burgers were 20 cents, Fishwiches were I think 30 cents.

The fillet-o-fish (we always just called them fishwiches) were definitely bigger, and I'm already accounting for the fact that I was just a little kid so everything "seemed" bigger. Dad would always get an extra small fry for us to share on the way home. We rarely ever ate there, because in the winter there was no place to eat - it really was mostly just a take-out joint, and in the summer it was beset with wasps outside.

Today's fishwich is maybe half the size, and the bun is more air than bread, and the cheese - I can't even deal with that tiny strip that they always place hanging off one end so more than half the sandwich gets none at all.

For almost $6 I want 3 ounces of fish, a full slice of cheese, and a bun that doesn't have a mouth-feel like aerated rubber.

Yup...you forgot the huge styrofoam (gasp) containers that the Big Mac used to come in as well. Yes we were small but there was definitely ‘truth in advertising’ in those days....what you see is what you got!

Remember this quote from Michael Douglas’ character in the movie ‘Falling Down’?.......


Bill Foster: [disappointed with the burger he's been served] See, this is what I'm talking about. Turn around, look at that.
[he points at the picture of a much nicer burger on the menu board above the counter]
Bill Foster: You see what I mean? It's plump, it's juicy, it's three inches thick. Now, look at this sorry, miserable, squashed thing. Can anybody tell me what's wrong with this picture?

CarlR33
10-03-2024, 07:37 AM
I was surprised at how much saturated fat and sodium they have for a "healthy" burger.How else can they keep it on the shelf for infinity, LOL

Topspinmo
10-03-2024, 10:05 AM
McDonald's made a big deal about lowering their prices not long ago. I've seen only an increase - the Fishwich is $5.69. For less than 2 ounces of fish - approximately 2.5x2.5" and maybe 1/4 inch high, 1/3 of a slice of processed american cheese, tartar sauce, and a bun that's almost twice the size of the fish.

And they NEVER fill their fry cartons. When I worked for Burger King once upon a time there was a sticker on the side of the fry bin reminding us all that it was OKAY to overfill them, and toss any that'd been sitting there awhile. The cost of french fries in a large carton is MAYBE 40 cents. McDonalds charges $4.49 for that, and you're lucky if they're fresh and even luckier if the carton is full.

At 5 Guys, I can get a "little cheeseburger" (almost 1/4 pound of 80/20 ground chuck) loaded with sauteed mushrooms and a "little fry" which is really a small to-go burger bag filled around 1/2-way with store-cut fries, for under $15. I really wish 5 Guys had a location up on the northeastern end of The Villages, but when I'm down in Brownwood it's one of my usual go-tos.

When I got 5 guys had location on 441 across rolling acres road by Spanish springs. McDonalds home of stale buns. Even the ones they changed to dry, must ship them in from Mexico? When I was kid I remember “Smacks” hamburgers home of 15 cent hamburgers and 10 cent fries and drink early 60’s.

fdpaq0580
10-03-2024, 10:42 AM
It does have a long aftertaste.

Gas from the flame grill? Or the chemical taste of liquid smoke? Since my first BK to my last I can taste it. My wife likes it and doesn't notice, so we do occasionally go there. I don't get a burger.

Cuervo
10-04-2024, 04:37 AM
I think it funny when you hear people talking about alternatives to hamburgers.
Instead of saying I really like the taste of whatever this is, they say it almost taste like the real thing.
If you worried about your heath, eat the real thing, just less frequently.

ithos
10-04-2024, 05:51 AM
The Impossible burger is not health food. It is just less harmful than the real thing.

animal protein | Health Topics | NutritionFacts.org (https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/animal-protein/)

But I do think it tastes just as good or better than an actual burger.

certcars
10-04-2024, 06:08 AM
Soy based products are harmful to men.

What evidence do you have to support this claim? There’s ample evidence demonstrating that the amount of soy in plant based burgers and other products is too minuscule to have any impact on men. Or women for that matter.

certcars
10-04-2024, 06:10 AM
We love impossible burgers. We buy them frozen from Sam’s. They are delicious.

Rocksnap
10-04-2024, 07:07 AM
Look up the ingredients used to make impossible “meat”. Then get back to us…

airstreamingypsy
10-04-2024, 07:17 AM
Not bad for vegan food. Could hardly tell the difference between the beef burger and this plant based creation.

I haven't eaten any mammals for at least 30 years. I tried an Impossible burger at BK, and like you I couldn't tell the difference. Within an hour I was really sick, I went to bed for the rest of the day, curled up like a snail.

I have always wondered if they were out of Impossible burgers and just gave me the real thing.

airstreamingypsy
10-04-2024, 07:21 AM
I am not vegan but gave up red meat several years ago due to high cholesterol. I prefer Dr. Praeger's burgers myself. Impossible burgers tend to repeat on me as BK's burgers always did. I also like Turkey burgers.

Dr Praegers frozen pizza is delicious too.

fdpaq0580
10-04-2024, 10:23 AM
Invisaburger. Large, fresh sesame bun, toasted. Ketchup, mayonnaise and mustard. Crispy lettuce, thick slices of beefsteak tomato, onion (I like red) and pickle (bread&butter) and cheese (make mine Muenster) of your choice. Enjoy!
What? No meat/burger? It's an invisaburger!
PS: you can always add avocado, if you like. I often do.

OrangeBlossomBaby
10-04-2024, 11:38 AM
It's also important to know that Impossible Burgers are NOT vegan, and strict vegetarians wouldn't consider it vegetarian either. One of the ingredients is "heme." Heme is the iron found exclusively in animal blood. It can't be synthesized.

NavyVet
10-04-2024, 12:39 PM
Yeah ... No thanks.
106001

ithos
10-04-2024, 12:57 PM
Invisaburger. Large, fresh sesame bun, toasted. Ketchup, mayonnaise and mustard. Crispy lettuce, thick slices of beefsteak tomato, onion (I like red) and pickle (bread&butter) and cheese (make mine Muenster) of your choice. Enjoy!
What? No meat/burger? It's an invisaburger!
PS: you can always add avocado, if you like. I often do.

Some recipes use seasoned grilled portabella mushrooms since you can make slices the size of a burger patty. I once ordered a portabella mushroom that was grilled and tasted like a steak. It was very good.

My favorite fast food sandwich is a Subway Sub. All the veggies, (heavy spinach, no iceberg)no cheese add mustard and vinegar. Loaded with flavor. Far better taste than any burger, real or fake.

jimjamuser
10-04-2024, 01:00 PM
Not bad for vegan food. Could hardly tell the difference between the beef burger and this plant based creation.
Eating plant based meat is one way to help mitigate against Global Warming. Cattle produce methane which like CO2 ends up HEATING the planet. Beyond Meat is popular and available, also a Morning Star product. Your taste buds won't know the difference. So, a slight dietary change and a big improvement for the environment. What's NOT to like?

ithos
10-04-2024, 01:21 PM
Yeah ... No thanks.
106001

There is a reason they call it a heart attack on a bun. It also promotes cancer.
Heart Attack Grill Customer Suffers Heart Attack While Dining On 'Triple Bypass Burger' | HuffPost Life (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/heart-attack-grill_n_1279291?ref=health-news&ir=Health+News)
Plant based burgers are not healthy but are a better option. Like alcohol both should be consumed in moderation.

“Beef has been linked to many different health issues,” Dr. Bruemmer says. “Not just cardiovascular disease but even cancer and diabetes. And consuming red meat on a regular basis is associated with increased death risk.”
What You Should Know About Cholesterol and Beef (https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-you-should-know-about-cholesterol-and-beef)

jimjamuser
10-04-2024, 01:42 PM
I used to love their fish sandwiches. It was a treat growing up, every few weeks Dad would take us to McDonald's - before they had dine-in, there was just a stand-up counter against the front floor-to-ceiling window or an extension of the red and white tile on the side of the building that served as a bench. There was no drive-thru either. It looked a lot like the "1953" photo on this website: Sutori (https://www.sutori.com/en/story/history-of-mcdonald-s--s1HtugL1fPKoFvHDfEztsKbK)

It was built in 1958, the very first McDonalds in Connecticut, in my hometown of Hamden. My first memories of going there was when I was maybe 6 or 7 years old, so within 10 years of it being built. Burgers were 20 cents, Fishwiches were I think 30 cents.

The fillet-o-fish (we always just called them fishwiches) were definitely bigger, and I'm already accounting for the fact that I was just a little kid so everything "seemed" bigger. Dad would always get an extra small fry for us to share on the way home. We rarely ever ate there, because in the winter there was no place to eat - it really was mostly just a take-out joint, and in the summer it was beset with wasps outside.

Today's fishwich is maybe half the size, and the bun is more air than bread, and the cheese - I can't even deal with that tiny strip that they always place hanging off one end so more than half the sandwich gets none at all.

For almost $6 I want 3 ounces of fish, a full slice of cheese, and a bun that doesn't have a mouth-feel like aerated rubber.
I remember about 20 years ago often going to McDonalds to order a fish sandwich which I felt was healthier than the burgers. The taste seemed pretty good back then for fast food. The bun left a lot to be desired. I can't remember the last time I was at a fast food restaurant, but I sometimes go to Paneras, which I enjoy as the high point of my culinary sophistication. I know that most Villagers ine out often and range far and wide to find the pinnacle of culinary perfection. It seems like almost an obsession with The Villages retired folks, like an expensive hobby.

tophcfa
10-04-2024, 02:14 PM
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Byte1
10-05-2024, 08:54 AM
If I want something that tastes like a burger........I buy a BURGER. Why anyone wants to eliminate meat from their diet and still want a fake burger, is beyond my guess. "Wow, a mushroom that tastes like a hamburger!" If you think you are making a health choice, I don't think so. My parents lived to be almost a 100. At my age, I'll eat whatever my gut can cope with and I enjoy. At my age, if they tell me that I can add ten years to my lifespan by eliminating something I enjoy, I'll ask them why I would want to live past 100 and be dependent on someone else to take care of me.
WOW, a veggie burger that tastes like a hamburger!! Does anyone understand how ludicrous that sounds?
If I want veggies, I'll order a salad. However, if you find a hamburger that tastes like a ribeye.....that's the ticket.

Byte1
10-05-2024, 09:00 AM
Eating plant based meat is one way to help mitigate against Global Warming. Cattle produce methane which like CO2 ends up HEATING the planet. Beyond Meat is popular and available, also a Morning Star product. Your taste buds won't know the difference. So, a slight dietary change and a big improvement for the environment. What's NOT to like?

Lots of things contribute to methane. Sorry, but I am not going to quit eating beef, pork, chicken, etc. in order to get a warm and fuzzy feeling about how my contribution is helping in the silly notion that I might lower global warming. Climate change will happen regardless of what mankind does or doesn't do.

Battlebasset
10-05-2024, 02:23 PM
The impossible burger I had was impossible to eat. Would rather cut back on the times I eat a beef burger for health reasons, vs plugging in impossible burgers, which seem to have the same calories and fat. A solution in search of a problem.

Battlebasset
10-05-2024, 02:27 PM
Lots of things contribute to methane. Sorry, but I am not going to quit eating beef, pork, chicken, etc. in order to get a warm and fuzzy feeling about how my contribution is helping in the silly notion that I might lower global warming. Climate change will happen regardless of what mankind does or doesn't do.

I often ask people like this that if they think climate change is real and an existential threat, what are they personally sacrificing to make me believe that they believe it. Usually the response is crickets, mumbles about solar panels and EV or outright anger that I would ask such a question.

Until you really show me some sacrifice, I dismiss such people as only believing in climate change because it is (1) Cool (2) Let's them feel superior or (3) a political talking point.

JMintzer
10-05-2024, 03:50 PM
I tried an "Impossible Burger" when they 1st came out...

I tossed it in the garbage after two bites. I couldn't choke it down...

ithos
10-05-2024, 04:46 PM
I often ask people like this that if they think climate change is real and an existential threat, what are they personally sacrificing to make me believe that they believe it. Usually the response is crickets, mumbles about solar panels and EV or outright anger that I would ask such a question.

Until you really show me some sacrifice, I dismiss such people as only believing in climate change because it is (1) Cool (2) Let's them feel superior or (3) a political talking point.

I concur on your opinion about global warming. The first IPCC meeting in 1988 had three phases. The first phase was mostly a meeting of the scientists but the last phase was dominated by the politicians and bureaucrats. I researched it at the time because of all the scaremongering about the destruction of the planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF0hcsMVDx0

However the demand for animal protein leads to substantial waste of water. Beef can take 1500 gallons of water to produce one pound of beef. Not to mention the pollution created. And it takes 20x the land to produce that same amount of calories for plants.

If someone has other data to the contrary please enlighten me.

ithos
10-05-2024, 04:57 PM
Maybe the vegans, omnivores and carnivores are all wrong.

"The Drinking Man's Diet"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o9fdFWey8s

Bill14564
10-05-2024, 05:07 PM
It's also important to know that Impossible Burgers are NOT vegan, and strict vegetarians wouldn't consider it vegetarian either. One of the ingredients is "heme." Heme is the iron found exclusively in animal blood. It can't be synthesized.

Several websites, including Impossible's, disagree. Impossible claims their heme is derived from soy.

Bill14564
10-05-2024, 05:08 PM
I tried an "Impossible Burger" when they 1st came out...

I tossed it in the garbage after two bites. I couldn't choke it down...

I tried a slider once. Tasted like burger to me. Just don't see a need to eat something just like a burger when I can easily get a burger.

OrangeBlossomBaby
10-05-2024, 07:00 PM
I often ask people like this that if they think climate change is real and an existential threat, what are they personally sacrificing to make me believe that they believe it. Usually the response is crickets, mumbles about solar panels and EV or outright anger that I would ask such a question.

Until you really show me some sacrifice, I dismiss such people as only believing in climate change because it is (1) Cool (2) Let's them feel superior or (3) a political talking point.

Why? It's easy to believe in facts, and not try to "do" anything about them.

I believe there's a lot of social injustice in the world. But I have no intention of flying anywhere to fix it. That doesn't mean I think I'm cool for believing it. Or that I feel superior to someone else just because I believe it. And I don't consider it a political talking point. There IS social injustice in the world, whether it's convenient for you to recognize that fact or not. I also don't expect you to do anything about it - because you're not obligated to do anything about it. Neither am I.

I believe that climate change is a thing. I believe humans have contributed to the speed and severity of it, even though I also do NOT believe that we caused it. I don't do all that much about it, because I don't consider myself obligated to do much about it. I do a little - my flower bed attracts pollinators. I re-use bags from grocery stores, instead of buying brand new virgin plastic waste bags. When the weather permits, I walk to the postal station instead of wasting fossil fuels by driving to it. I do a little. If everyone did a little, there could be a slow-down of the climate changes on this planet. But I don't think we need to feel obligated. Our species will be wiped out eventually and replaced with a species that can live in whatever is left of the planet when we're done with it.

JP
10-06-2024, 12:43 PM
Two of my closest friends, crazily committed vegans, died a couple of years ago and were my age. Veganism certainly didn't help them. If not eating meat is important to you great, but I don't really think it will do much in your life.

Battlebasset
10-06-2024, 01:46 PM
Why? It's easy to believe in facts, and not try to "do" anything about them.

I perhaps wasn't clear. My apologies.

I have no problem with someone believing in climate change. I believe that weather/weather patterns are always changing, so I guess you could say that I believe in it as well.

My beef (pun intended) are those that claim that (1) man is the main cause and (2) it's an existential threat that requires billions, if not trillions, to be spent to correct it. But in their own life, there is little evidence that they have changed their lifestyle at all in response to their "belief". They seem to think that the elusive "someone else" should do something/sacrifice. Not them. Thus my three suppositions of why they loudly proclaim such a position.

All of those things you do are wise and prudent actions of someone who wants to conserve and reduce pollution. I've done those things all my life as well. I keep my cars until the wheels go square. It saves me money, but also reduces the number of cars in landfills. I have a lithium ion golf cart. I bought it because it made sense for something that never goes further than 30 miles round trip from my house, but I guess it creates less air pollution as well.

If the focus is on reducing pollution, I'm all for it. Solar and wind to change the climate of an entire planet? A fool and his money are soon parted. Might as well wash your car in an attempt to make it rain.

Byte1
10-06-2024, 01:47 PM
I tried an "Impossible Burger" when they 1st came out...

I tossed it in the garbage after two bites. I couldn't choke it down...

It took TWO bites to make the decision to toss it?

Years ago, a friend invited us over to his home for supper. He said he was a vegetarian so he served lasagna with soy meat instead of hamburger. It was actually good, so I figured I would try to make it, just for S and G's. The soy meat cost more than hamburger so I gave up on that idea. Hamburger works just fine for me, and I also make my lasagna with sausage too. Regardless of health ramifications, I DO enjoy a greasy mushroom and Swiss burger. I won't ridicule folks that eat "impossible" burgers, but when someone wants veggies to taste like meat, it seems to me that they really wish they were eating meat. I've eaten a veggie hot dog when I was a kid and remember it as okay. But, would never chose a fake hotdog over a real one, if given a choice.

I doubt if I could be enticed to eat an "impossible burger." But, if we ever run out of beef, I would eat a turkey burger or chicken fillet......not a fake burger. Still trying to understand why folks want something that "tastes just like a real burger."

JMintzer
10-06-2024, 02:10 PM
It took TWO bites to make the decision to toss it?

LOL! I was pretty sure after ONE bite, but I wanted to give it a fair shot...

Calisport
10-06-2024, 09:32 PM
Many people have gotten sick from the impossible burger. Too many bad ingredients in it making it taste like beef. Read up online about it. I used to eat it but got sick over and over again. I would avoid hamburger too. Take a steak and grind it up instead if you must.

Normal
10-07-2024, 05:48 AM
I would rather just chow as I please and take my staton.

ithos
10-07-2024, 06:43 AM
Two of my closest friends, crazily committed vegans, died a couple of years ago and were my age. Veganism certainly didn't help them. If not eating meat is important to you great, but I don't really think it will do much in your life.

Anecdotal observations are scientifically irrelevant. My PSA was 2.5 but for the last several tests it dropped to less than 1 after I changed my diet. But this too is anecdotal.

There are studies too numerous to count proving that whole food plant based diets are best for longevity and avoiding cancer and heart disease. https://www.bluezones.com/
There are many medical programs that can reverse heart disease, diabetes, autoimmune diseases and in some cases even cancer. The number one priority is to change to a whole food plant based diet. Goodbye Lupus by Brooke Goldner, M.D. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@BrookeGoldnerMD)
The only Medicare approved program to reverse heart disease is based primarily on the WFPB diet. NCD - Ornish Program for Reversing Heart Disease (20.31.2) (https://www.cms.gov/medicare-coverage-database/view/ncd.aspx?NCDId=341)

If you can find peer reviewed studies from reputable medical organizations that show that animal protein diets are good for these diseases then please post them.

Keep in mind, this thread began with a post commenting about the taste comparison between an impossible burger and a meat hamburger and it turned into vegan bash fest which is fine but Archie Bunker style comments are no substitute for real science.

JerryLBell
10-07-2024, 08:44 AM
There’s always that roadside watermelon you recommend to settle it all down! ;)
I haven't seen him in a while. The season is over. I am SO sad... I count down the days before he comes back! I feel the need to cut a big ole honkin' watermelon in half and dive in, head first!

Normal
10-07-2024, 08:58 AM
I haven't seen him in a while. The season is over. I am SO sad... I count down the days before he comes back! I feel the need to cut a big ole honkin' watermelon in half and dive in, head first!

If so, fill it with Vodka first.

Taltarzac725
10-07-2024, 08:59 AM
The few White Castle burgers I had a few nights ago were so, so good .

ithos
10-07-2024, 09:42 AM
The few White Castle burgers I had a few nights ago were so, so good .

They only time I enjoyed the taste was after a night of bar hopping. The best real fast food hamburgers are made by Whataburger. They closed down the ones in Central Florida but I think it is just a matter of time before the start building stores here since they are very popular in the panhandle.