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ScottGo
10-05-2024, 09:19 AM
I just took my cart from Fenney to Brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
Charles K
10-05-2024, 09:38 AM
I just took my cart from Fenney to Brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
It's done in order to lower the level in retention ponds so that the ponds have space to receive the heavy rains without causing flooding.
Risuli
10-05-2024, 09:39 AM
I just took my cart from Fenney to Brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
Lowering the level of the retention ponds in advance?
biggamefish1
10-05-2024, 09:40 AM
This is part of the water management program here in TV. When we have too much rain, this is how they lower the water levels in our retention basins to keep from flooding.
MrFlorida
10-05-2024, 12:28 PM
Must be new here, whenever a storm comes, they lower the ponds, and remove the gates.
mikemalloy
10-05-2024, 01:33 PM
I just took my cart from Fenney to Brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
Some of the water from the sprinklers evaporates immediately in the air. Some after it is on the ground. It's preferable to the ponds overflowing and flooding homes.
kansasr
10-05-2024, 02:25 PM
This site really needs some sort of automatic response to these frequently asked questions by newcomers.
Bogie Shooter
10-05-2024, 02:30 PM
It’s called search.
ScottGo
10-05-2024, 03:53 PM
I just took my cart from Fenney to Brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
Thanks. Not to new 3 yrs, never really noticed it before. Got drenched a couple of times oncoming carts.
Altavia
10-05-2024, 06:31 PM
Thanks. Not to new 3 yrs, never really noticed it before. Got drenched a couple of times oncoming carts.
They are running much more than I've seen in 5 yrs south of 44. The retention ponds are also higher.
Kudo's to the Villages storm water management team for being proactive 2 days before the official warnings materialized.
https://www.districtgov.org/PdfUpload/Storm%20Water.pdf
Teed_Off
10-05-2024, 08:51 PM
I just took my cart from Fenney to Brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
Homeowners might consider running their irrigation system too. My designer home system uses 900 - 1,000 gallons when I water the lawn, costs less than $3.
Rwirish
10-06-2024, 05:06 AM
How many times is this explained?
It’s called search.
As a "newcomer" here let me just say: the search function on this site sucks.
Lyarham
10-06-2024, 05:22 AM
I just took my cart from Fenney to Brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
Running sprinklers to lower lake levels
rsmurano
10-06-2024, 05:24 AM
What the villages should do is to tell the people in each district to run their sprinklers on a specific day and there will be no cost of doing this. The system knows how much water you use to water your lawn every day so it would be easy for them to credit you for 1 day. The major benefits would be: people’s lawns might look better, and that would draw down the water more than having TV water specific areas for 6 hours a day
Bill14564
10-06-2024, 05:44 AM
What the villages should do is to tell the people in each district to run their sprinklers on a specific day and there will be no cost of doing this. The system knows how much water you use to water your lawn every day so it would be easy for them to credit you for 1 day. The major benefits would be: people’s lawns might look better, and that would draw down the water more than having TV water specific areas for 6 hours a day
The system does not know how much water you use to water your lawn every day. All the system knows is how much water you used in each month for as long as you owned the home. The system doesn't know how many days you watered or how long your system ran on each of those days. The calculations for this would be horrendous and there would likely be hundreds of homeowners who didn't agree with the results.
Secondly, saturating your own lawn is not what you want to do before a heavy rain event. You want your lawn to be able to absorb some of the water to reduce standing water and runoff damage. If your lawn is saturated at the beginning of the event then everything that falls becomes runoff. Not only could this potentially damage your property but it also means more water into the storm drains which raises the ponds faster.
EDIT to add:
Water pressure would also make it more difficult to calculate how much water a homeowner uses in a day. If everyone turned on their irrigation at the same time the water pressure would drop and you would use less than you use under normal conditions. This would make it even more difficult to estimate how much to discount a bill.
Also, some irrigation systems are connected to potable water and not pond water. This is common above 466 but might occur in other pockets too. Running these systems would not help the ponds at all. Expecting Villagers to know which system they are on is unrealistic.
MikeN
10-06-2024, 05:52 AM
They are draining the retention ponds in anticipation of additional rainfall
crash
10-06-2024, 06:08 AM
Homeowners might consider running their irrigation system too. My designer home system uses 900 - 1,000 gallons when I water the lawn, costs less than $3.
You have to pay for that water. At $3 for 30 days that is $90 a month. People here scream when their Amenity fee goes up $4 a month.
I also don’t think the home irrigation water is tied to the ponds.
Rzepecki
10-06-2024, 06:10 AM
As a "newcomer" here let me just say: the search function on this site sucks.
I’m not a newcomer, but I’m afraid I have to agree. 😢
Rzepecki
10-06-2024, 06:11 AM
You have to pay for that water. At $3 for 30 days that is $90 a month. People here scream when their Amenity fee goes up $4 a month.
I also don’t think the home irrigation water is tied to the ponds.
Depends on where you live.
crash
10-06-2024, 06:13 AM
What the villages should do is to tell the people in each district to run their sprinklers on a specific day and there will be no cost of doing this. The system knows how much water you use to water your lawn every day so it would be easy for them to credit you for 1 day. The major benefits would be: people’s lawns might look better, and that would draw down the water more than having TV water specific areas for 6 hours a day
A golf corse sprinkler puts out more water in 1 minute then yours does in 1 hour.
Home irrigation is not tied to the ponds so it wouldn’t make any difference anyway.
Chamo
10-06-2024, 06:26 AM
Just answer The guys question you don’t need 20 responses of the same answer. The person is curious one or two responses and the rest that you should just mind your business, but everybody has to throw in their two cents. That’s why the site sucks at times.
Nana2Teddy
10-06-2024, 06:31 AM
Too bad they always lower the ponds too much causing many of them to never fully recover because not all areas receive lots of rain during these storms. Here in Deluna we always have ponds that aren’t full due to how much water we lose before storms because of the “water management” system, and then we have unsightly half empty, or in some cases completely dry ponds throughout the winter season until we finally receive rain again the following summer. Then it starts all over again with the “system” lowering our finally full, or half full ponds again. They need a system that lowers only the ponds that are actually full, but I guess that would mean boots on the ground checking each pond rather than the automated system they use everywhere whether it’s needed or not.
Also, I agree about the search feature here. It sucks.
Nana2Teddy
10-06-2024, 06:33 AM
A golf corse sprinkler puts out more water in 1 minute then yours does in 1 hour.
Home irrigation is not tied to the ponds so it wouldn’t make any difference anyway.
Down south of 44 our irrigation comes from the ponds.
Ldude44
10-06-2024, 06:37 AM
To lower the water level of the ponds before the next storm.
RoboVil
10-06-2024, 06:42 AM
This site really needs some sort of automatic response to these frequently asked questions by newcomers.
Just choose not to read those questions/posts.
Nanpepper
10-06-2024, 06:43 AM
Emptying the ponds to prepare for what's coming
bluecenturian
10-06-2024, 06:48 AM
I am waiting for this uninformed person to acknowledge they were ignorant with this statement and thank those who informed them and made them more knowledgeable.
DrHitch
10-06-2024, 06:51 AM
This site really needs some sort of automatic response to these frequently asked questions by newcomers.
I'll add these FAQs to The Villages 101 The Villages 101 You've come the right place for renters and snowbirds to learn about The Villages "Florida's Friendliest Hometown". Neighborhoods, house rentals, activities, and pointers to the many other resources. (http://www.thevillages101.com)
But agree that using the search function is always a good idea before posting ....
coleprice
10-06-2024, 07:08 AM
Tropical Storm "Milton" is headed towards Florida, where it is expected to build into a hurricane prior to arriving here. So, water is being drained from retention ponds to make room for the heavy rainfall that is anticipated from the hurricane. The Villages does an OUTSTANDING job of "managing water" to protect homes from flooding here in America's friendliest town!
Bilyclub
10-06-2024, 07:26 AM
15 yards for unnecessary roughness, piling on a downed player.
Michaeljay
10-06-2024, 07:53 AM
What the villages should do is to tell the people in each district to run their sprinklers on a specific day and there will be no cost of doing this. The system knows how much water you use to water your lawn every day so it would be easy for them to credit you for 1 day. The major benefits would be: people’s lawns might look better, and that would draw down the water more than having TV water specific areas for 6 hours a day
When ever I hear that they are drawing down the ponds by watering the golf courses, why can’t we use that water on our grass at a discounted rate or free
Steve
10-06-2024, 08:38 AM
I just took my cart from Fenney to Brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
You must be new around here. After you've been through a few hurricanes and tropical storms you'll never give it a second thought.
Steve
10-06-2024, 08:40 AM
When ever I hear that they are drawing down the ponds by watering the golf courses, why can’t we use that water on our grass at a discounted rate or free
That's fine if you're watering with "reclaimed water". But for many of us in the "older" sections our sprinklers use the same water as the house--regular tap water.
Steve
10-06-2024, 08:41 AM
Lowering the level of the retention ponds in advance?
An ounce of prevention...
Steve
10-06-2024, 08:49 AM
What the villages should do is to tell the people in each district to run their sprinklers on a specific day and there will be no cost of doing this. The system knows how much water you use to water your lawn every day so it would be easy for them to credit you for 1 day. The major benefits would be: people’s lawns might look better, and that would draw down the water more than having TV water specific areas for 6 hours a day
The problem with that is people don't read the paper, don't go to websites like this, don't listen to the radio, don't pay attention to any of the outlets that distribute that kind of information ad nauseum. Don't even speak with their neighbors. So if someone is watering their lawn on any day other than their assigned days some trolls will complain to the powers that be that their neighbor is in violation of some obscure "covenant". The Villages has the flood mitigation under control. If you get splashed in your golf cart that's a small price to pay for not having your home flooded.
NoMo50
10-06-2024, 08:50 AM
Home irrigation is not tied to the ponds so it wouldn’t make any difference anyway.
The overwhelming majority of homes in the Villages get their irrigation water from retention ponds. There are homes in the older areas north of CR-466 that use potable water for irrigation, but they are the exception, not the rule.
Markus
10-06-2024, 09:36 AM
You have to pay for that water. At $3 for 30 days that is $90 a month. People here scream when their Amenity fee goes up $4 a month.
I also don’t think the home irrigation water is tied to the ponds.
Yes it IS tied to the ponds. There are costs to maintain the system and keep the pumps running. It is a complex system and there are costs to it. Those pumps are not cheap.
kkingston57
10-06-2024, 09:46 AM
I just took my cart from Fenney to Brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
Had same ? years ago. System is crazy but seems to work well. Only problem is that all areas are now saturated and more rain coming. Hope grass(especially golf courses) can handle the over saturation.
retiredguy123
10-06-2024, 09:57 AM
What the villages should do is to tell the people in each district to run their sprinklers on a specific day and there will be no cost of doing this. The system knows how much water you use to water your lawn every day so it would be easy for them to credit you for 1 day. The major benefits would be: people’s lawns might look better, and that would draw down the water more than having TV water specific areas for 6 hours a day
How does the system know how much water you use every day? My irrigation system has a meter, and my bill reflects my monthly usage, but I didn't think they have daily usage data, unless they were to read the meter every day. Also, if you use the correct amount of water, the water should be absorbed by your lawn, and not drained off into the retention ponds. I think a lot of people use way too much irrigation water.
Bogie Shooter
10-06-2024, 10:15 AM
Irrigation Information
Home Irrigation:
North of CR 466, homes are irrigated with potable water.
South of CR 466, homes are irrigated with non-potable water which is comprised of storm water runoff that is collected in water retention areas and groundwater from the lower Floridan aquifer when storm water supplies are not available.
Golf Course Irrigation:
North of CR 466, golf courses are irrigated with a combination of reclaimed wastewater, storm water runoff that is collected in water retention areas, and groundwater (some upper Floridan and some Lower Floridan, depending on the specific course).
South of CR 466 all golf courses are irrigated with a combination of reclaimed wastewater and lower Floridan groundwater.
Please note that any reclaimed wastewater that is used for golf course irrigation is treated and meets the public access reuse standards established and required by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection.
Barkriver
10-06-2024, 10:47 AM
Brilliant!
defrey12
10-06-2024, 11:11 AM
Lowering the level of the retention ponds in advance?
Yes…don’t act so surprised. They have to have somewhere to put the next storm’s runoff, so they empty the ponds BEFORE the storm.
Rodneysblue
10-06-2024, 01:14 PM
Homeowners might consider running their irrigation system too. My designer home system uses 900 - 1,000 gallons when I water the lawn, costs less than $3.
Good idea for those with separate irrigation water systems.
Teed_Off
10-06-2024, 03:50 PM
You have to pay for that water. At $3 for 30 days that is $90 a month. People here scream when their Amenity fee goes up $4 a month.
I also don’t think the home irrigation water is tied to the ponds.
Are you saying that you water your grass every day?
END OTT
10-06-2024, 04:37 PM
i just took my cart from fenney to brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
keeping the retiner ponds low for the next hurrican
Nell57
10-06-2024, 05:22 PM
Too bad they always lower the ponds too much causing many of them to never fully recover because not all areas receive lots of rain during these storms. Here in Deluna we always have ponds that aren’t full due to how much water we lose before storms because of the “water management” system, and then we have unsightly half empty, or in some cases completely dry ponds throughout the winter season until we finally receive rain again the following summer. Then it starts all over again with the “system” lowering our finally full, or half full ponds again. They need a system that lowers only the ponds that are actually full, but I guess that would mean boots on the ground checking each pond rather than the automated system they use everywhere whether it’s needed or not.
Also, I agree about the search feature here. It sucks.
If you ever have an opportunity to attend a presentation by the Water Management Department. …GO! It is so interesting how they manage water movement here.
The maps clearly identify 3 types of ponds.
1. Ponds adjacent to nature preserves. They leave these ponds alone.
2. Ponds that are lined. These ponds might be stocked for fishing, and water moves in and out as needed. Water is moved from pond to pond.From here they flood golf courses when necessary.
3. Unlined ponds. This is the type you are referencing. These ponds will go completely dry at times. If you are living near an unlined pond, it will always be that way. Your options are to either live with it , as is, or move. It will have water part of the year…like now
Bogie Shooter
10-06-2024, 05:23 PM
It's done in order to lower the level in retention ponds so that the ponds have space to receive the heavy rains without causing flooding.
Second post on this thread………..
Kenswing
10-06-2024, 06:50 PM
I’m not sure but I think they run the sprinklers to lower the pond levels. I know I read that somewhere. :1rotfl:
BrianL99
10-06-2024, 07:19 PM
It’s called search.
As a "newcomer" here let me just say: the search function on this site sucks.
I’m not a newcomer, but I’m afraid I have to agree. 😢
Likely Operator Error. The Search function on this Forum works far better than most every other forum or site I know of.
Rocksnap
10-07-2024, 05:59 AM
One would think, after lifting here for 3 years, the answer would have been known? I haven’t even moved in yet and know.
But then again, I have no life and have been on the forums a bit before our move.
asianthree
10-07-2024, 06:17 AM
Too bad they always lower the ponds too much causing many of them to never fully recover because not all areas receive lots of rain during these storms. Here in Deluna we always have ponds that aren’t full due to how much water we lose before storms because of the “water management” system, and then we have unsightly half empty, or in some cases completely dry ponds throughout the winter season until we finally receive rain again the following summer. Then it starts all over again with the “system” lowering our finally full, or half full ponds again. They need a system that lowers only the ponds that are actually full, but I guess that would mean boots on the ground checking each pond rather than the automated system they use everywhere whether it’s needed or not.
Also, I agree about the search feature here. It sucks.
So from experience of the last 17 years. The Pond across the street from our home in LSL is approximately 1.5 acres. The sprinkler were running for 6 days prior to 2017. We could see the in/out pipes, water was 14’ below cresting line.
We watched that pond not only crest, but water making it over the sidewalk, into the road.
We had water 10’ away from the back of our lanai. Yet no water ever entered our homes, thanks to the water management emptying those ponds.
So some think ponds are ugly half empty. Many see them as saving their homes from destruction.
NotGolfer
10-07-2024, 07:14 AM
I wish folks would discover the "scroll" feature and not have several answers that are the same. Scrolling AND google should be everyone's friends!!
DonnaNi4os
10-07-2024, 07:47 AM
There is a method to the madness it lowers the retention ponds which lowers the risk of flooding.
Bogie Shooter
10-07-2024, 09:03 AM
I wish folks would discover the "scroll" feature and not have several answers that are the same. Scrolling AND google should be everyone's friends!!
There is a method to the madness it lowers the retention ponds which lowers the risk of flooding.
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ucrider
10-07-2024, 09:16 AM
I just took my cart from Fenney to Brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
They run the sprinklers to lower the water levels in the retention ponds as a flood mitigation measure. Expect the sprinklers to run alot in the next 2 days. Also, they close golf courses and run sprinklers there. Several courses are closed for that purpose.
Bogie Shooter
10-07-2024, 12:06 PM
There has to be an echo on this thread.:shrug::1rotfl:
coffeebean
10-07-2024, 07:03 PM
I just took my cart from Fenney to Brownwood farmers mkt. Why are the sprinklers going 9 a.m.? There are major rains coming, isn't the ground wet enough already?
The Villages, south of 466, has a storm water management system that will prevent flooding in our homes. The irrigation system is part of that management so you will see the irrigation running 24/7 in common areas.
ThirdOfFive
10-08-2024, 11:14 AM
How many times is this explained?
So? Apparently not to the person asking the question.
Here's an idea! If a question asked more than once rankles, then just don't answer it. Someone of a more helpful and friendly bent, undoubtedly will.
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