No golf until november?

[hdanielblank]

I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

[Stu from NYC]

Just be thankful how well the system prevented flooding

[Southwest737]

I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

With Irma 7 years ago it took a couple weeks before golf started opening up. Championship courses get priority over executive.
Whatever the time frame management should extend the renewal dates of all golfers who paid for enhanced membership and/or executive trail fees. That is what the paper does when you put the paper on hold.

[Bogie Shooter]

I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? ( maybe a rumor, how would we know if true)

If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages( makes no difference)

. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner?( should be left to the experts)
I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion ( what is a valid opinion)
so I'd like to hear from you.


It is what it is……

[blueash]

Whatever the time frame management should extend the renewal dates of all golfers who paid for enhanced membership and/or executive trail fees. That is what the paper does when you put the paper on hold.

Yeah, right on, and don't forget I need credit for any rainy days where there were no points, oh and days that were cart path only as I don't golf those days, and any too cold days too and heat emergency over 95 degree days too. I need my $$ credits. /s

[tophcfa]

I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

Not surprising using Irma in 2017 as a baseline. Courses were closed for a couple weeks after that storm and then began to slowly open up over time. Although I believe Irma dropped more rain on the Villages than Milton, the ground was already saturated and water levels were high before Milton arrived. After Irma Lake Sumter wasn’t nearly as high as after Milton.

[Topspinmo]

No different than when everything was shut down during initial Covid but golf. What goes around comes around…:shrug: now golfers experiencing what rest of use had to endure.

[FloridaGuy66]

Does anyone have any recommendations on closeby courses outside of TV that are reasonably priced to play 9 or 18 holes?

[graciegirl]

Just be thankful how well the system prevented flooding

I so agree.

[golfing eagles]

No different than when everything was shut down during initial Covid but golf. What goes around comes around…:shrug: now golfers experiencing what rest of use had to endure.

Do I sense a case of "sour grapes"?????----Hard to do when comparing apples to oranges:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Papa_lecki]

Does anyone have any recommendations on closeby courses outside of TV that are reasonably priced to play 9 or 18 holes?

Those courses got rain too.

[dewilson58]

I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

Check with your hairdresser's brother-in-law's neighbor.

[GpaVader]

I suspect it will be a while before Continental Country Club opens up. They got nailed with a ton of uprooted trees and broken limbs...

[Marathon Man]

Yeah, right on, and don't forget I need credit for any rainy days where there were no points, oh and days that were cart path only as I don't golf those days, and any too cold days too and heat emergency over 95 degree days too. I need my $$ credits. /s

Well said. People just don't seem to understand that costs don't go to zero when the courses are closed.

[Stu from NYC]

Could be worse op, your house could have been washed away so no more worrying about playing golf

[justjim]

Could be worse op, your house could have been washed away so no more worrying about playing golf

I agree. Golfers need to chill out once in a while and now would be a good time. Have you ever heard of “burn out”? Yes, it can happen to a golfer too. Just saying - from experience…

[tophcfa]

I agree. Golfers need to chill out once in a while and now would be a good time. Have you ever heard of “burn out”? Yes, it can happen to a golfer too. Just saying - from experience…

Plenty of time to chill out when I die.

[Topspinmo]

Do I sense a case of "sour grapes"?????----Hard to do when comparing apples to oranges:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


Only you’re apples right.

[fdpaq0580]

Do I sense a case of "sour grapes"?????----Hard to do when comparing apples to oranges:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Grapes? Apples? Oranges? You into making fruit salad, or margaritas? Inquiring minds want to know? 😀😄😉

[fdpaq0580]

Plenty of time to chill out when I die.

I'm going to chill out now! I might end up hauling fuel to the fire when I die. I was naughty once

[Stu from NYC]

Grapes? Apples? Oranges? You into making fruit salad, or margaritas? Inquiring minds want to know? 😀😄😉

Thinking margaritas:pepper2:

[golfing eagles]

Grapes? Apples? Oranges? You into making fruit salad, or margaritas? Inquiring minds want to know? 😀😄😉

Do I really have to explain it????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Stu from NYC]

Do I really have to explain it????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Apparently

[DonH57]

With Irma 7 years ago it took a couple weeks before golf started opening up. Championship courses get priority over executive.
Whatever the time frame management should extend the renewal dates of all golfers who paid for enhanced membership and/or executive trail fees. That is what the paper does when you put the paper on hold.

If only. Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen even if it were for months.

[DARFAP]

I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.
Same thing happened with Debby in August. These courses are already saturated and are now flooded again.

[Aces4]

As I posted in a similar thread:

A change of perspective regarding the golf courses... they are primarily water retention and detention areas. When the areas aren't in use for water storage, one is welcome to use the golf courses built within to make people think they have fine golf courses. It all balances out, one just needs to develop another hobby other than golf for the "closed" days.

[BrianL99]

So while there's all this complaining about TV courses being closed ....

Streamsong is closed.
Bay Hill is closed.
Innisbrook is closed.
Celebration is closed.
1 of the 2 courses at Grand Cypress are closed.

All the above are rated in the Top 30 of public access courses in FL.

Among the private clubs that are closed:

Mountain Lake
The Concession
Pelican Golf Club

[Babufrick]

Golf Updates are frequently posted here. They use the word MAY take a few weeks for ALL EXECUTIVE courses.

Infers some courses will open in shorter time frame.

Updates will be provided as reopening
procedures and post-storm evaluations take place.

https://www.districtgov.org/PdfUpload/Post%20Milton%20Update%20(11)-Rec%20&%20Golf.pdf

[jimhoward]

I am new to the villages, so new I'm not there yet. I close on my new house in a couple of weeks. I drove up there today to see if there was any flood or wind damage to my new house. Everything okay. I was amazed at the drainage system. All kinds of drains sending water to the golf courses and the ponds and preserves.

I think the duration of the course closures is unique to the villages. So many houses are in a flood plane. I didn't even know you could build where they are building and have built. It is engineering magic. Our golf suffers, but i sense that most residents approve of the strategy.

I currently belong to the golf club at Reunion resort in Kissimmee. We three courses on property. One was open one day after the hurricane, two were open 2 days after the hurricane. All three are open now. So its not that all courses in Florida are closed, its mostly just the villages. But I think everybody understands why, the elevation in the housing developments is low.

[Papa_lecki]

I am new to the villages, so new I'm not there yet. I close on my new house in a couple of weeks. I drove up there today to see if there was any flood or wind damage to my new house. Everything okay. I was amazed at the drainage system. All kinds of drains sending water to the golf courses and the ponds and preserves.

I think the duration of the course closures is unique to the villages. So many houses are in a flood plane. I didn't even know you could build where they are building and have built. It is engineering magic. Our golf suffers, but i sense that most residents approve of the strategy.

I currently belong to the golf club at Reunion resort in Kissimmee. We three courses on property. One was open one day after the hurricane, two were open 2 days after the hurricane. All three are open now. So its not that all courses in Florida are closed, its mostly just the villages. But I think everybody understands why, the elevation in the housing developments is low.

Is that the club with a $7500 initiation fee, monthly dues of $780 and you pay $30 for a round of gold? Completely different business model.

https://www.reunionrealty.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/2024-Schedule-of-Dues-Fees-and-Other-Charges.pdf

[Mleeja]

In my unofficial survey today, Briarwood and Walnut Grove looks like they could be playable. El Diablo is still under water on a couple of holes, but the greens looks great.

[Aces4]

Is that the club with a $7500 initiation fee, monthly dues of $780 and you pay $30 for a round of gold? Completely different business model.

https://www.reunionrealty.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/2024-Schedule-of-Dues-Fees-and-Other-Charges.pdf

It's the same ole story, you get what you pay for...

[BrianL99]

I am new to the villages, so new I'm not there yet.


I think the duration of the course closures is unique to the villages. So many houses are in a flood plane. I didn't even know you could build where they are building and have built. It is engineering magic. Our golf suffers, but i sense that most residents approve of the strategy.

So its not that all courses in Florida are closed, its mostly just the villages. But I think everybody understands why, the elevation in the housing developments is low.


The home elevations in TV are no different than most anywhere else in FL. In fact, much of the construction in TV is at a higher level than most. Unlike much of FL, we don't have a nearby ocean to absorb excess drainage.

Courses are closed all over Florida, read the news.

The reason TV golf courses may appear to be more affected than other areas, is the development strategy in TV is different than in most other places. We are a golf-centric community. We need huge amounts of lateral space to accommodate the courses. Unlike most housing developments, TV opted to use that lateral space for a dual purpose ... water detention and golf. Genius move.

The majority of the golf courses don't become "drainage areas", until we reach about a 25 year storm event ... once every 25 years. Other golf courses only flood in a 50 or 100 year storm. 1000's of acres of land, serving a dual purpose, that's likely to impact TV residents, once during the time they live in The Villages.. GENIUS !

[RouseysMom]

Thank you for the helpful information.

[PersonOfInterest]

Does anyone have any recommendations on closeby courses outside of TV that are reasonably priced to play 9 or 18 holes?

Baseline, Open - Eagle Ridge, Open - Harbor Hills, Open

[Rwirish]

See Irma. Yes, normal.

[bdeminico]

Yeah, right on, and don't forget I need credit for any rainy days where there were no points, oh and days that were cart path only as I don't golf those days, and any too cold days too and heat emergency over 95 degree days too. I need my $$ credits. /s

Sounds like you should take up another hobby. Or use the "pay as you go" method

[jimdecastro]

I have been telling this to people for a week. I think MID-November is more like it. As someone on a pond, I thank God for the system - we were about a foot from the banks overflowing into my house. They are still about 2 feet above capacity. Another storm will be very costly to residents if it came now.

[sdeikenberry]

We are very lucky that the developer thought about water mitigation before building homes. Just look outside The Villages at all the flooding and realize we don’t have to deal with that.

[bowlingal]

I'm sure you can find something to do until the courses open. Do you still have your house standing? Have you been flooded out? Count your blessings and stop complaining. Many people do not a place to live.

[coleprice]

I've checked out several of the courses and they are ready to be played. Fairways are clear and dry (as a bone). Tees and Greens look great. Most courses do not have overflowing ponds, so they are ready for play. To maintain its commitment to residents of The Villages', courses that don't have overflowing ponds should be reopened immediately, while those courses with overflowing ponds should be ready for play within a week or two and reopened at that time.

[Altavia]

The home elevations in TV are no different than most anywhere else in FL. In fact, much of the construction in TV is at a higher level than most. Unlike much of FL, we don't have a nearby ocean to absorb excess drainage.

Courses are closed all over Florida, read the news.

The reason TV golf courses may appear to be more affected than other areas, is the development strategy in TV is different than in most other places. We are a golf-centric community. We need huge amounts of lateral space to accommodate the courses. Unlike most housing developments, TV opted to use that lateral space for a dual purpose ... water detention and golf. Genius move.

The majority of the golf courses don't become "drainage areas", until we reach about a 25 year storm event ... once every 25 years. Other golf courses only flood in a 50 or 100 year storm. 1000's of acres of land, serving a dual purpose, that's likely to impact TV residents, once during the time they live in The Villages.. GENIUS !

Since there is very little outflow from the area to remove the water, also impressive is the huge volume of water they are spraying over the courses and along roadways to be absorbed and evaporated.

This may be why some courses that looking playable need to stay off line to help remove water.

[coleprice]

Most courses in The Villages have been cleaned up and are ready for play - Tees, Fairways & Greens are DRY and in Great Shape. Those that don't have overflowing ponds should be reopened immediately, followed soon by courses whose ponds are lowered to acceptable levels.

[dolphin]

I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

Not surprised. And that’s only some of the executive courses

[Bill14564]

Most courses in The Villages have been cleaned up and are ready for play - Tees, Fairways & Greens are DRY and in Great Shape. Those that don't have overflowing ponds should be reopened immediately, followed soon by courses whose ponds are lowered to acceptable levels.

It's a shame you didn't attend the PWAC meeting yesterday to explain to the Manager for Executive Golf that he didn't know what he was talking about.

It's hard to reconcile your assessment with what my lying eyes are telling me about the debris I see on the courses, the water being sprayed on the courses, and the standing water covering paths and turning greens into islands.

[ankeny]

It would be nice if they used this time to aerate the greens instead of waiting until the courses open.

[BrianL99]

Most courses in The Villages have been cleaned up and are ready for play - Tees, Fairways & Greens are DRY and in Great Shape. Those that don't have overflowing ponds should be reopened immediately, followed soon by courses whose ponds are lowered to acceptable levels.

It would be nice if they used this time to aerate the greens instead of waiting until the courses open.


Perhaps The VIllages golf management should completely ignore common sense and good agronomy practices and allow posters on TOTV to make decisions about how to manage golf courses?

I'm sure that would work well.

[Rocksnap]

Sure as hell beats anyone’s house getting flooded. A small price to pay, any day of the week!

[NotGolfer]

I read these posts and it seems even with weather, golfing etc. "some" lose common sense. Just because it's not raining and the sun is shining---things don't go back to normal after hurricanes. Just be thankful you're not living on the coasts of FL or in the mountains of N.C.

[SHIBUMI]

What a great opportunity to take some golf lessons and use the practices areas to improve your game. Golf is like getting into Carnegie Hall, you have to practice.
Your friends and other TV golfers would really appreciate your getting better at it.
Don't waste this opportunity. Put the you tube down and get out there. Sweet!


I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

[Birdrm]

I live directly across from Red Fox Executive course and I took a walk around and it is certainly playable as even the low areas between tee and green have dried up now? They might be waiting for Grey Fox which is in a lower area in some spots and might still be wet?

[TeresaE]

I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.
Satellite and radar estimates, usually combined with stats from actual weather stations estimate that Hurricane Milton dumped 3.4 Trillion gallons of water on Florida. These analyses have a history of good accuracy and, if anything, can underplay the real numbers. That’s a lot of water. Let us all give thanks that our only “inconvenience” from Milton is closed golf courses.

[ThirdOfFive]

Judging from the increased vehicular traffic in the last ten days or so, I'd say there are a fair number of 'birds with their collective beaks out of joint over the closed courses.

[4$ALE]

I live directly across from Red Fox Executive course and I took a walk around and it is certainly playable as even the low areas between tee and green have dried up now? They might be waiting for Grey Fox which is in a lower area in some spots and might still be wet?

:shrug: I believe that is called "TRESPASSING". The golf courses are closed. :oops:

[4$ALE]

Perhaps The VIllages golf management should completely ignore common sense and good agronomy practices and allow posters on TOTV to make decisions about how to manage golf courses?

I'm sure that would work well.

:highfive:

I've learned in my 20 years full time here..... never say "How self-centered and arrogant can some people be?" ...... because they take it as a :censored: personal challenge.

[Maker]

HERE IS A PROBLEM SITUATION
Today, Golf courses are closed to dry out.
Ponds are being lowered by running irrigation on golf courses.
Adding more water daily.
That delays reopening for many weeks.
People are understanding, but they are not happy.

HERE IS A SOLUTION
What if everyone who uses pond water for irrigation (south areas only) were granted free use of that water for the month?
People would irrigate their lawns.
Pond levels would soon return to normal.
Golf courses would dry out very quickly without all that extra irrigation running continuously.

Golf could reopen in a week. That generates MONEY
People are happy playing golf again.
Everybody else is happy watering their lawns with free pond water.

[Bill14564]

HERE IS A PROBLEM SITUATION
Today, Golf courses are closed to dry out.
Ponds are being lowered by running irrigation on golf courses.
Adding more water daily.
That delays reopening for many weeks.
People are understanding, but they are not happy.

HERE IS A SOLUTION
What if everyone who uses pond water for irrigation (south areas only) were granted free use of that water for the month?
People would irrigate their lawns.
Pond levels would soon return to normal.
Golf courses would dry out very quickly without all that extra irrigation running continuously.

Golf could reopen in a week. That generates MONEY
People are happy playing golf again.
Everybody else is happy watering their lawns with free pond water.

Three potential problems:
1. The money that is generated does not go back to the utility company to make up for what it would lose in water bills
2. The water being pumped onto the courses may be coming from ponds that are not connected to the wastewater treatment plants but not the household irrigation system
3. We're not out of hurricane season yet and saturating your ground before a storm, particularly a storm with wind, is unwise

[Bogie Shooter]

So many experts…………….

[BrianL99]

HERE IS A PROBLEM SITUATION
Today, Golf courses are closed to dry out.
Ponds are being lowered by running irrigation on golf courses.
Adding more water daily.
That delays reopening for many weeks.
People are understanding, but they are not happy.

HERE IS A SOLUTION
What if everyone who uses pond water for irrigation (south areas only) were granted free use of that water for the month?
People would irrigate their lawns.
Pond levels would soon return to normal.
Golf courses would dry out very quickly without all that extra irrigation running continuously.

Golf could reopen in a week. That generates MONEY
People are happy playing golf again.
Everybody else is happy watering their lawns with free pond water.

It's amazing how dumb and incompetent District Management is. 40+ years of managing The Villages and all those golf courses and they've never figured this out.

Bruce Brown is the Asst. District Manager (& a 20 year USCG vet, so he knows water). Why not call him or email him and let him know your plan and get them started?

Please let us know how it all works out.

[justjim]

Plenty of time to chill out when I die.

Best post so far.

[I'm Popeye!]

Yeah, right on, and don't forget I need credit for any rainy days where there were no points, oh and days that were cart path only as I don't golf those days, and any too cold days too and heat emergency over 95 degree days too. I need my $$ credits. /s

From what I understand from your post:
You don't ask for your money back when paying in advance on a canceled concert... :coolsmiley:

[I'm Popeye!]

As I posted in a similar thread:

A change of perspective regarding the golf courses... they are primarily water retention and detention areas. When the areas aren't in use for water storage, one is welcome to use the golf courses built within to make people think they have fine golf courses. It all balances out, one just needs to develop another hobby other than golf for the "closed" days.

They already do; they spend most of their time on here... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Marathon Man]

:highfive:

I've learned in my 20 years full time here..... never say "How self-centered and arrogant can some people be?" ...... because they take it as a :censored: personal challenge.

Well said.

[Marathon Man]

HERE IS A PROBLEM SITUATION
Today, Golf courses are closed to dry out.
Ponds are being lowered by running irrigation on golf courses.
Adding more water daily.
That delays reopening for many weeks.
People are understanding, but they are not happy.

HERE IS A SOLUTION
What if everyone who uses pond water for irrigation (south areas only) were granted free use of that water for the month?
People would irrigate their lawns.
Pond levels would soon return to normal.
Golf courses would dry out very quickly without all that extra irrigation running continuously.

Golf could reopen in a week. That generates MONEY
People are happy playing golf again.
Everybody else is happy watering their lawns with free pond water.

Do you plan to take your idea to the policy makers? Sending it here will do nothing.

[tophcfa]

Reports from people who have played open courses outside the bubble would be greatly appreciated. Hoping to get out for a few rounds in the next couple weeks.

[I'm Popeye!]

Sounds like you should take up another hobby. Or use the "pay as you go" method

I've checked out several of the courses and they are ready to be played. Fairways are clear and dry (as a bone). Tees and Greens look great. Most courses do not have overflowing ponds, so they are ready for play. To maintain its commitment to residents of The Villages', courses that don't have overflowing ponds should be reopened immediately, while those courses with overflowing ponds should be ready for play within a week or two and reopened at that time.

I read somewhere that they are making the courses perfectly plush and waiting for the "Snowbirds" to arrive before they reopen.
Fake News: :jester:

[tophcfa]

I read somewhere that they are making the course perfectly plush and waiting for the "Snowbirds" to arrive before they reopen.
Fake News: :jester:

Actually, they are waiting for the Snowbirds to arrive so they can Jack up the greens fees.

[BrianL99]

Reports from people who have played open courses outside the bubble would be greatly appreciated. Hoping to get out for a few rounds in the next couple weeks.

There is not much to choose from, if you're looking for a quality course & conditions.

Juliette Falls is always in great condition. Not a great layout in my opinion, but in good shape.

Candler Hills is usually in ok condition, goofy layout.

Mission Inn has 1 great course, 1 ok course. Conditions have been spotty for the last couple of years.

Harbor Hills has a few good holes, but the conditions have always been awful when I've played there.

[Normal]

I enjoy courses outside the bubble too. It gives golfers a chance to experience new courses, dine at other places outside the villages and to meet new people.

Ocala and Orlando have great courses. But there are courses everywhere. The Continental, Pennebrooke, and Inverness just off the top of my head are all close and relatively cheap. If you really want to golf, the options are quite extensive and very affordable.

[4$ALE]

Reports from people who have played open courses outside the bubble would be greatly appreciated. Hoping to get out for a few rounds in the next couple weeks.

;) Baker's Golf Center in Lanesborough, MA | Berkshires Outside (https://berkshiresoutside.org/place/bakers-golf-center-lanesborough-ma/) :gc:

[4$ALE]

They already do; they spend most of their time on here... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

:BigApplause:

[BrianL99]

;) Baker's Golf Center in Lanesborough, MA | Berkshires Outside (https://berkshiresoutside.org/place/bakers-golf-center-lanesborough-ma/) :gc:

Driving range is too short, only 300 yards.

[kkingston57]

Does anyone have any recommendations on closeby courses outside of TV that are reasonably priced to play 9 or 18 holes?

Played Harbor Hills on 10-14. Dry but a lot of debris and rough was thick, but not any thicker than TV courses

[kkingston57]

Well said. People just don't seem to understand that costs don't go to zero when the courses are closed.

Worse, expenses higher. Tree companies are in demand and bet they are getting top dollar.

[4$ALE]

Driving range is too short, only 300 yards.

:icon_wink: I know..... I have to choke down on my irons. :1rotfl:

[HORNET]

In July of 2011, we got 9” on rain in 7 hours that started just before dusk.No storm, just a down pour. Course’s like Turtle Mound turned into one big pond. Bacall ran irrigation almost two weeks continuously. Golf Courses down for two weeks with some big restrictions afterwards! We just had a Hurricane, let them do THEIR Business!

[TSO/ISPF]

Do you plan to take your idea to the policy makers? Sending it here will do nothing.

They probably can't do it because they have no way to give credit to people on their bills. Say they give everyone a 5 thousand gallon credit on their bill for the time they ask you to run your irrigation extra days. Changing the billing programs is not in the budget.

[bsloan1960]

Just be thankful how well the system prevented flooding The Question wasn't about gratitude or lack thereof. The question was specifically about seeking information about something important to the OP. Invalidating the person's concerns by suggesting they should practice gratitude in place of their curiosity shows an unbelievably judgemental attitude toward your fellow man. Do YOU have ANY day to day concerns? If so, forget them All and be grateful you didn't get flooded.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I've checked out several of the courses and they are ready to be played. Fairways are clear and dry (as a bone). Tees and Greens look great. Most courses do not have overflowing ponds, so they are ready for play. To maintain its commitment to residents of The Villages', courses that don't have overflowing ponds should be reopened immediately, while those courses with overflowing ponds should be ready for play within a week or two and reopened at that time.

Your best bet, sport, is to stay off the courses. Did you get permission to drive out there and check them out? Didn’t think so.

[kcrazorbackfan]

So many experts…………….

With so little sense…..

[BrianL99]

They probably can't do it because they have no way to give credit to people on their bills. Say they give everyone a 5 thousand gallon credit on their bill for the time they ask you to run your irrigation extra days. Changing the billing programs is not in the budget.

How long has The Villages been around? 40+ years? Do you think District management is so dumb, they haven't considered ways to improve the storm management system?

They can't do it, because the system isn't designed that way.

[TSO/ISPF]

How long has The Villages been around? 40+ years? Do you think District management is so dumb, they haven't considered ways to improve the storm management system?

They can't do it, because the system isn't designed that way.

Don't we irrigate our lawns from the same source that the golf courses and all the sprinkler heads along the
common areas use? If the idea is to pull water from
the retention ponds then it would seem having thousands of homes putting extra water on their lawns would speed up the process.

[BrianL99]

Don't we irrigate our lawns from the same source that the golf courses and all the sprinkler heads along the
common areas use? If the idea is to pull water from
the retention ponds then it would seem having thousands of homes putting extra water on their lawns would speed up the process.

No!

[mmbella]

What about putt putt? Those courses don’t appear to be flooded.

[Maker]

How long has The Villages been around? 40+ years? Do you think District management is so dumb, they haven't considered ways to improve the storm management system?

They can't do it, because the system isn't designed that way.

"WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT THIS WAY"
often leads businesses failing because they fail to adapt to changing times or embrace new ideas.

"THEY CANNOT DO THAT IN THE SOFTWARE"
They just managed to change trash billing cost from WM to Jacobs. Surely they can change things.

[BrianL99]

"WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT THIS WAY"
often leads businesses failing because they fail to adapt to changing times or embrace new ideas.

"THEY CANNOT DO THAT IN THE SOFTWARE"
They just managed to change trash billing cost from WM to Jacobs. Surely they can change things.


It's got nothing to do with software, it has to do with how the sewerage treatment plants discharge, how the water supply system works, how the residential irrigation system work, and how the golf course irrigation/drainage/storage system functions.

You should really consider learning a little about the system and how it works, before you suggest the District doesn't know how to run the drainage and irrigation system.

Perhaps spending some time on the District.org website, will enlighten you and the others who think they know better than the folks who designed and have operated the system for 40+ years.

[Bogie Shooter]

What about putt putt? Those courses don’t appear to be flooded.

see post #86

[TSO/ISPF]

It's got nothing to do with software, it has to do with how the sewerage treatment plants discharge, how the water supply system works, how the residential irrigation system work, and how the golf course irrigation/drainage/storage system functions.

You should really consider learning a little about the system and how it works, before you suggest the District doesn't know how to run the drainage and irrigation system.

Perhaps spending some time on the District.org website, will enlighten you and the others who think they know better than the folks who designed and have operated the system for 40+ years.

More than half the villages weren't here 15 years ago.

I reviewed that document and read your drainage 101 post.

I simply wonder if running the irrigation on homesites as well as running golf course and other public irrigation would accomplish the objective more quickly.

[BrianL99]

I simply wonder if running the irrigation on homesites as well as running golf course and other public irrigation would accomplish the objective more quickly.

The Developer of The Villages has proven at least 2 things, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

1. He does what's best for his bottom line.

2. He's not dumb.

Considering the Developer still owns the majority of Exec golf courses in the south and all the championship golf courses, if there was a better way to protect his property from flood damage and loss of revenue, he'd be doing it.

[Hape2Bhr]

The Developer of The Villages has proven at least 2 things, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

1. He does what's best for his bottom line.

2. He's not dumb.

Considering the Developer still owns the majority of Exec golf courses in the south and all the championship golf courses, if there was a better way to protect his property from flood damage and loss of revenue, he'd be doing it.


And likely the courses will be in tournament play condition, with no ball marks on the greens and no divots in the fairways. Hopefully they'll be dried out enough to allow carts on the fairways.

[drcar]

HERE IS A PROBLEM SITUATION
Today, Golf courses are closed to dry out.
Ponds are being lowered by running irrigation on golf courses.
Adding more water daily.
That delays reopening for many weeks.
People are understanding, but they are not happy.

HERE IS A SOLUTION
What if everyone who uses pond water for irrigation (south areas only) were granted free use of that water for the month?
People would irrigate their lawns.
Pond levels would soon return to normal.
Golf courses would dry out very quickly without all that extra irrigation running continuously.

Golf could reopen in a week. That generates MONEY
People are happy playing golf again.
Everybody else is happy watering their lawns with free pond water.

Soory, different watering system

[BrianL99]

It's not only The Villages with closed golf courses.

This came in a few minutes ago, from Mission Resort.

[Teed_Off]

I just read in another forum that The Villages has indicated that it will likely be another three weeks before any courses will be reopened. Is this true? If true, has this ever happened before in the history of The Villages. Do you think that this is fair recovery time given the "monster" nature of Milton or do you think they should be able to reopen a few executive and championship courses sooner? I haven't been here longer to have a valid opinion so I'd like to hear from you.

Who is excited that the First Responders Putt & Play will be open tomorrow? Sorry but I won’t be getting in that line to play.

[darkim]

True or False? Rumor has it that golf courses could be closed for a month due to heavily saturated grounds following Hurricane Milton. 😟

[tophcfa]

True or False? Rumor has it that golf courses could be closed for a month due to heavily saturated grounds following Hurricane Milton. 😟

Courses are closed until FURTHER NOTICE. The time frame of “further notice” is undefined. At this point, any specific time frame is strictly rumor. The only certainty is the courses will be closed for at least a week, because that time has already passed.

[DonH57]

Who is excited that the First Responders Putt & Play will be open tomorrow? Sorry but I won’t be getting in that line to play.

LOL. Never played it. Is that another practice course you get charged points for like Marsh Bend?

[Marathon Man]

Golf The Villages (https://www.golfthevillages.com/)

This will help you in the future.

[Normal]

True or False? Rumor has it that golf courses could be closed for a month due to heavily saturated grounds following Hurricane Milton. ������

It’s kind of like hearing, “You are grounded for life” as a teenager. There are plenty of courses outside the Villages to golf though.

[UpNorth]

Deer Island open on the 19th. Nice natural setting, great design - puts most Villages courses to shame. And a cart is included. ;)

[dewilson58]

Deer Island open on the 19th. Nice natural setting, great design - puts most Villages courses to shame. And a cart is included. ;)

Jus tried six days, 2 golfers................zero results.

:shrug::shrug:

[xkeowner]

Jus tried six days, 2 golfers................zero results.

:shrug::shrug:

Golf Now app shows tee times available for two player Sat, Sun, Mon and Tues. Don't know what days or times you were looking at.

[Normal]

Golf Now app shows tee times available for two player Sat, Sun, Mon and Tues. Don't know what days or times you were looking at.

Yep, open all over the place, love the whites.

[Flyers999]

LOL. Never played it. Is that another practice course you get charged points for like Marsh Bend?

No, one doesnt get charged points at the Putt and play or putting courses. This includes the Fenney and Clifton Cove as well as the First Responder. One can't make a tee time either, it's just "Show up." You're supposed to have your village id but I've never been carded.
You're probably thinking of the Pitch and Putt courses which are managed like executives.

[MrChip72]

This just in:

GOLF: The following courses will reopen on the dates listed below:

Monday, October 21, 2024

Briarwood
El Diablo
El Santiago
Gray Fox
Hill Top
Red Fox
Walnut Grove

Thursday, October 24, 2024:

Oakleigh

[MSchad]

Jus tried six days, 2 golfers................zero results.

:shrug::shrug:
All kinds of open tee times.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Homes in the Historic section don't have access to retention ponds for lawn irrigation. Our lawns are watered with the same water that comes out of our tap and runs out of our showerheads. I'm pretty sure there are other parts of the Villages, in the northern areas, that also have single sources for all their H2O needs.

[dewilson58]

All kinds of open tee times.
Yes.............seeing them now.

:beer3: