Daylight Savings Time… torture

[asianthree]

When will this torture end.. So my normal sleep schedule is meditating yoga, or easy swim, then reading around 10-11p. REM around midnight to 3:30a move into light sleep and fully awake before 4a. I am ready for a 20 hour ish day, refreshed and renewed.

On my third day of fully awake at 2:30a. 4 hours I’m good, 3 not so much. With sleepy time tea, sleep oils, Vicks, soap at feet, and natural sleep aide every night sleep still alluding my well being. It takes months to recover my day light savings sleep loss, just when recovery is in my grasp, here it comes again. Can’t take prescription anything, causes severe night terrors. Sleep clinics love me for my almost all REM sleep. Even our cat has difficulty with feeding schedule.

Have been a satisfied four hour sleeper forever, just like my father, grandparents, and their parents, before them.

Anyone else find adapting twice a year just wrong.

[ThirdOfFive]

When will this torture end.. So my normal sleep schedule is meditating yoga, or easy swim, then reading around 10-11p. REM around midnight to 3:30a move into light sleep and fully awake before 4a. I am ready for a 20 hour ish day, refreshed and renewed.

On my third day of fully awake at 2:30a. 4 hours I’m good, 3 not so much. With sleepy time tea, sleep oils, Vicks, soap at feet, and natural sleep aide every night sleep still alluding my well being. It takes months to recover my day light savings sleep loss, just when recovery is in my grasp, here it comes again. Can’t take prescription anything, causes severe night terrors. Sleep clinics love me for my almost all REM sleep. Even our cat has difficulty with feeding schedule.

Have been a satisfied four hour sleeper forever, just like my father, grandparents, and their parents, before them.

Anyone else find adapting twice a year just wrong.
I have no problem adjusting to going ONTO DST, but when we go off in November it takes me about a week before my body and sleep cycle adapts.

[Two Bills]

I must be one of life's lucky guys regarding sleep and time change.
I can manage with little or no sleep for quite sustained periods, yet can drop off to sleep anywhere by just closing my eyes.
Never been a problem for me.

[Hape2Bhr]

When will this torture end.. So my normal sleep schedule is meditating yoga, or easy swim, then reading around 10-11p. REM around midnight to 3:30a move into light sleep and fully awake before 4a. I am ready for a 20 hour ish day, refreshed and renewed.

On my third day of fully awake at 2:30a. 4 hours I’m good, 3 not so much. With sleepy time tea, sleep oils, Vicks, soap at feet, and natural sleep aide every night sleep still alluding my well being. It takes months to recover my day light savings sleep loss, just when recovery is in my grasp, here it comes again. Can’t take prescription anything, causes severe night terrors. Sleep clinics love me for my almost all REM sleep. Even our cat has difficulty with feeding schedule.

Have been a satisfied four hour sleeper forever, just like my father, grandparents, and their parents, before them.

Anyone else find adapting twice a year just wrong.

I wonder how you deal with cross country and international vacations?

[BrianL99]

I wonder how you deal with cross country and international vacations?

I'm not sure how anyone deals with life, when a one hour time change, throws their life into a tizzy.

[MrFlorida]

It's only an hour, you'll survive.

[Topspinmo]

Stop looking at clock. When I retired I stopped letting clocks be boss. Besides one hour doesn’t make difference. All in our heads. And for some of us in goes in one side and out the other. And for others it just bounces around for couple weeks. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

[Bay Kid]

Such a shame we have to change time 2 times a year. I'm ready for the change to stop. Maybe 1 good vote to end this.

[Altavia]

I'm not sure how anyone deals with life, when a one hour time change, throws their life into a tizzy.

The OP recently posted having over 40K of damage from Milton so I'm sure dealing with the aftermath isn't helping.

[gorillarick]

old Indian say; "only the government would think taking a foot off the top of a blanket, and adding it to the bottom would make the blanket longer."

used to say; 'the only good thing about DST is that in forces everyone to set their clocks twice a year.'
Now most are automatic.

Yeah, get rid of the nonsense !

[Stu from NYC]

One hour no big deal, harder when we travel overseas

[kkingston57]

I wonder how you deal with cross country and international vacations?

Had same ideas. Worst trip is going to Europe. Over-night flight and in most cases person can not check into a hotel

[kkingston57]

old Indian say; "only the government would think taking a foot off the top of a blanket, and adding it to the bottom would make the blanket longer."

used to say; 'the only good thing about DST is that in forces everyone to set their clocks twice a year.'
Now most are automatic.

Yeah, get rid of the nonsense !

Nonsense is state of Arizona. They do not change. 1/2 of the year they are on Pacific time and other 1/2 they are on Mountain time.

[tophcfa]

I hate turning back the clocks, but not because it effects my sleep, it adversely effects my daily activities. Not being an early morning person, the hours of daylight are simply too short to get in the usual schedule of activities. If they would only keep the sports pools open for lap swimming a couple hours after it gets dark!

[Bill14564]

DST doesn't affect me much; it isn't too hard to get up an hour earlier or an hour later, especially now that I'm retired and don't have anywhere to be. But what value is there in DST and if none then why go through all the trouble? If DST is just an example of cutting the ends off the Christmas ham then we could save a lot of trouble and complaining by simply ending it.

[fdpaq0580]

Military service sent me west to rendezvous with my ship. Ship ultimately headed west. When transferred, I was sent west, again, and ended up back in the U. S.
For over 5 decades I have been one sunrise (day) behind everyone else. An hour either way ain't gonna matter much.

[Pugchief]

What would you guys complain about every March and November if they got rid of it?

Nonetheless, it is insane that they still make us do this. Hmm, maybe that's it: they make us do it just bc they can.

[Velvet]

I strongly prefer not to change the clocks back and forth. It is simply a nuisance.

[asianthree]

So little background. My father’s side are of European descent. Parents, grandparents and for centuries came from 100 mile radius of Villages. Apparently their gift, or curse is each only required a few hours of sleep. Unlike most we REM almost immediately no light sleep transition until the last 15-30 minutes. The Village decents have been studied for many years, and have many medical articles written. Most of us have lived long lives into their mid to late nineties, however we all have passed on a rare kidney issue every other generation.

I am the first gen who was not born of both parents from same village area. Only 3 out of 19 cousins that have the ability to only need 4 hours of sleep. Out of my 3 children 2 have the same ability, and one of our grandchildren shows same unique abilities.
We have zero devices that cause light in bedroom including clocks. Since we awake at the same time, no need for light interference of alarm clocks.
I do not nap, and when working if I missed my sleep time, I could with zero issues wait until following night.
Travel does not effect me, I just don’t sleep until my next time slot, but we usually took 6-8 weeks in summers traveling Europe, US and Canada, so plenty of time to adjust.

I attend a sleep clinic once a year for the continued study as does my children and grand. Since I brought up the time change inquiry the last two years of only 3 hours, My next study will be on next time change.

My question was of the general population, Do you have sleep issues due to time change.

[Rwirish]

Life is so difficult.

[mntlblok]

My question was of the general population, Do you have sleep issues due to time change.

Sleep is a most fascinating subject to me. Just learnt that not everyone accepts PMs from ToTV.

[Rzepecki]

Stop looking at clock. When I retired I stopped letting clocks be boss. Besides one hour doesn’t make difference. All in our heads. And for some of us in goes in one side and out the other. And for others it just bounces around for couple weeks. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

Agree. Just don’t think about it. Other than changing a couple clocks, my life goes on without noticing a time change.

[FredMitchell]

It is Daylight Saving Time (only one "s").

If you want a solution, two obvious choices are:

Set your watch / phone / or some clock to UTC and set your schedule by it.
Move to Arizona.

[MandoMan]

When will this torture end.. So my normal sleep schedule is meditating yoga, or easy swim, then reading around 10-11p. REM around midnight to 3:30a move into light sleep and fully awake before 4a. I am ready for a 20 hour ish day, refreshed and renewed.

On my third day of fully awake at 2:30a. 4 hours I’m good, 3 not so much. With sleepy time tea, sleep oils, Vicks, soap at feet, and natural sleep aide every night sleep still alluding my well being. It takes months to recover my day light savings sleep loss, just when recovery is in my grasp, here it comes again. Can’t take prescription anything, causes severe night terrors. Sleep clinics love me for my almost all REM sleep. Even our cat has difficulty with feeding schedule.

Have been a satisfied four hour sleeper forever, just like my father, grandparents, and their parents, before them.

Anyone else find adapting twice a year just wrong.

Move to Arizona—or Cancun. They don’t use Daylight Savings Time.
I assume you also never travel.
My sleep cycle is affected more by the seemingly swift decrease in daylight hours in October and increase in the spring. When it’s dark, it’s time to do night things, like lie in bed and watch Netflix.

[gorillarick]

I hate turning back the clocks, but not because it effects my sleep, it adversely effects my daily activities. Not being an early morning person, the hours of daylight are simply too short to get in the usual schedule of activities. If they would only keep the sports pools open for lap swimming a couple hours after it gets dark!
Yeah, pools open for a few hours after dark. That was one of my biggest gripes when I first moved here.
Who makes the dam rules here? Shouldn't it be us?
I don't see why I can't go for a dip at midnight if I want to; as long as I don't disturb the neighbors.
If I drown, ts; I'm been an adult - for a long dam time.

[oneclickplus]

When will this torture end.. So my normal sleep schedule is meditating yoga, or easy swim, then reading around 10-11p. REM around midnight to 3:30a move into light sleep and fully awake before 4a. I am ready for a 20 hour ish day, refreshed and renewed.

On my third day of fully awake at 2:30a. 4 hours I’m good, 3 not so much. With sleepy time tea, sleep oils, Vicks, soap at feet, and natural sleep aide every night sleep still alluding my well being. It takes months to recover my day light savings sleep loss, just when recovery is in my grasp, here it comes again. Can’t take prescription anything, causes severe night terrors. Sleep clinics love me for my almost all REM sleep. Even our cat has difficulty with feeding schedule.

Have been a satisfied four hour sleeper forever, just like my father, grandparents, and their parents, before them.

Anyone else find adapting twice a year just wrong.

Just stay up at night and extra hour and you are back in sync.

[Switter]

Such a shame we have to change time 2 times a year. I'm ready for the change to stop. Maybe 1 good vote to end this.

I'm with you on stopping it. But I prefer to go on permanent DST. I'd rather have the extra hour of daylight in the evening versus the morning.

[aces_04]

I want to go to bed as soon as it is dark. My cat on the other hand is not adapting to this human problem. I gave up long ago. It’s not her fault humans have this timesaving bull.

[KAM+6]

Just stay up at night and e

xtra hour and you are back in sync.

Problem solved!!!

[Bay Kid]

I'm with you on stopping it. But I prefer to go on permanent DST. I'd rather have the extra hour of daylight in the evening versus the morning.

They could just change it 30 minutes either way and forget it forever. Simple fix.

[airstreamingypsy]

My dog is my alarm clock. He puts his big old head on my bed at 7:45, like clockwork, all summer. Problem is, now he's putting his head on my bed at 6:45...... I want DST year round please.

[Joe C.]

When we change form DST to EST, I adjust my clocks accordingly. But then, the trick is to ignore them. I go to bed when I'm tired, and I get up when I feel like it. The only time I pay attention to the clock is if I have an appointment somewhere. Other than that, whatever the hands of the clock point to is not important to me.

[Michael 61]

I’m glad to be back on “real time” - back to playing pickleball at 630AM

[Professor]

When will this torture end.. So my normal sleep schedule is meditating yoga, or easy swim, then reading around 10-11p. REM around midnight to 3:30a move into light sleep and fully awake before 4a. I am ready for a 20 hour ish day, refreshed and renewed.

On my third day of fully awake at 2:30a. 4 hours I’m good, 3 not so much. With sleepy time tea, sleep oils, Vicks, soap at feet, and natural sleep aide every night sleep still alluding my well being. It takes months to recover my day light savings sleep loss, just when recovery is in my grasp, here it comes again. Can’t take prescription anything, causes severe night terrors. Sleep clinics love me for my almost all REM sleep. Even our cat has difficulty with feeding schedule.

Have been a satisfied four hour sleeper forever, just like my father, grandparents, and their parents, before them.

Anyone else find adapting twice a year just wrong.

Just because the country changes time doesn't mean you have to. The hours you keep won't interfere with any daytime activities either way...so just don't change. Seems simple enough. I'm a 6 hour a night sleeper and I keep the same sleep time and awake time all year long. Maybe I'm the strange one...

[jimjamuser]

What would you guys complain about every March and November if they got rid of it?

Nonetheless, it is insane that they still make us do this. Hmm, maybe that's it: they make us do it just bc they can.
It is done for a good purpose - to allow School Children to be safe as they walk or bus to SCHOOL. I am sorry that I have to write about something so OBVIOUS.

[jimjamuser]

So little background. My father’s side are of European descent. Parents, grandparents and for centuries came from 100 mile radius of Villages. Apparently their gift, or curse is each only required a few hours of sleep. Unlike most we REM almost immediately no light sleep transition until the last 15-30 minutes. The Village decents have been studied for many years, and have many medical articles written. Most of us have lived long lives into their mid to late nineties, however we all have passed on a rare kidney issue every other generation.

I am the first gen who was not born of both parents from same village area. Only 3 out of 19 cousins that have the ability to only need 4 hours of sleep. Out of my 3 children 2 have the same ability, and one of our grandchildren shows same unique abilities.
We have zero devices that cause light in bedroom including clocks. Since we awake at the same time, no need for light interference of alarm clocks.
I do not nap, and when working if I missed my sleep time, I could with zero issues wait until following night.
Travel does not effect me, I just don’t sleep until my next time slot, but we usually took 6-8 weeks in summers traveling Europe, US and Canada, so plenty of time to adjust.

I attend a sleep clinic once a year for the continued study as does my children and grand. Since I brought up the time change inquiry the last two years of only 3 hours, My next study will be on next time change.

My question was of the general population, Do you have sleep issues due to time change.
You are very lucky. You can accomplish a lot more than the average person that needs 8 hours of sleep. I wish that I could do that. I sleep for 9 hours many nights because I wake up to go to the bathroom every 3 hours. Therefore I never make it to the deep type of sleep like you are experiencing. And no - the change of daylight savings time did NOT affect me. I am messed up either way.

[jimjamuser]

Yeah, pools open for a few hours after dark. That was one of my biggest gripes when I first moved here.
Who makes the dam rules here? Shouldn't it be us?
I don't see why I can't go for a dip at midnight if I want to; as long as I don't disturb the neighbors.
If I drown, ts; I'm been an adult - for a long dam time.
You yourself might swim quietly at midnight, but many other people would get drunk and disorderly. that is why they MUST close the gates.

[Kelevision]

When will this torture end.. So my normal sleep schedule is meditating yoga, or easy swim, then reading around 10-11p. REM around midnight to 3:30a move into light sleep and fully awake before 4a. I am ready for a 20 hour ish day, refreshed and renewed.

On my third day of fully awake at 2:30a. 4 hours I’m good, 3 not so much. With sleepy time tea, sleep oils, Vicks, soap at feet, and natural sleep aide every night sleep still alluding my well being. It takes months to recover my day light savings sleep loss, just when recovery is in my grasp, here it comes again. Can’t take prescription anything, causes severe night terrors. Sleep clinics love me for my almost all REM sleep. Even our cat has difficulty with feeding schedule.

Have been a satisfied four hour sleeper forever, just like my father, grandparents, and their parents, before them.

Anyone else find adapting twice a year just wrong.

I don’t even notice it but then again I travel a lot so I’m used to the time changes.

[fdpaq0580]

Yeah, pools open for a few hours after dark. That was one of my biggest gripes when I first moved here.
Who makes the dam rules here? Shouldn't it be us?
I don't see why I can't go for a dip at midnight if I want to; as long as I don't disturb the neighbors.
If I drown, ts; I'm been an adult - for a long dam time.

Oh, great! We show up for a morning dip and there you are, floating face down in the pool. What a great start to our day! How could you be so selfish. If you're gonna drown, do it at home so we don't have to look at your bloated, naked body. Midnight dip? You would be skinny dipping. Admit it! 😠🤬😖

[fdpaq0580]

Just because the country changes time doesn't mean you have to. The hours you keep won't interfere with any daytime activities either way...so just don't change. Seems simple enough. I'm a 6 hour a night sleeper and I keep the same sleep time and awake time all year long. Maybe I'm the strange one...

Yes! 🙂🙃🫠😉

[fdpaq0580]

Here's a thought. How about that instead of switching 1 hour twice a year, we move standard time ahead 1/2 hour and leave it there! end of problem!
😠😡🤬

[fdpaq0580]

It is done for a good purpose - to allow School Children to be safe as they walk or bus to SCHOOL. I am sorry that I have to write about something so OBVIOUS.

Umm. Not so obvious, imho. Depends on where you live as to how many hours of daylight you location gets. In far north the sun may not rise at all. DST is meaningless if there is little to no daylight at all. ???

[Bay Kid]

Here's a thought. How about that instead of switching 1 hour twice a year, we move standard time ahead 1/2 hour and leave it there! end of problem!
😠😡🤬

I have been saying this for years. Too simple a fix???

[fdpaq0580]

I have been saying this for years. Too simple a fix???

Great minds think alike!

[Dusty_Star]

When will this torture end... Even our cat has difficulty with feeding schedule....

I don't change. I stay on DST. I also do not change the feeding time of my dog. The phone/other digital things change, so I do know what time it is, which is only needed for appointments or other meetings. I've been doing it this way for decades. No torture.

[JoMar]

As I remember, Florida passed a bill setting DST as the permanent time. The US Senate also passed it. The US House did not.

[mntlblok]

As I remember, Florida passed a bill setting DST as the permanent time. The US Senate also passed it. The US House did not.

Did not remember but it sent me googling. Found this. reuters.com (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/)

[asianthree]

Oh, great! We show up for a morning dip and there you are, floating face down in the pool. What a great start to our day! How could you be so selfish. If you're gonna drown, do it at home so we don't have to look at your bloated, naked body. Midnight dip? You would be skinny dipping. Admit it! 😠🤬😖

Wouldn’t be the first time a floater was found in one of TVs pools. Last one was only a few years ago.

[asianthree]

You are very lucky. You can accomplish a lot more than the average person that needs 8 hours of sleep. I wish that I could do that. I sleep for 9 hours many nights because I wake up to go to the bathroom every 3 hours. Therefore I never make it to the deep type of sleep like you are experiencing. And no - the change of daylight savings time did NOT affect me. I am messed up either way.

For 45 plus years it was great. 30 straight days of call was easy, sick kids, no problem. Grocery at midnight was pure bliss. One can fill 20 hours a day easily working 50-60 hour weeks.

After I returned (retired for 7 days) to work my Covid 2 year stint, decided to try retirement again.
We don’t have 24/7 gyms, grocery, to fill 20 mind numbing hours.

If I run at midnight CC will always stop and ask if you are OK, until they get to know you. I can read a book a day easily, but here the thing, when you have a spouse that sleeps 8-10 hours a day. You are basically trying to find ways to accomplish things that don’t require lights or noise.
Now I understand why my dad worked into his 80s. Money wasn’t the driving point but it was filling the 20 hours of awake time.

It has been brought to my attention that my dad in his mid 70s started sleeping only 3 hours. Have contacted his 2 living brothers to see if they reduced sleep time later in life. This may be the key it’s not daylight saving time, but REM is moving to the next chapter.

[Bay Kid]

As I remember, Florida passed a bill setting DST as the permanent time. The US Senate also passed it. The US House did not.

Maybe they can get it together next year. Let's give them a push.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Prescription medicine dictates my sleep cycle, so I'm completely unaffected by the time changes. I sleep anywhere between 6-8 hours, as long as I take my zolpidem. If I take it at 3 in the afternoon, I'm asleep by 3:40, and stay asleep for at least 6 hours.

Chronic insomnia stinks. But medicated chronic insomnia is bliss.

[buzzy]

How about if we change 10 minutes a week, starting six Saturdays from the full cutover?

[fdpaq0580]

How about if we change 10 minutes a week, starting six Saturdays from the full cutover?

😶😟😳😱 One for the rubber room! And double lock on the door, OK!

[Velvet]

😶😟😳😱 One for the rubber room! And double lock on the door, OK!

Too funny!

[fdpaq0580]

Maybe they can get it together next year. Let's give them a push.

I ain't touching them! You don't know where they've been!

Ewww!

[Bay Kid]

I ain't touching them! You don't know where they've been!

Ewww!

Some in the swamp.

[coffeebean]

Here's a thought. How about that instead of switching 1 hour twice a year, we move standard time ahead 1/2 hour and leave it there! end of problem!
😠😡🤬

Seems like an easy fix but I realized we would be a half hour off from most of the world. When traveling internationally, that would be difficult.

[fdpaq0580]

Seems like an easy fix but I realized we would be a half hour off from most of the world. When traveling internationally, that would be difficult.

Wtong! They would be half an hour off from us! Simple mater of perspective.

Or, we could ask England to relocate Greenwich an appropriate distance to the east. That shouldn't be a problem.

[Bjeanj]

It now gets dark at 5:00 PM, which I don’t care for. Personal opinion.