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marvinh11791
11-23-2024, 12:41 PM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

Bogie Shooter
11-23-2024, 12:47 PM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

How did you do that?

vintageogauge
11-23-2024, 12:58 PM
North of 466 does have a lot of older residents but a lot of those residents have their kids and grandkids living with them. When you read police or crime reports most of them are by these kids and grandkids that live with the old timers up north. Go south old man go south.

frayedends
11-23-2024, 02:06 PM
I’m in the southern area, Lake Denham. I am 55 and I will be full time some time next fall. We like that there are more young folks in our area. That being said we have no issue with older folks either. There is definitely more of a party vibe in our area from what I’ve seen. If you are the type to complain about driveway parties or someone having a beer in the pool you may prefer up north. If you are the type to complain to ARC about a bird statue on someone’s lawn then probably best to go up north. Of course complainers come in all ages. But definitely seems more laid back in the south.

marvinh11791
11-23-2024, 02:32 PM
How did you do that?

By reading this forum and asking my sales agent. Marvinh

shut the front door
11-23-2024, 03:18 PM
It really makes no difference. For the most part, people in TV hang with people who have the same interests. Golf, pickleball, clubs.... I have friends ranging from 10 years younger than me to 20 years older than me. You need to come here and stay in various areas and find out for yourself. Don't let people try to tell you what area is best because everyone thinks that their area is better. Also check crime stats for the city/area you will be in. Lady Lake, Leesburg, Fruitland Park, Wildwood... all have areas in or bordering TV. Although some consider it a viallges bashing rag, that other news site also provides some info about various crimes.

Mleeja
11-23-2024, 04:09 PM
I had one person in a golf group saying people up north are older. We started comparing ages. I was the youngest in the group. Where do I live? Yep, north of 466. The homes may be older, but people move, die, etc. Find an area that best meets your needs and buy there.

graciegirl
11-23-2024, 04:16 PM
How did you do that?

I agree Bogie. OLD friend.

This subject has been a button pusher for me and now that I am really older it really makes me steam.

As YOU know Bogie......I have always said that younger folks might be surprised just how much fun twenty years on a person can be........but now I think, Oh stop..........go play with the kids.

Marathon Man
11-23-2024, 04:16 PM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

So, here is my question: After reading all the comments on here, will it still be a concern for you? If so, consider that a priority when you select your home. You don't want to live with a concern.

OrangeBlossomBaby
11-23-2024, 04:55 PM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

Did none of the answers in your two previous threads help you? You seem overly concerned with age. This is a 55+ ACTIVE senior community of over 150,000 people and around 70 square miles of real estate. Consider the average 80-year-old HERE in The Villages is still playing golf, pickleball, shooting arrows at the archery range, dancing, socializing, and yes - some of them even still have sex.

And there are some 50-somethings who don't do much of any of the above, but prefer shuffleboard, board games, watching TV, and book clubs.

Your neighborhood will be a mixed bag, either moving in today, or within the next 4 years. You've been talking about maybe moving here for several years already, and had your lifestyle visit several years ago.

If you're still physically active and interested in LIVING a dream instead of just dreaming about it, you probably should move down now while you can.

Please check your previous threads for lots of responses regarding age and living in The Villages (including another one with the same question you have in this thread):

January 2023: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/ages-residents-north-vs-southern-area-338461/

November 2021: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/average-age-villager-326023/

GreggC69
11-23-2024, 04:58 PM
Marvin - I am curious re your research. Was it just anecdotal comments by your realtor? I'd be interested for you to share those results. What is the average age in the north? Does it drop consistently as you go south? What is the average age in the south?

asianthree
11-23-2024, 05:45 PM
I agree Bogie. OLD friend.

This subject has been a button pusher for me and now that I am really older it really makes me steam.

As YOU know Bogie......I have always said that younger folks might be surprised just how much fun twenty years on a person can be........but now I think, Oh stop..........go play with the kids.

Why does age bother you so much. I do remember when a group named under 55 was organizing you seemed upset that you could be excluded. I have zero problems with the under 55 wanting to have their own club. It was mentioned the other day the under 50 club, is waitlisted.

We keep moving south, leaving villages that basically are older than my parents. Not that I don’t respect older, wiser and those great stories the WW guys tell, when I visit for few hours……But I moved out of my parents house at 18 really don’t want to live with that age group. It kind of bothers them when you are running at 3am, when they think you should be sleeping.

CarlR33
11-23-2024, 05:49 PM
Did none of the answers in your two previous threads help you? You seem overly concerned with age. This is a 55+ ACTIVE senior community of over 150,000 people and around 70 square miles of real estate. Consider the average 80-year-old HERE in The Villages is still playing golf, pickleball, shooting arrows at the archery range, dancing, socializing, and yes - some of them even still have sex.

And there are some 50-somethings who don't do much of any of the above, but prefer shuffleboard, board games, watching TV, and book clubs.

Your neighborhood will be a mixed bag, either moving in today, or within the next 4 years. You've been talking about maybe moving here for several years already, and had your lifestyle visit several years ago.

If you're still physically active and interested in LIVING a dream instead of just dreaming about it, you probably should move down now while you can.

Please check your previous threads for lots of responses regarding age and living in The Villages (including another one with the same question you have in this thread):

January 2023: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/ages-residents-north-vs-southern-area-338461/

November 2021: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/average-age-villager-326023/LOL, and they should know by now they could have been here and moved their 1-3 (average) times since 2021? Anyhow, you’re not the only outsider that makes multiple cold feet posts on this site. Come on down you will be fine.

asianthree
11-23-2024, 05:54 PM
Marvin - I am curious re your research. Was it just anecdotal comments by your realtor? I'd be interested for you to share those results. What is the average age in the north? Does it drop consistently as you go south? What is the average age in the south?

We have some in their 40s in our neighborhood. Not living with mommy, but own their own home. Most of our neighbors in our last couple neighborhoods between the 6s were in their 80s and up. Below 70 was few.

I highly doubt you will get an accurate age average per village, but I will say I am not the only one running late, south of 44. Big difference is police presence south of 44. I wave at the Wildwood LEO every time, give them a thumbs up when they are writing a ticket.

GreggC69
11-23-2024, 07:46 PM
Asian3, I really doubt that your running at 3am bothers your "old" neighbors.

Smalley
11-23-2024, 07:51 PM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

We live in the north and would choose the north again.
I also have the impression that the average age is older up north. If you haven't rented at all, most advice urges potential residents to rent for a while first. Unless you are okay with moving to a second location after you buy your first house. We rented several times during winter......all in the north. The rentals taught us lessons about where exactly we wanted to locate. Good luck.

jimhoward
11-23-2024, 11:02 PM
I wouldn’t go all the way down to Eastport, because you would be living in construction for most of the rest of your expected life. Plus brand new homes, villager style, are fixer-uppers. But it is nice and friendly down here. You could count on nice neighbors.

Topspinmo
11-23-2024, 11:09 PM
North of 466 does have a lot of older residents but a lot of those residents have their kids and grandkids living with them. When you read police or crime reports most of them are by these kids and grandkids that live with the old timers up north. Go south old man go south.

Moochers are not territorial there south of 466A and 44 also.

Topspinmo
11-23-2024, 11:10 PM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

That about the last thing on my list when house hunting, but that me.

RoadToad
11-24-2024, 04:32 AM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

You might want to research taxes and insurance here as well as Bonds and other money pits.

Two Bills
11-24-2024, 05:25 AM
Nearing 80 years old!
I would go to the established area between 466 and 466A.
Most services, shops etc. in abundance and area populated with a healthy mix of ages.
As mentioned in earlier posts, the newer areas are still work in progress, with nowhere near the facilities of the established areas.

asianthree
11-24-2024, 05:47 AM
Asian3, I really doubt that your running at 3am bothers your "old" neighbors.

That you would be wrong..those that have cameras ping when I ran in our 3 other neighborhoods. Ya know that truck with the blinking yellow light (CW), stops when someone is out after dark to ask if you are LOST. Do you NEED help? First time it happened in 2007 scared the crap out of me @2am. Is all I could see was outline of a person, standing next to a truck. No intro just why are you outside?)

The conversation was brought up every monthly driveway party, that new person who bought _______house (she’s dead) runs around the neighborhood all hours of the night. Must be up to no good…….:evil6: That’s like living with your parents….

Neighborhood average age was 90% original, so lates 70s-99 (3WWguys). When one is in their 50s it is neighboring with your parents.

Marathon Man
11-24-2024, 05:52 AM
Nearing 80 years old!
I would go to the established area between 466 and 466A.
Most services, shops etc. in abundance and area populated with a healthy mix of ages.
As mentioned in earlier posts, the newer areas are still work in progress, with nowhere near the facilities of the established areas.

Good advice

bowlingal
11-24-2024, 06:04 AM
Just be aware of the tax implications and the bond issues south of 44. Also, Coleman prison is near.

MandoMan
11-24-2024, 06:13 AM
North of 466 does have a lot of older residents but a lot of those residents have their kids and grandkids living with them. When you read police or crime reports most of them are by these kids and grandkids that live with the old timers up north. Go south old man go south.

While you are right that many of the crimes innThe Villages are done by the children or grandchildren of people living here, it is a very small percentage of people here who have a child or grandchild living with them. Sometimes people take in children having drug problems, or children who can’t hold down a job, or children with mental challenges, but often they are being cared for by one of their children. These people are found throughout The Villages, not only north of 466. I’d say that people in the newest neighborhoods, many of whom have just retired or have not yet retired, will see someone who is 80 as old enough to be their parent and be less friendly.

If you are 80, I’d recommend a small villa and downsize your belongings. You may not need a houseful of furniture and a closet full of clothes.

asianthree
11-24-2024, 06:13 AM
Just be aware of the tax implications and the bond issues south of 44. Also, Coleman prison is near.

But at least “Coleman is behind very high fences, and if they should escape, they would RUN past 44 to the North:crap2:…. If the bad guys live with Mommy, the are free to roam at anytime. Plus nobody notices the lights, or speakers, or can see the guards at the towers.
Then again once “Coleman” is obsolete, it will close. Could be the next new “Villain Village With a themed hotel”:eclipsee_gold_cup:

Rwirish
11-24-2024, 06:16 AM
Very little difference in age.

coleprice
11-24-2024, 06:21 AM
There is a good mix of people of various ages in both the Northern & Southern regions of The Villages. The people in the Southern Areas tend to be a little younger, but many of the original residents of the Northern areas, who are now in their 70's and 80's have sold to younger people in their 50's and 60's. If you decide to buy in the North and can afford it, avoid purchasing in the “Historical” (original) Villages area EAST of 441/27, which have mostly "Double-Wide" type Manufactured & Site Built homes. That is the "higher crime" area where many of the original resident's kids moved in to their inheritance. Other areas in the North are just as nice and peaceful as the South. Also, if you are a golfer, you defiantly want to buy a home in the North or Middle of The Villages where there are plenty of Executive Golf Courses. The South has far FEWER Golf Courses, with the exception of "Pitch & Puts". Also, homes in the South have a "BOND", and often require landscaping and interior enhancements that preowned homes in the Middle & Southern regions already have.

banjobob
11-24-2024, 06:30 AM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH
Its make no difference where you live north or south, if you are healthy active and enjoy the outdoors and lots of activity the entire Villages is your choice . The main concern should be the closeness of the essential services you need. Shopping , banking, doctors etc. Your personality determines how happy you will be., the friends you make.

La lamy
11-24-2024, 06:40 AM
I go south a lot for pickleball but like living north where everything is more convenient to get to. If I was you, I'd choose to be north. But coming here to check it all out is the usual way to make a well informed decision. Good luck and come enjoy!

RoboVil
11-24-2024, 07:15 AM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH
The further South you go, the farther you are from stores and other established businesses, and in general, newer, younger Villagers. The older sections in the North have more of a mix between older and younger people. However, those Northern homes are older too. I would not go as far South as Eastport. Maybe the new Richmond area near Brownwood would be a good location. But really, rent a place first and discover what is most important to you.

vintageogauge
11-24-2024, 07:22 AM
Moochers are not territorial there south of 466A and 44 also.

But most of the crimes committed by them seem to be north of 466.

mraines
11-24-2024, 07:22 AM
North of 466 does have a lot of older residents but a lot of those residents have their kids and grandkids living with them. When you read police or crime reports most of them are by these kids and grandkids that live with the old timers up north. Go south old man go south.
Sorry, I live on the Historic side. I am quite happy here. Yes, there is some crime, but that is everywhere. I like that we are not all "cookie cutter" houses and we have trees.

terryf484
11-24-2024, 07:23 AM
I am 81 and live right next door to Sawgrass Grove. Belong to a golf group that have a varying age group. Love it here.

vintageogauge
11-24-2024, 07:25 AM
But at least “Coleman is behind very high fences, and if they should escape, they would RUN past 44 to the North:crap2:…. If the bad guys live with Mommy, the are free to roam at anytime. Plus nobody notices the lights, or speakers, or can see the guards at the towers.
Then again once “Coleman” is obsolete, it will close. Could be the next new “Villain Village With a themed hotel”:eclipsee_gold_cup:

No one has ever escaped from the Coleman Prison, only a couple from the half way minimum security houses, so safety issue there.

JakeW
11-24-2024, 07:36 AM
We live in the North, it is slowly getting younger. We are in our late 60’s but have friends in their 80’s . I think it makes no difference, we just liked the north because of being closer to big stores by golf cart ( or car) .

beckylou152
11-24-2024, 07:43 AM
I live south of 44 and love it, but I would definitely consider any area in TV. Some of our best friends are close to 80 and just built a new home in the Eastport area. They love being around the younger folks and newer areas. Just pick the place that has what you want. Do you love to shop? Move further north. Do you love to walk or bike? All of the walking and biking paths are below 44 for the most part. Do you love to golf? You can live anywhere but easier access is above 44 (we golf but don’t mind a 20-30 min golf cart ride). Do you want a new home? Or is preowned ok? Etc. we have friends of all ages.

BlueStarAirlines
11-24-2024, 07:54 AM
Just be aware of the tax implications and the bond issues south of 44. Also, Coleman prison is near.

This post is exactly why these questions keep coming up...just poor information and faulty assumptions.

Coleman is not a concern. By the way....what is the village right next to Coleman? So..OP is saying all villages south of 44..Richmond, Deluna, Fenney, Hawkins, etc are all in danger of Coleman? Please...

Taxes? Like Lady Lake doesn't have taxes? OP is implying that there are incorporated areas that have additional taxes beyond county tax. Yes there are, but most people willingly pay the few extra hundred for what they get. In addition to the county sheriff, we also have city law enforcement that does a fantastic job is highly visible. The only people that bring this up are new residents that don't understand and those in "the middle" of TV that don't have an incorporated areas.

The "bond issue" is again another silly thing people point to. All Villages homes have\had bonds. Some paid them off outright, some are so old that they were paid off over the amortization schedule. As the homes were built moving southwards, it makes sense that more homes have bonds because....they are newer! Yes, many of the bonds are higher than in years past....just like homes, cars, eggs...its called inflation.

Every potential homeowner in TV has to decide if the location and newer home is more important than saving thousand or two every year. If money is a #1 concern and where every dollar is significant, then OP is right and you should restrict your search to a narrower part of TV....or outside of the bubble.

nn0wheremann
11-24-2024, 07:54 AM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH
Look in Springdale or Piedmont. Good mix of age groups.

SHIBUMI
11-24-2024, 08:00 AM
Best areas for older and closer to more stores and activities, best area if you can get in is Osceola Hills at Soaring Eagle, one way in and one way out, smaller community, noise levels low,
you may pay a little more, but it is worth it.


Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future smaller area, one road in one road out............ However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

aldeana
11-24-2024, 08:03 AM
There are over 1,000 special interest groups in The Villages. That's where you'll make your lasting friendships. And if you can't find a club for your special interest, you can start one yourself. The Recreation Department makes it really easy to do so.

Gunther
11-24-2024, 08:22 AM
I’m in the southern area, Lake Denham. I am 55 and I will be full time some time next fall. We like that there are more young folks in our area. That being said we have no issue with older folks either. There is definitely more of a party vibe in our area from what I’ve seen. If you are the type to complain about driveway parties or someone having a beer in the pool you may prefer up north. If you are the type to complain to ARC about a bird statue on someone’s lawn then probably best to go up north. Of course complainers come in all ages. But definitely seems more laid back in the south.

Tell me more. We stayed north of 466 for our first visit. We enjoyed being close to Spanish springs and sumter. But yes the crowd was older. Also not an issue. But. We still like to party, have fun, stay up past 9pm.
South looked more wide open and far to reach areas by cart. Give me an idea of where we can find those driveway parties and such.
We are definitely coming again but would like to have more late night fun as well.

MX rider
11-24-2024, 08:39 AM
We live just a bit south of Lake Sumter Landing and love it here. We're 68 and 67 and very active. From what we see here the average age is older than us, but as some have said it's slowly getting younger as people move out or pass away.

The average age down south is younger imo. Seems like driveway parties and such are more common there. Something we would love to be a part of here, but we don't see many around this area.

Switter
11-24-2024, 08:53 AM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

I live in the far north (Woodbury) and I'm 59. I chose it up here because it's quieter. It's feels more like a neighborhood than a resort if that makes any sense. There are lots of mature oak trees that shade the multi modal paths, which makes it really nice for biking and walking, especially in the summer heat. There is also less traffic in the neighborhoods and a ton of shopping nearby (mostly on 441 and 466). Once they build the Costco on 466 I literally have everything I need within about 6 miles. I couldn't really tell you the age demographic but I would say the majority of people that live in my neighborhood are in their late 60s to early 70s, with a handful in their 80s.

I am also not aware of one person in my neighborhood that has their adult children or grandchildren living with them. I think it is very rare, it just sounds more pervasive if you read the village news, lol.

To each his own, but I personally wouldn't like living next-door to people who are regularly partying on their lanai or having driveway parties until late in the evening. In fact, if it ever gets to that point up here I will probably move out of the villages and buy some acreage over in Inverness somewhere.

Topspinmo
11-24-2024, 09:01 AM
But most of the crimes committed by them seem to be north of 466.

Most is not none. Related to older generation residents with need for home care IMO most all are good only take couple bad apple to stick up bushel.

Jim1mack
11-24-2024, 09:04 AM
As several have pointed out that north of 44 there is a lot more retail, grocery, golf courses, three squares with their retail and restaurants, and medical services all golf cart accessible. 466 and 466A has many big box stores. More rec centers and regional rec centers.If you want entertainment and easy access to these things north of 44 is the best move. I’m 71 and moved here 10 years ago. I golf a lot and insert myself into threesomes of varying ages. Younger -60s and older -80s. It’s great that within a 15 minute golf cart ride I can choose between 11 executive courses or three championship courses. Two grocery stores and a drug store are within a 10 minute golf cart ride. My wife often bikes to them when she needs just a few things.

North of 44 is the best choice if you want easy access to these things. From my experience people that live there are older than those south of 44.

margaretmattson
11-24-2024, 09:11 AM
Nearly every Villager welcomes ALL to their neighborhood. Stop worrying about age difference. It is not a factor. Relax, engage, and enjoy!

kendi
11-24-2024, 09:11 AM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

We are in the southern area and have a nice mix of ages. From 50’s to 90’s

kendi
11-24-2024, 09:20 AM
I live in the far north (Woodbury) and I'm 59. I chose it up here because it's quieter. It's feels more like a neighborhood than a resort if that makes any sense. There are lots of mature oak trees that shade the multi modal paths, which makes it really nice for biking and walking, especially in the summer heat. There is also less traffic in the neighborhoods and a ton of shopping nearby (mostly on 441 and 466). Once they build the Costco on 466 I literally have everything I need within about 6 miles. I couldn't really tell you the age demographic but I would say the majority of people that live in my neighborhood are in their late 60s to early 70s, with a handful in their 80s.

I am also not aware of one person in my neighborhood that has their adult children or grandchildren living with them. I think it is very rare, it just sounds more pervasive if you read the village news, lol.

To each his own, but I personally wouldn't like living next-door to people who are regularly partying on their lanai or having driveway parties until late in the evening. In fact, if it ever gets to that point up here I will probably move out of the villages and buy some acreage over in Inverness somewhere.

We’re down South and see no driveway or lanai parties. Have heard of the occasional one here and there which is great. In fact it’s very quiet and peaceful where we are and we have such nice walking and biking paths. It’s a beautiful and relaxing location with a nice mix of ages.

GATORBILL66
11-24-2024, 09:35 AM
Stay north of Rt. 44. More shopping, more doctor's and so on.

OrangeBlossomBaby
11-24-2024, 09:55 AM
This post is exactly why these questions keep coming up...just poor information and faulty assumptions.



The "bond issue" is again another silly thing people point to. All Villages homes have\had bonds. Some paid them off outright, some are so old that they were paid off over the amor

Not true. The "historic side" has never had bonds.

ThomasMur
11-24-2024, 09:56 AM
It really makes no difference. For the most part, people in TV hang with people who have the same interests. Golf, pickleball, clubs.... I have friends ranging from 10 years younger than me to 20 years older than me. You need to come here and stay in various areas and find out for yourself. Don't let people try to tell you what area is best because everyone thinks that their area is better. Also check crime stats for the city/area you will be in. Lady Lake, Leesburg, Fruitland Park, Wildwood... all have areas in or bordering TV. Although some consider it a viallges bashing rag, that other news site also provides some info about various crimes.
Great recommendation!

gail swanson
11-24-2024, 09:59 AM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

I moved here from Amelia 2 yrs ago. I am 82 and my husband is 86. Live in Bradford. Very happy keeps you young having young people around🤗

Switter
11-24-2024, 10:11 AM
We’re down South and see no driveway or lanai parties. Have heard of the occasional one here and there which is great. In fact it’s very quiet and peaceful where we are and we have such nice walking and biking paths. It’s a beautiful and relaxing location with a nice mix of ages.

Good to know. I've heard they've got nicer biking paths down there. I'll have to go down there and check it out.

Rodneysblue
11-24-2024, 11:08 AM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH
We live in Orange Blossom Hills, the average age in our household is 63 years old.

Dustybrogan
11-24-2024, 11:13 AM
I live UP NORTH and in the Finney area. Right now in the north, houses are selling all around us every day. These houses were built over 20 years ago and the 55+ year old people who bought them are either passing or moving back north to be around their children. The demographic up north is definitely trending younger. In my opinion, the center of The Villages would be the oldest average population at the moment.

jimjamuser
11-24-2024, 11:19 AM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH
If I were you, I would stick to the northern areas. I have seen 50 year old residents make discriminatory remarks against 70 year old residents just because of the age difference. There are certainly exceptions, but mostly people prefer to hang out with their similar age group.

Shelbyh
11-24-2024, 11:35 AM
I’m in the southern area, Lake Denham. I am 55 and I will be full time some time next fall. We like that there are more young folks in our area. That being said we have no issue with older folks either. There is definitely more of a party vibe in our area from what I’ve seen. If you are the type to complain about driveway parties or someone having a beer in the pool you may prefer up north. If you are the type to complain to ARC about a bird statue on someone’s lawn then probably best to go up north. Of course complainers come in all ages. But definitely seems more laid back in the south.

I am in the southern section too and totally agree with your assessment. It’s laid back down here and definitely don’t want those issues mentioned in the northern section down here. Especially adult children living with parents.

Bogie Shooter
11-24-2024, 11:47 AM
I am in the southern section too and totally agree with your assessment. It’s laid back down here and definitely don’t want those issues mentioned in the northern section down here. Especially adult children living with parents.

Just wait it’s coming…….."….

BTW, your broad brush is wrong, not all adult children living with parents are criminals!

jimmy o
11-24-2024, 12:11 PM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

The Villages is an age restricted community, 55 and up. Only 10% of owners can be younger than this, although hard to enforce. No one under 18 is allowed to live within The Villages, there is a 30 day limit for visitors under 18 this includes grandkids. The age restriction does not apply to the new area Middleton, as this area is developed for younger families that work within The Villages. In general younger oldies are buying South of SR44, while older oldies live North of SR44. I say in general because there is mixed age everywhere throughout The Villages but percentage wise older North, younger South.

JMintzer
11-24-2024, 01:41 PM
Best areas for older and closer to more stores and activities, best area if you can get in is Osceola Hills at Soaring Eagle, one way in and one way out, smaller community, noise levels low,
you may pay a little more, but it is worth it.

SHHHH! Let's keep that our little secret!

Villagesgal
11-24-2024, 01:42 PM
A poster stated that older people north of 466 have their children and grandchildren living with them and they are often arrested. That's not true. I live north of 466 and no one in my neighborhood has any children or grandchildren living with them, not one.
You will find the neighborhoods a bit quieter north of 466, but still busy. You have more well established landscaping, people around you that have reliable business contacts and who can help you settle in. Unless you are looking to constantly party, you will be more comfortable further north and not in the brand new areas. Also, be sure to buy in an area that is not within a city or your property taxes will be outrageous. Also try to find a house that has Seco and Teco for utilities, much cheaper than other areas. Wherever you find a house, walk up and down the street knocking on doors to meet your potential neighbors to see if you would fit in.
You'll love it here and good for you for wanting to come.

JMintzer
11-24-2024, 01:52 PM
Nearly every Villager welcomes ALL to their neighborhood. Stop worrying about age difference. It is not a factor. Relax, engage, and enjoy!

Yup! at 67, I'm the "baby" of my golf group (12-16 golfers on any given Wednesday...)

But no one is more than 10-12 years older than I am, and there are several neighbors who are 10+ years younger... I moved in 4 years ago this coming Spring....

We have monthly events, driveway parties, ladies lunches, etc etc, etc...

vintageogauge
11-24-2024, 03:07 PM
A poster stated that older people north of 466 have their children and grandchildren living with them and they are often arrested. That's not true. I live north of 466 and no one in my neighborhood has any children or grandchildren living with them, not one.
You will find the neighborhoods a bit quieter north of 466, but still busy. You have more well established landscaping, people around you that have reliable business contacts and who can help you settle in. Unless you are looking to constantly party, you will be more comfortable further north and not in the brand new areas. Also, be sure to buy in an area that is not within a city or your property taxes will be outrageous. Also try to find a house that has Seco and Teco for utilities, much cheaper than other areas. Wherever you find a house, walk up and down the street knocking on doors to meet your potential neighbors to see if you would fit in.
You'll love it here and good for you for wanting to come.
Who does that? You might get shot if you knock on doors, there are complaints on here every so often about strangers walking up and down the streets and/or ringing door bells.

Margefrog
11-24-2024, 05:41 PM
I’m in the southern area, Lake Denham. I am 55 and I will be full time some time next fall. We like that there are more young folks in our area. That being said we have no issue with older folks either. There is definitely more of a party vibe in our area from what I’ve seen. If you are the type to complain about driveway parties or someone having a beer in the pool you may prefer up north. If you are the type to complain to ARC about a bird statue on someone’s lawn then probably best to go up north. Of course complainers come in all ages. But definitely seems more laid back in the south.
IMO, people moving to a 55 and over location do so to avoid loud patio parties and neighbors who have no qualms about their behavior. We take our chances moving to The Villages never knowing the neighbor you could get, but expecting the use of the many activities outside the house, with peace & quiet at home.

Patnphil
11-24-2024, 06:12 PM
Nearing 80 years old!
I would go to the established area between 466 and 466A.
Most services, shops etc. in abundance and area populated with a healthy mix of ages.
As mentioned in earlier posts, the newer areas are still work in progress, with nowhere near the facilities of the established areas.
I agree we live between 466a and 44. Our neighbors are 10years older than when we moved in. If you are looking for an age related village it must be important to you. I would recommend this this area.

asianthree
11-24-2024, 07:02 PM
No one has ever escaped from the Coleman Prison, only a couple from the half way minimum security houses, so safety issue there.

Sarcasm Sheldon. Just point out to a poster who has zero knowledge of living S of 44, that we aren’t in need of false warning about moving anywhere near Coleman

Marathon Man
11-25-2024, 07:43 AM
IMO, people moving to a 55 and over location do so to avoid loud patio parties and neighbors who have no qualms about their behavior. We take our chances moving to The Villages never knowing the neighbor you could get, but expecting the use of the many activities outside the house, with peace & quiet at home.

Speaking for others is not a good idea. I moved here to live life. Neighbors who also enjoy life are to be cherished, not avoided. IMO.

EatthMama
11-25-2024, 08:13 AM
I had a friend who was 82 years old and could no longer drive anything but a golf cart. He lived down south in Linden, and it was very difficult for him. He couldn’t make it to a dr appt or do other shopping because most of it is up north.
Consider how long you plan to be able to drive, and stay north if you think you will need to ise a golf cart to get to dr appts and shopping. Otherwise you will feel quite isolated down south.

RcCalais
11-25-2024, 10:52 AM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

We moved to the Villages 27 years ago. At that time, we were the young ones in the neighborhood, now we are the old ones. I think your concern is legitimate. It is easy to stay active in either environment but easier being the young ones rather than the old ones. All neighborhoods change but I feel starting out in an equal age area is beneficial.

asianthree
11-25-2024, 11:05 AM
I had a friend who was 82 years old and could no longer drive anything but a golf cart. He lived down south in Linden, and it was very difficult for him. He couldn’t make it to a dr appt or do other shopping because most of it is up north.
Consider how long you plan to be able to drive, and stay north if you think you will need to ise a golf cart to get to dr appts and shopping. Otherwise you will feel quite isolated down south.

I can take a cart to any medical facility from south of 44 with zero issues. Then again my parents in their 80s and in-laws in late 90s only see a physician once a year. Travel more to WaWa’s for drinks. Plus They both use Kroger for groceries, why waste time, gas, in a store, when someone else can fondle a can of carrots :1rotfl:

cucaracha
11-25-2024, 11:17 AM
I’m in the southern area, Lake Denham. I am 55 and I will be full time some time next fall. We like that there are more young folks in our area. That being said we have no issue with older folks either. There is definitely more of a party vibe in our area from what I’ve seen. If you are the type to complain about driveway parties or someone having a beer in the pool you may prefer up north. If you are the type to complain to ARC about a bird statue on someone’s lawn then probably best to go up north. Of course complainers come in all ages. But definitely seems more laid back in the south.

I’m 85 and live in an area that is perfect around Hillsborough Trail. If you look into villages between Rd 466A and 44 you’ll find plenty of villages that are quiet and private. Good luck.

Red Rose
11-25-2024, 12:15 PM
Try the Lake Sumter Area. You will find on our street that it’s a mixed bag. 50, 60, 70, 80 and 90 year olds. It’s great. We live in Mallory. Come on Down!!

asianthree
11-25-2024, 01:38 PM
IMO, people moving to a 55 and over location do so to avoid loud patio parties and neighbors who have no qualms about their behavior. We take our chances moving to The Villages never knowing the neighbor you could get, but expecting the use of the many activities outside the house, with peace & quiet at home.

If one want zero neighbor problems and definitely no block parties. TV has definitely the place to live..it’s called assisted living

Justputt
11-25-2024, 02:45 PM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH


I wouldn't be concerned about age. We live about as far south as you can currently get in TV (Dabney) and we have a wide range of ages. Everyone gets along well! I would suggest perhaps building/buying in a new area since everyone there will be new, and that's when everyone is looking to make new friends since everyone is new.

GreggC69
11-25-2024, 07:06 PM
One additional thing to consider, and determine if if matters to you, is what the area might be like in terms of seasonal versus year round and also the degree that the area is air b and b. Love our area and we are hear full time...and on the younger end of the range. Have met A LOT of friends and neighbors of all ages and, as mentioned above, play in golf and pickleball groups with others of all ages. Some people we have met from other villages have been somewhat disappointed by the number of "rentals" in their area versus other full time neighbors. Again - might not be a concern for you one way or the other, but for some, is a significant consideration.

OrangeBlossomBaby
11-25-2024, 09:38 PM
Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

What kind of almost-80-year-old person are you? Are you the granny on a rocking chair knitting booties for the grandchildren kind of 80-year-old? Are you the dancing-in-the-squares-every week and daily yoga kinda 80-year-old? Are you the politically active karaoke singing kinda 80-year-old? Are you the "can barely get from my walker to the couch" kinda 80-year-old? Are you the "if they didn't force me to retire I'd still be working so where can I volunteer" kinda 80-year-old?

And - did you know! There are those kinda 80-year-old categories in EVERY age bracket? In other words - tone down the ageist mentality. Pick the area that looks best for you, within your budget. You can't pick your neighbors. They'll die or move, eventually. So will you. Your friends and acquaintances will be whoever you attract to you based on your personality, interests, and outlook on life.

Kelevision
11-26-2024, 06:23 AM
North of 466 does have a lot of older residents but a lot of those residents have their kids and grandkids living with them. When you read police or crime reports most of them are by these kids and grandkids that live with the old timers up north. Go south old man go south.

I live in the south and there are tons of parents living with adult kids.

RICH1
11-27-2024, 06:59 AM
if you are 80 OP , don't hesitate doing anything ...

vintageogauge
11-27-2024, 04:34 PM
I live in the south and there are tons of parents living with adult kids.

Just the opposite north of 466, tons of adult kids living with their parents.

Bogie Shooter
11-27-2024, 05:16 PM
I live in the south and there are tons of parents living with adult kids.

Just the opposite north of 466, tons of adult kids living with their parents.

And it makes no difference………

graciegirl
11-27-2024, 05:41 PM
What kind of almost-80-year-old person are you? Are you the granny on a rocking chair knitting booties for the grandchildren kind of 80-year-old? Are you the dancing-in-the-squares-every week and daily yoga kinda 80-year-old? Are you the politically active karaoke singing kinda 80-year-old? Are you the "can barely get from my walker to the couch" kinda 80-year-old? Are you the "if they didn't force me to retire I'd still be working so where can I volunteer" kinda 80-year-old?

And - did you know! There are those kinda 80-year-old categories in EVERY age bracket? In other words - tone down the ageist mentality. Pick the area that looks best for you, within your budget. You can't pick your neighbors. They'll die or move, eventually. So will you. Your friends and acquaintances will be whoever you attract to you based on your personality, interests, and outlook on life.

Well said!!

graciegirl
11-27-2024, 05:42 PM
And it makes no difference………

Oh so right.

Emkay56
11-28-2024, 09:07 AM
Personally, I would look in the area between 466A and 44 as there seems to be a good mix of young and old. Plus, the area is well developed and everything you need is close by….shopping, restaurants, entertainment, activities. It is going to take several years for the southern area to have the stores, entertainment, activities that we have up here. Just my opinion…..plus I’ve heard the bonds on homes down there are considerably higher than up here depending on the home you buy. There are plenty of beautiful existing homes for sale north of 44.


Hello. I am considering buying in The Villages in the near future. However I have researched the ages of people in the Southern area (including near the Sawgrass grove and Eastport). I am nearing 80 years old and I am concerned I may not fit in and I should stick to the older northern areas where I know the people are closer to my age group. So that is a concern. Can you comment about the age groups in each area? Thank you. MarvinH

marvinh11791
11-29-2024, 07:07 PM
Marvin - I am curious re your research. Was it just anecdotal comments by your realtor? I'd be interested for you to share those results. What is the average age in the north? Does it drop consistently as you go south? What is the average age in the south?

Hi Greg. My inquiries of my realtor were just in conversation. No hard and fast rules. Thanks. Marvin

marvinh11791
11-29-2024, 07:10 PM
Did none of the answers in your two previous threads help you? You seem overly concerned with age. This is a 55+ ACTIVE senior community of over 150,000 people and around 70 square miles of real estate. Consider the average 80-year-old HERE in The Villages is still playing golf, pickleball, shooting arrows at the archery range, dancing, socializing, and yes - some of them even still have sex.

And there are some 50-somethings who don't do much of any of the above, but prefer shuffleboard, board games, watching TV, and book clubs.

Your neighborhood will be a mixed bag, either moving in today, or within the next 4 years. You've been talking about maybe moving here for several years already, and had your lifestyle visit several years ago.

If you're still physically active and interested in LIVING a dream instead of just dreaming about it, you probably should move down now while you can.

Please check your previous threads for lots of responses regarding age and living in The Villages (including another one with the same question you have in this thread):

January 2023: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/ages-residents-north-vs-southern-area-338461/

November 2021: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/average-age-villager-326023/

Hi OrangBlossomBaby - Thanks for reminding me about my old threads and doing that research for me! :angel: I will re-read those old theads. Thank you. Marvin

patfla06
11-29-2024, 11:58 PM
Moving or living in a 55+ community I don’t understand the concern about age.
I live south of 466A with our neighborhood being built in 2012-2013.
The ages run between 60-90. Who cares how old someone is?

RonGee
11-30-2024, 09:32 AM
IMO,
At our age (70 to 80) I don’t see any advantage to buying new or pre owned South of 466A.
The North is much more mature and feels to me more of a small town environment.
Most pre owned homes for sale seem to be updated before they sell. The North also has either paid off bonds or very little left. The developers are modernizing areas in the older villages.
IMO

JMintzer
11-30-2024, 04:07 PM
Personally, I would look in the area between 466A and 44 as there seems to be a good mix of young and old. Plus, the area is well developed and everything you need is close by….shopping, restaurants, entertainment, activities. It is going to take several years for the southern area to have the stores, entertainment, activities that we have up here. Just my opinion…..plus I’ve heard the bonds on homes down there are considerably higher than up here depending on the home you buy. There are plenty of beautiful existing homes for sale north of 44.

That's what we did...

While there are some wonderful looking neighborhoods being planned farther south, we just didn't feel like living surrounded by construction for the foreseeable future...

Plus, there were only a few new neighborhoods under construction when were ready to buy...