Palmer Legends Country Club sold?

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Is this true?

Are the new owners experienced and good management?

Apologies if this was covered elsewhere .

[ROCKETMAN]

New owner took over Tuesday. Had meeting with employees and said wages the same and pricing the same for now.

[BrianL99]

Is this true?

Are the new owners experienced and good management?

Apologies if this was covered elsewhere .

If it was sold, I can't seem to find anything much about it, other than the supposed "owner" spent some time in jail a couple of years ago.

I believe the newspaper article was referring to the restaurant "owner", which appears to belong to LEGENDS PARTNERSHIP, LLC, with Chad Strausbaugh listed as the Manager of the LLC. (Chad plays out of Golden Ocala and is an interesting guy, if you care to do some Google searching.)

I think the course itself belongs to the Villages Holding Co. I've often thought that club would be a great course to turn into a Private Country Club, but told by someone who should know, the Holding Company would never sell it.

[BrianL99]

New owner took over Tuesday. Had meeting with employees and said wages the same and pricing the same for now.

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[Altavia]

Posted on Facebook
...

**A Heartfelt Thank You After 20 Amazing Years**

After two incredible decades of serving our community, we've made the difficult decision to sell Palmer Legends Country Club. It has been an absolute honor to welcome so many of you through our doors, celebrate countless memories, and be part of this vibrant community.

To our loyal guests: Your support has meant the world to us. Whether you’ve been with us from the start or just joined us recently, your patronage has been the heart of everything we do. We are deeply grateful for each meal shared and every smile exchanged.

To our incredible staff: Thank you for your dedication, passion, and hard work. You’ve not only been colleagues, but also family. We couldn’t have made it this far without you.

As we close this chapter, we’re filled with gratitude and excitement for what lies ahead for our family. We will forever treasure the memories we’ve made and the people we’ve met along the way. Thank you for being part of this amazing journey!

Sincerely,
The Strausbaugh Family

[BrianL99]

Posted on Facebook
...

**A Heartfelt Thank You After 20 Amazing Years**

After two incredible decades of serving our community, we've made the difficult decision to sell Palmer Legends Country Club. It has been an absolute honor to welcome so many of you through our doors, celebrate countless memories, and be part of this vibrant community.

...

As we close this chapter, we’re filled with gratitude and excitement for what lies ahead for our family. We will forever treasure the memories we’ve made and the people we’ve met along the way. Thank you for being part of this amazing journey!

Sincerely,
The Strausbaugh Family


More bad news.

Apparently the Suleiman operation has bought it. There goes the neighborhood.

[tophcfa]

Posted on Facebook
...

**A Heartfelt Thank You After 20 Amazing Years**

After two incredible decades of serving our community, we've made the difficult decision to sell Palmer Legends Country Club. It has been an absolute honor to welcome so many of you through our doors, celebrate countless memories, and be part of this vibrant community.

To our loyal guests: Your support has meant the world to us. Whether you’ve been with us from the start or just joined us recently, your patronage has been the heart of everything we do. We are deeply grateful for each meal shared and every smile exchanged.

To our incredible staff: Thank you for your dedication, passion, and hard work. You’ve not only been colleagues, but also family. We couldn’t have made it this far without you.

As we close this chapter, we’re filled with gratitude and excitement for what lies ahead for our family. We will forever treasure the memories we’ve made and the people we’ve met along the way. Thank you for being part of this amazing journey!

Sincerely,
The Strausbaugh Family

Big sigh of relief, it’s the restaurant that was sold, not the golf : ) I’m sure that matters to some, but no big deal here. If it was the golf course, another story all together. That would represent a seismic shift in the entire Championship golf model for the entire Villages.

[Kelevision]

More bad news.

Apparently the Suleiman operation has bought it. There goes the neighborhood.

They have by far the best restaurants here in TV. Not sure where you eat but Prima, Anglers and Lopez are all good so this is actually good news if true.

[ROCKETMAN]

More bad news.

Apparently the Suleiman operation has bought it. There goes the neighborhood.

It’s definitely NOT the Suelmans.

[BrianL99]

More bad news.

Apparently the Suleiman operation has bought it. There goes the neighborhood.

It’s definitely NOT the Suelmans.

That's what I read, but I hope you're right. Palmer has always done a good job with the restaurant in my opinion. The Suleiman's run schlock houses. Worse than FMK.

Now even Palmer's will serving the fake turkey for Thanksgiving.

[graciegirl]

Is this true?

Are the new owners experienced and good management?

Apologies if this was covered elsewhere .

The building et al at Arnold Palmer are still OWNED by the developer. People can contract to run restaurants here, usually for five years. Someone else is now running it. We will see how they do.

[dewilson58]

"Palmer Legends Country Club sold?
Is this true?"

No.

Was Mallory sold??.............No.

Was Cane Garden sold???.........No.


:ho:

[walterray1]

It’s definitely NOT the Suelmans.

It definitely is.

[will1546]

Congratulations to the new owners, the Suleiman family. I am sure that they will do a great job.

[villagetinker]

I just received an email and Palmer Legends Joins Our Family from the Sulieman family has purchased this restaurant with a grand opening in late January.

[BrianL99]

It really is unfortunate, that a community of almost 200,000 people, can't manage to attract a single, decent, competent Restaurant operator, who can produce quality food and service.

[Bill14564]

It really is unfortunate, that a community of almost 200,000 people, can't manage to attract a single, decent, competent Restaurant operator, who can produce quality food and service.

It isn't the quantity of the customer base, it's the quality.

- For every one complement a restaurant might get there will be five others waiting to disparage it (see recent posts on Chophouse and Thanksgiving dinner)

- Nothing will ever be as good as it was in the place where the customers came from (see any posts on pizza or nearly any other ethnic food)

- The high rent in the bubble combined with the frugality of the residents makes the bubble inhospitable to high-end establishments

A restaurant needs customers in order to survive. If they can't attract customers because of unending criticism of quality, authenticity, or price then they won't survive here.

[JoMar]

It really is unfortunate, that a community of almost 200,000 people, can't manage to attract a single, decent, competent Restaurant operator, who can produce quality food and service.

Subjective.

[Two Bills]

The majority of villagers will not support high-end restaurants, that is why there aren't any, and you have to travel outside the bubble for such establishments.
Pile it high, sell it cheap is the majority mantra of villagers.
There are some high-priced restaurants to choose from, but they are not selling high-end food.
JMO.

[gatorbill1]

They already ruined Mallory in short time!!!!

[Altavia]

Posted on Facebook
...

**A Heartfelt Thank You After 20 Amazing Years**

After two incredible decades of serving our community, we've made the difficult decision to sell Palmer Legends Country Club. It has been an absolute honor to welcome so many of you through our doors, celebrate countless memories, and be part of this vibrant community.

To our loyal guests: Your support has meant the world to us. Whether you’ve been with us from the start or just joined us recently, your patronage has been the heart of everything we do. We are deeply grateful for each meal shared and every smile exchanged.

To our incredible staff: Thank you for your dedication, passion, and hard work. You’ve not only been colleagues, but also family. We couldn’t have made it this far without you.

As we close this chapter, we’re filled with gratitude and excitement for what lies ahead for our family. We will forever treasure the memories we’ve made and the people we’ve met along the way. Thank you for being part of this amazing journey!

Sincerely,
The Strausbaugh Family

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[Kelevision]

It isn't the quantity of the customer base, it's the quality.

- For every one complement a restaurant might get there will be five others waiting to disparage it (see recent posts on Chophouse and Thanksgiving dinner)

- Nothing will ever be as good as it was in the place where the customers came from (see any posts on pizza or nearly any other ethnic food)

- The high rent in the bubble combined with the frugality of the residents makes the bubble inhospitable to high-end establishments

A restaurant needs customers in order to survive. If they can't attract customers because of unending criticism of quality, authenticity, or price then they won't survive here.

This is spot on. Restaurants in general don’t make money so nobody is coming in here to lose money.

[kkingston57]

Is this true?

Are the new owners experienced and good management?

Apologies if this was covered elsewhere .

Article(or wharever) should have said dining room. Golf course was not sold.

[eweissenbach]

IMHO the Suliemans are the best restaurateurs in The Villages. Lopez, Havana, and Prima are among the best venues in TV.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

It isn't the quantity of the customer base, it's the quality.

- For every one complement a restaurant might get there will be five others waiting to disparage it (see recent posts on Chophouse and Thanksgiving dinner)

- Nothing will ever be as good as it was in the place where the customers came from (see any posts on pizza or nearly any other ethnic food)

- The high rent in the bubble combined with the frugality of the residents makes the bubble inhospitable to high-end establishments

A restaurant needs customers in order to survive. If they can't attract customers because of unending criticism of quality, authenticity, or price then they won't survive here.

Very true, you live in a fricken* rural farmland FL. . . on a fixed salary for many. . .

Although the customer base pays the bills, the staff attracts the customers, and the staff in rural FL with better wages paid in Orlando with bigger tips and prices, and top class staff isn't here. Class C cooks and wait staff work here in rural FL. . . there's a lot more herding of Cats than over in Orlando, one hour away, with a better night life and a singles lifestyle available, which doesn't exist here, and for the most part, wasn't really good location to raise a family, until recently. .

So if you want good restaurants, you need to pay up when you go out, recognize that you are in rural retirement frickin* Florida, not in the city of working and business wagers. . . otherwise, they won't exist when you want them. . or not, your choice. . . but be realistic about where you live, and the competition for staff.. .

[dewilson58]

Article(or wharever) should have said dining room. Golf course was not sold.

Not even the dining room............The Villages still own the dining room.

[tophcfa]

Very true, you live in a fricken* rural farmland FL. . . on a fixed salary for many. . .

Although the customer base pays the bills, the staff attracts the customers, and the staff in rural FL with better wages paid in Orlando with bigger tips and prices, and top class staff isn't here. Class C cooks and wait staff work here in rural FL. . . there's a lot more herding of Cats than over in Orlando, one hour away, with a better night life and a singles lifestyle available, which doesn't exist here, and for the most part, wasn't really good location to raise a family, until recently. .

So if you want good restaurants, you need to pay up when you go out, recognize that you are in rural retirement frickin* Florida, not in the city of working and business wagers. . . otherwise, they won't exist when you want them. . or not, your choice. . . but be realistic about where you live, and the competition for staff.. .

I guess it’s all relative. When we leave our rural northern home and head to the Villages, we feel like we are entering an urban area. Instead of an hour round trip drive in my truck to get takeout from the closest restaurant, it’s about a y15 minute round trip golf cart ride to multiple different restaurants. The Villages is as urban as we want to get. I’ll gladly give up the option of 5 star restaurants to not have to deal with the hustle and bustle of a City like Orlando.

[tophcfa]

IMHO the Suliemans are the best restaurateurs in The Villages. Lopez, Havana, and Prima are among the best venues in TV.

We have eaten a few times over the years at both Lopez and Palmer and very much preferred the food at Lopez. I see this as an upgrade for Palmer.

[ROCKETMAN]

Went there tonight for happy hour. Beer still $3.00, wine still $3.13, but mixed drinks went from $3.25 to $4.26. Still 2-5

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It isn't the quantity of the customer base, it's the quality.

- For every one complement a restaurant might get there will be five others waiting to disparage it (see recent posts on Chophouse and Thanksgiving dinner)

- Nothing will ever be as good as it was in the place where the customers came from (see any posts on pizza or nearly any other ethnic food)

- The high rent in the bubble combined with the frugality of the residents makes the bubble inhospitable to high-end establishments

A restaurant needs customers in order to survive. If they can't attract customers because of unending criticism of quality, authenticity, or price then they won't survive here.

I don't want another high-end restaurant. I can't afford to go to them. I just want a decent take-out pizzeria that I can get to by car within 10 minutes of ordering. And maybe a decent Italian bakery. Maybe a decent kosher deli. Maybe ANY middle-eastern (NOT GREEK) falafel joint.

None of that stuff is expensive, you should be able to get a slice of secilian pizza and a coke for under $6. A stuffed falafel in a syrian pita (NOT GREEK) with tahini shouldn't be more than $5. A half dozen snowballs (italian wedding cookies) should be under $4. A hot potato knish and a half-sour pickle shouldn't be more than $6.

It doesn't even have to be IN the Villages. It just has to be close enough that it doesn't get cold/thaw out on the way home.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Very true, you live in a fricken* rural farmland FL. . . on a fixed salary for many. . .

Although the customer base pays the bills, the staff attracts the customers, and the staff in rural FL with better wages paid in Orlando with bigger tips and prices, and top class staff isn't here. Class C cooks and wait staff work here in rural FL. . . there's a lot more herding of Cats than over in Orlando, one hour away, with a better night life and a singles lifestyle available, which doesn't exist here, and for the most part, wasn't really good location to raise a family, until recently. .

So if you want good restaurants, you need to pay up when you go out, recognize that you are in rural retirement frickin* Florida, not in the city of working and business wagers. . . otherwise, they won't exist when you want them. . or not, your choice. . . but be realistic about where you live, and the competition for staff.. .

In rural areas up north there are still options. In the farmland area of Middlefield, CT, there's an amazing Indian restaurant that has an all-you-can-eat buffet and affordable lunch special menu. There's also Lyman Orchards, which has some of the best apple pies in the country, made from the apples they grow. Up in the boondocks somewhere between Albuquerque and Santa Fe near some hot springs, there are quite a few little sandwich shops that feature home-made soups and simple sandwiches with their own bread.

None of this stuff is gourmet, none of it involves an uncorking fee, none of the menus have the word "pairing" on them. None of them are pretentious, and none of them are expensive.

And it's ALL in rural areas. People living in the boondocks like socializing and going to dinner too, and most of them are on a budget. So restaurants, diners and sandwich shops offer simple, hearty, filling, tasty food at affordable prices.

There's no reason we can't have that here. We have a kick-ass taqueria right on 301, you can get 2 carne asada tacos and a mandarin Jarritos for under $8 including tip.

[Taltarzac725]

Is this true?

Are the new owners experienced and good management?

Apologies if this was covered elsewhere .

Sorry to see them go. All the meals we have had over the past nineteen years were very good. We moved in the Summer of 2005 to the Villages.

[Ecuadog]

... There's also Lyman Orchards, which has some of the best apple pies in the country, made from the apples they grow. ...

Ahhh, fond memories. For decades, went there every year in the autumn for apples and cider.

[Eg_cruz]

Is this true?

Are the new owners experienced and good management?

Apologies if this was covered elsewhere .
New owners are awesome
Same owner of The Legacy

[ROCKETMAN]

It definitely is.

I was wrong of course, it was the Suelmans.

[Sandy and Ed]

They have by far the best restaurants here in TV. Not sure where you eat but Prima, Anglers and Lopez are all good so this is actually good news if true.
I agree. Don’t understand where the poster is coming from with that comment. Perhaps elucidation is needed???

[Sandy and Ed]

I don't want another high-end restaurant. I can't afford to go to them. I just want a decent take-out pizzeria that I can get to by car within 10 minutes of ordering. And maybe a decent Italian bakery. Maybe a decent kosher deli. Maybe ANY middle-eastern (NOT GREEK) falafel joint.

None of that stuff is expensive, you should be able to get a slice of secilian pizza and a coke for under $6. A stuffed falafel in a syrian pita (NOT GREEK) with tahini shouldn't be more than $5. A half dozen snowballs (italian wedding cookies) should be under $4. A hot potato knish and a half-sour pickle shouldn't be more than $6.

It doesn't even have to be IN the Villages. It just has to be close enough that it doesn't get cold/thaw out on the way home.
Now you are talking MY language. Middle Eastern food!! Brooklyn pizza!! Knish!! Bialys! Good but inexpensive ethnic food.

[crash]

That's what I read, but I hope you're right. Palmer has always done a good job with the restaurant in my opinion. The Suleiman's run schlock houses. Worse than FMK.

Now even Palmer's will serving the fake turkey for Thanksgiving.

It is the Suleimans who also have Nancy Lopez and did a nice job when they took that over. They are remodeling and Palmers definitely needs it.

[Radamo]

IMHO the Suliemans are the best restaurateurs in The Villages. Lopez, Havana, and Prima are among the best venues in TV.

Agreed...

[BrianL99]

It is the Suleimans who also have Nancy Lopez and did a nice job when they took that over. They are remodeling and Palmers definitely needs it.

Like they're remodeling Mallory, that looks like your grandmother built and decorated it?

[BrianL99]

Now you are talking MY language. Middle Eastern food!! Brooklyn pizza!! Knish!! Bialys! Good but inexpensive ethnic food.

Oh yeah, that's definitely mainstream and just what's needed ... along with a few more McDonald's & Perkins. :yuck:

[Rzepecki]

They already ruined Mallory in short time!!!!

Different part of the family.

[airstreamingypsy]

It’s definitely NOT the Suelmans.

It definitely is the Suleimans.

[Windguy]

Don’t forget that we do not have a steady population here in TV. It’s hard for a good restaurant to survive when many of their customers disappear for much of the year.

[jimkerr]

It’s definitely NOT the Suelmans.

That’s incorrect. The Sueans did purchase it. They will be renovating and making that tired interior look much nicer.

I’m looking forward to the changes. Hopefully the food will be as good as in their other restaurants. Palmers food was mediocre and not worth the price.

[H-ned]

IMHO the Suliemans are the best restaurateurs in The Villages. Lopez, Havana, and Prima are among the best venues in TV.

Especially Havana CC restaurant! Attentive service, delicious food, reasonable pricing. Perhaps not a true high-end white-glove dining experience, but definitely an enjoyable and pleasing TV restaurant currently.

[Annie66]

Like they're remodeling Mallory, that looks like your grandmother built and decorated it?

You understand that there are 2 Suleiman restaurant groups. One group, composed of Anglers, Havana, Prima, Legacy and now Palmer, is owned by David Suleiman. The second group, composed of Red Sauce, Mallory and Glenview, is owned by Jack Suleiman.

[tophcfa]

There's also Lyman Orchards, which has some of the best apple pies in the country, made from the apples they grow.

Ahhh, fond memories. For decades, went there every year in the autumn for apples and cider.

Don’t forget about the two beautiful Championship golf courses at Lyman Orchards (Gary Player and Robert Trent Jones). We used to make the 1 1/2 hour drive south to Lyman frequently during the winter to golf because it frequently wasn’t covered with snow like the courses further north.

[BrianL99]

You understand that there are 2 Suleiman restaurant groups. One group, composed of Anglers, Havana, Prima, Legacy and now Palmer, is owned by David Suleiman. The second group, composed of Red Sauce, Mallory and Glenview, is owned by Jack Suleiman.

David & Jack are apparently brothers and there are bunch of cousins involved ... children of the brothers.

Saying they are "2 restaurant groups" looks like a distinction without a difference.

[BobnBev]

In rural areas up north there are still options. In the farmland area of Middlefield, CT, there's an amazing Indian restaurant that has an all-you-can-eat buffet and affordable lunch special menu. There's also Lyman Orchards, which has some of the best apple pies in the country, made from the apples they grow. Up in the boondocks somewhere between Albuquerque and Santa Fe near some hot springs, there are quite a few little sandwich shops that feature home-made soups and simple sandwiches with their own bread.

None of this stuff is gourmet, none of it involves an uncorking fee, none of the menus have the word "pairing" on them. None of them are pretentious, and none of them are expensive.

And it's ALL in rural areas. People living in the boondocks like socializing and going to dinner too, and most of them are on a budget. So restaurants, diners and sandwich shops offer simple, hearty, filling, tasty food at affordable prices.

There's no reason we can't have that here. We have a kick-ass taqueria right on 301, you can get 2 carne asada tacos and a mandarin Jarritos for under $8 including tip.

I miss those apple pies from Lyman Orchids----BEST EVER.

[RUCdaze]

I guess I'm in the minority, but in my humble opinion, the Palmer restaurant has been over priced and culinary inferior. I'm so glad it has been sold; it can't get any worse.

[HORNET]

Where have you been !

[Brynnie]

Is this true?

Are the new owners experienced and good management?

Apologies if this was covered elsewhere .

The Suleiman family, owners of Lopez Legacy, Prima Steakhouse, and Havana CC have taken over the restaurant. They will open sometime at the end of January with a completely remodeled restaurant and completely new menu.

[HORNET]

The Morse Family owns the building, restaurateurs only have a contract to run the food side!

[BrianL99]

The Morse Family owns the building, restaurateurs only have a contract to run the food side!


I think that is incorrect.

The CC Restaurant businesses are in almost every case, owned by the restauranteur, they're not "contractors".

They lease the facility they operate the business in, like most every other restaurant in the USA.

[USN-Retired]

Suleiman's far better than the ‘other’ organization!

[Bill14564]

Wrong.

The Restaurant businesses are in almost every case, owned by the restauranteur, they're not "contractors".

They lease the facility they operate the business in, like most every other restaurant in the USA.

A distinction without a difference.

One party owns the building and the other owns the food service operation with a legal agreement that money flows from the service owner to the building owner.

[Tobys Dad]

Agree100%, sadly haters gonna hate.

Prima, Havana, Lopez are all excellent.
As always some people need to go back home where everything was better. Lol

[BrianL99]

Suleiman's far better than the ‘other’ organization!

It's a very low bar.

[ShaSha]

Really pleased that FMK did not buy the it. Most of FMK restaurants are never my first choice! Dinner at Chop House was okay…
Seldom disappointed by Suleiman. Love Legacy, Prima and Havana.

[Teed_Off]

I guess I'm in the minority, but in my humble opinion, the Palmer restaurant has been over priced and culinary inferior. I'm so glad it has been sold; it can't get any worse.

I agree. After several disappointing meals and reaching out to their management to tell them that our experiences was underwhelming due to their food, service and pricing, my wife and I have boycotted the restaurant for 4+years. After telling friends our stories they too would tell us of similar meal situations and they too wouldn’t go back.

[BrianL99]

I agree. After several disappointing meals and reaching out to their management to tell them that our experiences was underwhelming due to their food, service and pricing, my wife and I have boycotted the restaurant for 4+years. After telling friends our stories they too would tell us of similar meal situations and they too wouldn’t go back.

I only ate there, twice. Both on Thanksgiving Days and both times it was spectacular.

That said, Palmer Legends has by far, the lowest Yelp review ratings, of any country club restaurant in TV.

[Marmaduke]

It really is unfortunate, that a community of almost 200,000 people, can't manage to attract a single, decent, competent Restaurant operator, who can produce quality food and service.
When I see the constant complaints hyoer-critiques from relatively new residents, I wonder why they didn't check it out before they moved to a place where everything is so easy to criticize.

If everything was so perfect in their former city, why on earth did they move to TV?

[Papa_lecki]

I guess I'm in the minority, but in my humble opinion, the Palmer restaurant has been over priced and culinary inferior. I'm so glad it has been sold; it can't get any worse.

We had some good meals there around 2020-2021.
Our more recent visits havent been so good.

[Bogie Shooter]

:When I see the constant complaints hyoer-critiques from relatively new residents, I wonder why they didn't check it out before they moved to a place where everything is so easy to criticize.

If everything was so perfect in their former city, why on earth did they move to TV?

👍:BigApplause:

[BrianL99]

When I see the constant complaints hyoer-critiques from relatively new residents,

Perhaps the relatively new residents, aren't as accepting of mediocrity as the folks who showed up, way back in 2019.



If everything was so perfect in their former city, why on earth did they move to TV?

Some folks didn't move here, but merely visit for the period when TV's perfect weather is below 97 degrees.

[asianthree]

It really is unfortunate, that a community of almost 200,000 people, can't manage to attract a single, decent, competent Restaurant operator, who can produce quality food and service.

When I see the constant complaints hyoer-critiques from relatively new residents, I wonder why they didn't check it out before they moved to a place where everything is so easy to criticize.

If everything was so perfect in their former city, why on earth did they move to TV?

We’ll have a few more years in TV. So in 2007, the land of restaurants in TV was SS which was completely rented, and one developer owned LSL place, with very little open. Was anything above average no. Are there better restaurants since 2007 yes.

Sometimes newer posters seem to find fault with Many things in TV, inferior restaurants, golf management, those who shouldn’t play golf, possibility of invasion of privacy in one’s home, hobbies of others that are a waste of time.

Sometimes and most often posters will find more good things than bad in restaurants, amenities and just happy they made decisions to live in TV. Knowingly that outside of the bubble better can be found.

Could there be better amenities in TV maybe. Better restaurants, probably not. There have been more than a few restaurants that have shown interest in bringing their establishments, yet choose not to, sometimes at the last hour.

Our immediate family with 5 high end restaurants, has scouted TV, to bring a restaurant, for multiple years. However their findings are just not viable for a profitable establishment.
Restaurants in TV accommodate retirees that quantity of food is above quality.

Most TV restaurants have difficulty, during off season, running specials and bogo to get people in the door. Until that changes, great restaurants will only exist outside of TV.

[pooderpask]

It’s definitely NOT the Suelmans.

It is the Suelmans. Verified by Prima manager.

[ROCKETMAN]

I was always of the opinion the developer owns the building, you just lease the space. Once you take over the person who leases is responsible of any upgrades they want to make, carpeting, furniture etc. The developer is responsible for outside work, parking lots, landscaping.

[BrianL99]

I was always of the opinion the developer owns the building, you just lease the space. Once you take over the person who leases is responsible of any upgrades they want to make, carpeting, furniture etc. The developer is responsible for outside work, parking lots, landscaping.

That all depends on the terms of the lease and they're all different.

I'm in the process of leasing 5000 sq. ft. to a Doctor. We're providing $600,000 worth of interior improvements.

In regards to Palmer CC, the first interior improvement they should make in my opinion, is to work on the acoustics ... it's one of the noisiest restaurants I've ever been in. If you run a restaurant, with primarily an elderly clientele (many of whom speak loudly), you need to pay special attention to the noise level ... Palmer's is awful.

[HORNET]

It was in the news paper

[graciegirl]

It was in the news paper

I keep a tellin' y'all;

The building is owned by the developer who rents it out to a restaurant company for a five year contract. Sometimes, like at Nancy Lopez, they redecorate and take a nice country club feeling to something that I don't like at all.

If there is one thing for danged sure, it is this, all restaurants, here, there and everywhere are suffering and floundering. People do not want to pay the high prices for poor service and not wonderful food. I don't know what happened but it seems that people who know how to cook, no longer want to work at restaurants, but have found a higher paying job somewhere else. I must say that the servers are generally tried and true and doing their best here in The Villages, at least in the few places we still eat out.

I think some of these posts are by people who are not aware of the mess the restaurant business is in nationally right now and or don't live here and are jealous. My view is that when the developers literally ran the food part of the restaurants, it was MUCH BETTER than it is now.

I frequently think that being locked down during the pandemic and having high prices for restaurant food has either taught people to buy some decent frozen entrees and eat at home or maybe even learn to cook. I am blessed to know how to cook and we like my cooking and it is cheaper and better than going out most of the time.

[Marathon Man]

When I see the constant complaints hyoer-critiques from relatively new residents, I wonder why they didn't check it out before they moved to a place where everything is so easy to criticize.

If everything was so perfect in their former city, why on earth did they move to TV?

Well said.

[SoCalGal]

Is this true? Are the new owners experienced and good management?

Yes, Palmer Legends Country Club in The Villages, FL has been sold to new owners. The Suleiman family has taken over the ownership from the Strausbaugh family, who ran it for nearly two decades. The Suleimans are expanding their culinary presence in the area as they also operate several other country clubs and restaurants in The Villages.

https://www.**************.com/2024/12/21/palmer-legends-country-club-under-new-ownership/

[Kelevision]

I keep a tellin' y'all;

The building is owned by the developer who rents it out to a restaurant company for a five year contract. Sometimes, like at Nancy Lopez, they redecorate and take a nice country club feeling to something that I don't like at all.

If there is one thing for danged sure, it is this, all restaurants, here, there and everywhere are suffering and floundering. People do not want to pay the high prices for poor service and not wonderful food. I don't know what happened but it seems that people who know how to cook, no longer want to work at restaurants, but have found a higher paying job somewhere else. I must say that the servers are generally tried and true and doing their best here in The Villages, at least in the few places we still eat out.

I think some of these posts are by people who are not aware of the mess the restaurant business is in nationally right now and or don't live here and are jealous. My view is that when the developers literally ran the food part of the restaurants, it was MUCH BETTER than it is now.

I frequently think that being locked down during the pandemic and having high prices for restaurant food has either taught people to buy some decent frozen entrees and eat at home or maybe even learn to cook. I am blessed to know how to cook and we like my cooking and it is cheaper and better than going out most of the time.

The Villages runs McGrady’s Pub ( among others) and it’s one of my least favorite places. They used to run Fenney Grill then sold it and it was and still is, one of my favorite places here.

[BrianL99]

I keep a tellin' y'all;

If there is one thing for danged sure, it is this, all restaurants, here, there and everywhere are suffering and floundering.

I think some of these posts are by people who are not aware of the mess the restaurant business is in nationally right now and or don't live here and are jealous.

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with restaurant trends and haven't bothered to do any research before jumping to conclusions that aren't based on facts?

The restaurant business across the USA had a very good year, that surpassed expectations in most ever sector. 2025 is projected to be the biggest year ever in the restaurant business.

Unfortunately, most of The Villages restaurants are operating like it's 1985 and not 2024 and seem oblivious to the trends in the industry. Like most everything in The Villages, we're operating in a time warp ... technology, music, food, etc. The Villages will never function at the "cutting edge", which probably suits the population just fine.

[dewilson58]

Yes, Palmer Legends Country Club in The Villages, FL has been sold to new owners. The Suleiman family has taken over the ownership from the Strausbaugh family, who ran it for nearly two decades. The Suleimans are expanding their culinary presence in the area as they also operate several other country clubs and restaurants in The Villages.

https://www.**************.com/2024/12/21/palmer-legends-country-club-under-new-ownership/

NO!!!!!
Palmer has not been sold.
The right to cook and serve food has changed hands.
The course, the land and facilities are owned by TV.

[Bay Kid]

NO!!!!!
Palmer has not been sold.
The right to cook and serve food has changed hands.
The course, the land and facilities are owned by TV.

For sure. I bet if we didn't read about this we would not notice any difference.

[chuckpedrey]

I am very, very happy to learn that the Sulieman family is the new owner of Palmer Legend’s restaurant. I am impressed by their management style and the high quality of the meals they serve.

My prayers and good wishes for your continued success in The Villages

[tophcfa]

Unfortunately, most of The Villages restaurants are operating like it's 1985 and not 2024 and seem oblivious to the trends in the industry. Like most everything in The Villages, we're operating in a time warp ... technology, music, food, etc. The Villages will never function at the "cutting edge", which probably suits the population just fine.

Works just fine here : )

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Like most everything in The Villages, we're operating in a time warp ... technology, music, food, etc. The Villages will never function at the "cutting edge", which probably suits the population just fine.

Operated under the theory of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" Many companies for which I worked operated like this, its an operational strategy, devoid of strategic planning, which happens at corporate.

As far as food goes, the non standard specialty locations must be small to remain constantly filled, and there are a few successful ones. But the seasonality of retail especially here is harder to manage than the rest of Florida, with a higher percentage of snow birds than most non rural communities.

Its just not an easy place to manage successfully, doesn't mean impossible, means above average industry skills for not an exceptional return