Travel to Ireland with canine

[Mmgeaney]

Anyone with experience taking their dog, in cabin, on flight to Ireland? All vet paperwork had been completed. Next is getting an airline that allows pet to travel with you. I would like to talk to someone who has done this. Thank you.

[Papa_lecki]

Is this a service dog? If so

To be recognized as a service dog, a dog must be fully trained and registered with an organization such as:
Irish Guide Dogs For The Blind
Dogs For The Disabled (Cork)
Autism Assistance Dogs Ireland
My Canine Companion
Canine Partners (UK)
Dog A.I.D. (UK)
Guide Dogs UK
Hearing Dogs For Deaf People (UK)
Medical Detection Dogs (UK)
Support Dogs (UK)

[CarlR33]

Wow, you people are brutal tonight. You have seen these people in TV that have pets they consider their children.

[thelegges]

Our oldest travels to different parts of US and Europe. 2 dogs, 2 cats traveled from Fairbanks to UK with all four in cargo hold. Then quarantine, at arrival. After 7 years 2 cats one dog flew from UK to St Paul, cargo hold. Company and Government takes care of all their moving expenses no idea cost.
Newest dog is a seizure dog, and can travel in cabin, but will probably cargo hold with other dog if still around to keep them together.

[villagetinker]

IMHO, you probably need to check with the country you are going to visit for quarantine requirements as well as any on your return trip, and also what happens if you dog is quarantined.

[tophcfa]

It’s very difficult. My brother is blind and has a highly trained and totally legitimate guide dog. His guide dog is literally his eyes and he is very dependent on her. Legally, he can’t be denied traveling with his dog (or staying in any hotel or accompanying him into any private business) within the United States. Unfortunately, those protections are not available to him and his dog when traveling internationally, including Europe.

[Two Bills]

It’s very difficult. My brother is blind and has a highly trained and totally legitimate guide dog. His guide dog is literally his eyes and he is very dependent on her. Legally, he can’t be denied traveling with his dog (or staying in any hotel or accompanying him into any private business) within the United States. Unfortunately, those protections are not available to him and his dog when traveling internationally, including Europe.

Apart from veterinary and health certification, there are no restrictions of entry for guide dogs in UK.and as far as I am aware, majority Europe is the same.
Guide dogs here have legal access same as people to all public transport, buildings etc.

[fdpaq0580]

It’s very difficult. My brother is blind and has a highly trained and totally legitimate guide dog. His guide dog is literally his eyes and he is very dependent on her. Legally, he can’t be denied traveling with his dog (or staying in any hotel or accompanying him into any private business) within the United States. Unfortunately, those protections are not available to him and his dog when traveling internationally, including Europe.

Support for your brother here. For any disability normal societal expectations must be altered or set aside for the disabled to live a more normal life. Unfortunately, science and technology have not effectively been able to alleviate the need of an animal to replace the need for vision. The general public recognize the need for guide dogs.
But, imagine a world where those unable to walk had no option but to be carried, No wheelchairs or electric carts. A carry pony or horse as the animal equivalent of the guide dog. Things would become difficult, to say the least. Horses on planes, busses, trains, in hotels and restaurants. Allowing animals to fill the need or desire for every perceived or conceived illness or disability becomes untenable, to say the least. Thus the distrust of any, non-guide dog, helper or therapy animals. People often cheat the system, and when they do, they cheat all of us. And wee don't like that. It interferes with and diluted support for those who have no other option.
Fact is, your dog is a DOG and really doesn't give a dam(n) about a restaurant, going shopping, traveling anywhere outside their home turf. They want food, shelter, comfort, companionship (that is someone to play or cuddle with). Period.
My advise? Leave "fluffy" with family, friends or a pet sitter. You will be more able to truly and completely enjoy your travel/adventure.
JMHO.

[CFrance]

Wow. How quickly this thread went off track.
Question: Is Ireland part of the Schengen Agreement? If so, there are no quarantine rules for taking a dog there. It's not; however, Ireland appears to be fairly dog-friendly. "To bring a dog to Ireland from the US, your dog must be microchipped, have a valid rabies vaccination (administered after microchipping), and an EU pet passport or health certificate; you will also need to have your dog treated for tapeworms before arrival, and must enter Ireland through a designated port like Dublin Airport or Rosslare Europort to undergo compliance checks upon entry. "

I don't know where you are located, but I can recommend Candice Manganaro, DVD, of Park Heights Animal Care in Fruitland Park if you are in TV. She has handled our two and many others' dogs for traveling outside of the US and knows all the requirements.

Aside from having to get a health certificate within ten days of air travel, there must be an APHIS stamp (Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service) from the Dept. of Agriculture. This used to be available by taking the vet's health cert to Gainesville and walking out with a stamp, but since Covid it's done by mail now. Your stamp could come from anywhere, and you must pay for FedEx or UPS to have it mailed to you. Also, Dr. Manganaro had the right email to "complain" to when our stamp was late in arriving. She can also handle the UPS mailing (costs about $80).

Then there are certain things to be done before coming back home to the US. We always had to visit our vet in France for a health cert and to fill out the proper forms. A deworming pill had to be administered by the vet despite the fact that the dog(s) were already protected for it. It was called a pet passport, but really, it's just the paperwork you need to get back into the US.

We used to fly our Golden Orlando to Frankfurt, Germany, because it was nonstop.Then drive him to France. We would go through all. that. stuff. I guess Lufthansa checked it on the US end, but they never checked it in Germany. He would come off on the large luggage conveyor between sets of golf clubs, and away we would go.
Coming back to the US was a different story. They checked everything, down to his toenails.

[Pairadocs]

why do you have to take the dog.

? Not trying to be snarky/nasty type person, but I didn't see that they said they HAD to ? I took it to mean they wanted to take their dog, but, who knows. Could be a thousand reasons, going for a very long time ? Maybe much longer than one could afford to board or afford to leave a pet ? Might be family there they want to show a new dog to ? Or just so many reasons. Point is, wish I had some advice or experience. Nice to share information when people are polite enough to ask for help.

[CFrance]

OMG! I am guessing that you were going for more than a 2 or 3 week vacation. You have confirmed my opinion about the prospect of traveling internationally with a pet. But, to each their own.
We went for 6-8 months at a time. I wouldn't have taken them for just a vacation, although maybe I would with a little dog that flies in the cabin. Ours were/are big. Europe loves dogs. There were always little dogs in the cabin when we flew, and never any problems.

But the OP was looking for information, not for opinions. I was telling our experience and the regulations for our dogs.

[CFrance]

Oh, also... You have to make a separate reservation for your pet. You can't just say I'm bringing a pet when making your flight reservation. They only allow so many pets in the cabin or cargo. There is, of course, a charge. If a larger dog that has to go in pet cargo, you have to take a plane that has that facility/size.
You can PM me if you want to discuss further. We did it for 13 years.

[Pairadocs]

We went for 6-8 months at a time. I wouldn't have taken them fo1 r just a vacation, although maybe I would with a little dog that flies in the cabin. Ours were/are big. Europe loves dogs. There were always little dogs in the cabin when we flew, and never any problems.

But the OP was looking for information, not for opinions. I was telling our experience and the regulations for our dogs.

Exactly ! To me social media sites, especially like these where they are your neighbors and friends (? maybe ?), and help each other out. But it's amazing how some feel almost a compulsion to TELL other people to do this or that, not "suggest" an alternative, but tell them things like "just leave the dog home" ! ? We no longer have a dog, had MANY, but seems really rude to suggest things to people when someone clearly explains what they need help with. In this instance, person posting didn't say anything about needing advice about the pros and cons of taking their dog or not being able to decide to take or leave pet. Someone on here often posts: READING is fundamental, but some on here seem not to read the posts at all ?

[Carlsondm]

Not an expert in this, but I just flew Delta and a good sized 35 lb dog and owner were across the isle. The dog had to fit by her feet. She paid for an extra seat to have room for her fur baby. Good the entire 5 hr trip. I felt sorry for the dog being on the hard floor the whole trip, but was told this is typical and Delta is reasonable. May want to check into this carrier also.

[Veracity]

Many years ago, I owned a tiny Chihuahua who I often took on airplanes. Not a service dog, nor did I claim that. I don't know if this is still true, but at that time the airlines allowed a limited number of pets hand carried into the cabin of the airplane if they fit into a certain size, airline-approved carrier that must be stowed under the seat the entire flight. Although my Chihuahua had no special training, she always slept the entire flight. She never made a peep and often when the airplane landed and I pulled her crate out from under the seat, the person in the seat next to me would comment (in amazement) that they did not know there was a dog under there. However, I never took her on an international flight. The original post did not specify if their dog is a service animal, so if not, I wanted to let them know that if you have a small, quiet, well-behaved, non-service dog that is used to being in a carrier, and you follow all the airlines rules, you won't have a problem with your dog in the cabin during the flight. I used a soft sided crate and put my foot up against the side and I could feel her leaning against my foot as she slept, rarely moving at all. I could see her sleeping the entire flight. It was not stressful for her like some people here seem to think. She was also fine left alone at home and she was fine left at a boarding facility, a doggie day care or in the company of family/friends (I used them all throughout her life). Sometimes I would board her at my destination while I was sightseeing indoors or take her with me during outdoor activities (but never left alone in a hotel room, in or out of a crate). I don't think any of that was mean and she was used to it all. She was a nice dog and a pleasure to travel with. It just took some pre-planning on my part. Maybe it takes a certain type of dog to be successful. In life, she was very calm (didn't shiver like some Chihuahuas). She enjoyed having strangers pet her, but could care less if they walked past her with no acknowledgement that she even existed. She ignored other dogs. She would have no reaction to other dogs smelling her, but did not return that behavior and she rarely barked. No training. It's just the way she was.

[defrey12]

I would be interested in that too. Traveling is so important to us. I'm always afraid that the people assigned in the seat next to me or in front/behind will be allergic and I would be the cause of it. Due to the dangers to other people and their needs, we used a licensed commercial shipper who handled all the vaccs, housing hold, and other needs that are required once an animal arrives in the UK. Well worth the $3,200 to ship her so she could travel for a few days. She was happy to get out of doggie jail after 48 hours to ensure she had no diseases, et cetera. But maybe going with her on a cargo plane would be cheaper and easier.

I love my dog too…but $3200 for a few days?! That’s just nuts. $21/day at the vets. He’ll love to see you when you return.

[defrey12]

Support for your brother here. For any disability normal societal expectations must be altered or set aside for the disabled to live a more normal life. Unfortunately, science and technology have not effectively been able to alleviate the need of an animal to replace the need for vision. The general public recognize the need for guide dogs.
But, imagine a world where those unable to walk had no option but to be carried, No wheelchairs or electric carts. A carry pony or horse as the animal equivalent of the guide dog. Things would become difficult, to say the least. Horses on planes, busses, trains, in hotels and restaurants. Allowing animals to fill the need or desire for every perceived or conceived illness or disability becomes untenable, to say the least. Thus the distrust of any, non-guide dog, helper or therapy animals. People often cheat the system, and when they do, they cheat all of us. And wee don't like that. It interferes with and diluted support for those who have no other option.
Fact is, your dog is a DOG and really doesn't give a dam(n) about a restaurant, going shopping, traveling anywhere outside their home turf. They want food, shelter, comfort, companionship (that is someone to play or cuddle with). Period.
My advise? Leave "fluffy" with family, friends or a pet sitter. You will be more able to truly and completely enjoy your travel/adventure.
JMHO.

Well said. Thank goodness

[thelegges]

So OP has only asked for experience on flying with a pet. However OP has not given a time frame. Maybe a job transfer, military move with family, just choosing to live in another country.

What does it matter to anyone, why tell the OP that you know better what is good for their pet, and their life? If you were moving for 1-7 years would You board your pet? Maybe just give away to anyone?

If I was the OP I definitely would not return to this thread to beaten down by those who choose to berate for asking for experience on travel with pet.

[airstreamingypsy]

Good grief, the OP asked a question and out of all these replies only a few people answered. It's none of your business why the OP is bringing the dog and I doubt the OP cares about your opinions on bringing the dog. Wah wah wah.....

[Bridget Staunton]

Has the dog been quarantined, 3 months I believe. I think it’s necessary, not sure. That is a hardship on the dog, leave it with relatives

[TVTVTV]

I would be interested in that too. Traveling is so important to us. I'm always afraid that the people assigned in the seat next to me or in front/behind will be allergic and I would be the cause of it. Due to the dangers to other people and their needs, we used a licensed commercial shipper who handled all the vaccs, housing hold, and other needs that are required once an animal arrives in the UK. Well worth the $3,200 to ship her so she could travel for a few days. She was happy to get out of doggie jail after 48 hours to ensure she had no diseases, et cetera. But maybe going with her on a cargo plane would be cheaper and easier.

Appreciate you being considerate of those with animal allergies. I think any traveling animal (service animal, crated animal, etc) should be confined to a certain designated animal zone, so allergic folks don't have to endure respiratory issues. Just like many pet-friendly hotels block off certain rooms or floors, between breathing issues, dander, and hopefully not fleas, I prefer not to be enclosed in a confined space with animals. Thanks for checking into flying options.