Push/Pull Plastic Water Values

[ridge]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

[retiredguy123]

I replaced my two toilet valves with metal quarter turn valves because they are used regularly to replace the toilet gasket and other internal parts. The other valves are rarely used, so I have not replaced them. If your non-toilet valves are not leaking, I would just leave them alone. I would recommend replacing the toilet valves. My opinion.

[ridge]

I replaced my two toilet valves with metal quarter turn valves because they are used regularly to replace the toilet gasket and other internal parts. The other valves are rarely used, so I have not replaced them. If your non-toilet valves are not leaking, I would just leave them alone. I would recommend replacing the toilet valves. My opinion.

Thanks. Good suggestion.

[Bill14564]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

Mine is 11 years old with no problems yet.

Others don't trust them and replace them as soon as possible. Get an estimate first, the job is fairly simple and there are a lot of those valves in your house so a per/valve price could quickly add up. (2 for toilets, 1 for fridge, 10 for sinks, dishwasher?)

People have mentioned Shark bite valves in the past.

[dewilson58]

Mine is 11 years old with no problems yet.



Same here.

[rjm1cc]

At about 10 years the one on the master bedroom toilet failed and I had it replaced. Have two other toilets and no problem. I would wait until it fails. I also have the push/pull on the refrigerator, and sinks with no problem.
I agree with you that I would prefer a different value.

[Topspinmo]

Mine are over 20 years old I have about 4 left to replace in my house. I have observed the nylon hose start oozing sticky yellow looking goo I replace them, seems the cold side goes first? IMO that sign they are deteriorating? So far none have leaks.

I replace mine with shark bite (SB) or Quick fitting brand (same design SB) they can easily be removed don’t have mess with glue or corroded copper. Plumbers use SB or quick fitting brands also. How do I know MS plumbing installed them on my kitchen sink and Lowe’s contractor did on my hot water tank installation.

You can do search for Accor/flowtite push pull valves or push pull valves this subject has come up many times.

[metoo21]

I replaced all of mine with BrassCraft 1/2 in. CPVC Inlet x 3/8 in. Comp Outlet 1/4-Turn Angle Ball Valve (https://www.homedepot.com/p/BrassCraft-1-2-in-CPVC-Inlet-x-3-8-in-Comp-Outlet-1-4-Turn-Angle-Ball-Valve-KTPR19X-C1/205214450). They are the glue on type and the body can be unscrewed should the valve ever need replacing. Sharkbites can fail.

[Topspinmo]

I replaced all of mine with BrassCraft 1/2 in. CPVC Inlet x 3/8 in. Comp Outlet 1/4-Turn Angle Ball Valve (https://www.homedepot.com/p/BrassCraft-1-2-in-CPVC-Inlet-x-3-8-in-Comp-Outlet-1-4-Turn-Angle-Ball-Valve-KTPR19X-C1/205214450). They are the glue on type and the body can be unscrewed should the valve ever need replacing. Sharkbites can fail.

No guarantees in plumbing, why plumbers there alway busy. Two connections vs 4.

Your valve can fail also, more places to leak and brass will corrode over time. Also could leak between the clued on PVC slip and brass valve. My SBs got 11 years on them so far easily turn off and on and look like new. To each their own.

[n8xwb]

Yes, they wear out. By that I mean, occasionally they will trip to off for no apparent reason -- I presume due to an increase in water pressure.

I know a lot of folks will have a problem with my solution, but .... I have done this on most all of my valves and the fix works perfectly and costs almost nothing. I drill a hole in the valve and then use a cable tie so the valve cannot trip unless the cable tie is removed.

The valve can be tripped manually when needed -- cut the cable tie! Then use a new tie as needed!

Simple, easy to do and costs close to ZERO!

Remember, these valves serve one purpose, only. They allow you to shut the water off to whatever appliance (sink, toilet, ice maker, etc) they provide water to. They do NOTHING else.

Photo attached.

[ronda]

How clever!!! Well done.

[Cuervo]

I've lived here 14 year and also have had no problem, but every time I need to use it, I have this feeling it's going to fail.
I had a bidet put in for my wife a while back and since the plumber was working on the bidet I had him change that valve on to a metal turn valve.

[jamorela]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

Torri Plumbing replaced all of mine with metal, quarter turn valves.

[maggie1]

Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.[/QUOTE]

I'm no home improvement guy by any means, but I replaced all of the push-pulls, myself, with Shark-Bite metal valves and metal braided hoses. It's a simple process and you enjoy doing something that's going to cost you a heck of a lot less than calling in a plumber. PM me and I'll walk you through the process.

[lpkruege1]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

The push pull valves are worthless. If I have to replace any plumbing seals, gaskets, toilet valves,,, I just turn of the main in the garage. Thats a quarter turn valve and it works. I consider the push pull valves single use valve. Use them once and figure you need to replace them.

[eeroger]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

For peace of mind, I had our Handyman replace all of the push/pull valves in our home at around 10 years. The only one
he didn't replace was the ice maker. That is tricky to replace and I will have a plumber do that one.

[jimmy o]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.
Our house is 20 years old. No leaks so far. We’ve been replacing push/pulls as work gets done. Got a new disposal, and had plumber replace PPs while he was here. Got new bathroom faucets had plumber replace PPs while he was here. We will continue with this methodology as it seems cost effective and logical to us.

[BOWRUNNER]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses. My home is 22 years old, I still have push/pull no leaks yet.

[cwmmfink]

My house 17 years old. Replaced one.

[Mrs. Heck]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

Have owned our home 20 years. No issues, but had them all changed this year because one hot water valve kept popping under a sink. I’d push it back in and the water would flow. Next time I’d try to use it though it had popped out again. Wasn’t leaking, but it caused concern, so we changed them all. Feels better not to have that worry.

[billethkid]

21 years and no problems (yet!).

[DrMack]

Those valves are junk! Whomever built your home took the cheapest way out on plumbing. I would have them replaced. It isn’t that expensive to put in the metal shutters-offs. We ended up with the plastic push pulls in our house and have already replaced one.

[ithos]

Yes, they wear out. By that I mean, occasionally they will trip to off for no apparent reason -- I presume due to an increase in water pressure.

I know a lot of folks will have a problem with my solution, but .... I have done this on most all of my valves and the fix works perfectly and costs almost nothing. I drill a hole in the valve and then use a cable tie so the valve cannot trip unless the cable tie is removed.

The valve can be tripped manually when needed -- cut the cable tie! Then use a new tie as needed!

Simple, easy to do and costs close to ZERO!

Remember, these valves serve one purpose, only. They allow you to shut the water off to whatever appliance (sink, toilet, ice maker, etc) they provide water to. They do NOTHING else.

Photo attached.

What was the purpose? The risk is the valve springing a leak and flooding the floor, not an inadvertent closure.
The major risk is flooding the floor and cabinets. They do fail and when they do it can be a very expensive repair. When you see the internal construction you will know why. Especially if they are cycled many times. I would be very concerned if they kept popping closed. This is a sign of degradation.

Unveiling ACCOR FlowTite: The Epic Fail of Plumbing Valves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsLHBqYmvTQ#:~:text=so%20you%27re%20gonna% 20get%20you%27re%20gonna%20get,of%20water%20though %20so%20just%20watch%20out.&text=and%20if%20you%20got%20them%20in%20your,close %20property%20damage%20they%20cost%20you%20money.
and A PLUMBING PART YOU SHOULD NEVER BUY!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-NJKE_8HNQ
There are many youtube videos showing how to replace them.
Also there was a previous thread on the same topic.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/do-yourself-210/push-pull-water-valves-106180/index2.html

[Topspinmo]

Those valves are junk! Whomever built your home took the cheapest way out on plumbing. I would have them replaced. It isn’t that expensive to put in the metal shutters-offs. We ended up with the plastic push pulls in our house and have already replaced one.


My guess Here in villages that would be the developers contracted plumbers or in other words the plumbers IMO.

[trishaf]

I had The Villager Plumbers here for one job and he advised me to add on extras as I am paying a service fee for them to come, not a lot of money I had my valves replaced.

[Stu from NYC]

I had The Villager Plumbers here for one job and he advised me to add on extras as I am paying a service fee for them to come, not a lot of money I had my valves replaced.

We had them come for another service and plumber tried to talk me into replacing them. Cost was extremely high per piece so we did not go ahead for now.

[nordic tug]

13 years on all of mine without any leaks, when something needs to be replaced or serviced I firmly hold the valve body when opening or closing .

[retiredguy123]

One poster says the cost was not a lot and another poster says the cost was extremely high. Not very helpful. Posting an actual cost would be more helpful.

[john352]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

My home in The Villages is 21 years old, and I have not had any problems with the plastic push shut-off valves. The original plastic main shut-off valve in the garage was very difficult to use. When my home was 19 years old, the hot water pipe located under the concrete floor in the master bathroom broke and flooded the master bathroom and master bathroom. During the $10,000+ repairs, I had the plastic main shut-off valve in the garage replaced with an easy-to-use brass valve. I shut off the main valve if I need to work on a toilet or four faucets inside my home and the water heater.

If you hire a plumber to do the work, I suggest paying to replace the only main valve in the garage rather than the valves at the toilets.

[Topspinmo]

One poster says the cost was not a lot and another poster says the cost was extremely high. Not very helpful. Posting an actual cost would be more helpful.

When I replaced mine cost me around 16 bucks hose depending on length needed. Two connections, slip on and at faucet or toilet, toilets have different threads/sealing and cheaper. I have 14 in my CYV. Got 5 left, forgot one. The hardest one, refrigerator ice maker line.

[Professor]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

Mine are 15 years old and none have leaked.

[mikeberk]

One of my valves started to leak when it was about six years old. I noticed a puddle under the valve behind the bathroom toilet. I replaced all of them with 90° metal ball valves. The replacement PVC glue on valves are available at Lowe’s or Home Depot. To get the existing shark bite valve off pull out and turn counterclockwise about 30 times. Remember to pull on the valve every time you turn it. I also replaced all of the feeder lines with braided reinforced lines. Don’t forget to replace the dishwasher and refrigerator push pull Acron valves.

[jrref]

The problem with these push-pull valves is not only that they can fail over time BUT on some valves like the ice maker and the toilets you can't replace the supply hose. These supply hoses are rated for about 5 - 8 years and after that you are gambling on when they will fail. And yes, there will be the homeowners who say theirs are going on 20 years without a problem and that's fine. Just know you are gambling every day and if and when you do get the failure of the valve or supply hose, unless you are home and catch the flood, you will be in for a very large expense and inconvenience.

Same goes for the washing machine hoses. They need to be changed every 5 years or so or whatever they are warranteed for. Some are 5 years and some are 10 years. If and when you have a washing maching supply hose failure, you will remember it for the rest of your life. Especially if it happens when you are not home, like shopping at Publix or while eating out or dancing at the square. The flooding will be dramatic.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

everything works until it doesn't. .

As far as those who say wait until they leak, are counting on them leaking slowly and is found as soon as the leak starts. However, that would be good luck. Bad luck would be a flood while no one is home. .

I replaced mine with shark bites myself, where they were easy. However, there was one under a toilet which was difficult, and scarred the PVC, so i had a plumber do it, with a pvc glue on valve for safety, because I like to be proactive on maintenance, which saves time and money in the long run.

Goodluck to those of you who are lazy with known crappy valves, your luck might work, but it might not.

[ithos]

Has anyone installed a smart isolation valve which will close upon a detection of water on the floor through out the house?

This is one I found on Amazon.
Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/YoLink-Automatic-Detection-Manipulator-Controller/dp/B098QP4ZLH?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A2E6L4XU587CP3&th=1)

[tjdmlhw]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

Our home is over 17 years old and still has the original valves with no problems. Last year our original dishwasher quit (17 years is a good run for a dishwasher) and Home Depot would not do the installation because of the pull/push valve. They set up installation with a plumber, but it was going to be over a week delay, so we called our normal plumber to have the job done. They said they would use the old valve, but would not guarantee the work. We had them switch over to a metal valve.

[jrref]

Has anyone installed a smart isolation valve which will close upon a detection of water on the floor through out the house?

This is one I found on Amazon.
Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/YoLink-Automatic-Detection-Manipulator-Controller/dp/B098QP4ZLH?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A2E6L4XU587CP3&th=1)

This will not work on the main shutoff valves we have here in the Villages unless you change it for a brass one and even then there may not be enough room.

As soon as I moved in to my Villages home, I installed an automated main water shutoff valve and water sensors throughout my home. Look for the in-line valve systems like from Moen, Homeseer and others.

[nn0wheremann]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.
I have one that is 22 years old. Works just fine. Use it about once or twice a year. Previous owner replaced the other one before we bought at 13 years.

[jrref]

Our home is over 17 years old and still has the original valves with no problems. Last year our original dishwasher quit (17 years is a good run for a dishwasher) and Home Depot would not do the installation because of the pull/push valve. They set up installation with a plumber, but it was going to be over a week delay, so we called our normal plumber to have the job done. They said they would use the old valve, but would not guarantee the work. We had them switch over to a metal valve.

Your situation is a great example of not having a problem for many years BUT this usually is not the norm and as mentioned, you are gambling every day you keep those old valves and supply hoses.

Take it from experience, in your case when everything is very old, you probably won't get a slow leak. You will probably get a failure and the flood will be spectacular.

[LuLinn]

Torri replaced ours with all metal in the first year but I cannot what we paid.

[Stu from NYC]

One poster says the cost was not a lot and another poster says the cost was extremely high. Not very helpful. Posting an actual cost would be more helpful.

The quote from village plumber was about $ 100 per valve

[retiredguy123]

The quote from village plumber was about $ 100 per valve
I agree that is extremely high. Mike Scott only charged me $120 for 2 valves. I would hope there would a discount for 14 valves. From other posts, I have concluded that Village Plumber is higher than most plumbers.

[loufromnewjersey]

Need to remember that the push/pull valves are out of code now so you need to replace them when installing anything new. I went with metal 1/4 turn valves.

[retiredguy123]

Need to remember that the push/pull valves are out of code now so you need to replace them when installing anything new. I went with metal 1/4 turn valves.
Do you have a source for the code violation? My research indicates that the Accor push-pull valves do comply with the National Plumbing Code.

[Nell57]

I had a plumber here for an unrelated issue. I told him that I would like to replace all the valves in my 18 year old house. He asked me if I ever used those valves, because once you start pushing them in and out is when you have problems. I said no….i always turn off water in the garage.
He said to just leave them alone, so that’s what I do.

[Ecuadog]

I agree that is extremely high. Mike Scott only charged me $120 for 2 valves. I would hope there would a discount for 14 valves. From other posts, I have concluded that Village Plumber is higher than most plumbers.

Mike Scott recently quoted me $69 per valve.

[Altavia]

Has anyone tried to collect on the 10yr parts and labor warranty?

https://accortechnology.com/images/pdfs/324_FLOWTITE_ACCOR_Warranty_1606.pdf


ACCOR® Technology, Inc. warrants to the original consumer purchaser that FlowTite® supply stop valves shall be free from defects in material and workmanship for a period of 1O years in residential use or 1 year in commercial use from the date of purchase as shown on purchaser's receipt.

In the event that this product fails to function during the warranty period due to proven defects in material or workmanship, ACCOR will pay to the consumer the prorated reasonable cost including labor, of removing the defective valve and replacing it with a new FlowTite valve.

[tippyclubb]

I would definitely replace them all with metal. The plastic ones under the plastic knobs leaked and destroyed the bottom of the cabinet.

[Pairadocs]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

Had no problems at all for 17 years, then needed a new refrigerator right before the holidays. Found NO appliance store in the area would install a new refrigerator IF the home had the old pop up style valves ! So decided that 17 years with no problems was pushing our luck, had the village plumbers change the entire house, $68 each. Most quoted $78. The faucet type valves with braided stainless steel are MUCH less than that at HD, Lowe's, and Ace, so if you can do rather simple home tasks, replacing the values does not take major plumbing skills, we had other more complicated work at the same time, so just decided to have them do all the valves in the house and garage at the same time. Very satisfied with Village Plumbers, chose due to good reviews on here !

[Pairadocs]

The quote from village plumber was about $ 100 per valve

Sounds pretty high, we just had whole house valves replace by same business week after Thanksgiving... was $68 each ! Maybe they charged you more because that was the only thing you had done ? ? Don't know, we had other work, new sink installed, new disposal, couple other things so maybe that's why the 10 values were so much less for us ? Perhaps ?

[Pairadocs]

Mike Scott recently quoted me $69 per valve.

That's what we just paid Village plumber, $100 is really high ? Wonder if the people who posted that had Frank G. ?

[retiredguy123]

Sounds pretty high, we just had whole house valves replace by same business week after Thanksgiving... was $68 each ! Maybe they charged you more because that was the only thing you had done ? ? Don't know, we had other work, new sink installed, new disposal, couple other things so maybe that's why the 10 values were so much less for us ? Perhaps ?
This company charged a woman $250 to drain a water heater. That is outrageous and it is not even a job that requires a plumber. They should have sent a non-plumber or referred her to a handyman. They told another customer that they couldn't tell them how much they charge to come to their house. Any company who can't tell you the cost for a service call is off of my list. Mike Scott Plumbing has upfront and fixed pricing. I will not be calling the Village Plumber for any work.

[Pairadocs]

Thanks. Good suggestion.

If you do decide to replace them, do NOT forget to lubricate and turn the newer faucet type ones at least once a year, easy to forget those that are hidden behind and under !

[Wdunk]

Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

I'm no home improvement guy by any means, but I replaced all of the push-pulls, myself, with Shark-Bite metal valves and metal braided hoses. It's a simple process and you enjoy doing something that's going to cost you a heck of a lot less than calling in a plumber. PM me and I'll walk you through the process.[/QUOTE]

[Rocksnap]

The quote from village plumber was about $ 100 per valve

Wow! Does that come with a whole body massage, too?

[Rocksnap]

Need to remember that the push/pull valves are out of code now so you need to replace them when installing anything new. I went with metal 1/4 turn valves.
Push/pull are out of code? Since when? Our Premier new build in Shady Brook (Eastport) has them. House is just over 3 months old.

[Singerlady]

We replaced ALL of them years ago. House is now 13 years old. We didn’t like the old ones, didn’t trust them and it was well worth the cost.

[maggie1]

If anyone wants to remove the push-pull valve, here is a video on how it is done. After removal, I'd suggest replacing it with a SharkBite valve and a steel braided supply line. Amazon has a variety of SharkBite valves, and I saw a packaged deal for four valves at $50. It's an easy fix if you like the idea of a DIY project.

removing a push-pull plastic valve from a toilet - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=removing+a+push-pull+plastic+valve+from+a+toilet&rlz=1C1UEAD_enUS1113US1113&oq=removing+a+push-pull+plastic+valve&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgDECEYoAEyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIR igATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRiP AtIBCTIwNTgxajBqNKgCCLACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8%23fpstate=ive&vld=cid:234ea838,vid:5_83aCRsYsY,st:0&sei=i6uPZ8bvMKiPwbkP6sLeqQw)

[wbilbrey99@gmail.com]

Had all mine changed to shark bite. It was worth it. Think of the cost if one fails.

[bshuler]

We had 10 of them in my last house. No failures in 25 years.

A plumber did shake his head when he saw them (couldn’t believe the builder used them)..

[retiredguy123]

I agree that the push-pull valves are not a good product, but they are very popular and used by builders all over the country, not just in The Villages. And, they do comply with the plumbing code.

[Taltarzac725]

Can anyone suggest a good reasonably priced Villages' plumber to replace a push-pull valve that broke on me while pressure washing my sidewalk?

Did not know there was a problem until I took a break from pressure washing and found myself resting my feet on a wet carpet in front of the John.

Had to turn water off in the house as the leak continues with no tab attached to the push-pull valve .


Back toilet push-pull was replaced about 6 or more years ago. Before COVID.

[Bill14564]

Can anyone suggest a good reasonably priced Villages' plumber to replace a push-pull valve that broke on me while pressure washing my sidewalk?

Did not know there was a problem until I took a break from pressure washing and found myself resting my feet on a wet carpet in front of the John.

Had to turn water off in the house as the leak continues with no tab attached to the push-pull valve .


Back toilet push-pull was replaced about 6 or more years ago. Before COVID.

You've seen recommendations for plumbers on here. We've had success with Mike Scott but haven't had any valves replaced so can't speak to the price for that.

The YouTube videos on removing those made it look pretty simple. You might be able to do it yourself in less time that it would take to find a number to call.

[Taltarzac725]

You've seen recommendations for plumbers on here. We've had success with Mike Scott but haven't had any valves replaced so can't speak to the price for that.

The YouTube videos on removing those made it look pretty simple. You might be able to do it yourself in less time that it would take to find a number to call.

Does Ace Hardware carry these push-pull valves? The one in my front bathroom fell apart.

[Bill14564]

Does Ace Hardware carry these push-pull valves? The one in my front bathroom fell apart.

I'm sorry, I haven't looked for them.

I imagine Ace would have some sort of Shark bite 1/4 turn valve but you could call to ask. I have to believe Lowes would also.

[retiredguy123]

Can anyone suggest a good reasonably priced Villages' plumber to replace a push-pull valve that broke on me while pressure washing my sidewalk?

Did not know there was a problem until I took a break from pressure washing and found myself resting my feet on a wet carpet in front of the John.

Had to turn water off in the house as the leak continues with no tab attached to the push-pull valve .


Back toilet push-pull was replaced about 6 or more years ago. Before COVID.
Mike Scott Plumbing replaced the 2 toilet valves in my house with quarter turn metal valves for $60 each plus a $75 trip fee. I don't see a reason to replace the other valves because I have never needed to use them. But, if I wanted to replace all of them, I would count them (it should be about 13 valves) and call a few plumbers to get a firm lump sum price to replace every valve. Personally, I would only hire a licensed plumber to do the work.

[hotpotato]

Look on YouTube for relevant videos. Not that hard to do. I bought my valves at HomeDepot - BrassCraft PR19X C1 - multiturn angle valve.

[jrref]

You've seen recommendations for plumbers on here. We've had success with Mike Scott but haven't had any valves replaced so can't speak to the price for that.

The YouTube videos on removing those made it look pretty simple. You might be able to do it yourself in less time that it would take to find a number to call.

Although the mechanism to remove these valves looks simple and it is, you need a lot of arm and hand strength to turn and pull these valves off. I had all 13 of my valves changed. The plumber was in his late 20's and was having a tough time. Some come off easy and some not so easy. I would recommend getting a plumber if you have more than a couple to change. Look at it as a one time investment in preventing a future flood in your home.

[Bill14564]

Although the mechanism to remove these valves looks simple and it is, you need a lot of arm and hand strength to turn and pull these valves off. I had all 13 of my valves changed. The plumber was in his late 20's and was having a tough time. Some come off easy and some not so easy. I would recommend getting a plumber if you have more than a couple to change. Look at it as a one time investment in preventing a future flood in your home.

Under normal circumstances I would not change any. If I wanted to change them all I might get a plumber also. But a flooded room on a Sunday afternoon resulting in no water in the house wasn't normal circumstances.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Look on YouTube for relevant videos. Not that hard to do. I bought my valves at HomeDepot - BrassCraft PR19X C1 - multiturn angle valve.

not hard, until it is. . I did the easy ones until I couldn't, and then called a plumber. .

examples of hard:
1) very little body space between sink cabinet and outlet to gain leverage to pull against without pulling on pipe
2) refrigerator in wall box with no room to hold pipe and lift valve off
3) zero pipe extension from wall when the plastic pipe gets scarred

everything works until it doesn't
lots of activities are easy until they aren't

[bilcon]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

Mine are 15 years old and never leaked. I do turn off my main water when I go on trips.

[JRcorvette]

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

If they push in or out easily they are starting to fail. A plumber can replace them with the old fashioned type we all use to have. We replaced one that failed but there was no leaking.

[jrref]

Mine are 15 years old and never leaked. I do turn off my main water when I go on trips.

It's like anything else. Once you are beyond the "lifespan" of the device, you are gambling on having a devistating flood in your home. Most of the time they just start leaking but that leak can also cause a lot of damage if you are not aware of it. So, unless you are going to check under all your sinks and behind your refrigerator every day, best to plan to get them replaced.

[DAVES]

No guarantees in plumbing, why plumbers there alway busy. Two connections vs 4.

Your valve can fail also, more places to leak and brass will corrode over time. Also could leak between the clued on PVC slip and brass valve. My SBs got 11 years on them so far easily turn off and on and look like new. To each their own.

Useless history. In high school-long time ago-I got a summer job working in a machine shop. No skill but cheap labor. We were making valves out of monel-expensive, stainless steel. I made over a million parts. Why monel? They were expensive and sold in the south to stand up to the water. Who knows some might still be working. Why are parts plastic not brass. Simple, our water eats brass and it is more expensive than PLASTIC. Things are done far different than used to be. I still have tubing benders for the solid pipes used to fill the ballcock and the sink valves. The ballcock was brass and you would rebuild it. Valves the good ones had replaceable seats. All is compromise, cost, time-same as cost and good enough.

[Topspinmo]

Useless history. In high school-long time ago-I got a summer job working in a machine shop. No skill but cheap labor. We were making valves out of monel-expensive, stainless steel. I made over a million parts. Why monel? They were expensive and sold in the south to stand up to the water. Who knows some might still be working. Why are parts plastic not brass. Simple, our water eats brass and it is more expensive than PLASTIC. Things are done far different than used to be. I still have tubing benders for the solid pipes used to fill the ballcock and the sink valves. The ballcock was brass and you would rebuild it. Valves the good ones had replaceable seats. All is compromise, cost, time-same as cost and good enough.

Still no guarantee in plumbing EVERYTHING fails eventually or all sudden.