Championship Courses, Tee Time Scammers

[BrianL99]

So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

[Bogie Shooter]

Why not ask the guy you suspect, if he accidentally used your info.
The tee time folks can help if you don't like his answer.........

[asianthree]

Under your name and number you can cancel reservation. Since you have given your name and number to this person, then not much you can do except publicly shame. He is using you as a place holder for someone, so do what makes you happy if it interferes with your plans.

You willingly gave your number to make tee times with a group. Mistake or not.. It’s common practice to hold a spot, but usually in our case was asked first.

[BrianL99]

Why not ask the guy you suspect, if he accidentally used your info.
The tee time folks can help if you don't like his answer.........

There's no "suspect", the information is clear.

It's pretty hard to do that, "accidently", considering you get a confirmation on the screen, then an email.

[jbsnarkin]

Someone in the reservation used your number. Just cancel. Call the course and let them know why. Hopefully they won’t give you points

[BrianL99]

Someone in the reservation used your number. Just cancel. Call the course and let them know why. Hopefully they won’t give you points

Doing that, simply allows such abuse to continue.

It's not acceptable for someone to affirmatively try to abuse and cheat the system and use my name to do it.

[John Mayes]

So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

Just call or talk in person to the guy that did it. Tell him to not do it in the future. If he does, then call the tee time office.

My opinion, address the situation yourself instead of expecting someone to handle it for you.

[BrianL99]

Just call or talk in person to the guy that did it. Tell him to not do it in the future. If he does, then call the tee time office.

My opinion, address the situation yourself instead of expecting someone to handle it for you.

Oh I see? I just call the guy & ask him to call the Tee Time Office & tell them he tried to scam a Tee Time & oh by the way, make sure you don't assess points against the guy I tried to scam. That should work well.

[biker1]

There is a possibility that he inadvertently clicked on your name from the pull down menu of players when making a reservation on the Villages website. I have done this in the past when I was distracted. If it happened for a request (instead of a reservation) then my first thought is he was using you as a ghost golfer if you didn't have any points. For a reservation, however, there is a good possibility of just a mistake in the pull down menu as he could have just put in a guest. Just take yourself out. If the points for cancelling are an issue, call the tee time office.

So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

[John Mayes]

Oh I see? I just call the guy & ask him to call the Tee Time Office & tell them he tried to scam a Tee Time & oh by the way, make sure you don't assess points against the guy I tried to scam. That should work well.

Is your intention to stop the guy from using your info to ghost or is your intention that the guy gets punished for using it in the past?

Your original post made it sound like that you didn’t want him to use you in the future as a place holder.

[Topspinmo]

I haven’t play championship course 12 years or more, don’t know the procedure of reservations. Heck some one could be using my name? Or does it make difference in points on championships courses cause I sure it there openings they will fill it regardless of points system? Then other question is, how did he get your information? When group plays does the person making the reservation had to have all pertinent information of other players on championship courses (players out of bubble wouldn’t have ID numbers) If not that person gotten you identification numbers somehow? Obvious question to me? you gave it to him how you know who doing it, so the system could be cheated for golfers that play 2 or more rounds day or want prime time slots at certain course?

[Bogie Shooter]

There's no "suspect", the information is clear.

It's pretty hard to do that, "accidently", considering you get a confirmation on the screen, then an email.

So which suggestion are you going to pick?

[asianthree]

.Either way one looks at it the person in question Did not Scam the number. The number was given willingly. Except the consequences that this may or may not happen again. Cancel the reservation, choose to contact the person or not. Either way lesson learned. It’s not the first time a reservation has been made with someone else’s ID, it won’t be the last. Or in case of scheduling 40 people you weren’t the special guy, just an error on users part. Most would just email the person LTK a mistake was made.

[Pugchief]

I don't play that much, but don't you need a PIN in addition to your member# to do the booking? Why would someone else have your PIN?

[BrianL99]

I don't play that much, but don't you need a PIN in addition to your member# to do the booking? Why would someone else have your PIN?

No, you don't. I don't quite get that part of the system. It doesn't make sense that you add anyone you want, as long as you have their #.

[asianthree]

No, you don't. I don't quite get that part of the system. It doesn't make sense that you add anyone you want, as long as you have their #.

How else would the system work for groups of 4 to 40 making tee times. Ask each individual to make their own and hope for the best?

[BrianL99]

Is your intention to stop the guy from using your info to ghost or is your intention that the guy gets punished for using it in the past?

Your original post made it sound like that you didn’t want him to use you in the future as a place holder.

I don't want anyone using my number and I think there should be zero tolerance for manipulating the Tee Time system.

I just stepped through the process, to see if it could be done by accident. I can see that in *some* circumstances, when booking a large group ... it could be possible. In this instance, I can't see how it could be a mistake.

[walterray1]

I don't want anyone using my number and I think there should be zero tolerance for manipulating the Tee Time system.

I just stepped through the process, to see if it could be done by accident. I can see that in *some* circumstances, when booking a large group ... it could be possible. In this instance, I can't see how it could be a mistake.

I still don't see the point of your original post. It seems like there have been a number of possible solutions to your issue. However, your responses seemed focused on the system. What are you looking for?

[BrianL99]

I still don't see the point of your original post. It seems like there have been a number of possible solutions to your issue. However, your responses seemed focused on the system. What are you looking for?

I was hoping someone has had a similar experience and was curious what they did about it and how it all worked out.

The Tee Time office apparently isn't available on weekends, so I can't simply ask them and the various FAQ's from the Villages Golf, don't have any mention of it, that I can find.

In other words, I was hoping i could tap into the collective wisdom of the folks on TOTV, but no one seems to have had a similar experience or if they did, they're not interested in talking about it.

[biker1]

Well, no. Any person who you have entered in the past is remembered by the system. You can then select anyone from the pulldown menu either intentionally or by mistake.

I don't want anyone using my number and I think there should be zero tolerance for manipulating the Tee Time system.

I just stepped through the process, to see if it could be done by accident. I can see that in *some* circumstances, when booking a large group ... it could be possible. In this instance, I can't see how it could be a mistake.

[biker1]

Remove yourself from the reservation. If you don't want the cancellation point then call the tee time office on Monday and see if they will remove them. Otherwise, just wait 7 days for the points to roll off. If it happens again, then perhaps you should call the tee time office and discuss further.


I was hoping someone has had a similar experience and was curious what they did about it and how it all worked out.

The Tee Time office apparently isn't available on weekends, so I can't simply ask them and the various FAQ's from the Villages Golf, don't have any mention of it, that I can find.

In other words, I was hoping i could tap into the collective wisdom of the folks on TOTV, but no one seems to have had a similar experience or if they did, they're not interested in talking about it.

[BrianL99]

Well, no. Any person who you have entered in the past is remembered by the system. You can then select anyone from the pulldown menu either intentionally or by mistake.

A lot of times when I want to play golf with Scottie Scheffler, I scroll down my friends list and mistakenly click on Phil Mickelson.. It's hard to tell the names apart.

But it is The Villages.

[biker1]

There is no reason why anyone would intentionally put you in a reservation. There is no advantage to doing it. They might put you intentionally in a request, if you have zero points. Apparently this is yet another first world problem.

A lot of times when I want to play golf with Scottie Scheffler, I scroll down my friends list and mistakenly click on Phil Mickelson.. It's hard to tell the names apart.

But it is The Villages.

[BrianL99]

There is no reason why anyone would intentionally put you in a reservation. There is no advantage to doing it. They might put you intentionally in a request, if you have zero points. Apparently this is yet another first world problem.

That is incorrect.

People do it for a number of reasons. Husband and wives (boyfriends/girlfriends) do it hundreds of times a day, so they get to play alone, without being forced to "pair up".

People do it to "block a spot", when they're not sure which or how many of their friends are available to play on a specific day.

People do it, so they can improve their chances of getting a preferred Tee Time, and their friends aren't Enhanced Members, as I am.

The reasons to abuse the Tee Time system, are as varied as the number of golf courses we have.

I get that folks that aren't really golfers or have much familiarity with the system might not understand how and why the abuse occurs, but it does and it's not fair to other folks who use the system, honestly.

[RouseysMom]

Why not show up to play? Arrive at your scheduled tee time with your id? That should put an end to it.

[TeresaA]

why not show up to play? Arrive at your scheduled tee time with your id? That should put an end to it.


best answer!

[biker1]

Nope. They can put in a guest to accomplish any of those for a reservation except for your suggestions that actually referred to a request (highlighted below), not a reservation - they are different animals. Was your ID used for a reservation or a request? Do you understand the difference? If it was a request then there is a greater probability that it was not a mistake and you were being used as a ghost golfer - a not all that uncommon occurrence. Regardless, just remove yourself and call the tee time office if it happens again.

That is incorrect.

People do it for a number of reasons. Husband and wives (boyfriends/girlfriends) do it hundreds of times a day, so they get to play alone, without being forced to "pair up".

People do it to "block a spot", when they're not sure which or how many of their friends are available to play on a specific day.

People do it, so they can improve their chances of getting a preferred Tee Time, and their friends aren't Enhanced Members, as I am.

The reasons to abuse the Tee Time system, are as varied as the number of golf courses we have.

I get that folks that aren't really golfers or have much familiarity with the system might not understand how and why the abuse occurs, but it does and it's not fair to other folks who use the system, honestly.

[Ski Bum]

I'm thinking that it is pretty easy to pick the wrong name from the drop down list when making the reservation. Yeah, just call the guy with the presumption of an honest mistake and ask him to remove you. Say hello and ask how's he's been at the same time.

[Janie123]

So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).
It is very easy to use someone else’s number. I have a dozen names in my drop down list that I have no idea who they are. I believe it is a group I played with at one time and I might have modified the request thus adding them my pick list. I clean it out every so often. Could have been an accident or as you said, they needed someone with zero points to make a tee time in this season of snowbirds.

It is most likely someone in the reservation, just tell them to please not do it again or you will report them. They will get a slap on the wrist as a first time offender. Me, I would just delete my name from the reservation.

[moerman]

So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

Sometimes if a person scrolls too quickly you can accidentally click on the wrong name and ID # and not even realize it. It has happened to me a couple times — once I noticed it & corrected the name, the other time I never noticed and submitted the request.

[LonnyP]

Why not just call them and tell them to please not use your golf number?

[jarodrig]

I was hoping someone has had a similar experience and was curious what they did about it and how it all worked out.

The Tee Time office apparently isn't available on weekends, so I can't simply ask them and the various FAQ's from the Villages Golf, don't have any mention of it, that I can find.

In other words, I was hoping i could tap into the collective wisdom of the folks on TOTV, but no one seems to have had a similar experience or if they did, they're not interested in talking about it.

The tee times office IS available on weekends, both Saturday and Sunday.

I would suggest you report the infraction to them . They will take care of calling the person who made the request/reservation and give them a stern warning against future infractions.

If it happens again , the person doing it will most likely get a 3-6 month suspension of golfing privileges.

End of story …..

[Ptmcbriz]

Be polite and call the guy and say, “I was making a reservation for myself and the system wouldn’t let me because I already had a reservation. I see you used my names as a place holder. Please don’t do that again. “. Then you cancel that reservation yourself to make sure it’s done (if it’s still upcoming). If you decide to report his activity, he can be suspended for 6 months for using place holders (or some call them ghosts). They are cracking down on people that do this.

[Rzepecki]

Why not just call them and tell them to please not use your golf number?

This is the most sensible solution.

[jarodrig]

That's a little harsh Buddy.... it could be a legit mistake.... cool your jets there.

Not at all ! If it’s a “legitimate mistake “ it will be discovered by the tee times office .

And I’m sure that after receiving a call from the tee times office , that “legitimate mistake “ will not happen again ;)

[Marathon Man]

Dude- Just CALL THE GUY and let him know that you noticed a tee time for yourself... see what he says.... It may be a totally legit mistake... if so... he will say that. Now, on the other hand, if he says he "ghost" booked you then you handle that with him as you see fit.

Why are you on here asking people...???.... I am assuming you are an adult?

SMH!!!

That's a little harsh Buddy.... it could be a legit mistake.... cool your jets there.

Well said

[thelegges]

Let’s be realistic OP has Sheffler and Mickelson on his Friends drop down List…

whoever OP originally gave permission to use his ID number (or the guy stole his wallet) is no longer playing in OP caliber, and No longer wants to be associated with the group. May be the reason OP is so upset

[Captain Ruth]

Why not show up to play? Arrive at your scheduled tee time with your id? That should put an end to it.
Best answer indeed!

[SHIBUMI]

So, someone else makes a time in your name, not hard to do. What happens when they go to play and cannot present your ID Card???? If they still get to play then there in lies the rub. The policy at registration would seem to be a much bigger issue.


As it would So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

[Bay Kid]

So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

Hopefully it was a mistake. I have 3 of my friends name and numbers by my reservation names. Could be they hit your name by mistake.

[Nell57]

Why not show up to play? Arrive at your scheduled tee time with your id? That should put an end to it.

Pretty funny….thanks for the laugh

[BrianL99]

The tee times office IS available on weekends, both Saturday and Sunday.

I would suggest you report the infraction to them . They will take care of calling the person who made the request/reservation and give them a stern warning against future infractions.

If it happens again , the person doing it will most likely get a 3-6 month suspension of golfing privileges.

End of story …..

I got voice mail twice, yesterday. I'll try them again today, thank you.

[GoldenBoy]

So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

How about the direct route, cal the person and tell him to stop, and then report him with the next occurrence.

[nhtexasrn]

So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

This happened to my husband. The person who makes the reservation has to have his or her name on the reservation, so my husband was able to ascertain who made the tee time since he had only played golf with one of the people on the reservation. He discovered it when we tried to make a tee time and he had a conflict. We removed his name and he called the person involved and told him not to use his name again without his knowledge. So far, no other occurrences that we know of. A person can lose their golf privileges for doing this sort of thing.

[lawgolfer]

Doing that, simply allows such abuse to continue.

It's not acceptable for someone to affirmatively try to abuse and cheat the system and use my name to do it.

What happened is that someone, probably in a regular group, used your number as a "placeholder". This is done for two reasons, one acceptable the other not.

The acceptable reason is that the "coordinator" of the group has someone who wants to play but the coordinator doesn't have his number and is holding the spot using yours. That is acceptable if you are a member of the group and know he might use your number. If you're not in the group, tell the person to knock it off.

The unacceptable reason is when the person who used your number, whether in a group or not, wants to "block" a tee time in order to not having to play with a stranger who could book the tee time if it was open. This is a selfish practice and prevents someone from getting to play; is an inefficient use of the course; and results in a loss of revenue for the course. If you think this was the reason your number was used without your permission, you should report it to the golf office at Lake Sumter Landing.

The golf computer is relatively sophisticated. If there is a suspicion that the number of a person, whether with or without his permission, is being used to block a stranger from filling out a threesome or foursome, the golf office can quickly learn if this is a continuing practice or a one-time event. The golf office can sanction the person who misuses another person's number in this manner if it finds a history of this conduct, or caution the person if it determines it was a one-time event.

You'll be doing a favor for all of us, who regularly play, by reporting the event to the golf office.

[jimmy o]

So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).
This type of thing can happen accidentally or intentionally. If accidentally, ask your old playing partner to be more careful. If he used you as placeholder, then both you and he/she will be charged points, and you need to insist for that not to be done again. If used as placeholder too many times (3 or 4) within about 6 weeks. You will both be suspended from tee time program. This practice of placeholder makes it hard for singles or twosomes to get a tee time. Golfers do not own the course we just use them. Sometimes we end up playing with strangers, so what? Most of the ones I’ve met are pretty nice. We even get them to join our group occasionally.

[BrianL99]

What happened is that someone, probably in a regular group, used your number as a "placeholder". This is done for two reasons, one acceptable the other not.

The acceptable reason is that the "coordinator" of the group has someone who wants to play but the coordinator doesn't have his number and is holding the spot using yours. That is acceptable if you are a member of the group and know he might use your number. If you're not in the group, tell the person to knock it off.

The unacceptable reason is when the person who used your number, whether in a group or not, wants to "block" a tee time in order to not having to play with a stranger who could book the tee time if it was open. This is a selfish practice and prevents someone from getting to play; is an inefficient use of the course; and results in a loss of revenue for the course. If you think this was the reason your number was used without your permission, you should report it to the golf office at Lake Sumter Landing.

The golf computer is relatively sophisticated. If there is a suspicion that the number of a person, whether with or without his permission, is being used to block a stranger from filling out a threesome or foursome, the golf office can quickly learn if this is a continuing practice or a one-time event. The golf office can sanction the person who misuses another person's number in this manner if it finds a history of this conduct, or caution the person if it determines it was a one-time event.

You'll be doing a favor for all of us, who regularly play, by reporting the event to the golf office.

That was my first inclination and what I'm going to do. I don't care about the "points", as I only schedule my golf the night before or the day of. It's more a question of "protecting the field". It's just not right and can affect other's access to Tee Times.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Don't let the beta males get to you 1GolferGal, that is exactly how a confident and assertive man would handle the situation. However, Rousey'sMom's suggestion in Post 25 is hilarious and sounds like something I would do.

All this "calling the authorities" stuff instead of stepping up and dealing with it one's self is very cowardly, in my opinion. That is a last resort one takes after other more self-directed options are exhausted.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Happened to me ten times in a month. On the tenth time I went over to the guy's house with Bruno, my body guard. We thumped on his door, his wife answered. We tied her up to a chair in the middle of the living room and called his cell phone. We told him we were holding his wife hostage. He said go ahead and shoot her, he was gonna divorce the old bag anyway. So we let her go, and she made us some sandwiches. Then we helped her change the locks on the door, and gathered all his stuff and put it in the driveway. We were enjoying our afternoon bourbon together, the three of us, when the guy came home.

He called the cops. The wife told them the guy assaulted her and showed her the rope-burns on her wrist, and said me and Bruno were good samaritans who heard the screaming while we were driving past her house to play golf that day. Records at the golf club proved that *I* had made the reservation. The guy was arrested and charged with assault and battery and elder abuse.

Bruno ended up falling in love with the wife, and they now live together. She still has me come over for sandwiches every month.

[walterray1]

Happened to me ten times in a month. On the tenth time I went over to the guy's house with Bruno, my body guard. We thumped on his door, his wife answered. We tied her up to a chair in the middle of the living room and called his cell phone. We told him we were holding his wife hostage. He said go ahead and shoot her, he was gonna divorce the old bag anyway. So we let her go, and she made us some sandwiches. Then we helped her change the locks on the door, and gathered all his stuff and put it in the driveway. We were enjoying our afternoon bourbon together, the three of us, when the guy came home.

He called the cops. The wife told them the guy assaulted her and showed her the rope-burns on her wrist, and said me and Bruno were good samaritans who heard the screaming while we were driving past her house to play golf that day. Records at the golf club proved that *I* had made the reservation. The guy was arrested and charged with assault and battery and elder abuse.

Bruno ended up falling in love with the wife, and they now live together. She still has me come over for sandwiches every month.

I think the beat horse has just died. Maybe time to move on to other earth shattering subjects.

[Crookedbreeze]

Call them up give them a piece of that mind of yours, tell him to use the word guest in the reservation

[Pugchief]

Don't let the beta males get to you 1GolferGal, that is exactly how a confident and assertive man would handle the situation.

:boxing2: ->:1rotfl:

[jjombrello]

Boy, you totally missed the point of the guy telling you what to do. Go back and re-read it.
1. Talk to the perpetrator
2. Ask him if he did it.
3. Tell him not to do it again, if he admits it.
4. If he does it again, you can call the tee time office and report it.
5. In addition, you can talk to the people at the golf course where this happened as they can track this and confront the perpetrator.

[SHIBUMI]

The 2 pm tee time at Southern Oaks is the most coveted. Pay for 9 holes can play till dark, usually 18.

Much sought after, assume enhanced members have priority. How can 2 guests without the maker of the tee time, get that time????

And, how do they check-in without the maker of the tee time???? Why would the registration desk allow this to happen.

thanks,

So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).