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Michael G.
03-03-2025, 02:44 PM
Bird flue apparently is causing a shortage of eggs and prices are on the raise.

🐓One has to ask: "How does that effect the butchered chicken meat from the hens laying those infected eggs??" 🤢 🐤🐥🐣

If so, why isn't there a shortage of chickens and have the prices gone up?

biggamefish1
03-03-2025, 02:59 PM
The butchered meat from hens killed to prevent the spread of bird flu is not sold to the public, for sure.

Stu from NYC
03-03-2025, 03:12 PM
Trying to talk my wife into buying some baby chicks and raise them to become egg layers.

Should be able to clean up as long as my wife agrees to do the cleaning.

VAtoFLA
03-03-2025, 03:22 PM
Laying hens and Broiler hens are two different industries. Broilers have a much shorter life cycle and are not bred in the same places as laying hens. Laying hens that reach the end of their ability to lay eggs profitably are butchered, but not for the meat you and I eat. Generally for feed and pet food

Rainger99
03-03-2025, 03:34 PM
Everything you want to know about eggs and chickens!


Just a moment... (https://www.axios.com/2025/02/08/bird-flu-eggs-chickens)

rustyp
03-03-2025, 03:50 PM
General Tso's chicken will be a delicacy tomorrow.

asianthree
03-03-2025, 04:02 PM
Not a problem, one does not eat the hen that lays the egg, only the chicken that crosses the road, in about 8 weeks.

The only time a hen became Sunday dinner was they were so mean, you killed them to save yourself.

Susan1717
03-04-2025, 04:39 AM
That is a good question! Regardless if a hen is raised for eggs or its meat, how can there be a shortage and disease of one and not the other?! And why are ducks and other birds not affected?

SoCalGal
03-04-2025, 04:44 AM
I asked my smartest friend, Grok3. Here's what it said.

Bird flu, particularly the highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) strain H5N1, has indeed disrupted egg supplies in the U.S., leading to shortages and rising prices. However, its impact on butchered chicken meat availability and prices is less pronounced, and there’s a straightforward explanation for this rooted in how the poultry industry operates.

The key distinction lies in the two separate segments of the poultry industry: egg-laying hens (layers) and chickens raised for meat (broilers). These are different birds, bred and managed for distinct purposes. Layers are older hens optimized to produce eggs over a longer lifespan, typically starting at 18-20 weeks and remaining productive for a year or more. Broilers, on the other hand, are younger chickens raised specifically for meat, reaching slaughter weight in just 6-8 weeks. When bird flu strikes, it often hits layer flocks hardest because their longer lifecycles and dense housing in egg production facilities make them more vulnerable to outbreaks. Since 2022, over 157 million birds have been affected in the U.S., with a significant portion being egg-laying hens—over 20 million were culled in the last quarter of 2024 alone. This culling drastically reduces egg supply, driving up prices.

But what happens to the meat from these culled laying hens? Generally, they don’t enter the consumer meat market in large quantities. Laying hens are not bred for meat production; their bodies are leaner and less muscular than broilers, making them less desirable for butchering. When flocks test positive for bird flu, U.S. regulations require rapid culling—often within 24 hours—to contain the virus. The carcasses are typically disposed of through methods like composting, incineration, or burial, not processed for human consumption. Even if some were butchered, the volume would be negligible compared to the broiler industry, which raises about 9.4 billion chickens annually for meat. Moreover, the USDA’s Food Safety and Inspection Service ensures that sick or infected birds don’t enter the food supply, and cooking poultry to 165°F kills the virus anyway. Therefore, there's no significant influx of “infected egg hen meat” affecting the chicken meat market.

Why isn’t there a shortage of chicken meat then? Broiler production has been far less impacted by bird flu. USDA data shows that since February 2022, less than 0.0005% of U.S. broiler production has been affected. Broilers’ shorter growth cycle means farmers can replace culled flocks quickly—within weeks—compared to the months it takes to raise new layers and restore egg production. Plus, the industry maintains substantial reserves of frozen chicken in warehouses nationwide, buffering against supply shocks. This resilience explains why chicken meat shortages haven’t materialized despite the bird flu crisis.

As for prices, chicken meat costs have remained relatively stable compared to eggs. Egg prices soared from $2.17 per dozen in January 2022 to over $4 by late 2024—a 135%+ increase—due to the direct loss of layers. Chicken meat prices, however, haven’t seen a comparable spike. Broiler supply disruptions have been minimal, and factors like feed costs, labor, and inflation have a bigger influence on meat prices than bird flu does. Studies from Poultry Science analyzing 2005-2023 data show that while poultry prices (including chicken meat) rise during outbreaks, the effect is less severe and shorter-lived for meat than for eggs. The frozen stockpile and rapid broiler replacement cycle keep supply steady, preventing the scarcity-driven price surge seen with eggs.

To summarize, the bird flu isn’t causing a chicken meat shortage or significant price hikes because broilers are a separate, less-affected population with a faster recovery time and a robust supply chain. The culled laying hens don’t meaningfully contribute to the meat market, and strict safety measures ensure infected birds stay out of your grocery store. You’re not eating “infected egg hen meat”—you’re eating broilers, and there’s still plenty of them to go around.

Dahabs
03-04-2025, 04:46 AM
Bird flue apparently is causing a shortage of eggs and prices are on the raise.

🐓One has to ask: "How does that effect the butchered chicken meat from the hens laying those infected eggs??" 🤢 🐤🐥🐣

If so, why isn't there a shortage of chickens and have the prices gone up?

Apparently?

jimkerr
03-04-2025, 05:13 AM
People assume they are the same chickens but they’re not.

Katheelee
03-04-2025, 06:47 AM
Bird flue apparently is causing a shortage of eggs and prices are on the raise.

🐓One has to ask: "How does that effect the butchered chicken meat from the hens laying those infected eggs??" 🤢 🐤🐥🐣

If so, why isn't there a shortage of chickens and have the prices gone up?

I live in the same town as Rose Acres. They just had to unalive millions of their egg laying chickens. These chickens were hauled by trucks to a property and were buried in layers with dirt over each layer.
Egg laying chickens are fed a disgusting special diet which makes them unsuitable for humans to eat. They are different birds than the chickens we eat.

MandoMan
03-04-2025, 06:57 AM
I asked my smartest friend, Grok3. Here's what it said.

Bird flu, particularly the highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) strain H5N1, has indeed disrupted egg supplies in the U.S., leading to shortages and rising prices. However, its impact on butchered chicken meat availability and prices is less pronounced, and there’s a straightforward explanation for this rooted in how the poultry industry operates.

The key distinction lies in the two separate segments of the poultry industry: egg-laying hens (layers) and chickens raised for meat (broilers). These are different birds, bred and managed for distinct purposes. Layers are older hens optimized to produce eggs over a longer lifespan, typically starting at 18-20 weeks and remaining productive for a year or more. Broilers, on the other hand, are younger chickens raised specifically for meat, reaching slaughter weight in just 6-8 weeks. When bird flu strikes, it often hits layer flocks hardest because their longer lifecycles and dense housing in egg production facilities make them more vulnerable to outbreaks. Since 2022, over 157 million birds have been affected in the U.S., with a significant portion being egg-laying hens—over 20 million were culled in the last quarter of 2024 alone. This culling drastically reduces egg supply, driving up prices.

But what happens to the meat from these culled laying hens? Generally, they don’t enter the consumer meat market in large quantities. Laying hens are not bred for meat production; their bodies are leaner and less muscular than broilers, making them less desirable for butchering. When flocks test positive for bird flu, U.S. regulations require rapid culling—often within 24 hours—to contain the virus. The carcasses are typically disposed of through methods like composting, incineration, or burial, not processed for human consumption. Even if some were butchered, the volume would be negligible compared to the broiler industry, which raises about 9.4 billion chickens annually for meat. Moreover, the USDA’s Food Safety and Inspection Service ensures that sick or infected birds don’t enter the food supply, and cooking poultry to 165°F kills the virus anyway. Therefore, there's no significant influx of “infected egg hen meat” affecting the chicken meat market.

Why isn’t there a shortage of chicken meat then? Broiler production has been far less impacted by bird flu. USDA data shows that since February 2022, less than 0.0005% of U.S. broiler production has been affected. Broilers’ shorter growth cycle means farmers can replace culled flocks quickly—within weeks—compared to the months it takes to raise new layers and restore egg production. Plus, the industry maintains substantial reserves of frozen chicken in warehouses nationwide, buffering against supply shocks. This resilience explains why chicken meat shortages haven’t materialized despite the bird flu crisis.

As for prices, chicken meat costs have remained relatively stable compared to eggs. Egg prices soared from $2.17 per dozen in January 2022 to over $4 by late 2024—a 135%+ increase—due to the direct loss of layers. Chicken meat prices, however, haven’t seen a comparable spike. Broiler supply disruptions have been minimal, and factors like feed costs, labor, and inflation have a bigger influence on meat prices than bird flu does. Studies from Poultry Science analyzing 2005-2023 data show that while poultry prices (including chicken meat) rise during outbreaks, the effect is less severe and shorter-lived for meat than for eggs. The frozen stockpile and rapid broiler replacement cycle keep supply steady, preventing the scarcity-driven price surge seen with eggs.

To summarize, the bird flu isn’t causing a chicken meat shortage or significant price hikes because broilers are a separate, less-affected population with a faster recovery time and a robust supply chain. The culled laying hens don’t meaningfully contribute to the meat market, and strict safety measures ensure infected birds stay out of your grocery store. You’re not eating “infected egg hen meat”—you’re eating broilers, and there’s still plenty of them to go around.

But don’t these broiler chickens also come from over five billion eggs? Perhaps the prices there will eventually go up, too. Or perhaps a lot of this is the gg distribution industry selling eggs for whatever the market will bear and keeping the profits. A culled flock of chickens affects the company owning that flock, but the company carries insurance for that. Just part of the cost of doing business. But that shouldn’t raise the costs of unaffected flocks. So the price is going up because the supply has gone down while the demand has remained the same. So they raise prices because they can get away with it because there is a convenient illness to blame.

crash
03-04-2025, 07:09 AM
Bird flue apparently is causing a shortage of eggs and prices are on the raise.

🐓One has to ask: "How does that effect the butchered chicken meat from the hens laying those infected eggs??" 🤢 🐤🐥🐣

If so, why isn't there a shortage of chickens and have the prices gone up?

We don’t eat egg laying chickens those are different birds. It takes 6-8 weeks to raise a chicken to its slaughtering weight which is around 3 lbs. thus no time to catch the flu.

Bill14564
03-04-2025, 07:15 AM
We don’t eat egg laying chickens those are different birds. It takes 2 years or less to raise a chicken to it’s slaughtering weight which is around 3 lbs.

It takes less that 2 MONTHS to raise a chicken to its slaughtering weight.

crash
03-04-2025, 07:17 AM
I live in the same town as Rose Acres. They just had to unalive millions of their egg laying chickens. These chickens were hauled by trucks to a property and were buried in layers with dirt over each layer.
Egg laying chickens are fed a disgusting special diet which makes them unsuitable for humans to eat. They are different birds than the chickens we eat.

It is not what the egg laying chickens eat that we don’t eat them but their age they can lay for 10 years and are tough. These would be stewing chickens in most countries slow cook to tenderize can you say coc ay vin.

Places like Kentucky fried chicken spec their chickens to be 2.25-2.75 lbs because they buy by the pound and sell by the piece. Maybe you have noticed the small pieces.

roscoguy
03-04-2025, 07:29 AM
I asked my smartest friend, Grok3. Here's what it said.

Egg prices soared from $2.17 per dozen in January 2022 to over $4 by late 2024—a 135%+ increase—due to the direct loss of layers.

Grok3 sure has a lot of interesting info, but isn't great at math. A 135%+ percent increase above $2.17 would be over $5, not $4.

TJ SoBos
03-04-2025, 07:45 AM
Bought a dozen extra large at Summerfield Walmart, yesterday......$6.12 !!!

Bill14564
03-04-2025, 07:47 AM
Grok3 sure has a lot of interesting info, but isn't great at math. A 135%+ percent increase above $2.17 would be over $5, not $4.

Well, over $5 *is* over $4.

AI doesn't really do math, it just strings together words that sound correct and seem to answer the question. The three facts ($2.17, 135%+, over $4) are individually correct and even the sentence combining all three is technically correct but there was no math involved.

G.R.I.T.S.
03-04-2025, 07:57 AM
I’ve asked the same thing. Why aren’t roosters getting avian flu? 🧐

coconutmama
03-04-2025, 08:02 AM
That is a good question! Regardless if a hen is raised for eggs or its meat, how can there be a shortage and disease of one and not the other?! And why are ducks and other birds not affected?

They are. Some may “just” be carriers of the disease.

Bird flu is also not only in the U.S., which makes me wonder how much eggs would cost if imported.

In 2022 when I was in London, the ravens were kept in their pens with tarps over the tops, in an effort to keep wild bird feces from infecting the flock

La lamy
03-04-2025, 08:06 AM
Good question and good explanations. Thanks!

Rickmartin
03-04-2025, 08:07 AM
Actually bird flu eggs are safe to eat if cooked. About the only way you would contract bird flu from an infected bird is if it flew in your mouth or you ingested an infected birds droppings.

Bill14564
03-04-2025, 08:15 AM
I’ve asked the same thing. Why aren’t roosters getting avian flu? 🧐

What makes you think they are not?

If you are asking why the price of chicken hasn't gone up, that answer can be found a few times in the previous posts.

GATORBILL66
03-04-2025, 08:20 AM
Biden ordered billions of chickens to be killed!

Bill14564
03-04-2025, 08:25 AM
Biden ordered billions of chickens to be killed!

I heard it was TRILLIONS!!

airstreamingypsy
03-04-2025, 08:26 AM
That is a good question! Regardless if a hen is raised for eggs or its meat, how can there be a shortage and disease of one and not the other?! And why are ducks and other birds not affected?

One duck farm on Long Island, had to unalive 100,000 plus ducks. They are affected.

LonnyP
03-04-2025, 08:36 AM
But the prices were gonna go down day #1?

Stu from NYC
03-04-2025, 08:57 AM
But the prices were gonna go down day #1?

When the supply increases, not going to happen in a day will it.

Pballer
03-04-2025, 09:46 AM
The government plans to address the problem by increasing imports of eggs from foreign countries. Our largest foreign source of eggs is Canada. I'm sure that Canada is eager to bend over backwards to accommodate us.

RRGuyNJ
03-04-2025, 09:50 AM
I asked my smartest friend, Grok3. Here's what it said.

Bird flu, particularly the highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) strain H5N1, has indeed disrupted egg supplies in the U.S., leading to shortages and rising prices. However, its impact on butchered chicken meat availability and prices is less pronounced, and there’s a straightforward explanation for this rooted in how the poultry industry operates.

The key distinction lies in the two separate segments of the poultry industry: egg-laying hens (layers) and chickens raised for meat (broilers). These are different birds, bred and managed for distinct purposes. Layers are older hens optimized to produce eggs over a longer lifespan, typically starting at 18-20 weeks and remaining productive for a year or more. Broilers, on the other hand, are younger chickens raised specifically for meat, reaching slaughter weight in just 6-8 weeks. When bird flu strikes, it often hits layer flocks hardest because their longer lifecycles and dense housing in egg production facilities make them more vulnerable to outbreaks. Since 2022, over 157 million birds have been affected in the U.S., with a significant portion being egg-laying hens—over 20 million were culled in the last quarter of 2024 alone. This culling drastically reduces egg supply, driving up prices.

But what happens to the meat from these culled laying hens? Generally, they don’t enter the consumer meat market in large quantities. Laying hens are not bred for meat production; their bodies are leaner and less muscular than broilers, making them less desirable for butchering. When flocks test positive for bird flu, U.S. regulations require rapid culling—often within 24 hours—to contain the virus. The carcasses are typically disposed of through methods like composting, incineration, or burial, not processed for human consumption. Even if some were butchered, the volume would be negligible compared to the broiler industry, which raises about 9.4 billion chickens annually for meat. Moreover, the USDA’s Food Safety and Inspection Service ensures that sick or infected birds don’t enter the food supply, and cooking poultry to 165°F kills the virus anyway. Therefore, there's no significant influx of “infected egg hen meat” affecting the chicken meat market.

Why isn’t there a shortage of chicken meat then? Broiler production has been far less impacted by bird flu. USDA data shows that since February 2022, less than 0.0005% of U.S. broiler production has been affected. Broilers’ shorter growth cycle means farmers can replace culled flocks quickly—within weeks—compared to the months it takes to raise new layers and restore egg production. Plus, the industry maintains substantial reserves of frozen chicken in warehouses nationwide, buffering against supply shocks. This resilience explains why chicken meat shortages haven’t materialized despite the bird flu crisis.

As for prices, chicken meat costs have remained relatively stable compared to eggs. Egg prices soared from $2.17 per dozen in January 2022 to over $4 by late 2024—a 135%+ increase—due to the direct loss of layers. Chicken meat prices, however, haven’t seen a comparable spike. Broiler supply disruptions have been minimal, and factors like feed costs, labor, and inflation have a bigger influence on meat prices than bird flu does. Studies from Poultry Science analyzing 2005-2023 data show that while poultry prices (including chicken meat) rise during outbreaks, the effect is less severe and shorter-lived for meat than for eggs. The frozen stockpile and rapid broiler replacement cycle keep supply steady, preventing the scarcity-driven price surge seen with eggs.

To summarize, the bird flu isn’t causing a chicken meat shortage or significant price hikes because broilers are a separate, less-affected population with a faster recovery time and a robust supply chain. The culled laying hens don’t meaningfully contribute to the meat market, and strict safety measures ensure infected birds stay out of your grocery store. You’re not eating “infected egg hen meat”—you’re eating broilers, and there’s still plenty of them to go around.

Prices of chicken breast in NC has almost doubled since this whole thing started. Currently $3.69 per lb vs $1.99 avg last year. Chicken breast from Sams Club is $2.79. We're not that desperate, yet. The last batch we got from there was terrible. I have a feeling they are steroid rich birds.

Lottoguy
03-04-2025, 09:50 AM
As of today 3/4/25 egg prices will be the least of your worries.

Topspinmo
03-04-2025, 09:54 AM
Long life question which came first the chicken or egg? Less laying chickens results in less eggs. I wills be surprised if bird flu not man made failure and another plague for mankind. Seems like biological/chemical warfare does more harm when there no wars?

Topspinmo
03-04-2025, 09:56 AM
As of today 3/4/25 egg prices will be the least of your worries.

Why? Have to go to doctor? Or is meteor about to hit?

TheWatcher
03-04-2025, 10:09 AM
That is a good question! Regardless if a hen is raised for eggs or its meat, how can there be a shortage and disease of one and not the other?!

The Broiler chickens have shorter life-span to market than the Layer chickens. So less exposure time in completely different facilities.

The Broilers are housed in what is essentually a P3 Lab like facility (they call it 'Biosecurity'). Workers 'scrub' in (shower and change clothes)and wear containment outerwear. May be required to do the same leaving. HEPA filtration is used. A poultry farm near us up north has their access roads marked and blocked with cones to prevent unauthorized access. Genetics plays a part.

And why are ducks and other birds not affected?

But, they are. And they are spreading it, too. The problem here is how the disease(s) spreads and transmission to other nonavian species. For example, so far there are isolated cases reported from cows (positive virus testing of milk). The milk before pasturization has infected human dairy farm workers by direct contact as conjunctivitis. The virus does not affect other species the same. But the virus has not acquired the ability for widespread infectivity in other species. Read that as higher morbidity and mortality.

Bill14564
03-04-2025, 10:12 AM
Prices of chicken breast in NC has almost doubled since this whole thing started. Currently $3.69 per lb vs $1.99 avg last year. Chicken breast from Sams Club is $2.79. We're not that desperate, yet. The last batch we got from there was terrible. I have a feeling they are steroid rich birds.

Highly questionable number for last year when the average price in the US was around $4/lb.

UNLESS, NC is a major producer of chickens and production was affected by the hurricane last year. That might have eliminated an artificially-low price.

jimjamuser
03-04-2025, 12:15 PM
That is a good question! Regardless if a hen is raised for eggs or its meat, how can there be a shortage and disease of one and not the other?! And why are ducks and other birds not affected?
Wild birds especially aquatic birds like storks, geese, and duck ARE infected with bird flu. So, maybe people should not feed them.

fdpaq0580
03-04-2025, 12:32 PM
Long life question which came first the chicken or egg? Less laying chickens results in less eggs. I wills be surprised if bird flu not man made failure and another plague for mankind. Seems like biological/chemical warfare does more harm when there no wars?

Egg came first! Without a doubt!

fdpaq0580
03-04-2025, 12:37 PM
I heard it was TRILLIONS!!

He was tired of hearing all the clucking. Turned out it was just tinnitus. 😒

fdpaq0580
03-04-2025, 12:43 PM
The government plans to address the problem by increasing imports of eggs from foreign countries. Our largest foreign source of eggs is Canada. I'm sure that Canada is eager to bend over backwards to accommodate us.

Well, they certainly don't want to bend over foreword!!

fdpaq0580
03-04-2025, 12:47 PM
Why? Have to go to doctor? Or is meteor about to hit?

All of the above and more. 😞

davem4616
03-04-2025, 01:26 PM
Trying to talk my wife into buying some baby chicks and raise them to become egg layers.

Should be able to clean up as long as my wife agrees to do the cleaning.

Stu, I'd love to hear the audio of the conversation you had with her my friend ... lol

LianneMigiano
03-04-2025, 02:26 PM
Not a problem, one does not eat the hen that lays the egg, only the chicken that crosses the road, in about 8 weeks.

The only time a hen became Sunday dinner was they were so mean, you killed them to save yourself.

Why is it "not a problem" when the bird flu can affect your "chicken that crosses the road, in about 8 weeks" too? The bird flu isn't selectively singling out "egg-laying" chickens - so why hasn't the price of chicken meat increased just as eggs have? I wonder if this soaring egg price is either caused by some kind of media hype or by greedy farmers. I've never considered our farmers as a greedy bunch - so.....

Bill14564
03-04-2025, 02:30 PM
Why is it "not a problem" when the bird flu can affect your "chicken that crosses the road, in about 8 weeks" too? The bird flu isn't selectively singling out "egg-laying" chickens - so why hasn't the price of chicken meat increased just as eggs have? I wonder if this soaring egg price is either caused by some kind of media hype or by greedy farmers. I've never considered our farmers as a greedy bunch - so.....

Because, as mentioned in several previous posts, broilers (the "chicken that crosses the road") is harvested at something like 45 days (less than 8 weeks).

But yes, it's all media hype. The price in the store is not really $6+, it's really about $2.79, but the media hype has you believing the eggs are more expensive. The media hype is even so good that the electronic cash registers believe the prices is much higher than it really is!

Stu from NYC
03-04-2025, 03:05 PM
Stu, I'd love to hear the audio of the conversation you had with her my friend ... lol

Good to hear from you. We ought to get together.

Rodneysblue
03-04-2025, 03:46 PM
Just got eggs at BJ’s for $4.50 a dozen. The prices are on the way down after the kill of from last year.

Topspinmo
03-04-2025, 03:48 PM
I’ve asked the same thing. Why aren’t roosters getting avian flu? 🧐

They probably are but who cares other than fight farms? :oops:

Stu from NYC
03-04-2025, 04:57 PM
They probably are but who cares other than fight farms? :oops:

Is there such a thing?

fdpaq0580
03-04-2025, 05:11 PM
Is there such a thing?

Yes. Or so I have been told. 😒

asianthree
03-04-2025, 05:24 PM
They probably are but who cares other than fight farms? :oops:

Is there such a thing?

Yes. Or so I have been told. 😒

Roosters are mean all on their own. Have more than a few serious wound marks on my arms and legs. I was just walking through the yard. I swear roosters are stealthy, and live to hide and attack. As kids we were more afraid of roosters attacking, then snakes.

Put two fully adult roosters anywhere near each other and one isn’t going to walk away.

CFrance
03-04-2025, 07:57 PM
Roosters are mean all on their own. Have more than a few serious wound marks on my arms and legs. I was just walking through the yard. I swear roosters are stealthy, and live to hide and attack. As kids we were more afraid of roosters attacking, then snakes.

Put two fully adult roosters anywhere near each other and one isn’t going to walk away.
Around 1947, my parents decided to raise chickens in the garage of our country home (think starter home). So the story goes (I wasn't born yet) neither one of them could go into the garage to collect the eggs without being attacked by the rooster. My father had to take a broom with him. Then he couldn't bring himself to kill a chicken.

Needless to say, it was a failed experiment. I don't think they knew what they were doing, and supposedly some farmer in the area ended up with free chickens and a rooster.

Followed closely by the dog eating a pound of black-market butter. I still wasn't there, so it's all hearsay.

RoadToad
03-05-2025, 04:53 AM
If there were no roosters, chickens would cease to exist.

roscoguy
03-05-2025, 06:03 AM
Well, over $5 *is* over $4.

AI doesn't really do math, it just strings together words that sound correct and seem to answer the question. The three facts ($2.17, 135%+, over $4) are individually correct and even the sentence combining all three is technically correct but there was no math involved.

Well, true enough I suppose, but then saying 'A 135%+ percent increase above $2.17 would be over $2.18' would also be technically correct. And saying that there is an X% increase IS math.

Cuervo
03-05-2025, 06:04 AM
Besides the bird flu raising prices there is panic buying, it's similar to the hoarders of toilet paper during the pandemic.
The world is not going to collapse if eggs are not part of our diet.
I'm sure mankind will find alternatives to eggs to consume if need be.
I'm going to make myself a ham sandwich.

asianthree
03-05-2025, 06:07 AM
Around 1947, my parents decided to raise chickens in the garage of our country home (think starter home). So the story goes (I wasn't born yet) neither one of them could go into the garage to collect the eggs without being attacked by the rooster. My father had to take a broom with him. Then he couldn't bring himself to kill a chicken.

Needless to say, it was a failed experiment. I don't think they knew what they were doing, and supposedly some farmer in the area ended up with free chickens and a rooster.

Followed closely by the dog eating a pound of black-market butter. I still wasn't there, so it's all hearsay.

I have never met a nice rooster, so it’s a true story. Until my 30s, my Grandparents, had a garden that was 2 acres of vegetables, 2 acres of fruit, hen house of 20, and a giant rooster.

My granny carried a hatchet with her every morning to gather the eggs. For some reason the rooster never attacked her. But everyone else was fair game.

roscoguy
03-05-2025, 06:25 AM
Biden ordered billions of chickens to be killed!

I heard it was TRILLIONS!!

And I heard that he personally culled all those chickens! No wonder the guy looked so tired the last couple years... :laugh:

J1ceasar
03-05-2025, 06:46 AM
Generally there are two different types of farmers one that raises chickens for meat, the other one that raises chicken for eggs so that there are different farms and they are separated..

As to why they don't get sick, same reason you can spray your grass with some weed killers and they'll only kill the weeds.



That is a good question! Regardless if a hen is raised for eggs or its meat, how can there be a shortage and disease of one and not the other?! And why are ducks and other birds not affected?

paulajr
03-05-2025, 09:17 AM
Two different types of chicken!!!!



Bird flue apparently is causing a shortage of eggs and prices are on the raise.

🐓One has to ask: "How does that effect the butchered chicken meat from the hens laying those infected eggs??" 🤢 🐤🐥🐣

If so, why isn't there a shortage of chickens and have the prices gone up?

pcntech
03-05-2025, 10:01 AM
SoCalGal gave a very good in depth answer to the layers vs boilers question. In April 2024, 8.93 million chicken eggs were produced. If 20 million layers are culled, that is a significant impact on supply. Think of everything that uses eggs. Us at home, restaurants, bakers, factories producing bread, pancakes and waffles. ice cream, and on an on. We use a lot of eggs in the U.S. every day. I went to Wolfy's in Leesburg and they are charging a .50 cent surcharge per egg. So is Dennys and Waffle House.

fdpaq0580
03-05-2025, 10:46 AM
Besides the bird flu raising prices there is panic buying, it's similar to the hoarders of toilet paper during the pandemic.
The world is not going to collapse if eggs are not part of our diet.
I'm sure mankind will find alternatives to eggs to consume if need be.
I'm going to make myself a ham sandwich.

Biscuits and sausage gravy.

fdpaq0580
03-05-2025, 10:55 AM
Generally there are two different types of farmers one that raises chickens for meat, the other one that raises chicken for eggs so that there are different farms and they are separated..

As to why they don't get sick, same reason you can spray your grass with some weed killers and they'll only kill the weeds.





So, what do we spray on the chickens? 🤔😯

DAVES
03-05-2025, 01:26 PM
Trying to talk my wife into buying some baby chicks and raise them to become egg layers.

Should be able to clean up as long as my wife agrees to do the cleaning.

Reality, you can buy sexed chicks at Rural King. Only female chickens lay eggs. A male chicken,rooster, is the one that crows and it will impregnate the female chickens. A fertilized egg has an embryo. What is called a blood spot. You, we do not eat those. Eggs with two yolks are fairly common. What we buy. A dozen all the same size and type is not normal.

Far as I know none of the villages allow you to keep chickens o any live stock.

asianthree
03-05-2025, 02:32 PM
Reality, you can buy sexed chicks at Rural King. Only female chickens lay eggs. A male chicken,rooster, is the one that crows and it will impregnate the female chickens. A fertilized egg has an embryo. What is called a blood spot. You, we do not eat those. Eggs with two yolks are fairly common. What we buy. A dozen all the same size and type is not normal.

Far as I know none of the villages allow you to keep chickens o any live stock.

Multiple villages bordering areas that have chickens. Two of our homes we can hear the rooster crowing every morning. Bonus, get on their list to buy eggs, pastel blue and green shells work well outside of Easter. Some do find the very Orange yolk off putting

Stu from NYC
03-05-2025, 04:52 PM
Didn’t anyone notice that only egg laying birds ( chickens) come down with Bird Flu and at Election Time !!!!

So we can blame females for this

Stu from NYC
03-05-2025, 04:53 PM
Reality, you can buy sexed chicks at Rural King. Only female chickens lay eggs. A male chicken,rooster, is the one that crows and it will impregnate the female chickens. A fertilized egg has an embryo. What is called a blood spot. You, we do not eat those. Eggs with two yolks are fairly common. What we buy. A dozen all the same size and type is not normal.

Far as I know none of the villages allow you to keep chickens o any live stock.

OK we will hide the coop in the back and give our neighbors a 25% discount. Problem solved

OrangeBlossomBaby
03-05-2025, 04:55 PM
Didn’t anyone notice that only egg laying birds ( chickens) come down with Bird Flu and at Election Time !!!!

1. ALL birds lay eggs. It's one of the things that makes them birds.
2. Hens kept in insanely close quarters under horrible unsanitary conditions and forced to endure having their beaks cut off (so they can't peck each other), are more likely to get sick than hens that are raised in healthy environments. If ONE bird gets sick in a coop of 10,000 hens, then the entire coop is compromised.

OrangeBlossomBaby
03-05-2025, 04:59 PM
SoCalGal gave a very good in depth answer to the layers vs boilers question. In April 2024, 8.93 million chicken eggs were produced. If 20 million layers are culled, that is a significant impact on supply. Think of everything that uses eggs. Us at home, restaurants, bakers, factories producing bread, pancakes and waffles. ice cream, and on an on. We use a lot of eggs in the U.S. every day. I went to Wolfy's in Leesburg and they are charging a .50 cent surcharge per egg. So is Dennys and Waffle House.

There's no egg in ice cream. Contrary to some twisted, but popular belief, eggs are not dairy. They are poultry.

Bill14564
03-05-2025, 05:12 PM
There's no egg in ice cream. Contrary to some twisted, but popular belief, eggs are not dairy. They are poultry.

Haagen Dazs mentions eggs in their ingredient list

Bassdeer
03-05-2025, 05:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lBPidnu.jpeg

fdpaq0580
03-05-2025, 06:58 PM
Haagen Dazs mentions eggs in their ingredient list

Does that mean it's not ice-cream? Maybe it's really frozen custard? Or is it a frozen embryo smoothy?

MorTech
03-06-2025, 12:27 PM
HeHe.........

https://www.ketodirty.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/egg-meme-2023-844x1024.jpeg.webp