Out of place?

[escapequeen]

Someone is building a huge home in Silver Lake/OBG. It is big and looks totally out of place in that area. Does anyone know if this is going to be the coming thing on the historical side? or are these folks just looking to be different? It just doesn't fit. JMHO :popcorn:

[Mudder]

I have seen that and cannot imagine that it's a house. But what else could it be? Can't believe if it is a house that any board would have oked it.

[graciegirl]

Did they remove an older home?

[Russ_Boston]

Don't know about the board approval but I predict that many years from now most of the historic side will be resold with new homes in place. Makes complete economic sense.

[escapequeen]

My husband and I said the same thing Mudder. It doesn't look like a house, it's just so big, it looks like a grocery store. Maybe it will look better when it gets finished. And yes, an older home was removed and this is what is going in it's place.
Hope they don't put anything near us anytime soon that looks like that, lol!

[escapequeen]

Russ, I hope it is many years down the road if it does happen. We like it the way it is.

[Russ_Boston]

Russ, I hope it is many years down the road if it does happen. We like it the way it is.

I hear and sympathize with you but as TV builds out completely the Historic side has lots to offer the people who would do a tear down.

[jblum8156]

Someone is building a huge home in Silver Lake/OBG. It is big and looks totally out of place in that area. Does anyone know if this is going to be the coming thing on the historical side? or are these folks just looking to be different? It just doesn't fit. JMHO :popcorn:

But won't that ruin the value of the surrounding smaller older houses?

[eremite06]

But won't that ruin the value of the surrounding smaller older houses?

I was a real estate appraiser in another life. Actually this new house sounds like an "overimprovement." This will not diminish the values in the neighborhood, but will negatively affect the value of the overimprovement.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

What street is this on?

Thanks -

Bill

[graciegirl]

What street is this on?

Thanks -

Bill

I'd like to see it.

[escapequeen]

2nd house from the corner of Paradise and Wales Drive. Just inside the OBG gate.

[bkcunningham1]

It does seem to drawf the homes on both sides. While I "oohed" and "aahhed" and said, "can we do that?" He said don't look how tall it is. Quit looking up; look how wide and how far back it goes. It isn't that big, according to my husband.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

2nd house from the corner of Paradise and Wales Drive. Just inside the OBG gate.

Thanks!!

Bill

[billethkid]

manufactured home and replace it with a frame or block home.

btk

[Pturner]

manufactured home and replace it with a frame or block home.

btk

Are there deed restrictions? Do the rebuilds go through Architectural Review?

[Dirigo]

I was a real estate appraiser in another life. Actually this new house sounds like an "overimprovement." This will not diminish the values in the neighborhood, but will negatively affect the value of the overimprovement.

I saw the house in question a couple of weeks ago when we went to a meeting at Paradise. I thought "What the heck is that?"

I am a real estate appraiser in my current life and eremite06 is spot on. This home is over-built for the neighborhood and its value will be diminshed, in the short term, by the surrounding properties.

However...there's always a however...the natural life-cycle of neighborhoods is on-going in this situation. The razing of existing older structures that are not up to current market standards, and the buidling of new dwellings to market standard happens everywhere there is an active market.

As it becomes less expensive to buy an older home just for the land and to build a new home on that land than to buy in a new home the newer sections of TV, more and more you will see the neighborhood change from primarily older homes with a sprinkling of newer homes, to primarily newer homes with a sprinkling of older homes.

Change is the one constant in life. Everything is dynamic...even neighborhoods. And the more active the market, the more profound and rapid the change.

[downeaster]

Are there deed restrictions? Does the rebuilds go through Architectural Review?

I expect there are deed restrictions and possibly Architectural Review. I also think the builder has complied with all that is needed before starting a project of this magnitude.

[barb1191]

Gee, wouldn't it be wonderful if they were building on that site another health club with an indoor pool!!!??? Dream on McDuff, huh? :) :clap2: :ohdear:

[BritParrothead]

We were told, by our realtor, 2 years ago that we woukd be able to do this, if we bought on the historic side.
We thought about the lovely views down the hill being spoiled though, and decided no.

[emerson]

The house is on Paradise. I have talked to the owners and it is a long term project.

[graciegirl]

The house is on Paradise. I have talked to the owners and it is a long term project.

:welcome:Hi there Emerson and welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy adding to our discussions and reading our thoughts.

I have to ask what you mean by a "long term project"?' Do you mean that it is going to take a long time to finish, or they are having work done slowly as they can pay, or when it is finished it is going to be quite the showplace?

[redwitch]

Drove by there yesterday and it looked like the homeowners were doing a lot of the work themselves.

I've always thought buying on the historical side while a snowbird or snowflake is a good idea. You can get a cheap place to stay until you're ready to retire. Once you're in TV permanently, you can either sell your nice, large lot or tear down the manufactured home and build pretty much to your own taste if you so desire. (The deed restrictions are much lesss restrictive on the historic side.)

While this home is over-built for now, I think it will ultimately fit right in. I did drive by another house near Aloha Way (can't remember exactly where, sorry) a few months ago that was being built. It looked very much like the designers/ranches south of 466 -- stucco and all.

[2newyorkers]

When we were on the historic side they were tearing down another manufactured home and there was a couple of empty lots. I wonder if more constructed homes are going up on those lots.

[escapequeen]

We bought a year ago on the "historical side" and are happy we did. We have a nice home that we frequent every 2 months or so and are very comfortable there. We have no desire to live on the other side of 441 as we have all our conveniences here and a new golf cart if we feel we need to drive to the other side.
Life is good no matter where we are at any given time. :wine:

[escapequeen]

And we are retired. My husband retired from the military in 2003, we are debt free and the sky is the limit.

[2 Oldcrabs]

If you use 2 lots to build a home, do you pay double the amenity fee ?

[graciegirl]

If you use 2 lots to build a home, do you pay double the amenity fee ?

That is a very good question, but I wonder if the deed restrictions would allow you to build that way.:thumbup: Anybody know?

AND I would think there are some guidelines as to who and how you build, or because of the difference in restrictions there, is it ANYTHING goes?

Someone is going to say that they would think that the developer would have to build the house, (so he can make more money) so I will say it.:(

[BethS]

Right on!!

[redwitch]

Someone is going to say that they would think that the developer would have to build the house, (so he can make more money) so I will say it.:(


Sorry, sweetie, but I don't think anyone thinks that (at least I hope not). So far as I know, if a home falls within the deed restrictions, is approved by the Architectural Committee and gets the proper permits, anyone can build it. There are legal restrictions and, so far as I know, people have the right to hire whomever they wish to do a legal job, even in construction.

[K9-Lovers]

Recently took a look and I think the house is going to look great! Yes, it is larger than the small single-wides on either side, but I'm betting this is what will happen to a number of the oldest, original homes. The oldest will be razed and be replaced either by larger prefabricated homes, or by stick-built homes.

[jebartle]

looks like a bank night deposit! Hmmm!




Recently took a look and I think the house is going to look great! Yes, it is larger than the small single-wides on either side, but I'm betting this is what will happen to a number of the oldest, original homes. The oldest will be razed and be replaced either by larger prefabricated homes, or by stick-built homes.

[Mudder]

looks like a bank night deposit! Hmmm!

That is exactly what i think everytime I go buy there. I'm just going to have to stop the cart, get out and investigate closer.

[cquick]

Are you saying that a person could buy a manufactured home and tear it out and replace it with a site built home? I am surprised....I would think that there would be a restriction replacing an older manufactured home with a new manufactured home, but not with a site built home. hmmmmm

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Are you saying that a person could buy a manufactured home and tear it out and replace it with a site built home? I am surprised....I would think that there would be a restriction replacing an older manufactured home with a new manufactured home, but not with a site built home. hmmmmm

Yep - that can....and has....been done in the Historic area - with appropriate approvals, etc., I'm sure.

Bill :)

[Pturner]

Can't wait to find out what the "box on the right of the home" that looks like a bank deposit box is.

[golf2140]

Can't wait to find out what the "box on the right of the home" that looks like a bank deposit box is.

I agree, every time I pass that house I think it has a night deposit vault.

[bkcunningham1]

I think it is a fireplace built into the wall.

[bkcunningham1]

Are you saying that a person could buy a manufactured home and tear it out and replace it with a site built home? I am surprised....I would think that there would be a restriction replacing an older manufactured home with a new manufactured home, but not with a site built home. hmmmmm

It is being done all over the historic side. There are some really beautiful homes being built and some really nice modular homes replacing the older manufacturered homes.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

I think it is a fireplace built into the wall.

That gets my vote as well. Sandy and I checked the place out when we were last there in June. Looks about like the only thing it could be to me. But what do I know??? :loco:

Bill :)