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StamperTV25
04-10-2025, 03:18 PM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Normal
04-10-2025, 03:28 PM
You are correct. Patio villas are cheaper and wouldn't necessarily require the amount of maintenance a designer home would have. Yards are smaller in many cases and the homes are just more utilitarian and minimal landscaping cost. In most cases it’s cheaper and easier to furnish less square footage for the turn key look. Also don’t have the overhead costs for view etc that some designer homes have. The smaller tighter option is better for those who want to run an AirBnB business and turn profits through renting. A designer is generally more spacious and favorable for those wanting to relocate permanently so in probability, less likely to be rentals.

When all is said and done though, some designer homes are still rented out. Owners can still be and often are snowbirds but desire the privacy of not renting their homes out.

vintageogauge
04-10-2025, 03:35 PM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.

In my experience I would say that there are more full time residents in villas but also more renters. In designers, etc., I would say there would be more snowbirds than in the villas and less renters. In either case most neighbors are great people with the occasional bad apple. If you want space to walk around your home go with the designer, if you want more of a low maintenance home with close neighbors go with the villa, either way you will have hundreds to choose from, north, central, or south.

Topspinmo
04-10-2025, 03:50 PM
Depends on how close you feel living feet from your neighbors and I hope get along with them? At least designers are yards apart usually have bigger garage and square footage and of course at higher price. IMO more full time residents in designer neighborhoods in my area? Only patio villa I would be interested in would end of street where at least on one side open and not in middle, but that’s me. CYVs have walls which provide some privacy, but still close. Even patio villas are around or over 300K, few years ago there use to be large separation of costs vs CYVs and designer. Now not so much?

badkarma318
04-10-2025, 04:58 PM
Patio Villa neighborhoods have the highest probability of rentals. Designer neighborhoods will have less rentals, but may have more people who are off on a cruise every 2 weeks, are snowbirds, or who may keep to themselves a bit more (especially if they have a pool).

A Courtyard Villa neighborhood might be the sweet spot, but there you have to be careful of neighbors who leave Fido out in the enclosed back yard (or lanai/birdcage) yapping for hours at a time. I know of people who moved because of that problem.

We were concerned about being surrounded by rentals, so you could do what we did - once you think you've found a home that is "the one", take the addresses of the homes on either side of "the one", behind it/across the street from it, and run them through the top 5 rental sites. This will give you a good idea of the number of rentals nearby. Obviously you can include the entire neighborhood if you like, but this method worked out perfectly for us.

villagetinker
04-10-2025, 05:16 PM
Our neighborhood south of 466a and north of 44 is almost all year-round residents, this area is basically designer homes with some villa neighborhoods. The designers are going to cost more and there tends to be a higher upkeep, but IMHO really worth it.

dewilson58
04-10-2025, 05:20 PM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Designer neighborhoods has much larger streets and unlike Villa hoods.....most cars are in garages.

KAM+6
04-10-2025, 07:30 PM
Consider a cottage home. Again, most are year round residents. Still low maintenance , lower taxes. Mine has split floor plan, separate guest quarters. Love it.

Topspinmo
04-10-2025, 07:33 PM
Patio Villa neighborhoods have the highest probability of rentals. Designer neighborhoods will have less rentals, but may have more people who are off on a cruise every 2 weeks, are snowbirds, or who may keep to themselves a bit more (especially if they have a pool).

A Courtyard Villa neighborhood might be the sweet spot, but there you have to be careful of neighbors who leave Fido out in the enclosed back yard (or lanai/birdcage) yapping for hours at a time. I know of people who moved because of that problem.

We were concerned about being surrounded by rentals, so you could do what we did - once you think you've found a home that is "the one", take the addresses of the homes on either side of "the one", behind it/across the street from it, and run them through the top 5 rental sites. This will give you a good idea of the number of rentals nearby. Obviously you can include the entire neighborhood if you like, but this method worked out perfectly for us.

Any dog yapping anywhere in villages is close enough to be heard due to sardine can design.

Topspinmo
04-10-2025, 07:34 PM
Designer neighborhoods has much larger streets and unlike Villa hoods.....most cars are in garages.


Now that’s funny like most can get car in garage….:wave:

CarlR33
04-10-2025, 07:52 PM
I have a designer and have 4 homes within eyesight with snowbirds and one rental across the street. It’s a quiet street for the most part. The patio villa we rented before this in Richmond had several rentals around it. Never saw a beer can in the yard but did see a large number of POA papers blowing around the first of the month since homes were not occupied (true and pics).

FloridaGuy66
04-10-2025, 08:55 PM
Designer neighborhoods has much larger streets and unlike Villa hoods.....most cars are in garages.

I'm not sure that I would apply that statement broadly. I live in a village with mostly designer homes and most cars have a car in the driveway usually due to other items in their garage like additional cars/golf carts/motorcycles/stuff. I'm in a village south of 44, so it's a much younger crowd, so maybe that accounts for some of the difference.

FloridaGuy66
04-10-2025, 09:01 PM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents.

Why is this a worry? As a resident of TV for 3+ years, that's the least of my concerns. My street is around 1/2 year round with the rest snowbirds or people going back and forth between other homes. Many of the full time people on my street are away on trips and cruises frequently though from what I can tell.

I have friends all over TV and the ones that I know in less than ideal situations either have barking dogs outside of their courtyard or veranda, or they have neighbors that are busy doing noisy activities in their garage.

I haven't had anyone complain to me that not enough of their neighbors are home.

DrMack
04-11-2025, 01:24 AM
Why is this a worry?

It should be. There are plenty of reasons to be concerned about your neighbor being switched out every month. You shouldn’t always have to think it’s a crap shoot again on our neighbors this month. We all desire and deserve some security and consistency in our lives even if neighbors aren’t always perfect.

No one on this site will tell you they want to live next to a rental. We certainly don’t!

Rainger99
04-11-2025, 02:24 AM
It should be. There are plenty of reasons to be concerned about your neighbor being switched out every month. You shouldn’t always have to think it’s a crap shoot again on our neighbors this month.

But if you have a bad neighbor who is there permanently, that might be worse. We don’t have a problem with our neighbors but some nearby homes do have dogs that are constantly barking. I have never seen a rental with a dog (although I am sure that there are some). And even if there were, it would only last a short period. Lots of rentals prohibit pets.

Rzepecki
04-11-2025, 04:31 AM
IMO it’s not the type of home that determines whether or not the residents are full time, but the age of the Village. A more established Village would tend to have more full time residents.

bowlingal
04-11-2025, 04:35 AM
there is really no sure way to tell snowbirds vs full timers. Sales happen all the time. At best, go to the neighbors and ask.

elle123
04-11-2025, 04:46 AM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Othen less expensive properties are purchased as income producers like Airbnb's.
There's no regulations preventing that. Just something to keep in mind.

darkim
04-11-2025, 04:59 AM
If you reference home listed on ****, it’s probably a fair listing of both Designer and Villa homes. I would also consider Villas for safety reasons because they’re always in a closed neighborhoods. Overall, always consider location, location, location. Realtor reports show the Brownwood area still holds a high demand due to its proximity to Brownwood and Sumter, as well as numerous access to grocery, shops, restaurants, and golf courses. Anything south of 44 lacks all of that.

jimbomaybe
04-11-2025, 05:04 AM
Any dog yapping anywhere in villages is close enough to be heard due to sardine can design.
If you have noise concerns an area that has a lot of backyards that are enclosed will draw dog owners and with it the possible noise pollution, I haven't made a study of it but I believe that the higher priced units have more unfenced space between them leaving an escape route for your pet, what would ARC have to say about fencing in your yard?

thevillages2013
04-11-2025, 05:22 AM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
You want to be in a neighborhood with year round residents but you didn’t state that you will be one. Inquiring mind ….

paulledbetter
04-11-2025, 05:26 AM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.

If you would hire me as your Realtor, I will send you designer and/or patio homes in neighborhoods where I've researched if your future neighbors are snowbird or year-round. I'll need price range, preferred area, and desires (such as: stucco only, no pool, enclosed lanai versus open birdcage, view, etc.). Paul Ledbetter Realtor with Realty Executives in The Villages. 352 661 5309

BubblesandPat
04-11-2025, 05:48 AM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.

We live in a Courtyard Villa, and do have a lot of neighbors who are rentals. Really don't see the difference between living with people who are renters and those who own. Maybe we have just been lucky..our street is very quiet and very friendly.

If you are like where we were from, where your neighbors become your best friends, and are you concerned about that, well don't be. We have great neighbors and enjoy occasional driveway parties, but most of my friends are people I have met at clubs and events. They live all over TV.

We love our Courtyard...we have walls around us and don't have to deal with kissing lanais and noise. The walls are very good at keeping the noise down and offering privacy. We looked Designers and did not care that the people behind us are almost on top of us, and I know people who have to deal with neighbors who LIVE on their lanai, watching loud television for all hours and talking loudly on the phone, etc. That would bother me more than living with rentals. So I would look closely around your surroundings if you go with a designer.

Good luck and welcome! We love the Villages! People are much nicer in person than on social media. :wave:

Kingsport
04-11-2025, 05:54 AM
If you are used to living in a house, get a designer home with a golf cart garage. I would not focus on renters, but on the lot. Get as much privacy as you can afford. There is plenty of inventory right now. Be patient.

westernrider75
04-11-2025, 05:59 AM
We own a courtyard villa and are south of 44 in a village that is about 6 years old now. We have very few rental units in our neighborhood, I believe there are 3 out of a total of 66 in the whole neighborhood. No problems as most are long term and become part of the group. We prefer the privacy of our walled in backyard, the only barking dog comes from the designer behind us but we don’t mind as we have always been dog owners.

Nickie475
04-11-2025, 06:21 AM
We close in May and bought a designer home. It's a second home for us so we will be coming and going through out the year but we won't be renting it. We know people with both patio villas and designer homes that do the same thing so my guess would be there is a mix with both.

cjky2k
04-11-2025, 06:33 AM
You are correct. Patio villas are cheaper and wouldn't necessarily require the amount of maintenance a designer home would have. Yards are smaller in many cases and the homes are just more utilitarian and minimal landscaping cost. In most cases it’s cheaper and easier to furnish less square footage for the turn key look. Also don’t have the overhead costs for view etc that some designer homes have. The smaller tighter option is better for those who want to run an AirBnB business and turn profits through renting. A designer is generally more spacious and favorable for those wanting to relocate permanently so in probability, less likely to be rentals.

When all is said and done though, some designer homes are still rented out. Owners can still be and often are snowbirds but desire the privacy of not renting their homes out.

Not my experience at all in renting houses when my kids visit. I can always find designer homes - harder to find patio villas! But I live near Sumter landing, and I have hear that in the new construction in some areas well more than half the patio villas immediately become rentals

I’ve only lived here full time for two years now, but we owned for two before that (didn’t rent out - visited every month). Our courtyard villa neighborhood was built in 2006. When we bought, the majority of the residents were original purchasers and had become full time residents. But many started as snow birds. Now we are losing the oldest and a few of those homes have been sold and are being rented. And some of us “youngsters” have become full time.

While the type of house might have some impact, I think the age of the buyers does as well. Therefore you might also want to visit areas other than new construction. Keep in mind there are a lot of “true snowbirds”. Live here in the winter - but home empty in the summer and NEVER rented out. Good luck

mrf6969
04-11-2025, 06:44 AM
Poster, if you are looking for factual information, you are not going to find it here as most comments here are just a matter of opinion.

RMore49
04-11-2025, 06:59 AM
We live in Pine Hills on Bell Terrace, a cross street with 21 designer homes. The homes are approximately eight years old. Yes we have a few snowbirds but for the most part the majority are year round residents. Obviously we all have different social/club interest but we gather quite regularly for driveway get togethers as well as holiday dinner and/or pot lucks.
Our street is exceptionally inviting thus the other cross streets and connecting street, Kauska, participate in our get togethers.
BTW, we have two very nice houses for sale at this time due to folks moving back to where their children live.

bshuler
04-11-2025, 07:06 AM
I bought a designer home in Shady Brook a few months ago. I have made many friends here. One difference no one notices is that designer homes have concrete curbs and drains on the edge of the street.

I am surrounded on 3 sides by one AirBnb and 2 rentals (one is a snowbird that rents half a year). This is shocking to me frankly. The belief you avoid this by upgrading to a designer wasn’t true (at least for me).

airstreamingypsy
04-11-2025, 07:16 AM
I think you would get a more accurate answer if you named some villages that you were interested in, and asked people in those villages.

EatthMama
04-11-2025, 07:23 AM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
I am not sure “opinions” are what you need. If I were you, I would call property management at The Villages and maybe Realty Executives to get an MLS company’s perspective. Ask how many villas vs designer, veranda homes they rent out. They may even be willing to share which villages they don’t have a lot of business in. Good luck.

Switter
04-11-2025, 07:36 AM
Any dog yapping anywhere in villages is close enough to be heard due to sardine can design.

lol. This is true. I live in a designer home. It's not only yapping dogs it's people talking outside the house. It sounds like they are in the room next to you. There is little to no privacy in the villages but it wasn't really designed for that anyway.

I stayed in two villas before buying a designer home. To me, the main differences between them is the number of bedrooms, the size and type of the yard, and the size of the garage.

Villas are two bedroom, designer homes are 3+

You can buy villas that have no grass at all, but have landscape rock.

Villas typically have a one car garage where designer homes have a two car garage, with some having an extended space for a golf cart. They also tend to have smaller driveways.

For me it's utilitarian. I wanted a two car garage and three bedrooms. I still work (remotely) and wanted to have an office plus a spare bedroom in case people came to visit (which they will).

The Villa I stayed in was in Pennecamp. It was very nice and if it wasn't for the garage and the number of bedrooms I would definitely consider buying one.

dewilson58
04-11-2025, 07:40 AM
.....................I stayed in two villas before buying a designer home. To me, the main differences between them is the number of bedrooms, the size and type of the yard, and the size of the garage.

Villas are two bedroom, designer homes are 3+

You can buy villas that have no grass at all, but have landscape rock.

Villas typically have a one car garage where designer homes have a two car garage, with some having an extended space for a golf cart. They also tend to have smaller driveways.

For me it's utilitarian. I wanted a two car garage and three bedrooms. I still work (remotely) and wanted to have an office plus a spare bedroom in case people came to visit (which they will).

FYI....................there are Villas with three bedrooms.
Yes, Villa garages are generally smaller, but there are fully size doubles available.

StamperTV25
04-11-2025, 07:50 AM
You want to be in a neighborhood with year round residents but you didn’t state that you will be one. Inquiring mind ….

We will be year round residents moving from Sarasota area,

dewilson58
04-11-2025, 07:54 AM
We will be year round residents moving from Sarasota area,

Welcome to the North.
Much colder up here.

:wave:

merrymini
04-11-2025, 07:55 AM
Everything here is hearsay. Just like I said, the hearsay is that the smaller homes south of 44 seem to have the higher quantity of rentals. People buy them and wait out the year to sell them and meanwhile rent them out.

Normal
04-11-2025, 07:56 AM
No one on this site will tell you they want to live next to a rental. We certainly don’t!

Absolutely correct. Sometimes there are zero problems, sometimes there are many. Some are very short term some are not.

Justputt
04-11-2025, 08:07 AM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.

We built a designer home. The main reason is we knew space, especially storage, was going to be an issue. The designers are larger, and by building you can stretch the home. I would recommend maximum stretches in at least the garage with a roofline that maximizes above garage storage, which you can use safely with solar fans, etc. to keep it cool enough to use. Our 3rd bedroom is really office/storage. I'd also stretch the liana by at least 4'. Lastly, there were articles I think in TOTV about certain style homes (I believe the walled communities) that "own" the interior roads, as opposed to the city, and are responsible for maintaining them at THEIR expense. I seem to remember a stink in CCD8 about it and the creation of a fund to eventually have to pay for replacement/repairs, which some homeowners went nuts about. While designers do have a modestly larger lot, ours in only 0.15 acres. LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION, avoid high traffic, noise, light pollution areas. Eastport may be the new hub, but with schools, ball games, school bands outside practice, the family village(s), they'll be more traffic young and old and all that goes with it. Peaceful evenings on your liana may not be so peaceful.

dewilson58
04-11-2025, 08:36 AM
Everything here is hearsay.

By definition, this post is hearsay.

:girlneener:

wanttoknow
04-11-2025, 08:47 AM
we are living in a courtyard villa - best advise to you is: residents in The Villages are people who just locate from other areas: people are people - no matter where they live - some are considerate others not. hopefully you will move next to some considered neighbors no matter what your choice. also your friendly neighbors can relocate at anytime and you don't know who is moving in. its a gamble.

mraines
04-11-2025, 09:44 AM
[QUOTE=StamperTV25;2423065]We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.[Just my personal opinion, but I owned a patio villa. I felt claustrophobic as there were few windows and no view. I sold it and bought a designer home on the golf course and couldn't be happier. I thought about a courtyard villa but couldn't afford it and have since decided that they are not all that conducive to seeing neighbors.

Switter
04-11-2025, 09:55 AM
FYI....................there are Villas with three bedrooms.
Yes, Villa garages are generally smaller, but there are fully size doubles available.

Oh! I did not know that.

CarlR33
04-11-2025, 10:10 AM
FYI....................there are Villas with three bedrooms.
Yes, Villa garages are generally smaller, but there are fully size doubles available.
Correct, but I think the third bedroom eliminates the lanai?

jimjamuser
04-11-2025, 10:13 AM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Rent through the summer months so you get a feel for the heat and humidity if you will be a year around resident.

StamperTV25
04-11-2025, 10:21 AM
Rent through the summer months so you get a feel for the heat and humidity if you will be a year around resident.

We have been in Florida for 10 years.......heat doesn't bother us.

dewilson58
04-11-2025, 10:36 AM
Correct, but I think the third bedroom eliminates the lanai?

There are 3 bedroom, with lanai, with larger garage, with yard, with kitchen sink.

Topspinmo
04-11-2025, 11:16 AM
lol. This is true. I live in a designer home. It's not only yapping dogs it's people talking outside the house. It sounds like they are in the room next to you. There is little to no privacy in the villages but it wasn't really designed for that anyway.

I stayed in two villas before buying a designer home. To me, the main differences between them is the number of bedrooms, the size and type of the yard, and the size of the garage.

Villas are two bedroom, designer homes are 3+

You can buy villas that have no grass at all, but have landscape rock.

Villas typically have a one car garage where designer homes have a two car garage, with some having an extended space for a golf cart. They also tend to have smaller driveways.

For me it's utilitarian. I wanted a two car garage and three bedrooms. I still work (remotely) and wanted to have an office plus a spare bedroom in case people came to visit (which they will).

The Villa I stayed in was in Pennecamp. It was very nice and if it wasn't for the garage and the number of bedrooms I would definitely consider buying one.

I don’t know about newer design patio villas but in my area rock yards not allowed like in CYVs.

coffeebean
04-11-2025, 04:07 PM
Any dog yapping anywhere in villages is close enough to be heard due to sardine can design.

Courtyard Villas have an enclosed yard with fencing. Anytime there is fencing, there is the chance of a dog being in the yard for hours at a time, not just for a potty break. I would go out of my mind if I had a barking dog in the neighborhood, especially next to my home. Just NO!

PurePeach
04-11-2025, 06:24 PM
We are getting close to purchasing in TV....the worry I have is I would like a neighborhood with more year round residents. I don't know if most Patio Villa neighborhoods have year round residents vs. Designer homes? My thought is that Designer Homes would offer more year round residents.....but I thought I would ask current residents for their opinions. We are looking at both for different reasons.....but would prefer more year round residents vs. seasonal residents. Thanks in advance for any feedback.

My husband and I moved into a PV 4-1/2 yrs ago from a 3400SF home in ATL. Quite an adjustment, but we love it. LOTS fewer dust bunnies to chase, LOTS less yard to worry about. We came with one vehicle and bought a golf cart, and we are just fine. MORE time to play. AND we have learned that we live just fine with a lot less stuff and life is so much simpler. We are in the northern area and have lots of full time owners and several of them are original owners of their PV. Actually, we are surrounded by full-timers and they are all great neighbors and now friends. No regrets.

Topspinmo
04-11-2025, 09:21 PM
If you have noise concerns an area that has a lot of backyards that are enclosed will draw dog owners and with it the possible noise pollution, I haven't made a study of it but I believe that the higher priced units have more unfenced space between them leaving an escape route for your pet, what would ARC have to say about fencing in your yard?

I was responding to post. I don’t have noise problem or dog problem and my yard has walls around it which muffled noise from surrounding neighbors in my area. I rarely hear anything in my house other than box truck going by.

asianthree
04-12-2025, 05:34 AM
First home Rental PV in Caroline. Roughly 60% private rentals that was used for LSV. So short term rentals, used by developer.

Second: PV New, in Pennacamp. The first year was a ghost town. Few homes were occupied full time, with majority seasonal rentals, which didn’t include short term rentals. After a year about 40% rentals, by year 4 only a small percentage of rentals.

Third: Cottage New in Fernandina. Purchased as an investment. 60% rentals the first year. Year two 30% rentals, however 1/3 like ours were unfurnished long term, tight knit area due to lack of seasonal rentals. No STR (short term rentals of 1-7 days) for 10 years.

Fourth: Designer Preowned, established area 95% full time original owners. Change of ownership was not welcomed by some residents. However due to age, within 2 years, rentals increased due to loss of spouse, or moved to memory care. Once sold many bought as investment, mostly seasonal, with a percentage of STR.

Fifth Premiere New. First year, some homes occupied by owners seasonally, for first year.
Other areas of village, many STR for the first year, with some seasonal rentals. At one year mark, many STR sold (rumor was due to proximity & some VLS investor owned). Year two Premiers & Designer, mostly full time. PV, and Cottage still have about 30-40% seasonal and STR

So from 2007- 4/2025, new neighborhoods provided a fair amount of rentals, awaiting original owners to retire. Timeline about 1-3 years.

Older Preowned neighborhood STRs more abundant as investment property, down the road, as they age out of homes.

So new Village % of rental higher first 1-2 years, with younger residents moving in. Established areas, depending on age of residents and Village, rental becomes more prevalent, with a mix of Old, and younger buyers. Sometimes younger and renters are not well received by long term original owners.

On a personal note I did find less tolerance of ethnic acceptance in older villages between the 6’s compared to south of 44. Could be due to younger residents and different values.

ElDiabloJoe
04-12-2025, 07:08 AM
Explore Homes in The Villages(R): Find Your Perfect Home (https://www.thevillages.com/home-series/)

Click on link above. Select the Villa series you are curious about (Patio, Cottage, Courtyard, Garden) and it will show you the individual floorplans. Clear to see which have 2 and which have 3 bedrooms. Some, as mentioned prior in the thread, the 3rd bedroom option comes at the expense of loss of lanai (Emerald Patio Villa, for example).

Keninches
04-12-2025, 02:41 PM
All neighborhoods are different. People come and go for one reason or another. Our neighborhood has changed significantly after 21 years in the same designer. Golf cart path behind us plus shrubs and a Village fence. Not noisy at all.
Good luck.

FloridaGuy66
04-12-2025, 09:23 PM
It should be. There are plenty of reasons to be concerned about your neighbor being switched out every month. You shouldn’t always have to think it’s a crap shoot again on our neighbors this month. We all desire and deserve some security and consistency in our lives even if neighbors aren’t always perfect.

No one on this site will tell you they want to live next to a rental. We certainly don’t!

People not being full time doesn't all of the sudden mean they are renting out their places in the other months.

I'm a landlord in TV so have a lot of insight into this. Very few snowbirds bother renting out their place in the offseason months. There's really not much of a market left for that with the few people in cheaper villages offering rock bottom AirBnb rentals in bare bones 2/2 villas.

Rentals are not as common as you may think.

Nana2Teddy
04-13-2025, 02:57 PM
Now that’s funny like most can get car in garage….:wave:

We park in garage! Car and two carts with lots of space leftover. We off loaded our junk before we moved here. So freeing! 😊

Nana2Teddy
04-13-2025, 03:11 PM
Rent through the summer months so you get a feel for the heat and humidity if you will be a year around resident.
They’re moving from Sarasota. I think it’s cooler here, lol.

KimberlyOz
05-05-2025, 12:45 PM
One year living in a patio villa in the new eastport area. The problem with the patio villa's for me personally is the transient nature of the owners. This is something that no one really talks about. It's not the renters, or the close proximity of the homes that while that sometimes causes minor issues it can be worked out. It's when the owners come into town for two weeks, they escape their problems at home and they are the kindest people to you. Then they go home and you hear nothing until they come back again. Do they know how hard this is on the full timers? Feeling a bit "used". Sorry for the rant but I hope it gives a glimpse into one of the issues with this style home.

VApeople
05-05-2025, 04:15 PM
Then they go home and you hear nothing until they come back again. Do they know how hard this is on the full timers?

We have no idea. I wish all of our neighbors were like that.

jimhoward
05-05-2025, 05:23 PM
I have noticed that some of the nice new-built homes in prime locations on view lots in the new areas, are for rent.

The villages does not let you re-sell new homes at a profit for a year. I speculate that people buy these nice homes, and intend to rent them for a year, then sell them after a year for a profit.

ElDiabloJoe
05-06-2025, 07:32 AM
One year living in a patio villa in the new eastport area. The problem with the patio villa's for me personally is the transient nature of the owners. This is something that no one really talks about. It's not the renters, or the close proximity of the homes that while that sometimes causes minor issues it can be worked out. It's when the owners come into town for two weeks, they escape their problems at home and they are the kindest people to you. Then they go home and you hear nothing until they come back again. Do they know how hard this is on the full timers? Feeling a bit "used". Sorry for the rant but I hope it gives a glimpse into one of the issues with this style home.
Huh. Interesting insight. I'm going to guess your career was spent in a small, close-knit environment, like a family-owned, office-based company? Maybe a single-location medical facility?

Your concern is interesting to me because it was never even a blip on my radar. I spent my career working for employers that had many thousands of employees and dozens of work sites. It was not uncommon to work with someone for a few months or a few years, then go your separate ways to different assignment/work locations only to meet up again at another one years later. People tended to pick up their friendships pretty much where they left off after a short reacquainting conversation.

My northern home is about 10% Florida snowbirds. We simply say "See you later" in the winter, and "Hey, welcome back!" in the Spring, picking up neighborhood socials right were we left off six months prior.

Normal
05-06-2025, 09:24 AM
One year living in a patio villa in the new eastport area. The problem with the patio villa's for me personally is the transient nature of the owners. This is something that no one really talks about. It's not the renters, or the close proximity of the homes that while that sometimes causes minor issues it can be worked out. It's when the owners come into town for two weeks, they escape their problems at home and they are the kindest people to you. Then they go home and you hear nothing until they come back again. Do they know how hard this is on the full timers? Feeling a bit "used". Sorry for the rant but I hope it gives a glimpse into one of the issues with this style home.


Exactly!

thelegges
05-06-2025, 10:34 AM
One year living in a patio villa in the new eastport area. The problem with the patio villa's for me personally is the transient nature of the owners. This is something that no one really talks about. It's not the renters, or the close proximity of the homes that while that sometimes causes minor issues it can be worked out. It's when the owners come into town for two weeks, they escape their problems at home and they are the kindest people to you. Then they go home and you hear nothing until they come back again. Do they know how hard this is on the full timers? Feeling a bit "used". Sorry for the rant but I hope it gives a glimpse into one of the issues with this style home.

It’s not the PV neighborhood it the age of owners. On our Fifth Village. I never moved expecting neighbors to fulfill all my needs like staying and never leaving their house, making a promise they would always be home.

Those that stayed in their houses and rarely left were of an age that I really didn’t have anything in common other than they could’ve been our parents

The younger residence like us travel, take vacations. OP if you really need all homebody neighbors, travel north. Most we have played golf with have never traveled farther than 15 minutes from their house. Have no idea where Brownwood is, and I’ve never heard of Eastport.

DrMack
05-06-2025, 10:45 AM
Have no idea where Brownwood is, and I’ve never heard of Eastport.



Obviously not well rounded for this discussion. OP, don’t listen to the clueless. None of us want to live near rentals and a lack of consistency. Villas and designer homes are far less likely to be rentals than the mass produced courtyard villas.

Normal
05-06-2025, 10:46 AM
Obviously not well rounded for this discussion. OP, don’t listen to the clueless. None of us want to live near rentals and a lack of consistency. Villas and designer homes are far less likely to be rentals than the mass produced courtyard villas.

I know I don’t.