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Beegoat
04-18-2025, 08:15 AM
Beegoat
04-15-2025 01:45 PMBeegoat
Questions about land for sale that is behind my house not owned by the Villages. It is farm land now but I saw it up for sale on Zillow. Is there a way for me to find out if it sold and if they changed it from agricultural to something else? thanks
kansasr
04-18-2025, 08:34 AM
Beegoat
04-15-2025 01:45 PMBeegoat
Questions about land for sale that is behind my house not owned by the Villages. It is farm land now but I saw it up for sale on Zillow. Is there a way for me to find out if it sold and if they changed it from agricultural to something else? thanks
You can pull up the property record on the county property appraiser's web site. Usually it takes 4-6 weeks before a sale will show up there, however.
Jayhawk
04-18-2025, 08:47 AM
Beegoat
04-15-2025 01:45 PMBeegoat
Questions about land for sale that is behind my house not owned by the Villages. It is farm land now but I saw it up for sale on Zillow. Is there a way for me to find out if it sold and if they changed it from agricultural to something else? thanks
If it is on Zillow there is usually (maybe not always) an agent contact. Click on the button and ask the listing agent.
Aces4
04-18-2025, 10:00 AM
Beegoat
04-15-2025 01:45 PMBeegoat
Questions about land for sale that is behind my house not owned by the Villages. It is farm land now but I saw it up for sale on Zillow. Is there a way for me to find out if it sold and if they changed it from agricultural to something else? thanks
This is a major life lesson in purchasing your home. NEVER buy a home next to vacant land that could in the future be developed. I shudder when I think of the lovely homes that had cell towers placed near by, storage compounds, apartment complexes even manure pits, lol. Now if one is fine with all these things, purchase away.
I hope you are able to find an answer to your question and wish you only good luck. Maybe someone with big pockets will build their mansion and estate outside your back door!
Altavia
04-18-2025, 10:10 AM
Wildwood has a history of altering zoning regulations for properties adjacent to the Villages to accommodate uses that homeowners oppose.
Topspinmo
04-18-2025, 03:41 PM
Only way can control land around your property is buy it when it comes up for sale. Providing around here you have millions to dispose of.
Topspinmo
04-18-2025, 03:45 PM
Wildwood has a history of altering zoning regulations for properties adjacent to the Villages to accommodate uses that homeowners oppose.
I’m still wondering why wildwood built parking garage in down town wildwood? Maybe Brightline or AMTRAC will be stopping in future?
FloridaGuy66
04-18-2025, 04:01 PM
This is a major life lesson in purchasing your home. NEVER buy a home next to vacant land that could in the future be developed. I shudder when I think of the lovely homes that had cell towers placed near by, storage compounds, apartment complexes even manure pits, lol. Now if one is fine with all these things, purchase away.
I have a friend that lives in TV that lives on a sort of pie shaped preserve site lot that they built on about 4 years ago. The problem is that about half of their lot also backs onto a large non-Villages rural property with a run down house around 1000' feet away from the back of the property. The owners seem to have taken up a hobby of trying to antagonize the Villagers abutting their property by riding dirt bikes up around the fence and doing target practice with their guns during weekend afternoons. Not a situation that I would feel great about after paying a premium for that lot.
kansasr
04-18-2025, 04:03 PM
I’m still wondering why wildwood built parking garage in down town wildwood? Maybe Brightline or AMTRAC will be stopping in future?
If you've ever tried to shop at any of the locations on the west side of 301, you'll know why the parking garage was needed!
Stu from NYC
04-18-2025, 04:24 PM
Never understood buying a house without spending time to see what is around them and what could happen in the future.
Michael G.
04-18-2025, 04:43 PM
Never understood buying a house without spending time to see what is around them and what could happen in the future.
Then you wouldn't understand how so many people buy their house
sight-unseen just from the listings.
Topspinmo
04-18-2025, 06:35 PM
If you've ever tried to shop at any of the locations on the west side of 301, you'll know why the parking garage was needed!
You mean the maybe 5 businesses? How like cross 301 to get to other side? Where city business and most of other businesses are? They should planed crossover walkway IMO.
Aces4
04-18-2025, 06:47 PM
I have a friend that lives in TV that lives on a sort of pie shaped preserve site lot that they built on about 4 years ago. The problem is that about half of their lot also backs onto a large non-Villages rural property with a run down house around 1000' feet away from the back of the property. The owners seem to have taken up a hobby of trying to antagonize the Villagers abutting their property by riding dirt bikes up around the fence and doing target practice with their guns during weekend afternoons. Not a situation that I would feel great about after paying a premium for that lot.
Oh, UGH!
Altavia
04-18-2025, 08:45 PM
I have a friend that lives in TV that lives on a sort of pie shaped preserve site lot that they built on about 4 years ago. The problem is that about half of their lot also backs onto a large non-Villages rural property with a run down house around 1000' feet away from the back of the property. The owners seem to have taken up a hobby of trying to antagonize the Villagers abutting their property by riding dirt bikes up around the fence and doing target practice with their guns during weekend afternoons. Not a situation that I would feel great about after paying a premium for that lot.
A few years back, another property on Marsh Bend Trail apparently ask too much money so put up a "for sale for $5 million" and built a band stand where held a couple of concerts in Villagers back yards hoping the Villages would change their mind.
Last time I checked, that land was rezoned for a large storage facility.
elle123
04-19-2025, 05:01 AM
Beegoat
04-15-2025 01:45 PMBeegoat
Questions about land for sale that is behind my house not owned by the Villages. It is farm land now but I saw it up for sale on Zillow. Is there a way for me to find out if it sold and if they changed it from agricultural to something else? thanks
When you buy a home adjacent to a vacant lot you take a chance, as you never know what will become of it.
Marmaduke
04-19-2025, 07:16 AM
When you buy a home adjacent to a vacant lot you take a chance, as you never know what will become of it.
Exactly! Ask several hundred folks in Ocala who bought their houses or lots abuting beautiful ranches, that are now multi-complex, 4 story apartment buildings which honor HUD Vouchers.
I learned a lot from lessons from my mother and dad, who taught their kids important things, often through osmosis.
Talk around the dining room table about a relative was, if you don't want to live near a 24/7/365 noisy, bright light Truck Stop, never buy property abuting open land.
Thanks Dad, your philosophy was always brilliant, pointed out in all of those funny Fathers Day cards.
nhkim
04-19-2025, 07:20 AM
A few years back, another property on Marsh Bend Trail apparently ask too much money so put up a "for sale for $5 million" and built a band stand where held a couple of concerts in Villagers back yards hoping the Villages would change their mind.
Last time I checked, that land was rezoned for a large storage facility.
Across from Well Point, right? A piece of fenced land between The Villages and that new rental housing development? I commented to my husband last night when we were heading down Marsh Bend in our golf cart that I couldn't imagine what that structure was. It seemed like maybe an observation deck, but to observe what.
ElDiabloJoe
04-19-2025, 07:35 AM
Across from Well Point, right? A piece of fenced land between The Villages and that new rental housing development? I commented to my husband last night when we were heading down Marsh Bend in our golf cart that I couldn't imagine what that structure was. It seemed like maybe an observation deck, but to observe what.
Ahhhh, I thought that was some contraption for loading cattle or horses into trailers. Guess not.
Indydealmaker
04-19-2025, 08:14 AM
Only way can control land around your property is buy it when it comes up for sale. Providing around here you have millions to dispose of.
Optioning is a relatively cheap way to try to have a say in the future. Then form your own investment group comprised of affected neighbors.
Beegoat
04-19-2025, 08:48 AM
We bought the house 15 years ago. It was a farm then and has been for 15 years. Never know what people are going to do with their land.
BrianL99
04-19-2025, 09:13 AM
This doesn't happen often, but when it does, it warms the heart of Real Estate Developers everywhere.
I was once building an "Affordable Housing Development" in a very affluent community, west of Boston. We needed a Special Permit from the Zoning Board of Appeals (40B, for those who might know of such things).
The meeting of course, was open to the public and when the time came, the snobs came out of the woodwork. One particularly obnoxious neighbor, basically said ... "we're not used to having people like that, living in our neighborhood".
The next one was a classic. One woman stood up and gave an impassioned monologue, of all the years she had been looking out her kitchen window, at this "wide open, beautiful, open land" (It was actually just a small, 1.5A lot, covered with weeds & junk).
When she got done, the Chairman of the Board of Appeals, said: "Ma'am, just to be clear, you've been living there for 20+ years and that land has been vacant all that time?".
"Yes", she replied.
His answer: "So you could have inquired about buying it, anytime in the last 20 years"?
Checkmate.
In another episode in front of the exact same board, a group of neighbors banded together, to protest a subdivision I was building, next to theirs.
After an impassioned plea from the Homeowners' spokesperson, who gallanted recited what an absolute travesty it would be, to see all those trees cut down and the land cleared for housing ...
The Chairman responded:
"Sir, isn't there a very large subdivision next to yours, that was built 5 years before yours"? "I'll bet you a dollar, those people were in this room, with the exact same complaint that you're making, when someone wanted to build your home."
"I guess it was alright that they stripped the land to build your house, but you're opposed to anyone else getting a home ... do I have that right?"
Checkmate.
Pull up the ladder, I'm up !
Altavia
04-19-2025, 09:25 AM
Across from Well Point, right? A piece of fenced land between The Villages and that new rental housing development? I commented to my husband last night when we were heading down Marsh Bend in our golf cart that I couldn't imagine what that structure was. It seemed like maybe an observation deck, but to observe what.
It was a stage for a mini Woodstock - LOL
The land in front of Eden Village was zoned for a yet another mini strip mall last time I checked.
The establishment of isolated commercial zones adjacent to residential areas in Wildwood feels punitive towards homeowners residing within the Villages.
BrianL99
04-19-2025, 09:36 AM
It was a stage for a mini Woodstock - LOL
The land in front of Eden Village was zoned for a yet another mini strip mall last time I checked.
The establishment of isolated commercial zones adjacent to residential areas in Wildwood feels punitive towards homeowners residing within the Villages.
Almost every single piece of land in the USA, abuts another piece of land that may or may not, have the same zoning designation. If that zoning designation is different, it's up to the community to establish "set back requirements" to protect either use.
Most communities have increased "set back requirements" where differing zoning districts, abut. Common sense.
tophcfa
04-19-2025, 09:45 AM
When shopping for our Villages home we feel in love with a house that had a beautiful pool with a big empty field behind it. We made an offer with a contingency that we would be satisfied with the zoning status of the land. After searching public records, we learned the land’s zoning status had recently been changed from agricultural to commercial, so we walked away. We eventually found our dream home, which abuts a wildlife preserve/flood management area (basically a glorified swamp) that can NEVER be developed. Just out of curiosity, I recently drove by the home we walked away from and witnessed a very large multi story building being constructed behind the home. Totally sucks for the homes in that area.
Altavia
04-19-2025, 10:14 AM
Almost every single piece of land in the USA, abuts another piece of land that may or may not, have the same zoning designation. If that zoning designation is different, it's up to the community to establish "set back requirements" to protect either use.
Most communities have increased "set back requirements" where differing zoning districts, abut. Common sense.
Understood but Wildwood has a history changing small pockets of residential to commercial in the Fenny+ area.
Warm Springs is a hodge podge of commercial development. At least along 466A commercial development was grouped together.
Which circles back to, not wise to purchase a home adjacent to undeveloped property.
BrianL99
04-19-2025, 10:25 AM
Understood but Wildwood has a history changing small pockets of residential to commercial in the Fenny+ area.
Warm Springs is a hodge podge of commercial development. At least along 466A commercial development was grouped together.
Which circles back to, not wise to purchase a home adjacent to undeveloped property.
Which is why small developers love what they call "orphan lots". They are completely isolated like a "missing tooth". Everyone knows from the get go, what/who their neighbors will be. A known quantity, is always worth more than a gamble.
justjim
04-19-2025, 10:57 AM
I understand several Village property owners are not pleased with some of the development in Trailwinds.
CybrSage
04-19-2025, 10:57 AM
Wildwood has a history of altering zoning regulations for properties adjacent to the Villages to accommodate uses that homeowners oppose.
You voted against all who did this, right?
CybrSage
04-19-2025, 11:15 AM
I’m still wondering why wildwood built parking garage in down town wildwood? Maybe Brightline or AMTRAC will be stopping in future?
I personally think it was built for cars to park in. Could be wrong.
CybrSage
04-19-2025, 11:18 AM
The owners seem to have taken up a hobby of trying to antagonize the Villagers abutting their property by riding dirt bikes up around the fence and doing target practice with their guns during weekend afternoons. Not a situation that I would feel great about after paying a premium for that lot.
A few years back, another property on Marsh Bend Trail apparently ask too much money so put up a "for sale for $5 million" and built a band stand where held a couple of concerts in Villagers back yards hoping the Villages would change their mind.
Last time I checked, that land was rezoned for a large storage facility.
The establishment of isolated commercial zones adjacent to residential areas in Wildwood feels punitive towards homeowners residing within the Villages.
Why do people in the Villages always think everything that happens is about them?
I grew up in the country,which is what that area obviously was not that long ago, and we rode dirt bikes and shot guns quite a lot. That community was obviously there first and the people obviously did not buy dirt bikes and guns just to upset Villagers.
Small commercial centers are built for the convenience of the locals. The villages literally does this with town squares,, which are right next to villages.
shut the front door
04-19-2025, 11:39 AM
I have a friend that lives in TV that lives on a sort of pie shaped preserve site lot that they built on about 4 years ago. The problem is that about half of their lot also backs onto a large non-Villages rural property with a run down house around 1000' feet away from the back of the property. The owners seem to have taken up a hobby of trying to antagonize the Villagers abutting their property by riding dirt bikes up around the fence and doing target practice with their guns during weekend afternoons. Not a situation that I would feel great about after paying a premium for that lot.
Those people have been riding their dirt bikes on that property long before the villages ever built there. Contrary to what some believe, not everyone who lives outside the bubble spend their time trying to irritate people who live IN the bubble. They are living their lives, just like they did before you ever sniffed the villages.
MollyJo
04-19-2025, 03:17 PM
This is a major life lesson in purchasing your home. NEVER buy a home next to vacant land that could in the future be developed. I shudder when I think of the lovely homes that had cell towers placed near by, storage compounds, apartment complexes even manure pits, lol. Now if one is fine with all these things, purchase away.
I hope you are able to find an answer to your question and wish you only good luck. Maybe someone with big pockets will build their mansion and estate outside your back door!
I always wonder why homes are for sale with farm land behind. Once the original owners pass, their family likely just wants to cash out.
Picture a 2-3 story apartment complex looking down on your once peaceful adobe…
thelegges
04-19-2025, 03:30 PM
I always wonder why homes are for sale with farm land behind. Once the original owners pass, their family likely just wants to cash out.
Picture a 2-3 story apartment complex looking down on your once peaceful adobe…
Unless one has experience with farming, the lows and the extreme lows of no rain, too much rain, not enough seasonal pickers. Crops fail, too much crops and no buyers. Up at 3am, no breaks until cows are milked, fed, fences checked, where are the chickens hiding.
The highlight your 17yo got a 4 year scholarship to anywhere, so eventually they can feed their family and not worry about where the money will come from, and how are you going to get seeds when you still have debt from 4 years ago.
That’s why 4th gen farms go up for sale. Parents don’t want watch their kids work 70-80 hour weeks.
BrianL99
04-19-2025, 05:28 PM
Unless one has experience with farming, the lows and the extreme lows of no rain, too much rain, not enough seasonal pickers. Crops fail, too much crops and no buyers. Up at 3am, no breaks until cows are milked, fed, fences checked, where are the chickens hiding.
The highlight your 17yo got a 4 year scholarship to anywhere, so eventually they can feed their family and not worry about where the money will come from, and how are you going to get seeds when you still have debt from 4 years ago.
That’s why 4th gen farms go up for sale. Parents don’t want watch their kids work 70-80 hour weeks.
The United States Government has appropriated a little over $42 BILLION dollars for farmers this year.
Conservation and Safety-Net Programs:
The USDA announced the distribution of over $2.14 billion to agricultural producers and landowners through programs like the Conservation Reserve Program, Agriculture Risk Coverage (ARC), and Price Loss Coverage (PLC).
Emergency Commodity Assistance Program (ECAP):
The USDA's Farm Service Agency (FSA) allocated up to $10 billion in direct payments to eligible agricultural producers for the 2024 crop year through ECAP.
Economic Assistance:
Congress passed a stop-gap funding bill that included $10 billion in economic assistance for farmers, aiming to mitigate the impact of lower commodity prices and high production costs
.
Disaster Assistance:
Congress also allocated $20 billion in farm aid for natural disasters, with the USDA releasing more details on this aid, including funding for livestock losses due to events like drought and flood.
Distressed Farm Loan Assistance:
The USDA also provided final assistance of approximately $300 million to distressed direct and guaranteed farm loan borrowers under the Inflation Reduction Act.
Topspinmo
04-19-2025, 06:49 PM
Optioning is a relatively cheap way to try to have a say in the future. Then form your own investment group comprised of affected neighbors.
I don’t care. It’s not my land so it’s none of my business. Nor is it anyone’s else except owners.
thelegges
04-19-2025, 07:43 PM
The United States Government has appropriated a little over $42 BILLION dollars for farmers this year.
Conservation and Safety-Net Programs:
The USDA announced the distribution of over $2.14 billion to agricultural producers and landowners through programs like the Conservation Reserve Program, Agriculture Risk Coverage (ARC), and Price Loss Coverage (PLC).
Emergency Commodity Assistance Program (ECAP):
The USDA's Farm Service Agency (FSA) allocated up to $10 billion in direct payments to eligible agricultural producers for the 2024 crop year through ECAP.
Economic Assistance:
Congress passed a stop-gap funding bill that included $10 billion in economic assistance for farmers, aiming to mitigate the impact of lower commodity prices and high production costs
.
Disaster Assistance:
Congress also allocated $20 billion in farm aid for natural disasters, with the USDA releasing more details on this aid, including funding for livestock losses due to events like drought and flood.
Distressed Farm Loan Assistance:
The USDA also provided final assistance of approximately $300 million to distressed direct and guaranteed farm loan borrowers under the Inflation Reduction Act.
So like our Four Generation Three family farms, you have personal experience, on inter workings of farming?
Or just get information from the internet, that may look good on the net, but doesn’t equate to actual experience of farming and financial background.
What assistance may or may not benefit farms. If farms were able to obtain everything you found on the net.. TV and multiple developments would have never been built, because the cattle, watermelon, and dairy farmers would have never sold profitable land.
BrianL99
04-19-2025, 07:53 PM
What assistance may or may not benefit farms. If farms were able to obtain everything you found on the net.. TV and multiple developments would have never been built, because the cattle, watermelon, and dairy farmers would have never sold profitable land.
If farms couldn't make money, we'd all starve, because no one would farm.
Small farms may have trouble making money these days, for just the same reason you don't see Mom & Pop Grocery Stores or Stationary Stores or Cobblers ... they're not efficient and don't make money..
The idea of small, 4th generation family farms is quaint and nostalgic, but time has passed them by.
& to satisfy the folks that still like the idea of small, 4th Generation farms, the USA government is throwing billions at them. There are some strategic reasons for supporting farms, but in general, if you can't make a living at it, get into another business. You shouldn't be relying for the Government to bail you out every year, so your kids can hang out with the pigs & goats.
FloridaGuy66
04-19-2025, 07:59 PM
Why do people in the Villages always think everything that happens is about them?
I grew up in the country,which is what that area obviously was not that long ago, and we rode dirt bikes and shot guns quite a lot. That community was obviously there first and the people obviously did not buy dirt bikes and guns just to upset Villagers.
When someone has 50+ acres but chooses to do the noisiest activities on the 1 acre that is closest to neighbors, it becomes somewhat obvious. I grew up in the country and would see things like this all the time.
I don't really think it's important what anyone's intent is here anyways. The point is that many people are sold lots in TV that are connected to non-Villages land and the TV sales agents are not very forthcoming about what their land actually backs on to. I'm guessing maybe they don't even know in some cases.
Aces4
04-19-2025, 08:00 PM
So like our Four Generation Three family farms, you have personal experience, on inter workings of farming?
Or just get information from the internet, that may look good on the net, but doesn’t equate to actual experience of farming and financial background.
What assistance may or may not benefit farms. If farms were able to obtain everything you found on the net.. TV and multiple developments would have never been built, because the cattle, watermelon, and dairy farmers would have never sold profitable land.
A big problem is few want to do work or labor anymore. Go to college, get brilliant and use your head rather than your back. Yeah, right. Those that continue farming are in demand in the trades. They know how to work, think on their feet and are extremely handy.
Aces4
04-19-2025, 08:13 PM
If farms couldn't make money, we'd all starve, because no one would farm.
Small farms may have trouble making money these days, for just the same reason you don't see Mom & Pop Grocery Stores or Stationary Stores or Cobblers ... they're not efficient and don't make money..
The idea of small, 4th generation family farms is quaint and nostalgic, but time has passed them by.
& to satisfy the folks that still like the idea of small, 4th Generation farms, the USA government is throwing billions at them. There are some strategic reasons for supporting farms, but in general, if you can't make a living at it, get into another business. You shouldn't be relying for the Government to bail you out every year, so your kids can hang out with the pigs & goats.
And that's why you're eating foods with chemicals in them, hormones in your milk and GMO foods that can be shipped from Timbuktu. Big does not mean better by any stretch of the imagination.
thelegges
04-20-2025, 10:26 AM
If farms couldn't make money, we'd all starve, because no one would farm.
Small farms may have trouble making money these days, for just the same reason you don't see Mom & Pop Grocery Stores or Stationary Stores or Cobblers ... they're not efficient and don't make money..
The idea of small, 4th generation family farms is quaint and nostalgic, but time has passed them by.
& to satisfy the folks that still like the idea of small, 4th Generation farms, the USA government is throwing billions at them. There are some strategic reasons for supporting farms, but in general, if you can't make a living at it, get into another business. You shouldn't be relying for the Government to bail you out every year, so your kids can hang out with the pigs & goats.
You seem to think a 4 gen farm is quaint and time has passed by…in reality your net search still doesn’t give you facts. Farmers children not only use agricultural degrees, engineering, water management, and financial background. Larger farms usually have Large Animal veterinarians, in family.
Comment on pigs and goats, definitely shows little knowledge. Farm to Slaughter are a different breed of farm altogether. Goat farming is small boutique for milk and cheese. Baby Goats cute, adult are just mean.
One Family Dairy farm is Second largest producer in their state, the other Dairy is 4th largest. Third farm still produces tobacco, at 300 acres is considered boutique.
Fourth farm has a dedicated building with fully operational Operating Room, recovery and rehabilitation equipped with an indoor therapy pool. Family scholarship donations to help small farm kids is rewarding. You don’t just survive to 4 gens without highly educated, family and management.
Topspinmo
04-20-2025, 11:42 AM
If farms couldn't make money, we'd all starve, because no one would farm.
Small farms may have trouble making money these days, for just the same reason you don't see Mom & Pop Grocery Stores or Stationary Stores or Cobblers ... they're not efficient and don't make money..
The idea of small, 4th generation family farms is quaint and nostalgic, but time has passed them by.
& to satisfy the folks that still like the idea of small, 4th Generation farms, the USA government is throwing billions at them. There are some strategic reasons for supporting farms, but in general, if you can't make a living at it, get into another business. You shouldn't be relying for the Government to bail you out every year, so your kids can hang out with the pigs & goats.
Another program that’s need’s drastically funds cut. You can go to any county in fly over states and see millions paid out in farm subsidies. Most are not small farms. I grew in in farming community use here farm boys whine about no money when they have new trucks, tractors, combines, houses, and paying minimum wage to farm hand while collecting farm subsidies.
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