Unsafe, inconsiderate, vulgar driver at Magnolia Plaza

[villager7591]

Crossing the street from SafeShip to where my cart was parked, a man in a white SUV determined he wanted a specific parking spot. So he turned behind me, GOING THE WRONG WAY, so he could park in 'his' spot. I pointed my index finger in the opposite way he was going, indicating that he was going the wrong way. So he gives me THE FINGER. Vulgar, inconsiderate, as well as unsafe.
So when I am backing out of my parking spot, a woman in a golf cart almost hits me. She was doing the same thing...going against the flow/direction of traffic, as directed by the arrows.

Is this ultimate entitlement by Villagers ? You are unsafe. Follow the rules that the rest of us (most of us) follow. When you don't, you are endangering all others.

[Taltarzac725]

Crossing the street from SafeShip to where my cart was parked, a man in a white SUV determined he wanted a specific parking spot. So he turned behind me, GOING THE WRONG WAY, so he could park in 'his' spot. I pointed my index finger in the opposite way he was going, indicating that he was going the wrong way. So he gives me THE FINGER. Vulgar, inconsiderate, as well as unsafe.
So when I am backing out of my parking spot, a woman in a golf cart almost hits me. She was doing the same thing...going against the flow/direction of traffic, as directed by the arrows.

Is this ultimate entitlement by Villagers ? You are unsafe. Follow the rules that the rest of us (most of us) follow. When you don't, you are endangering all others.

A lot of that going on. And almost no one is going the speed limit here in the Villages ' residential streets .

[GpaVader]

It happens all over and it's not just Villagers.

[Gpsma]

Perhaps stop being the traffic police…or join the sheriffs dept. all u had to do was pull out and not be a sanctimonious villager having to point out he was not going down the correct lne

[Bill14564]

Perhaps stop being the traffic police…or join the sheriffs dept. all u had to do was pull out and not be a sanctimonious villager having to point out he was not going down the correct lne

Reading is ......

The OP was almost hit by someone disregarding the flow of traffic.

It seems almost neighborly to explain the meaning of those white arrows in the lanes to a confused, elderly driver.

[JohnN]

Lot of that going on everywhere.
My motto "watch them all, all the time" whether walking or driving.
I don't get into it with people, half of 'em are probably carrying and waitin' to get into it.
~peace~

[tophcfa]

Go figure, most of the snowflakes and snowbirds are gone, must be those dam year rounders.

[Stu from NYC]

Go figure, most of the snowflakes and snowbirds are gone, must be those dam year rounders.

Impossible

[Topspinmo]

Typical villager imported driver. The rare ones obey traffic signs and laws.

[Topspinmo]

Go figure, most of the snowflakes and snowbirds are gone, must be those dam year rounders.


And we’re do you think we year rounders came from?

[Topspinmo]

Reading is ......

The OP was almost hit by someone disregarding the flow of traffic.

It seems almost neighborly to explain the meaning of those white arrows in the lanes to a confused, elderly driver.


Lazy don’t care they get closed spot at all costs.

[Topspinmo]

Perhaps stop being the traffic police…or join the sheriffs dept. all u had to do was pull out and not be a sanctimonious villager having to point out he was not going down the correct lne

agree not worth getting shot over:spoken:

[villager7591]

Point is: he knew he was going wrong way but had NO consideration for anyone else. He wanted his parking spot.

[shut the front door]

Perhaps stop being the traffic police…or join the sheriffs dept. all u had to do was pull out and not be a sanctimonious villager having to point out he was not going down the correct lne

And OP is required to look BOTH ways before backing out of a parking space.

[Bill14564]

And OP is required to look BOTH ways before backing out of a parking space.

And apparently did. Just like I look BOTH ways before crossing a one-way street. But I do that out of habit and not because I should anticipate someone driving the wrong way.

[patfla06]

People are entitled and inconsiderate. Sad and getting worse.

[VApeople]

So when I am backing out of my parking spot, a woman in a golf cart almost hits me. She was doing the same thing...going against the flow/direction of traffic, as directed by the arrows.


It was your fault. You should have parked in a pull-thru spot.

We never - and I mean NEVER - park in a spot that requires us to back up in order to leave.

[Bill14564]

It was your fault. You should have parked in a pull-thru spot.

We never - and I mean NEVER - park in a spot that requires us to back up in order to leave.

So you never - and I mean NEVER - shop at Grand Traverse or Pinellas plazas?

[Boffin]

Welcome to the swamp.

[VApeople]

So you never - and I mean NEVER - shop at Grand Traverse or Pinellas plazas?

Yes, we shop at both of these places and always park in pull-thru spots or we back into a parking spot.

[Bill14564]

Yes, we shop at both of these places and always park in pull-thru spots or we back into a parking spot.

:what:

[Rzepecki]

IMO it doesn’t matter how other people are acting. It’s up to you to take care of you.

[Ignatz]

Yes, we shop at both of these places and always park in pull-thru spots or we back into a parking spot.

Hmmmm….

[USOTR]

It's not until they are involved in a wreck and then face law suits that can change their lifestyle and put a lien on there house, do they care. But I for one do not want to be the replicant of one of their entitlement and I don't care to fallow the rules wrecks, that cripple's me up.

I think we need to complain to the Sheriff departments and Villages security for more enforcement.

[golfing eagles]

It's not until they are involved in a wreck and then face law suits that can change their lifestyle and put a lien on there house, do they care. But I for one do not want to be the replicant of one of their entitlement and I don't care to fallow the rules wrecks, that cripple's me up.

I think we need to complain to the Sheriff departments and Villages security for more enforcement.

I agree that the person's actions were selfish and careless, but......In Florida, lawsuits generally cannot take away your primary residence, your retirement savings or college savings, unless there is malicious intent. Furthermore, this was a private property parking lot, so complain all you want to the sheriff, but I doubt they have the ability to "enforce" an arrow painted on the pavement there.

[jim@jedward.com]

Take a hike. You come across a couple of jerks in a parking lot and you automatically apply the behavior to all villagers?

[Rainger99]

Crossing the street from SafeShip to where my cart was parked, a man in a white SUV determined he wanted a specific parking spot. So he turned behind me, GOING THE WRONG WAY, so he could park in 'his' spot. I pointed my index finger in the opposite way he was going, indicating that he was going the wrong way. So he gives me THE FINGER. Vulgar, inconsiderate, as well as unsafe.
So when I am backing out of my parking spot, a woman in a golf cart almost hits me. She was doing the same thing...going against the flow/direction of traffic, as directed by the arrows.

Is this ultimate entitlement by Villagers ? You are unsafe. Follow the rules that the rest of us (most of us) follow. When you don't, you are endangering all others.

Do you think that this only happens in the Villages? I saw a lot of bad drivers before moving to the Villages.
And they were usually on highways - not driving 5 mph in a parking lot.

[jojoturf]

Magnolia Plaza vehicle traffic is out of control. It’s not large enough to accommodate the explosive housing growth south of that plaza.

[Brskinner]

Unfortunately there are immature people where ever you live
What goes around comes around
Be patient and kind

[coffeebean]

It was your fault. You should have parked in a pull-thru spot.

We never - and I mean NEVER - park in a spot that requires us to back up in order to leave.

Same here. I always pull through when ever there are pull through spots available in a lot. I will walk further just to get a pull through spot.The smaller lots don't have those pull through spots.

[golfing eagles]

Crossing the street from SafeShip to where my cart was parked, a man in a white SUV determined he wanted a specific parking spot. So he turned behind me, GOING THE WRONG WAY, so he could park in 'his' spot. I pointed my index finger in the opposite way he was going, indicating that he was going the wrong way. So he gives me THE FINGER. Vulgar, inconsiderate, as well as unsafe.
So when I am backing out of my parking spot, a woman in a golf cart almost hits me. She was doing the same thing...going against the flow/direction of traffic, as directed by the arrows.

Is this ultimate entitlement by Villagers ? You are unsafe. Follow the rules that the rest of us (most of us) follow. When you don't, you are endangering all others.

Question: If he turned into the parking space BEHIND you, how were you in any danger? Or was it his finger that was "unsafe"??? Perhaps he took exception to your role as "enforcer of the painted aisle arrows in the parking lots". I am not defending him, per se, but I can see how he might have become irritated.

[Taltarzac725]

Question: If he turned into the parking space BEHIND you, how were you in any danger? Or was it his finger that was "unsafe"??? Perhaps he took exception to your role as "enforcer of the painted aisle arrows in the parking lots". I am not defending him, per se, but I can see how he might have become irritated.

I have seen some shouting matches with cars backed up when someone goes up the down lane in the Publix parking lot . I do think they need cameras covering their parking lots unless they already have them but do not advertise that.

[Bogie Shooter]

Yes, we shop at both of these places and always park in pull-thru spots or we back into a parking spot.

Now this is very confusing……..

[golfing eagles]

I have seen some shouting matches with cars backed up when someone goes up the down lane in the Publix parking lot . I do think they need cameras covering their parking lots unless they already have them but do not advertise that.

What use would the cameras be since nobody is going to do anything about it?

[Taltarzac725]

What use would the cameras be since nobody is going to do anything about it?

If lawyers see a way to make a buck....

[Zenmama18]

Lot of that going on everywhere.
My motto "watch them all, all the time" whether walking or driving.
I don't get into it with people, half of 'em are probably carrying and waitin' to get into it.
~peace~

If they shoot like they drive it may not be a problem.

[Justputt]

Is this ultimate entitlement by Villagers ? You are unsafe. Follow the rules that the rest of us (most of us) follow. When you don't, you are endangering all others.

None of this is new. People cut across parking lanes, go the "wrong way", park facing the wrong direction, but usually do it safely; i.e. giving right-of-way to those that have it. I don't see a problem. Parking lot markings are guides and may provide you with help or hindrance if you are hit or hit someone. Late at night it's common to see someone start to park and move across lanes when they see a spot closer, or in the daytime, when they start to park and see a shady spot a lane or two over. Again, I don't have a problem if done safely.

[villager7591]

Question: If he turned into the parking space BEHIND you, how were you in any danger? Or was it his finger that was "unsafe"??? Perhaps he took exception to your role as "enforcer of the painted aisle arrows in the parking lots". I am not defending him, per se, but I can see how he might have become irritated.

My goal was to alert him to his behavior. Why are rules for everyone except him? He is putting everyone at risk with his behavior.
I was not an enforcer: I was simple crossing the parking lot.

[villager7591]

It was your fault. You should have parked in a pull-thru spot.

We never - and I mean NEVER - park in a spot that requires us to back up in order to leave.

Spot I parked in was against the median (no pull thru).

[Stu from NYC]

Same here. I always pull through when ever there are pull through spots available in a lot. I will walk further just to get a pull through spot.The smaller lots don't have those pull through spots.

I will do the same whenever possible. Little extra walking never hurts

[DonH57]

Crossing the street from SafeShip to where my cart was parked, a man in a white SUV determined he wanted a specific parking spot. So he turned behind me, GOING THE WRONG WAY, so he could park in 'his' spot. I pointed my index finger in the opposite way he was going, indicating that he was going the wrong way. So he gives me THE FINGER. Vulgar, inconsiderate, as well as unsafe.
So when I am backing out of my parking spot, a woman in a golf cart almost hits me. She was doing the same thing...going against the flow/direction of traffic, as directed by the arrows.

Is this ultimate entitlement by Villagers ? You are unsafe. Follow the rules that the rest of us (most of us) follow. When you don't, you are endangering all others.

I believe the people who do this have lost the skill to safely back their vehicle because they can't see who or what's behind them. Watch some pull out of the driveway and don't even see traffic coming up the street and they are not about to stop for anyone. Part of the parking lot follies here in the Villages!:shrug:

[merrymini]

Would we be in trouble if everybody pulled in backwards into parking spaces! A great many cannot even drive well going forward! Most spots in parking lots are not pull through and rudeness has become a part of our culture, seemingly in every way. Rude, inconsiderate and selfish and taking from the people who obey the rules. If this keeps up, we may have to sleep with a gun under our pillows.

[JohnN]

Would we be in trouble if everybody pulled in backwards into parking spaces!

In my working days for a big company, it was mandated that you back into a parking place. The reason was that at the end-of-shift, it was like the Indy 500 with people racing to leave. Security dept. felt it was safer to not have folks backing out slowly. I always look for a spot I can pull-through or if traffic is light, back into. I'll frequently park farther out to find one and let the "old folks" (LOL, that's me now) have the closer in spots.

[Ptmcbriz]

No need to point out he was going the wrong way. He already knew that. Pointing out the obvious would be a trigger for that type of person. Do it and expect the same reaction next time, because that’s how they are. Life is too short. Allow them to be and you go on ignoring their idiocy and enjoy your day.

[MicRoDrafting]

Lot of that going on everywhere.
My motto "watch them all, all the time" whether walking or driving.
I don't get into it with people, half of 'em are probably carrying and waitin' to get into it.
~peace~
STRONGLY AGREE …
Definitely NOT JUST in the Villages.

WHY that I am oh so Grateful that mom taught me to be a “Defensive Driver” when first began using the road.

BASICALLY anybody and everyone around me IS capable of doing something Dangerous that may cause an Accident without Notice and in a Split Second …

… SO I should Constantly be Aware of my Surroundings and Stay Fully Alert - and Guarded !!

OF COURSE this also MUST be
Applied when I am a Pedestrian.

WE cannot prevent the Behavior of others, and Definitely should NOT instigate the “unhealthy” Drivers Actions

AND unfortunately
the passengers are
collateral damage

[kingofbeer]

Crossing the street from SafeShip to where my cart was parked, a man in a white SUV determined he wanted a specific parking spot. So he turned behind me, GOING THE WRONG WAY, so he could park in 'his' spot. I pointed my index finger in the opposite way he was going, indicating that he was going the wrong way. So he gives me THE FINGER. Vulgar, inconsiderate, as well as unsafe.
So when I am backing out of my parking spot, a woman in a golf cart almost hits me. She was doing the same thing...going against the flow/direction of traffic, as directed by the arrows.

Is this ultimate entitlement by Villagers ? You are unsafe. Follow the rules that the rest of us (most of us) follow. When you don't, you are endangering all others.
They are lazy

[Joe C.]

Signs in public parking lots are basically a 'guide' for drivers. They help when there is a lot of traffic. However, they are not enforceable by the police or the Villages security. That goes for stop signs as well .....except for the ones at the perimeter of the lot where you exit onto the street.

The parking lot in Spanish Springs at Publix has one way arrows in the lanes, whereas the lot in Spanish Plaines has bi-directional arrows in each lane.
Go figure.

[CarlR33]

In my working days for a big company, it was mandated that you back into a parking place. The reason was that at the end-of-shift, it was like the Indy 500 with people racing to leave. Security dept. felt it was safer to not have folks backing out slowly. I always look for a spot I can pull-through or if traffic is light, back into. I'll frequently park farther out to find one and let the "old folks" (LOL, that's me now) have the closer in spots.Yes, most companies mandate this with the exception of a diagonal spot. If you back or pull through a diagonal spot you will end up leaving going the wrong way out.

[fdpaq0580]

Now this is very confusing……..

I know. Beware of those people. 😉

[gorillarick]

"agree not worth getting shot over"

Cowardly? FL laws are pretty specific that your life has to be threatened before a concealed carry can leave your pocket. And then warmed that you will use it. Or, go to jail for murder.

If someone is acting like an ahole in a parking lot, or traffic; they deserve to be told.

[fdpaq0580]

Everybody is is distracted, inconsiderate, just plain stupid, or out to get you! The only good drivers are you and me. And sometimes I'm not sure about you. 😉
Always be careful!

[shut the front door]

It's not until they are involved in a wreck and then face law suits that can change their lifestyle and put a lien on there house, do they care. But I for one do not want to be the replicant of one of their entitlement and I don't care to fallow the rules wrecks, that cripple's me up.

I think we need to complain to the Sheriff departments and Villages security for more enforcement.

You might want to get educated on FL law. Your house and retirement cannot be taken in a lawsuit.

[Rainger99]

"agree not worth getting shot over"

If someone is acting like an ahole in a parking lot, or traffic; they deserve to be told.

That could take up a lot of one’s time down here.

[JohnN]

If someone is acting like an ahole in a parking lot, or traffic; they deserve to be told.

Momma told me
"never argue with idiots, they'll bring you down to their level and overwhelm you with numbers"

[Jokomo]

Perhaps stop being the traffic police…or join the sheriffs dept. all u had to do was pull out and not be a sanctimonious villager having to point out he was not going down the correct lne

It’s hard to understand this point of view. Why enable bad and dangerous behavior by remaining silent?

[jimhoward]

The OP mentions using an index finger to point the scoundrel in the right direction. He or she may not have seen that as an index finger.

[kendi]

Crossing the street from SafeShip to where my cart was parked, a man in a white SUV determined he wanted a specific parking spot. So he turned behind me, GOING THE WRONG WAY, so he could park in 'his' spot. I pointed my index finger in the opposite way he was going, indicating that he was going the wrong way. So he gives me THE FINGER. Vulgar, inconsiderate, as well as unsafe.
So when I am backing out of my parking spot, a woman in a golf cart almost hits me. She was doing the same thing...going against the flow/direction of traffic, as directed by the arrows.

Is this ultimate entitlement by Villagers ? You are unsafe. Follow the rules that the rest of us (most of us) follow. When you don't, you are endangering all others.

Let it go. Spread kindness and peace, leave the bitterness behind.

[jimhoward]

For those who back into their parking spots, don't you need to go down the aisle against the arrows because of the way the spots are angled in Magnolia Plaza?

If so, it doesn't phase me in the slightest, I was just curious.

[golfing eagles]

My goal was to alert him to his behavior. Why are rules for everyone except him? He is putting everyone at risk with his behavior.
I was not an enforcer: I was simple crossing the parking lot.

So, an informer, not an enforcer. I’ll bet that distinction was lost on “Mr, Middle Finger”😂😂😂

[golfing eagles]

If lawyers see a way to make a buck....

Which probably would only apply with substantial physical injury, unlikely in a parking lot

[VApeople]

For those who back into their parking spots, don't you need to go down the aisle against the arrows because of the way the spots are angled in Magnolia Plaza?


No.

I drive down the aisle the way the arrows indicate until I see a spot that I can drive thru and park.

After I finish shopping, I pull out of the spot, following the arrows.

Actually, we do most of our shopping at Lake Deaton Plaza which has parking just like Magnolia.

[jimjamuser]

A lot of that going on. And almost no one is going the speed limit here in the Villages ' residential streets .
Going over the speed limit IS a very bad thing. But, even worse, is golf carts going DIFFERENT speeds. Some going the speed limit of 20 MPH. Some carts going 30 or even 40 MPH. Then there is the problem of cars, trucks, and golf carts NOT stopping for stop signs. Why are RETIRED people so anxious to get somewhere when they have no need to be so HYPER-ACTIVE.

[jimjamuser]

The main problem is that no one worries about getting a ticket because there are so little Police presence. Older people NEED the PROTECTION of more Police presence. They can become victims from both younger criminals and from older bad drivers. Also, with the heavy alcohol consumption at the squares, traffic accidents increase.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Same here. I always pull through when ever there are pull through spots available in a lot. I will walk further just to get a pull through spot.The smaller lots don't have those pull through spots.

When I was working at the utility company, we were mandated to back into all parking sports, or pull through, at all times during work hours, and in company parking lots. It was a safety behavior.

When you work in dangerous industries where safety is a high priority, or lives are easily lost, one generally follows alot of safety rules, and they become ingrained in your life afterwards.

[jimhoward]

No.

I drive down the aisle the way the arrows indicate until I see a spot that I can drive thru and park.

After I finish shopping, I pull out of the spot, following the arrows.

Actually, we do most of our shopping at Lake Deaton Plaza which has parking just like Magnolia.

That is simple enough with a pull through. It’s the backing in part where the geometry confused me. I guess it must be a sort of u-turn back up to get into the spot that is angled away from you. That takes a lot more driving skill than I have.

Personally I just park in Timbuktu.

[golfing eagles]

Going over the speed limit IS a very bad thing. But, even worse, is golf carts going DIFFERENT speeds. Some going the speed limit of 20 MPH. Some carts going 30 or even 40 MPH. Then there is the problem of cars, trucks, and golf carts NOT stopping for stop signs. Why are RETIRED people so anxious to get somewhere when they have no need to be so HYPER-ACTIVE.

Yep, it's HORRIBLE!!! Especially golf carts going 20.1 mph or a car doing 35.1 on BV. Summary execution is warranted!!!!

PS---11.5 years in TV, 28,000 miles on my cart, and I'm STILL waiting to see a golf cart going 40. I MAYBE, MAYBE once saw one going 30. Yep, let's get more police, more tickets---let's find that one guy going 40!!!!. And for every car that doesn't stop at a stop sign, there are 50 cyclists blowing through it.

[Whatnext]

What a lot of dressing on a nothing burger!

[Taltarzac725]

Yep, it's HORRIBLE!!! Especially golf carts going 20.1 mph or a car doing 35.1 on BV. Summary execution is warranted!!!!

PS---11.5 years in TV, 28,000 miles on my cart, and I'm STILL waiting to see a golf cart going 40. I MAYBE, MAYBE once saw one going 30. Yep, let's get more police, more tickets---let's find that one guy going 40!!!!. And for every car that doesn't stop at a stop sign, there are 50 cyclists blowing through it.

I saw one golf cart zip by at 45 mph here in Lynnhaven. It zipped right by me. We have been here almost twenty years.

[VApeople]

It’s the backing in part where the geometry confused me.

Of course, I don't back in if there are angled parking spaces.

For example, at Trailwinds there is no angled parking for ABC Liquor or Booger King. In those cases, I find a spot away from the other cars and back into it.

[DennisfromMinnesota]

Oops, that might’ve been me?! Dupuytren contracture‘s been acting up lately. I’m a bit older and appendages just don’t straighten up like they used to. My bad.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

For those who back into their parking spots, don't you need to go down the aisle against the arrows because of the way the spots are angled in Magnolia Plaza?

If so, it doesn't phase me in the slightest, I was just curious.

Driving an F250 medium bed is slightly longer than the spaces. So heading parking, the bed sticks out beyond the end of the lines. I have gotten parking love notes when I pull in so that the bed is NOT sticking out into the driving lane, and the front is into the other parking spot.

So the easiest is to park way out at the ends and pull through. . hence the pull through comment.