More new houses near 466...

[villages07]

Yes, that was 466, not 466A.

I've seen passing reference in the paper about plans to amend boundaries of CDD9. CDD9 is generally south of 466A and the eastern half of new development between 466A and 44.

But, this amendment, to be voted on by Sumter County Commissioners tonight, amends CDD9 to include approx 62 acres just south of 466 and East of Morse Blvd (roughly across from Sante Fe shopping plaza and where cows now roam).

These 62 acres will hold 335 homes. Infrastructure will be built this year. Does not include a detailed homesite or street plan.

This area was once rumored to be a hotel site. I guess, and this is only my opinion, the developer is finding it more expedient and perhaps more profitable to build and sell houses rather than more commercial development.

There was also a little blurb in the paper that Lady Lake town council rezoned a parcel across 466 from the LaZamora gate to be commercial...no tenants identified as yet but some discussion of convenience store or restaurant.

Here's a link to Sumter county commissioner meeting agenda:

http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/agendas.aspx?AGID=155

[skyguy79]

But, this amendment, to be voted on by Sumter County Commissioners tonight, amends CDD9 to include approx 62 acres just south of 466 and East of Morse Blvd (roughly across from Sante Fe shopping plaza and where cows now roam).

Is that where the circle on Morris is that has an exit to nowhere on the east side just before reaching 446 northbound? http://club4g.org/board/images/smilies/car-smiley-003.gif

[graciegirl]

Yes, that was 466, not 466A.

I've seen passing reference in the paper about plans to amend boundaries of CDD9. CDD9 is generally south of 466A and the eastern half of new development between 466A and 44.

But, this amendment, to be voted on by Sumter County Commissioners tonight, amends CDD9 to include approx 62 acres just south of 466 and East of Morse Blvd (roughly across from Sante Fe shopping plaza and where cows now roam).

These 62 acres will hold 335 homes. Infrastructure will be built this year. Does not include a detailed homesite or street plan.

This area was once rumored to be a hotel site. I guess, and this is only my opinion, the developer is finding it more expedient and perhaps more profitable to build and sell houses rather than more commercial development.

There was also a little blurb in the paper that Lady Lake town council rezoned a parcel across 466 from the LaZamora gate to be commercial...no tenants identified as yet but some discussion of convenience store or restaurant.

Here's a link to Sumter county commissioner meeting agenda:

http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/agendas.aspx?AGID=155

Premiers will be built there. They are selling new Premiers, (not so much the used ones) and they haven't got a new place to put the Premiers until the area south of 466A is finished.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

This is different than the Laurel Valley group of premiers that's west of Morse on the south side of 466, right? Where the streets are already getting put in, etc......

Bill

[SALYBOW]

This sounds like it it off the roundabout at Morse where the street Mission Hills Starts and goes no where. Just My Guess

[villages07]

Gracie...this is different from the area halfway between Morse and BV (i.e. Laurel Valley).

This site is east of Morse on 466 (going towards Rolling Acres Rd)

335 homes on 62 acres implies designers or a mix of designer/villa/cottages.

Yes, this is the area just off that last roundabout on Morse before 466. It'll be interesting to see if that road is extended to the new homes, because, then it would cross the multimodal path and require a gate house vs putting the road access on 466.

[graciegirl]

Oops. Wasn't paying attention. I think we passed an area under construction there and I wondered if it was another builder. Are they moving dirt there?

Thanks for keeping us up 07!

[Mikeod]

Isn't that the area that a few years ago was getting soil dumped in to "restore" it to its prior natural state?

[graciegirl]

Village 07...Did you read this in the legal notices this morning.?

"The Village Center Community Development District intends to amend and restate Chapter 10 of its Rule To Bring About Deed Compliance in the town of Lady Lake portion of the Villagage. ("Rule") and impose fines for violation therof. Per Section 190.012(4((a), Florida Statutes, the District has been granted the authority to adopt rules necessary for the District to enforce certain existing deed restrictions pertaining to the external use and appearance of real property.....etc...."

What do you think that means?

[Bogie Shooter]

Village 07...Did you read this in the legal notices this morning.?

"The Village Center Community Development District intends to amend and restate Chapter 10 of its Rule To Bring About Deed Compliance in the town of Lady Lake portion of the Villagage. ("Rule") and impose fines for violation therof. Per Section 190.012(4((a), Florida Statutes, the District has been granted the authority to adopt rules necessary for the District to enforce certain existing deed restrictions pertaining to the external use and appearance of real property.....etc...."

What do you think that means?

The deed restrictions will now be enforced by the VCCDD.

[iaudit]

I predict that the Polo Grounds and surrounding area will eventually be the location of another village after build out and when the developer moves on to Texas.

[ricthemic]

I predict that the Polo Grounds and surrounding area will eventually be the location of another village after build out and when the developer moves on to Texas.

I am probably missing something. Does the above post and others mean the area north of 466 and east of Polo Ridge?

[graciegirl]

The deed restrictions will now be enforced by the VCCDD.

You mean they will have to remove the dog statues that are um...wetting on the fire hydrant?

[iaudit]

I am probably missing something. Does the above post and others mean the area north of 466 and east of Polo Ridge?

The original post refers to something that is going to actually happen. If you are heading north on Morse Blvd. leaving Sumter Landing, it is the area to your right and across the street (south) from the Church located on Rt. 466.

My statement about the Polo Grounds area is just a prediction on my part that the developer will fill in open areas after final build out. If you think it is tough to get a tee time for a group now, wait until after final build out. When he moves on to Texas for his next development, there will be no need for the Polo Grounds, which I am sure is not used enough to support itself.

[Pturner]

V07,
Thanks for the information. The county commission resolution to approve the change is amusingly uninformative as to why it was requested. The resolution states (I added the bold):

WHEREAS, the Board of County Commissioners established the Village Community Development District No. 9 (“District”) by Ordinance 04-37 and amended the District by Ordinance 2010-08; and
WHEREAS, in the process of going forward with development activities it has come to the attention of the developer that additional changes are necessary in the boundary and to add 62.09acres.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the Board of County Commissioners of Sumter County...

"It has come to the attention of the developer that additional changes are necessary"? :mornincoffee:

Um... Translation
Gary to Sumter County: :spoken:

[Hawkwind]

My statement about the Polo Grounds area is just a prediction on my part that the developer will fill in open areas after final build out. If you think it is tough to get a tee time for a group now, wait until after final build out. When he moves on to Texas for his next development, there will be no need for the Polo Grounds, which I am sure is not used enough to support itself.

The land east of the polo grounds is not owned by the developer as far as I can tell from looking at the county web site. The polo grounds also show up as a drive in theater is you look at the owner information.

[graciegirl]

I wonder if

the residents could vote on the issue...

IF the area now used as a Polo Field would remain if the choice was;

A. The current use, A Polo Field and gathering place.
B. An indoor workout area and indoor pool.

Just thought I'd start something...:D

[73Goat]

Any guesses as to how long it would be before TV would actually offer homes for sale in that area? It looks to be quite a ways off to me.

How fast do they put infrastructure in and develop lots in this area?

In another life I was a builder in Texas and the development laws were very builder 'friendly'. We could go from raw dirt (like farmland) to infrastructure (streets, sewers, utilities) and would be selling homes in 6 months. In the DC area it takes years to do the same because of all the regulations and development laws.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

73goat - In looking through some of the detail in the docs for their meeting last night, it was noted that the various pieces of the infrastructure (site prep, drainage, sewers, water, etc.) would be done in "2011". Literally, that was the timeframe noted for each individual part of the breakdown. Pretty open-ended. I'd guess it'll be next year sometime before any houses start popping up there.

Bill

[zcaveman]

You mean they will have to remove the dog statues that are um...wetting on the fire hydrant?

No - it means that they are having a meeting to finalize the fine structure for that district. If you look in today's paper they are doing that for all of the districts on the north side.

They are not going to change the current deed restrictions to include no lawn ornaments in places that can have lawn ornaments.

But they will now issue monetary fines for violations of the deed restrictions that are in effect.

These monetary fines are listed at www.districtgov.org:

http://www.districtgov.org/departments/Community-Standards/community-standards.aspx

Hope this helps.

Z

[Chopper]

If you look through those agenda documents from last night's meeting (pages 271 - 279), you will also see preliminary plans for a two-story Villages Assisted Living Facility that is to be built north of County Road 466A in the area that is designated as Flagler Plaza on The Villages street map.

[golf2140]

I predict that the Polo Grounds and surrounding area will eventually be the location of another village after build out and when the developer moves on to Texas.

The family has been building TV for 40 to 50 years. They have never torn down a facility to build more homes. :boom:

[barb1191]

I wonder if

the residents could vote on the issue...

IF the area now used as a Polo Field would remain if the choice was;

A. The current use, A Polo Field and gathering place.
B. An indoor workout area and indoor pool.

Just thought I'd start something...:D

"B" sounds good to me, GG.....b

[English Ivy]

If you look through those agenda documents from last night's meeting (pages 271 - 279), you will also see preliminary plans for a two-story Villages Assisted Living Facility that is to be built north of County Road 466A in the area that is designated as Flagler Plaza on The Villages street map.

I wonder if the people in the homes in Duval that back up to Flagler Plaza know what's coming in their backyards? There is a concrete wall that separates the area but it's sure not going to hide a two story building.

Also thought it was interesting that when I "Googled" the name of the developer for this project "GTMJ Investment Group", guess where it led me back to ... 1020 Lake Sumter Landing The Villages FL, the address for the developer and all their aliases.

[Chopper]

The Villages Polo Club is no longer owned by the developer so I don't think it will ever turn into a residential area. It was sold last year, but I can't remember the name of the new owner.

[swrinfla]

You know what bothers me?

I am really concerned that any posts here will end up being totally blown away because of unnecessarily strict comments!

True, it's a matter of age, I'm afraid!!!!!!

SWR
:beer3:

[Larry Wilson]

The way I understand it, this is private property and not part of The Villages or our amenities. Yes, a couple years ago, they got rid of all the locals and put the Polo in the hands of a professional management company to make money. The management did not do well. I could write a book on what really happened. The Morse family did not do right by many people. But that is another whole story. ( No, I will not debate this statement...too complicated, people lost their jobs, promises were broken) So now they have moved a great guy and professional Polo player into managing their Polo seasons. He is doing a great job and numbers are back up.
I seriously doubt if they would ever build on the Polo fields as these fields are very expensive to build and many family members and friends enjoy playing Polo. Plus they are part of the family compound with beautiful ranches, beautiful homes and 4 more practice Polo fields.
So folks, that's my understanding and back to basketball. Gotta watch Duke and UNC.

[Chopper]

Larry,

Thanks for setting the record straight regarding the Polo Club. It obviously was just a management change and not a change in ownership. But, I agree that it will probably never be turned in to a residential area.

[Pturner]

You know what bothers me?

I am really concerned that any posts here will end up being totally blown away because of unnecessarily strict comments!

True, it's a matter of age, I'm afraid!!!!!!

SWR
:beer3:

Hi Swrinfla,
I don't understand your meaning. But I always respect your opinions and usually agree. Would you mind rephrasing?

[graciegirl]

You know what bothers me?

I am really concerned that any posts here will end up being totally blown away because of unnecessarily strict comments!

True, it's a matter of age, I'm afraid!!!!!!

SWR
:beer3:

Dear SWR....Like P, (and I do TRY to be like P,) Like P, I don't understand either and also like her, I always enjoy and take to heart what you say.

Could you tell us more?

[Army Guy]

I wonder if the people in the homes in Duval that back up to Flagler Plaza know what's coming in their backyards? There is a concrete wall that separates the area but it's sure not going to hide a two story building.

Also thought it was interesting that when I "Googled" the name of the developer for this project "GTMJ Investment Group", guess where it led me back to ... 1020 Lake Sumter Landing The Villages FL, the address for the developer and all their aliases.

Another reason why when we were looking to buy, we only wanted to look at villas with established things already built around it. No surprises that way!

Army Guy

[Chopper]

Since Flagler Plaza was to be a commercial development, probably with several stores, I would think that the Villages Assisted Living Facility would be preferable. There should be a lot less noise and automobile activity in the area. I think if our home backed up to that wall, I would prefer the assisted living facility.

If you look at the preliminary plans for the assisted living facility, there is still a large area of Flagler Plaza to be developed. Maybe it will turn out be be used for some additional medical facilities such as doctor offices. Only time will tell.

[spk7951]

Since Flagler Plaza was to be a commercial development, probably with several stores, I would think that the Villages Assisted Living Facility would be preferable. There should be a lot less noise and automobile activity in the area. I think if our home backed up to that wall, I would prefer the assisted living facility.

If you look at the preliminary plans for the assisted living facility, there is still a large area of Flagler Plaza to be developed. Maybe it will turn out be be used for some additional medical facilities such as doctor offices. Only time will tell.

When we first looked at buying in that area we were told that parcel was slated for "professional offices" and not commercial. But the county currently shows it with a use description of "Vacant Residential".

[Army Guy]

Chopper, I understand but, there is a big downside to that also. They just built a new Assisted Living not far from our Alabama home, and the people around it hate it! First, all the high intensity lights outside and around in the parking lot. Night is now day for them, and the worst is the increase in ambulance noise.

Army Guy

[Chopper]

Army Guy,

I never thought about about the ambulance noise. That could get to be a bit annoying. As for the lights, I thought any commercial or professional plaza would also have a lot of lighting. Maybe since the entrance is under a canopy in the front, they will not have a lot of intrusive lights toward the rear of the facility. At least the traffic should be less, especially in the evening hours.

[Bogie Shooter]

Ambulance noise should not be that significant of an issue, we all hear sirens night and day.

[bike42]

They just built a new Assisted Living not far from our Alabama home, and the people around it hate it! First, all the high intensity lights outside and around in the parking lot. Night is now day for them, and the worst is the increase in ambulance noise.

For The Villages-style assisted living facility, go and take a look at Homewood/Freedom Pointe (across from the hospital, between the nursing care facility and the independent living apartments.) It is beautiful, quiet, with the same trees and landscaping we expect everywhere in TV, no bright lights and when ambulances need to come, they do not use sirens.

Don't be a NIMBY -- most of us will need assisted living someday.

[Army Guy]

For The Villages-style assisted living facility, go and take a look at Homewood/Freedom Pointe (across from the hospital, between the nursing care facility and the independent living apartments.) It is beautiful, quiet, with the same trees and landscaping we expect everywhere in TV, no bright lights and when ambulances need to come, they do not use sirens.

Don't be a NIMBY -- most of us will need assisted living someday.

AGREE!

Army Guy

[skip0358]

Was up on Morse Blvd by Hacienda Hills Country Club the other day. Noticed survey work going on in the big empty field accross from HHH country club. Don't know but maybe more homes going in. That's another large empty parcel.

[swimdawg]

I wonder if

the residents could vote on the issue...

IF the area now used as a Polo Field would remain if the choice was;

A. The current use, A Polo Field and gathering place.
B. An indoor workout area and indoor pool.

Just thought I'd start something...:D

Bring on that indoor pool. The sooner the better! :wave:

[Mudder]

an indoor pool is totally unnecessary in this part of Florida. When is it going to be used? Three days in January maybe.

[barb1191]

an indoor pool is totally unnecessary in this part of Florida. When is it going to be used? Three days in January maybe.

How many winters have you spent here in TV?

[Hancle704]

Have looked in Daily Sun Construction Updates and see no mention of work at site located on southside of CR 466 just west of the Villages Charter School. any idea about what is being built there?

[skip0358]

Heard thru the grapevine it's going to be a pre school.Don't know for certain but I guess it would complete the program. Pre thru graduation. Makes sense.

[Pturner]

I vote for the polo fields. Not that we get a vote. :icon_wink:

[lcmca]

WHEN I CAME HERE THAT AREA WAS UNDER WATER AND WHERE I CAME FROM IT WAS ILLEGAL TO FILL WETLANDS AND AT BEST YOU NEED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENTs PRIOR TO ANY APPROVALS

[Bogie Shooter]

WHEN I CAME HERE THAT AREA WAS UNDER WATER AND WHERE I CAME FROM IT WAS ILLEGAL TO FILL WETLANDS AND AT BEST YOU NEED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENTs PRIOR TO ANY APPROVALS

Why are you shouting??

[Advogado]

Yes, that was 466, not 466A.

I've seen passing reference in the paper about plans to amend boundaries of CDD9. CDD9 is generally south of 466A and the eastern half of new development between 466A and 44.

But, this amendment, to be voted on by Sumter County Commissioners tonight, amends CDD9 to include approx 62 acres just south of 466 and East of Morse Blvd (roughly across from Sante Fe shopping plaza and where cows now roam).

These 62 acres will hold 335 homes. Infrastructure will be built this year. Does not include a detailed homesite or street plan.

This area was once rumored to be a hotel site. I guess, and this is only my opinion, the developer is finding it more expedient and perhaps more profitable to build and sell houses rather than more commercial development.

There was also a little blurb in the paper that Lady Lake town council rezoned a parcel across 466 from the LaZamora gate to be commercial...no tenants identified as yet but some discussion of convenience store or restaurant.

Here's a link to Sumter county commissioner meeting agenda:

http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/agendas.aspx?AGID=155

Interesting. I remember a few years ago, when I attended the CDD presentation for new residents, Pete Wahl said that The Villages would never expand beyond its then-platted boundaries because there was no more available land. I guess that is not the case anymore.

Do you have any thoughts on the effects (positive or negative), if any, of the proposed expansion on current Villages residents? I cannot think of any material effects, except it makes one wonder when the expansion will stop, if ever.

Did I miss the Daily Sun's coverage of the matter?

[Becky]

Yes- just west of the charter school, they are building a pre-school building. Charter School has pre-school now but needs those rooms for more K-4 students. Also they are adding on to the Middle School. Everything will be ready by August 2011. Dollars donated by the Morse family.

Becky

[mrfixit]

[QUOTE=Advogado;333086]Interesting. I remember a few years ago, when I attended the CDD presentation for new residents, Pete Wahl said that The Villages would never expand beyond its then-platted boundaries because there was no more available land. I guess that is not the case anymore.

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QUOTE]

Maybe that was "BEFORE" Clyde Bailey and Jack O'Dell decided to sell their ranches. Hence we have Bailey Trail and O'Dell Circle. I can think of at least three other large areas of land directly adjacent to the "current" TV properties that likely will become available to the developers of TV. Simple economics...current owner can quit working and have a big bundle of cash to boot.

[skyguy79]

Interesting. I remember a few years ago, when I attended the CDD presentation for new residents, Pete Wahl said that The Villages would never expand beyond its then-platted boundaries because there was no more available land. I guess that is not the case anymore.

Maybe that was "BEFORE" Clyde Bailey and Jack O'Dell decided to sell their ranches. Hence we have Bailey Trail and O'Dell Circle. I can think of at least three other large areas of land directly adjacent to the "current" TV properties that likely will become available to the developers of TV. Simple economics...current owner can quit working and have a big bundle of cash to boot.Is one of those areas you're talking about east of Colony Plaza in Lake Co. along 466A? Seems to be a lot of land for potential future development there.