GENIUS Act Passes

[MorTech]

The bill goes to Trump tomorrow and will be signed into law.

Stablecoin will boost demand for US Treasuries and anyone on Earth with internet access can participate. USD demand will boom whilst City of London cries. This is a good thing.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

The bill goes to Trump tomorrow and will be signed into law.

Stablecoin will boost demand for US Treasuries and anyone on Earth with internet access can participate. USD demand will boom whilst City of London cries. This is a good thing.

Shadow SEC Statement No. 6: The Not-So-GENIUS Act | CLS Blue Sky Blog (https://clsbluesky.law.columbia.edu/2025/07/14/shadow-sec-statement-no-6-the-not-so-genius-act/)


Fourth, the exemptions in the bill are far too generous. The omission of an audit requirement for issuers of up to $50 billion is in striking contrast to how even small banks are regulated. Audits are fundamental and should not be optional for any but the smallest financial firms.

Geez, just think about TVH, should they have gotten an audit to be found overcoming and reaping lots of extra fees?
crypto is just a currency with designed for secrecy, ideal for illegal activities.

definitely shades of 476AD

not participating

[Taltarzac725]

Looks like a mess waiting to happen. And we are going to need some very big buckets.

[MorTech]

XRP, USDT, USDC, and others are going to obsolete City of London Forex monopoly whilst also boosting demand for USD/US treasuries. Finally, USD can be a true world reserve currency whilst the British Pound takes a pounding. Why does one GBP cost $1.34? Forex.

[Whatnext]

Why does one GBP cost $1.34? Forex.

Why only .86 Euro to USD?
Maybe some genius is to blame.

[Maker]

One step closer to a totally cashless society. Then every transaction can be taxed. Question is - when will that happen, and to what level will the government track?

[Pugchief]

to what level will the government track?

LOL, that's the whole reason, so they can track EVERYTHING.

[MorTech]

We have been 90% cashless for more than a decade. Most USD "cash" is overseas.

CBDC is just not going to happen in the USA. It is unconstitutional and more importantly, the commercial banks will never allow it.

Pax Americana, baby!

[HappyTraveler]

We have been 90% cashless for more than a decade. Most USD "cash" is overseas.

CBDC is just not going to happen in the USA. It is unconstitutional and more importantly, the commercial banks will never allow it.

Pax Americana, baby!
I'll take your wager on that. Only a matter of time until CBDCs replace cash money.
Central Bank Digital Currency Tracker - Atlantic Council (https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/cbdctracker/)

Click on each country to read descriptive text. They're not doing all that for kicks and giggles.

[Dahabs]

The bill goes to Trump tomorrow and will be signed into law.

Stablecoin will boost demand for US Treasuries and anyone on Earth with internet access can participate. USD demand will boom whilst City of London cries. This is a good thing.

You hope. You wish. Other forces at play (massive government debt) that will drag the dollar down. Not to mention 10Y Treasuries.

[RICH1]

Crypto is Illegal in China!

[danglanzsr]

As I understand it, there are currently about 20million bitcoins outstanding out of a maximum 21 million. If the currently value of a bitcoin is, say $100,000, that would mean the total value of outstanding bitcoin is about 2 trillion dollars. Is there actually 2 trillion dollars on deposit somewhere to redeem all the bitcoin in a crisis? It seems to me any asset could only be called a stable asset if it is fully backed up.

Just wondering.

[MorTech]

Stablecoin is different than Bitcoin. Stablecoins are backed 1:1 with USD/UST. Everyone on Earth can own them and "Bank" in the USA. A one world currency (USD) and one world language (English) will make the world explode into prosperity. Pax Americana.

Our $37T debt is just not that bad with our natural and human resources in a $1000T global economy...This is the USA and not some third-world dump like Europe/UK/Africa.

Bitcoin is a digital capital asset...Like gold and real estate.

[Marmaduke]

Looks like a mess waiting to happen. And we are going to need some very big buckets.
"Genius Act" passed and was overwhelmingly bi-partisan!

[Worldseries27]

I'm just along for the ride. A long time ago someone said figures don't lie, but liars know how to figure.
Think it was moses.

[MandoMan]

The bill goes to Trump tomorrow and will be signed into law.

Stablecoin will boost demand for US Treasuries and anyone on Earth with internet access can participate. USD demand will boom whilst City of London cries. This is a good thing.

If I buy stock in GM or Chevron or Apple or Tesla, I’m buying a piece of something, a company, whether the stock goes up or down. I am helping that company, supporting it, not just milking it. If I buy gold or silver, they were mined out of the earth, and if I want, I can hold them in my hand and keep them in my safe deposit box. But crypto coins are “mined” out of what? I’ve never been able to understand the answer. What factory is helped by my investment? Why do I deserve to profit by the money I invest and the risk I take? Lots of computer transactions around the world and electricity are the “mine”? And I can’t actually hold one in my hand. It all reminds me of sleight-of-hand conjuring tricks, Ponzi schemes, sales of bridges, scams. I’d love to have my money grow that fast, but I’m worried about this. It sounds like it should be carefully regulated, and this new bill isn’t enough regulation. Plus, when it is promoted by a man whose family suddenly had billions in crypto-profits from “coins” in his honor where that money didn’t exist this time last year and will be helped a lot by this bill, I’m nervous. I didn’t buy the gold sneakers or the Bible or the virtual photos. Those were clearly scams. No crypto for me.

[Cliff Fr]

If I buy stock in GM or Chevron or Apple or Tesla, I’m buying a piece of something, a company, whether the stock goes up or down. I am helping that company, supporting it, not just milking it. If I buy gold or silver, they were mined out of the earth, and if I want, I can hold them in my hand and keep them in my safe deposit box. But crypto coins are “mined” out of what? I’ve never been able to understand the answer. What factory is helped by my investment? Why do I deserve to profit by the money I invest and the risk I take? Lots of computer transactions around the world and electricity are the “mine”? And I can’t actually hold one in my hand. It all reminds me of sleight-of-hand conjuring tricks, Ponzi schemes, sales of bridges, scams. I’d love to have my money grow that fast, but I’m worried about this. It sounds like it should be carefully regulated, and this new bill isn’t enough regulation. Plus, when it is promoted by a man whose family suddenly had billions in crypto-profits from “coins” in his honor where that money didn’t exist this time last year and will be helped a lot by this bill, I’m nervous. I didn’t buy the gold sneakers or the Bible or the virtual photos. Those were clearly scams. No crypto for me.

Why is anyone entitled to make a profit by shorting a stock?

[Boilerman]

As I understand it, there are currently about 20million bitcoins outstanding out of a maximum 21 million. If the currently value of a bitcoin is, say $100,000, that would mean the total value of outstanding bitcoin is about 2 trillion dollars. Is there actually 2 trillion dollars on deposit somewhere to redeem all the bitcoin in a crisis? It seems to me any asset could only be called a stable asset if it is fully backed up.

Just wondering.

And the USD is backed up how?

[Whatnext]

Stablecoin is different than Bitcoin. Stablecoins are backed 1:1 with USD/UST. Everyone on Earth can own them and "Bank" in the USA. A one world currency (USD) and one world language (English) will make the world explode into prosperity. Pax Americana.

Our $37T debt is just not that bad with our natural and human resources in a $1000T global economy...This is the USA and not some third-world dump like Europe/UK/Africa.

Bitcoin is a digital capital asset...Like gold and real estate.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King!

[Boilerman]

Our $37T debt is just not that bad with our natural and human resources in a $1000T global economy...This is the USA and not some third-world dump like Europe/UK/Africa.

The US national debt is a disaster. Interest payments on that debt currently take 17% of all federal expenditures and it’s more accurately at 22% when you remove the self funded social security payments from the calculations. This year, we’ll spend more on interest payments than we do the defense budget.

Going forward the numbers only get worse and once we reach a tipping point, the USD could crash, with the interest rates on the debt spiraling. The most recent tax bill accelerates all that.

[fdpaq0580]

Bitcoin is a digital capital asset...Like gold and real estate.

Gold and real estate are digital? I did not know that! Guess the matrix is real. Wish the programmer would give me a better program.

[ElDiabloJoe]

...Everyone on Earth can own them and "Bank" in the USA. A one world currency (USD) and one world language (English) will make the world explode into prosperity. Pax Americana.
...

They just can't all live here. Not enough room, not enough resources (timber, ore, oil, heavy metals, steel, etc.) to support the entire bloody world. Let them improve their own countries. Wait, they haven't done that in centuries.

[ElDiabloJoe]

If I buy stock in GM or Chevron or Apple or Tesla, I’m buying a piece of something, a company, whether the stock goes up or down. I am helping that company, supporting it, not just milking it. If I buy gold or silver, they were mined out of the earth, and if I want, I can hold them in my hand and keep them in my safe deposit box. But crypto coins are “mined” out of what? I’ve never been able to understand the answer. What factory is helped by my investment? Why do I deserve to profit by the money I invest and the risk I take? Lots of computer transactions around the world and electricity are the “mine”? And I can’t actually hold one in my hand. It all reminds me of sleight-of-hand conjuring tricks, Ponzi schemes, sales of bridges, scams. I’d love to have my money grow that fast, but I’m worried about this. It sounds like it should be carefully regulated, and this new bill isn’t enough regulation. Plus, when it is promoted by a man whose family suddenly had billions in crypto-profits from “coins” in his honor where that money didn’t exist this time last year and will be helped a lot by this bill, I’m nervous. I didn’t buy the gold sneakers or the Bible or the virtual photos. Those were clearly scams. No crypto for me.Maybe I'm old-school, maybe I'm unsophisticated, maybe I'm maladaptive, maybe I'm a luddite, but I agree with this 100%.

[tophcfa]

Maybe I'm old-school, maybe I'm unsophisticated, maybe I'm maladaptive, maybe I'm a luddite, but I agree with this 100%.

You’re not alone!

[Taltarzac725]

My problem with Bitcoin is that there seems to be very little in the area of good information about it. And it also seems to depend on current events . Not a good mixture unless you are playing a big role in how those events turn out. It just seems like the ultimate in insider trading.

[Bill14564]

Maybe I'm old-school, maybe I'm unsophisticated, maybe I'm maladaptive, maybe I'm a luddite, but I agree with this 100%.

You’re not alone!

FWIW (not much), in my mind I see it this way:

Owning Bitcoin is a bit like owning a stock. While you own a number of shares, the value goes up and down due to market influences. There are a few legitimate transactions you can make with Bitcoin but for the most part you hope to buy low and sell high.

Owning Stablecoin (there are several) is a bit like owning poker chips. In an environment that accepts them (growing?) you can use Stablecoin like money just as you can use poker chips as money within a casino. Unlike Bitcoin, the value of the Stablecoin is controlled to be be stable. When you are ready to cash out, whether chips or Stablecoin, you know that each chip/coin you own is worth the same as it did when you bought in.

Owning Memecoin is similar to owning Beanie Babies. When demand is high you can sell what you have and make money. When there is an owner-only convention you can buy your way in. You can hold them as long as you want but when the novelty wears off you have a curiosity piece. On the other hand, if you are part of the production or sales chain you make money regardless of the value.

As a consumer, I don't see much difference between Stablecoin and a Debit Card. Both tie back to a number representing my wealth in US dollars and both allow me to make transactions without carrying cash. I'm sure there are long articles or even books on why I should trust a USD-backed Stablecoin over a USD-funded bank account but I haven't taken the time to be persuaded.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

https://x.com/Hannibal9972485/status/1946378909622194685

������Pay attention this GENIUS act wants your dollars sitting in stablecoins to silently fund U.S. debt…through enforced reserve purchases of Treasuries.
This is monetized surveillance and passive taxation wrapped in fintech packaging.

Basically the U.S. Treasury needs to sell trillions of dollars in bonds to fund deficits.
•Right now, China and Japan are backing away from buying more U.S. debt.
•The Fed is tapering its purchases too.
•So they need a new buyer: YOU, via your stablecoin.

Stablecoins are being redesigned as a passive debt-purchase mechanism.

This is what they mean when they say:

“Every digital dollar will create *trillions in demand for the Treasury.”
It’s not metaphor. It’s a debt trap disguised as digital innovation.
http://1.You buy a stablecoin (Bank of America Coin, CircleUSD, etc.)
2.That issuer — a “Permitted Payment Stablecoin Issuer” (PPSI) — is legally required to hold 1:1 reserves for every coin.
3.Where do they hold those reserves?
Not under a mattress. Not in cash.
→ They’re buying short-term U.S. Treasuries (T-bills, notes, etc.)
4.The bigger the stablecoin market, the bigger the pile of T-bill demand.

The GENIUS Act would basically force every dollar of digital cash to support the U.S. government’s debt.

You’re Being Turned Into a Bond-Backed Hostage Without Consent

Your Money Becomes Illiquid and Government-Controlled

When stablecoin reserves are forced into U.S. Treasuries:
•Your digital dollars are no longer “backed by cash” — they’re backed by government IOUs.
•You can’t redeem instantly if the Treasury market freezes (like in March 2020).
•You don’t control the yield. You don’t earn the interest. The issuer or bank does.

Translation: Your dollar’s sitting in jail earning interest for someone else.

You’re Funding the Government — Without Voting On It

This turns your stablecoin use into passive debt funding for:
•Endless wars
•Bailouts for megabanks
•Surveillance infrastructure (like IRS snooping or digital IDs)

All without legislation, vote, or consent.

You’re now a non-consensual bond buyer just for holding “digital cash.”

They’ll now have a financial motive to:
•Ban algorithmic coins (like DAI/RAI) that don’t support bond buying.
•Kill Bitcoin/ETH usage as stable alternatives.
•Force everyone onto “compliant” rails where bond buying is mandatory.

The system becomes addicted to your stablecoin being a bond buyer. That’s permanent economic capture.

⸻

More Neutral Money — It’s All Politicized

A real dollar — paper or bank cash — is neutral.

A stablecoin forced into Treasuries is:
•Politically tied
•Debt-dependent
•Surveillance-prone
•Built on yield extraction

You lose neutrality. You’re tied to whatever policies the Treasury supports.

This Creates a Hidden Layer of Risk That Could Blow Up

If stablecoin issuers only hold Treasuries, and rates spike or buyers vanish (like in 2023 mini-crises):
•The coins can de-peg if there’s a redemption run.
•Issuers could go under due to mark-to-market losses.
•That loss gets socialized to YOU, the holder — not the issuer.

They’re hijacking your digital dollars to:
•Fund a debt-addicted system,
•Remove your monetary agency,
•Deny you interest or yield,
•Force you onto rails they control.

You don’t get safety. You get surveillance-backed debt peonage.
This is financial servitude hiding under the word “stable.”

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Stable coins are just lousy bank accounts…

“he thinks most USD-backed stablecoins are really just deposit accounts on which the depositor is paid no interest nor other consideration, but whose sponsor is able to generate net interest income by investing the deposited assets (typically in highly liquid and very short-duration assets), just like a typical checking account, but without FDIC insurance.”

-Morgan Stanley Research

[fdpaq0580]

This is financial servitude hiding under the word “stable.”[/QUOTE]

Not hiding. Stable = the place you will end up sleeping. In the stable. 🙂🙃🫠 Such fun.

[Pugchief]

Stable coins are just lousy bank accounts…

“he thinks most USD-backed stablecoins are really just deposit accounts on which the depositor is paid no interest nor other consideration, but whose sponsor is able to generate net interest income by investing the deposited assets (typically in highly liquid and very short-duration assets), just like a typical checking account, but without FDIC insurance.”

-Morgan Stanley Research

I get what he is saying, but it doesn't seem all that different than cash or treasuries other than the additional control by the elites.

If you have $ in an account and the market freezes, you have no access. If the bank shuts down, you have no access. Etc.

I had a TradeKing account in 2008. Their MM sweep was The Reserve Fund, one of the largest, most well-respected funds available. When the financial crisis happened, Reserve "broke the buck" (NAV no longer $1.00) and a large sum of my money was locked up for months while the mess was sorted out. How is that any different?

I will also agree with the poster who commented that a digital currency backed by a USD that doesn't itself have anything backing it, is essentially no backing.

As to the casino chip analogy, not bad, until you realize that the chips are only good as long as the casino is willing to redeem them and that you can't spend them anywhere except at that casino. Will Publix accept casino chips for bread, eggs and milk?

[fdpaq0580]

"It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it."

Thank you. Thank you very much!

[Pballer]

Are we going back to the 1800s where each bank issued its own paper money currency (stable coin) supposedly backed by gold or silver (USD or treasury bills)? I see that banks (JP Morgan, Citi Bank) are already talking about issuing their own stable coins. It didn't turn out too well in the 1800s.

[Whatnext]

""This is the USA and not some third-world dump like Europe/UK/Africa.""

Some folks need to get out, travel, and find out how third world Europe/UK are.
In many respect they lead, and US follows.

[MorTech]

Crypto is Illegal in China!

...And yet, the Chinese people are one of the largest Bitcoin holders.

[MorTech]

If I buy stock in GM or Chevron or Apple or Tesla, I’m buying a piece of something, a company, whether the stock goes up or down. I am helping that company, supporting it, not just milking it. If I buy gold or silver, they were mined out of the earth, and if I want, I can hold them in my hand and keep them in my safe deposit box. But crypto coins are “mined” out of what? I’ve never been able to understand the answer. What factory is helped by my investment? Why do I deserve to profit by the money I invest and the risk I take? Lots of computer transactions around the world and electricity are the “mine”? And I can’t actually hold one in my hand. It all reminds me of sleight-of-hand conjuring tricks, Ponzi schemes, sales of bridges, scams. I’d love to have my money grow that fast, but I’m worried about this. It sounds like it should be carefully regulated, and this new bill isn’t enough regulation. Plus, when it is promoted by a man whose family suddenly had billions in crypto-profits from “coins” in his honor where that money didn’t exist this time last year and will be helped a lot by this bill, I’m nervous. I didn’t buy the gold sneakers or the Bible or the virtual photos. Those were clearly scams. No crypto for me.

You don't understand what Stablecoins are...It will bring huge amounts of investment capital to the USA. Everyone on Earth can bank in USA Stablecoins mostly to escape their collapsing currency created by their thieving governments. Europe (EU) publicly announced that they are going to steal everyone's bank accounts in order to "Invest" the money. Every European with a brain will be trading their saved Euro trash (hard to believe that anyone has "savings" in Europe) for Stablecoins...Or better, self-custody Bitcoin.

The EU Borg Collective is going to force CBDC in Oct 2025. Got Stablecoin/Bitcoin?

GENIUS indeed.

[MorTech]

And the USD is backed up how?

By a military-backed digital printing press :)

Imagine if you could type whatever number you want into your own bank account :)

WooHoo!!! Hooter's every night!!!

[MorTech]

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King!

In the real world, the most high IQ and technologically advanced is King!

[MorTech]

The US national debt is a disaster. Interest payments on that debt currently take 17% of all federal expenditures and it’s more accurately at 22% when you remove the self funded social security payments from the calculations. This year, we’ll spend more on interest payments than we do the defense budget.

Going forward the numbers only get worse and once we reach a tipping point, the USD could crash, with the interest rates on the debt spiraling. The most recent tax bill accelerates all that.

Yeah...It's not good but not a disaster. You want a criminal disaster, just look at the government-infested Sickcare industry.

Lucky for us, the USD is the cleanest shirt in the hamper...Or best horse at the glue factory :)

With Stablecoin, I suspect the USD will obsolete all other criminal fiat over time.

[MorTech]

Gold and real estate are digital? I did not know that! Guess the matrix is real. Wish the programmer would give me a better program.

Wut?

[MorTech]

They just can't all live here. Not enough room, not enough resources (timber, ore, oil, heavy metals, steel, etc.) to support the entire bloody world. Let them improve their own countries. Wait, they haven't done that in centuries.

For perspective, If you placed everyone in the world in Texas, Texas would have the same population density of Paris, France.

Pax Americana means spreading individualism and free association and markets to the globe (an end to collectivist slavery). If you are born high IQ in a third-world dump you would want to leave for America.

[MorTech]

My problem with Bitcoin is that there seems to be very little in the area of good information about it. And it also seems to depend on current events . Not a good mixture unless you are playing a big role in how those events turn out. It just seems like the ultimate in insider trading.

See Michael Saylor and Adam Livingston on Youtube. Also Lyn Alden is brilliant.

[MorTech]

https://x.com/Hannibal9972485/status/1946378909622194685

������Pay attention this GENIUS act wants your dollars sitting in stablecoins to silently fund U.S. debt…through enforced reserve purchases of Treasuries.
This is monetized surveillance and passive taxation wrapped in fintech packaging.

Basically the U.S. Treasury needs to sell trillions of dollars in bonds to fund deficits.
•Right now, China and Japan are backing away from buying more U.S. debt.
•The Fed is tapering its purchases too.
•So they need a new buyer: YOU, via your stablecoin.

Stablecoins are being redesigned as a passive debt-purchase mechanism.

This is what they mean when they say:

“Every digital dollar will create *trillions in demand for the Treasury.”
It’s not metaphor. It’s a debt trap disguised as digital innovation.
http://1.You buy a stablecoin (Bank of America Coin, CircleUSD, etc.)
2.That issuer — a “Permitted Payment Stablecoin Issuer” (PPSI) — is legally required to hold 1:1 reserves for every coin.
3.Where do they hold those reserves?
Not under a mattress. Not in cash.
→ They’re buying short-term U.S. Treasuries (T-bills, notes, etc.)
4.The bigger the stablecoin market, the bigger the pile of T-bill demand.

The GENIUS Act would basically force every dollar of digital cash to support the U.S. government’s debt.

You’re Being Turned Into a Bond-Backed Hostage Without Consent

Your Money Becomes Illiquid and Government-Controlled

When stablecoin reserves are forced into U.S. Treasuries:
•Your digital dollars are no longer “backed by cash” — they’re backed by government IOUs.
•You can’t redeem instantly if the Treasury market freezes (like in March 2020).
•You don’t control the yield. You don’t earn the interest. The issuer or bank does.

Translation: Your dollar’s sitting in jail earning interest for someone else.

You’re Funding the Government — Without Voting On It

This turns your stablecoin use into passive debt funding for:
•Endless wars
•Bailouts for megabanks
•Surveillance infrastructure (like IRS snooping or digital IDs)

All without legislation, vote, or consent.

You’re now a non-consensual bond buyer just for holding “digital cash.”

They’ll now have a financial motive to:
•Ban algorithmic coins (like DAI/RAI) that don’t support bond buying.
•Kill Bitcoin/ETH usage as stable alternatives.
•Force everyone onto “compliant” rails where bond buying is mandatory.

The system becomes addicted to your stablecoin being a bond buyer. That’s permanent economic capture.

⸻

More Neutral Money — It’s All Politicized

A real dollar — paper or bank cash — is neutral.

A stablecoin forced into Treasuries is:
•Politically tied
•Debt-dependent
•Surveillance-prone
•Built on yield extraction

You lose neutrality. You’re tied to whatever policies the Treasury supports.

This Creates a Hidden Layer of Risk That Could Blow Up

If stablecoin issuers only hold Treasuries, and rates spike or buyers vanish (like in 2023 mini-crises):
•The coins can de-peg if there’s a redemption run.
•Issuers could go under due to mark-to-market losses.
•That loss gets socialized to YOU, the holder — not the issuer.

They’re hijacking your digital dollars to:
•Fund a debt-addicted system,
•Remove your monetary agency,
•Deny you interest or yield,
•Force you onto rails they control.

You don’t get safety. You get surveillance-backed debt peonage.
This is financial servitude hiding under the word “stable.”

That's the system all of humanity has been suffering under for 400 years...Debt-based and criminal fiat currency. Bitcoin is the only escape but it will take some more time.

Stablecoin creates huge demand for USD...potentially 8 billion people. The fiat USD is the best horse in the glue factory.

[MorTech]

Stable coins are just lousy bank accounts…

“he thinks most USD-backed stablecoins are really just deposit accounts on which the depositor is paid no interest nor other consideration, but whose sponsor is able to generate net interest income by investing the deposited assets (typically in highly liquid and very short-duration assets), just like a typical checking account, but without FDIC insurance.”

-Morgan Stanley Research

Not "lousy" if you are residing/banking outside the USA in a third-world dump where the criminal government just steals all your money via taxes and inflation and "bank holidays"/devaluation. People in Argentina/Venezuela/Europe/Africa and almost everywhere else would love a "lousy" USA Stablecoin. All fiat currencies are heading to zero value by their very nature. The USD value collapse is *FAR* slower than every other currency.

[MorTech]

""This is the USA and not some third-world dump like Europe/UK/Africa.""

Some folks need to get out, travel, and find out how third world Europe/UK are.
In many respect they lead, and US follows.

The City of London/MI6 still has control of the traitor-class in DC but with SOFR destoying LIBOR and XRP/Stablecoin, they will loose. We (And Canada) will finally be free of the colonial slavers/Communists of Europe.

[MorTech]

Are we going back to the 1800s where each bank issued its own paper money currency (stable coin) supposedly backed by gold or silver (USD or treasury bills)? I see that banks (JP Morgan, Citi Bank) are already talking about issuing their own stable coins. It didn't turn out too well in the 1800s.

Stablecoin is USD/UST. At least we have a digital ledger instead of trusting a banker and his locked vault :) We can watch almost real-time M2 money supply :) Yes, fiat currency is criminal but it will take some more time for a critical mass of people to figure it out.

[Whatnext]

The City of London/MI6 still has control of the traitor-class in DC but with SOFR destoying LIBOR and XRP/Stablecoin, they will loose. We (And Canada) will finally be free of the colonial slavers/Communists of Europe.

:1rotfl:

[Boilerman]

Yeah...It's not good but not a disaster. You want a criminal disaster, just look at the government-infested Sickcare industry.

Lucky for us, the USD is the cleanest shirt in the hamper...Or best horse at the glue factory :)

With Stablecoin, I suspect the USD will obsolete all other criminal fiat over time.

Give it 15 years, debt has doubled, interest takes a third of the federal budget and the smart money abandons the USD. The Govt fires up the printing press, inflation routinely runs at 10% and everyone runs for the hills. Maybe bitcoin becomes the new reserve currency.

[Pugchief]

""This is the USA and not some third-world dump like Europe/UK/Africa.""

Some folks need to get out, travel, and find out how third world Europe/UK are.
In many respect they lead, and US follows.

The only thing they are leading is the race to collapse. Currency and society.

Talk about Good Luck to Us!

[Lottoguy]

Bitcoin is what tulips were in the year 1637. A fool and his money are soon departed.

[Boilerman]

Bitcoin is what tulips were in the year 1637. A fool and his money are soon departed.

Yes! A fool and his money (bitcoin profits) are soon departed (on his yacht to his private Caribbean island)!

[Nell57]

Bitcoin is what tulips were in the year 1637. A fool and his money are soon departed.

Here’s the difference. Tulips can be propagated indefinitely. Thousands of bulbs…..a wide number of varieties. It is more analogous to the US dollar. Need more? Print more.
Bitcoin is finite at 21 million. 13% have been lost due to mishandling by early investors.
400 years from now there will still be that same finite number of Bitcoin.

[Lottoguy]

Tax the rich more fairly and you can knock down the debt. It’s not rocket science.

[Lottoguy]

Epstein had a yacht and an island. How did that work out? The vast majority of billionaires made their money using illegal tactics.

[MorTech]

Give it 15 years, debt has doubled, interest takes a third of the federal budget and the smart money abandons the USD. The Govt fires up the printing press, inflation routinely runs at 10% and everyone runs for the hills. Maybe bitcoin becomes the new reserve currency.

Like all fiat currency, the USD will eventually fail...But where will the smart money go if the USD is the global currency? To another criminal fiat currency controlled/issued by...Who? Bitcoin is the only alternative to criminal fiat...It has no issuer and has an open-source ledger and is capped at 21M and is indestructible and is global. Trade in USD - Save in Bitcoin.

[MorTech]

Bitcoin is what tulips were in the year 1637. A fool and his money are soon departed.

OK, Boomer.

[MorTech]

Tax the rich more fairly and you can knock down the debt. It’s not rocket science.

The upper 10% pay close to 85% of all taxes...How much more is fair? Take all their assets and you might be able to fund FedGov for 10 months...Then we all starve to death because those 10% produce about 80% of everything.

[MorTech]

Epstein had a yacht and an island. How did that work out? The vast majority of billionaires made their money using illegal tactics.

Can you give some examples? The ill-gotten fortunes are almost always created by government criminality - laws/bribes/money printing.

[MorTech]

The UK is a dump with a monopoly Forex racket and a 400 year old criminal banking system. That system is finally coming to an end and the GBP will collapse. Heck, even CAD should be more valuable than GBP in reality.

[Bill14564]

The upper 10% pay close to 85% of all taxes...How much more is fair? Take all their assets and you might be able to fund FedGov for 10 months...Then we all starve to death because those 10% produce about 80% of everything.

Your math is just a bit off.

The top 10% pay about 70% of income taxes. It's the top 25%, those making over $100K, that pay 85% of income taxes.

I'm confident we aren't going to starve because the upper 10% stop growing and picking food.

[MorTech]

I'm confident we aren't going to starve because the upper 10% stop growing and picking food.

We will all be going back to subsistence farming and expect nobody to starve? Seriously?

Killing off the upper 10% would be similar to turning off the entire banking system. Care to make a guesstimate on the population of the USA after 6 months if either of those occurred? A lot of Americans have enough fat on them to survive maybe 3 months :) I doubt you will find someone willing to trade their can of Spam for a wheelbarrow full of paper with dead Presidents on them or a shiny gold/silver rock. Where will you find clean drinking water?

Don't forget, the upper 10% create most of the jobs...that create taxpayers.

[MorTech]

Plus, the rich aren't stupid...They all have self-custody Bitcoin in case the Proles try to eat them :)

[MorTech]

FYI - USDT (Tether) already has 400M users. USD Stablecoin will bank 5B non-citizens very quickly :)

[MorTech]

From AI -Japan has announced plans to adopt XRP for nationwide payments by the end of 2025, a move that could revolutionize cross-border transactions and accelerate the adoption of blockchain technology in finance.

[Boilerman]

Epstein had a yacht and an island. How did that work out? The vast majority of billionaires made their money using illegal tactics.

Not to defend Epstein, but it’s thought he made his money legally. It was his sick hobbies that sent him to prison.

[MorTech]

Here’s the difference. Tulips can be propagated indefinitely. Thousands of bulbs…..a wide number of varieties. It is more analogous to the US dollar. Need more? Print more.
Bitcoin is finite at 21 million. 13% have been lost due to mishandling by early investors.
400 years from now there will still be that same finite number of Bitcoin.

Amazing that people have still not figured out that the USD (as well as all fiat) is the greatest Ponzi scheme the world has ever seen. Bitcoin is actually the anti-Ponzi. MSTR and Metaplanet spins Ponzi fiat into scarce digital gold.

[MorTech]

Almost every conflict and global scam on Earth can be traced back to the City of London. They know their days are numbered and will lash out even more to maintain their criminal grip. India knows. Pakistan knows. Iran knows. Israel knows. Russia really knows. China knows...Who the real enemy is.

Do you really think Russia and China are our enemies? They are not. They are just rivals.

Soros is a top lieutenant for the City of London and as much as I loathe the nation state and want open society, global communism is not the answer...Pax Americana is! Reagan and Bessent are heroes.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Almost every conflict and global scam on Earth can be traced back to the City of London. They know their days are numbered and will lash out even more to maintain their criminal grip. India knows. Pakistan knows. Iran knows. Israel knows. Russia really knows. China knows...Who the real enemy is.

Do you really think Russia and China are our enemies? They are not. They are just rivals.

Soros is a top lieutenant for the City of London and as much as I loathe the nation state and want open society, global communism is not the answer...Pax Americana is! Reagan and Bessent are heroes.

Trying to galvanize support by creating a fictitious enemy? No matter your arguments, I am not buying it as a better answer for the US economy.

For all stablecoins authorized in the US, it must be backed by US Treasury offering. Why? Because the BBB (big beautiful bill) just authorized a ginormous spending increase while the demand for US Treasury offerings are declining.

So the stable coin scheme is a way to finance the US treasury ever increasing need for debt financing. ie, a savings account for US Treasury with no interest, for the luxury of digital spending? A digital coin based upon US Treasury's buying is still belief in "fiat" currency. . as the relationship is still 1 to 1 and requires backing of the US Dollar with treasury instruments.

What the Genius act pushers are selling without acknowledging the potential, is that there can be a US stable coin buyers strike, or liquidation, for currently unknown reasons, but most likely it will be the same reason, lack of adequate security reasons which may result in coin theft in large proportions, wreaking havoc on the demand for digital coins. .

If the US dollar continues to fall, then wanting US stable coins by foreigners will be in decline, no different than Zimbabwe stable coins, when Zimbabwe currency was falling into banana republic levels. . .

It's a government gamble on grifting the rest of the world into buying US treasuries to maintain the US huge debt growth. If the US debt and expected growth and tax reductions doesn't produce the economic results expected, and so far, the past historical attempts haven't produced the results expected, the "poof" of digital coins might be US Dollar threatening for the US treasury and the US Dollar, upon which the US stable coins are based. .

Turkey tried the populist very low interest rate strategy and the lira lost a very large percentage of value, relative to other economies. . so be careful for what you wish for in a quick fix solution. . .

[Whatnext]

Almost every conflict and global scam on Earth can be traced back to the City of London. They know their days are numbered and will lash out even more to maintain their criminal grip. India knows. Pakistan knows. Iran knows. Israel knows. Russia really knows. China knows...Who the real enemy is.

Do you really think Russia and China are our enemies? They are not. They are just rivals.

Soros is a top lieutenant for the City of London and as much as I loathe the nation state and want open society, global communism is not the answer...Pax Americana is! Reagan and Bessent are heroes.

Are you actually Mr. QAnon?

[MorTech]

""This is the USA and not some third-world dump like Europe/UK/Africa.""

Some folks need to get out, travel, and find out how third world Europe/UK are.
In many respect they lead, and US follows.

The few productive people have 75% of their earnings stolen from them by the many voting parasites. Is that something we should emulate?

I lived in that dump for many years.

[MorTech]

Are you actually Mr. QAnon?

Ahh, You got me! Yer sooo smart! Yer a GENIUS!

[MorTech]

Trying to galvanize support by creating a fictitious enemy? No matter your arguments, I am not buying it as a better answer for the US economy.

For all stablecoins authorized in the US, it must be backed by US Treasury offering. Why? Because the BBB (big beautiful bill) just authorized a ginormous spending increase while the demand for US Treasury offerings are declining.

So the stable coin scheme is a way to finance the US treasury ever increasing need for debt financing. ie, a savings account for US Treasury with no interest, for the luxury of digital spending? A digital coin based upon US Treasury's buying is still belief in "fiat" currency. . as the relationship is still 1 to 1 and requires backing of the US Dollar with treasury instruments.

What the Genius act pushers are selling without acknowledging the potential, is that there can be a US stable coin buyers strike, or liquidation, for currently unknown reasons, but most likely it will be the same reason, lack of adequate security reasons which may result in coin theft in large proportions, wreaking havoc on the demand for digital coins. .

If the US dollar continues to fall, then wanting US stable coins by foreigners will be in decline, no different than Zimbabwe stable coins, when Zimbabwe currency was falling into banana republic levels. . .

It's a government gamble on grifting the rest of the world into buying US treasuries to maintain the US huge debt growth. If the US debt and expected growth and tax reductions doesn't produce the economic results expected, and so far, the past historical attempts haven't produced the results expected, the "poof" of digital coins might be US Dollar threatening for the US treasury and the US Dollar, upon which the US stable coins are based. .

Turkey tried the populist very low interest rate strategy and the lira lost a very large percentage of value, relative to other economies. . so be careful for what you wish for in a quick fix solution. . .

All global commodities are priced in USD.
What other fiat can take the place of USD?
The value is to bypass costly foreign exchange/delays and local currency theft for those outside USA.
This will strengthen dollar demand globally.

"Galvanize Support" "Fictitious Enemy"...Wut? All fiat is a criminal Ponzi and debt is it's very nature...It is loaned into existence at interest. The City of London/BoE is a criminal fiat mafia and has been stealing from everyone for 400 year. I Don't care about anyone's "Support".

USDT has 400M users...They must be fools.

[MorTech]

Anyhoo...The point is...Stablecoin is going to seriously boost demand for USD/UST whilst obsoleting every other fiat currency and boost economic activity globally. Invest accordingly. I wish you all a tenbagger or two!

Geeez...LOL. Boomers make me laugh.

[ElDiabloJoe]

I'm not saying that someone in this thread, especially the last page or two, is coming off as a possibly unhinged individual, so I won't say it. But yeah. Perhaps an indication of an onset of a memory condition? I mean, that's where I've seen it before.

[MorTech]

I'm not saying that someone in this thread, especially the last page or two, is coming off as a possibly unhinged individual, so I won't say it. But yeah. Perhaps an indication of an onset of a memory condition? I mean, that's where I've seen it before.

OK, Boomer. Go back to your television.

[ElDiabloJoe]

OK, Boomer. Go back to your television.

I'm probably younger than you. I'm Gen-X. So, do you even live here or are you on the forum to troll for elderly suckers to invest in your interests? Ohhhh, I see. You're an engineer and maybe a chemist, so you have spent your whole life in a cubicle or a self-imposed Asperger's bubble. All theory and academic and little practical experience. Now I get it.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

I see engineers in finance and economics not be very successful all the time.

Engineers are very linear and logical, because engineering has rules and equations that are rigid, and don't/can't change.
FInance and economics are human behaviors and human concepts, not bounded by rules and equations, but estimate by historical observations which have very wide standards of deviation as compared to engineering, and large outliers occur, though infrequently

It's the exception for an engineer who can transition from the fixed physical systems to the human system of the behavior of handling money. . the human system is very non linea, very counter intuitive, and has lots of outliers and failures. .

[Boilerman]

I see engineers in finance and economics not be very successful all the time.

Engineers are very linear and logical, because engineering has rules and equations that are rigid, and don't/can't change.
FInance and economics are human behaviors and human concepts, not bounded by rules and equations, but estimate by historical observations which have very wide standards of deviation as compared to engineering, and large outliers occur, though infrequently

It's the exception for an engineer who can transition from the fixed physical systems to the human system of the behavior of handling money. . the human system is very non linea, very counter intuitive, and has lots of outliers and failures. .

My experience is the exact opposite. I worked with engineers my entire career and most were excellent investors because they were smart enough to do the required analysis yet able to remain unemotional during market crashes. Most engineers I worked with retired in their mid 50s with ample retirement savings. That’s partially because they were well paid, but mostly because they managed their investments well.

[tophcfa]

I see engineers in finance and economics not be very successful all the time.

Engineers are very linear and logical, because engineering has rules and equations that are rigid, and don't/can't change.
FInance and economics are human behaviors and human concepts, not bounded by rules and equations, but estimate by historical observations which have very wide standards of deviation as compared to engineering, and large outliers occur, though infrequently

It's the exception for an engineer who can transition from the fixed physical systems to the human system of the behavior of handling money. . the human system is very non linea, very counter intuitive, and has lots of outliers and failures. .

I worked with lots of actuaries. They sure could pass complicated exams and crunch numbers with the best of them. On the other hand, they tended to wear loafers because they couldn’t figure out how to tie the shoelaces on traditional shoes.