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Ruger2506
07-29-2025, 05:14 PM
Turns out what we all knew is true. Wakeboards are disruptive and damaging. Tim’s to abolish wakeboating on FL lakes including Minona.

Study raises new questions over Minnesota lakes and wakesurfing | MPR News (https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/07/29/study-raises-new-questions-over-minnesota-lakes-and-wakesurfing)

BrianL99
07-29-2025, 05:35 PM
Turns out what we all knew is true. Wakeboards are disruptive and damaging. Tim’s to abolish wakeboating on FL lakes including Minona.

Study raises new questions over Minnesota lakes and wakesurfing | MPR News (https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/07/29/study-raises-new-questions-over-minnesota-lakes-and-wakesurfing)

Let's eliminate all boating and recreational sports ... let's go back to living like folks did in the 1700's. Would that work?

Ruger2506
07-29-2025, 06:57 PM
I would love that. I’m praying for the solar flare that wipes out all technology. I’d happily leave suburbia for my remote land and live peacefully without 4-wheelers and side by sides and boats buzzing around.

tophcfa
07-29-2025, 09:07 PM
Let's eliminate all boating and recreational sports ... let's go back to living like folks did in the 1700's. Would that work?

I would love that. I’m praying for the solar flare that wipes out all technology. I’d happily leave suburbia for my remote land and live peacefully without 4-wheelers and side by sides and boats buzzing around.

Be careful what you wish for. Hunting and fishing are also considered recreational sports. I’m guessing you wouldn’t be happy if those were eliminated, I know I wouldn’t be.

Ruger2506
07-29-2025, 09:20 PM
Country folks will survive. When it all goes down, we will be on top persevering as we know how to feed our own and live off the land. Plus hunting is a constitutional right in many states including FL.

Plus let’s remember. Hunting and fishing protect and restore habitat and wildlife. Per the research, wakeboarding destroys habitat.

PilotAlan
07-30-2025, 07:03 AM
[QUOTE=Ruger2506;2449483]I’m praying for the solar flare that wipes out all technology. I’d happily leave suburbia for my remote land and live peacefully /QUOTE]

You do realize that half of all people born before the Industrial Revolution died before 35?
The technology (clean water, sanitation, vaccines, medications, refrigeration, etc) is only reason most of use here are still alive.

Bill14564
07-30-2025, 07:22 AM
Country folks will survive. When it all goes down, we will be on top persevering as we know how to feed our own and live off the land. Plus hunting is a constitutional right in many states including FL.

Plus let’s remember. Hunting and fishing protect and restore habitat and wildlife. Per the research, wakeboarding destroys habitat.

Yep, no better way to protect a deer than to shoot it in the head. History is full of examples of hunting being protective and restorative - only in history though since the species were protected into extinction.

Watermen on the Chesapeake Bay wanted to preserve the crab population by reducing the number of Rockfish that were feeding on the eggs. Fortunately, the state imposed a moratorium on taking rockfish far a few years until the population recovered.

I enjoyed hunting when I was young but too much of anything is bad.

gorillarick
07-30-2025, 07:44 AM
I would love that. I’m praying for the solar flare that wipes out all technology. I’d happily leave suburbia for my remote land and live peacefully without 4-wheelers and side by sides and boats buzzing around.
Yeah !
You be the first one to switch-off your air conditioner. That's a good start.

OrangeBlossomBaby
07-30-2025, 08:02 AM
No pesticides, no weedkillers. Restore the natural beauty of Florida by letting it all grow wild. And for god's sake, no more planting "grass" on "lawns" in Central Florida! Let whatever grows, grow. Leave it to Mother Nature, that's her job.

ElDiabloJoe
07-30-2025, 08:59 AM
This will be the answer to your prayers:
The New Luddites. More must be done to establish a middle… | by Joseph Park | Digital Architecture Lab | Medium (https://medium.com/digital-architecture-lab/the-new-luddites-65c50851c4b7)

Ruger2506
07-30-2025, 10:28 AM
This will be the answer to your prayers:
The New Luddites. More must be done to establish a middle… | by Joseph Park | Digital Architecture Lab | Medium (https://medium.com/digital-architecture-lab/the-new-luddites-65c50851c4b7)

Love it.

I've already got my answer. My deep woods Canadian Border property has no cell service, no phone service, etc. It's heavenly.

MandoMan
07-31-2025, 04:30 AM
Turns out what we all knew is true. Wakeboards are disruptive and damaging. Tim’s to abolish wakeboating on FL lakes including Minona.

Study raises new questions over Minnesota lakes and wakesurfing | MPR News (https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/07/29/study-raises-new-questions-over-minnesota-lakes-and-wakesurfing)

“ Researchers concluded that in depths of 9 feet and 14 feet, the forces created by wake boats operating in surfing mode stir up sediment — tiny particles of sand, silt, clay and organic matter — from the lake bottom and suspend them in the water, turning it cloudy. That makes it more difficult for sunlight to penetrate, potentially affecting fish and plants.

Sediment also contains phosphorus, which can spur the growth of algae blooms that turn the lake green.

The report recommends that while operating in surfing mode — a slower speed that creates a large wake — boats should stay in at least 20 feet of water. That’s twice as deep as the recommendation in a study backed by the boating industry.”

RickyLee
07-31-2025, 07:06 AM
I would love that. I’m praying for the solar flare that wipes out all technology. I’d happily leave suburbia for my remote land and live peacefully without 4-wheelers and side by sides and boats buzzing around.

There are other countries that you could do that without the solar flare. But, you may have to give up your 25 ought 6 and go back to Spears and throwing rocks to bring home your dinner. Just saying

DeLunatics
07-31-2025, 07:10 AM
Love it.

I've already got my answer. My deep woods Canadian Border property has no cell service, no phone service, etc. It's heavenly.


I'm sure it is.

Guess you expect to be there when it happens.

Otherwise that's a long walk, for a not-young person, through tens of millions of desperate people, from here.

BrianL99
07-31-2025, 07:18 AM
Love it.

I've already got my answer. My deep woods Canadian Border property has no cell service, no phone service, etc. It's heavenly.

Apparently not so much or you'd be there right now ... not spending time on social media.

Pat_RI
07-31-2025, 08:45 AM
They are a kayakers nightmare I’m all for banning them in lakes but it’s too big of an industry now.

Joecooool
07-31-2025, 08:49 AM
No pesticides, no weedkillers. Restore the natural beauty of Florida by letting it all grow wild. And for god's sake, no more planting "grass" on "lawns" in Central Florida! Let whatever grows, grow. Leave it to Mother Nature, that's her job.Wish they would let me bulldoze my grass and lay down rock.

Velvet
07-31-2025, 09:36 AM
Yes, but, but … when I want to really get back to nature I go camping.

Nellmack
07-31-2025, 09:45 AM
I was surprised the article didn't go into the potential damage to local docks and other boats. I have a home with a dock in the area where wakeboarders go back and forth all day. The waves are giant and unending and the dock shakes all day long. Big waves pounding anything regularly is a bad situation so common sense tells me something is being damaged or the life span of the dock is being reduced. I obviously didn't do a study but I know boating and big waves = not good.

Taltarzac725
07-31-2025, 09:54 AM
Not sure how much that article about the mostly natural likes Minnesota relates to the mostly artificial lakes in the Villages and wakeboarding. Those Minnesota lakes have probably had thousands of years to develop their natural environment. I am way older than most of artificial lakes in the Villages.


Good article though. Kudos to the U of MN. Huge school. One of my three Alma maters. I donate small amounts to their law school where I was Class of 1989 every so often. Also dabbled in various languages while working in their law library. Completed some courses in German, Dutch and Italian . And sat in on a few lessons in Chinese and Japanese. Dropped Russian. They did have courses in many languages.


List of United States public university campuses by enrollment - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_public_university_campuses_b y_enrollment)

jimjamuser
07-31-2025, 12:16 PM
No pesticides, no weedkillers. Restore the natural beauty of Florida by letting it all grow wild. And for god's sake, no more planting "grass" on "lawns" in Central Florida! Let whatever grows, grow. Leave it to Mother Nature, that's her job.
One thing that I know that is related to this subject is that grass produces much less oxygen than trees and hedges. Also, trees and hedges create more cover for songbirds. Trees and hedges produce a greater cooling effect than grass does. Transpiration by trees and hedges provides a cooling effect for both land and air.

jimjamuser
07-31-2025, 12:35 PM
I was surprised the article didn't go into the potential damage to local docks and other boats. I have a home with a dock in the area where wakeboarders go back and forth all day. The waves are giant and unending and the dock shakes all day long. Big waves pounding anything regularly is a bad situation so common sense tells me something is being damaged or the life span of the dock is being reduced. I obviously didn't do a study but I know boating and big waves = not good.
I worry about the fish populations and possible increase in green algae.

Taltarzac725
07-31-2025, 04:18 PM
Lake Agassiz - Wikipedia Lake Agassiz - Wikipedia (https://share.google/ik5lVWvScOuSOpg1C)


There was a huge lake in Northern Minnesota and central Canada from the melting of the Ice Age glaciers called Lake Agassiz . I wonder if there was an wakeboarding? Maybe not even any ancient Americans there as yet .

asianthree
07-31-2025, 04:55 PM
Aren’t all bodies of water in Florida just couple feet of brown/green water with weed & predator infested muck bottom. Wake boarding couldn’t do much damage.

Torch Lake in Michigan has wakeboard rules. Then again it’s pristine body of water, that residents living on the lake make sure nothing changes the quality of living on the lake.

Taltarzac725
07-31-2025, 05:10 PM
Lake Tahoe probably has wakeboarding but it is often very cold and is very deep. One of the things I really miss about the Reno, Nevada area is Lake Tahoe .


Lake Tahoe Watersports - Waterki, Wakeboard & Wakesurf School https://share.google/CPKxKHMeWYhQYslbs

Jayhawk
07-31-2025, 07:00 PM
I I’d happily leave suburbia for my remote land and live peacefully without 4-wheelers and side by sides and boats buzzing around.

What's stopping you?

Topspinmo
08-01-2025, 08:32 AM
Let's eliminate all boating and recreational sports ... let's go back to living like folks did in the 1700's. Would that work?

I agree, lake Minona should be trolling motor only. Actually be better to back couple thousand years. :BigApplause:

Ruger2506
08-01-2025, 09:28 PM
What's stopping you?
1 year, 11 months and 8 days until my contractual obligation is complete with this employer. Then I'm gone.