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The Gazette
07-30-2025, 09:00 PM
The Lady Lake Police Department cracked down on speeding and aggressive driving last week through a traffic enforcement campaign aimed at reducing speed-related crashes. From Monday, July 14 until Sunday, July 20, officers dedicated about 80 hours to traffic enforcement. In the end, officers issues 91 written warnings for speeding and 59 citations—of the citations,

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ldturecek
07-31-2025, 04:18 AM
Wish Sumter Cty would run radar on Buena Vista. I drove out to Mulberry Yesterday, they were passing me going at least 50 at around 7:45 am.

golfing eagles
07-31-2025, 04:29 AM
Wish Sumter Cty would run radar on Buena Vista. I drove out to Mulberry Yesterday, they were passing me going at least 50 at around 7:45 am.

The better question would be: Why is the speed limit on this 4-lane divided boulevard with no intersections and forced slowdowns for roundabouts ONLY 35? Before answering, consider this: 466 and 466A are also, for the most part, divided 4 lane highways that have intersections and vehicles exiting parking lots, yet the speed limit there is 45. I have long suspected the only reason was to allow "street legal" golf carts to use those roads, which is a really, really BAD reason on a number of levels.

BillyGrown
07-31-2025, 05:41 AM
The better question would be: Why is the speed limit on this 4-lane divided boulevard with no intersections and forced slowdowns for roundabouts ONLY 35? Before answering, consider this: 466 and 466A are also, for the most part, divided 4 lane highways that have intersections and vehicles exiting parking lots, yet the speed limit there is 45. I have long suspected the only reason was to allow "street legal" golf carts to use those roads, which is a really, really BAD reason on a number of levels.

I certainly wouldn’t want to be the driver or a passenger in one of those carts if it got hit by a car or a truck doing 35mph.

golfing eagles
07-31-2025, 05:54 AM
I certainly wouldn’t want to be the driver or a passenger in one of those carts if it got hit by a car or a truck doing 35mph.

I think most people have finally realized that. 12 years ago, a cart on Morse or BV was a common sight. Now, I haven't seen one in recent memory.

ThirdOfFive
07-31-2025, 06:21 AM
The Lady Lake Police Department cracked down on speeding and aggressive driving last week through a traffic enforcement campaign aimed at reducing speed-related crashes. From Monday, July 14 until Sunday, July 20, officers dedicated about 80 hours to traffic enforcement. In the end, officers issues 91 written warnings for speeding and 59 citations—of the citations,

More... (https://www.gazettenewsthevillages.com/lady-lake-police-department-issues-over-100-warnings-and-citations-in-campaign-reminding-drivers-to-slow-down/)
Instead of just one week...shouldn't this be a 52 week per year effort?

BillyGrown
07-31-2025, 06:28 AM
I think most people have finally realized that. 12 years ago, a cart on Morse or BV was a common sight. Now, I haven't seen one in recent memory.

The roads have gotten busier and more congested. Historically, in many cases bicycles or horses at one time were permitted to be peddled or ridden on certain roads. Later, those roads became freeways and turnpikes and that mode of transportation is now illegal.

Permissions have to change with the times.

golfing eagles
07-31-2025, 06:28 AM
Instead of just one week...shouldn't this be a 52 week per year effort?

Not a bad idea----as long as at least half the time they ticket the slugs tooling along in the left lane at 20 mph---equally in violation of Florida traffic law

ThirdOfFive
07-31-2025, 06:34 AM
Not a bad idea----as long as at least half the time they ticket the slugs tooling along in the left lane at 20 mph---equally in violation of Florida traffic law
Concur.

Bob Myles
07-31-2025, 06:48 AM
I think most people have finally realized that. 12 years ago, a cart on Morse or BV was a common sight. Now, I haven't seen one in recent memory.

You must not drive North Morse Blvd. very often. We see them on the road all the time usually driving through the South Gate heading to Sumter Landing.

golfing eagles
07-31-2025, 07:09 AM
You must not drive North Morse Blvd. very often. We see them on the road all the time usually driving through the South Gate heading to Sumter Landing.

You do realize that you have to merge left and cross the northbound lanes if you are headed south. Also, the cart and bike lane parallels the road. I'm talking about carts on BV and Morse south of 466,

Babbs1957
07-31-2025, 07:31 AM
Separate MMP on Morse and BV south of 466. North of 466, not only are they on the same road, but the actual lane for carts is about 48" wide with a 12" concrete gutter and a 5" wide white painted stripe. So technically if you really pay attention you can get your cart in the lane while a car is passing you at 50mph. This assumes the driver of the car can stay perfectly in their lane while a truck is coming the opposite way. Of course, the concrete gutter is slightly lower, so it pulls the cart into the curb. Luckily, the youngest people in TV live in this area so their vision, hearing and reflexes are tip top. NOT!

GATORBILL66
07-31-2025, 07:43 AM
The better question would be: Why is the speed limit on this 4-lane divided boulevard with no intersections and forced slowdowns for roundabouts ONLY 35? Before answering, consider this: 466 and 466A are also, for the most part, divided 4 lane highways that have intersections and vehicles exiting parking lots, yet the speed limit there is 45. I have long suspected the only reason was to allow "street legal" golf carts to use those roads, which is a really, really BAD reason on a number of levels.

We are mostly retired, no rush to get anywhere!

jimhoward
07-31-2025, 08:45 AM
The better question would be: Why is the speed limit on this 4-lane divided boulevard with no intersections and forced slowdowns for roundabouts ONLY 35? Before answering, consider this: 466 and 466A are also, for the most part, divided 4 lane highways that have intersections and vehicles exiting parking lots, yet the speed limit there is 45. I have long suspected the only reason was to allow "street legal" golf carts to use those roads, which is a really, really BAD reason on a number of levels.

I agree that is the likely reason for the low speed limit. Its a Villages thing. Some dark, narrow 2-lane country roads in the area have 55 MPH speed limits. Those roads are scary. The Villages is easy-peasy. I drive fairly slowly, more or less at speed limit, but somebody going down a main Villages thoroughfare at 50 MPH or more doesn't phase me a bit.

MrFlorida
07-31-2025, 08:47 AM
The better question would be: Why is the speed limit on this 4-lane divided boulevard with no intersections and forced slowdowns for roundabouts ONLY 35? Before answering, consider this: 466 and 466A are also, for the most part, divided 4 lane highways that have intersections and vehicles exiting parking lots, yet the speed limit there is 45. I have long suspected the only reason was to allow "street legal" golf carts to use those roads, which is a really, really BAD reason on a number of levels.

Because this is a retirement community and not a speedway.

Fenster
07-31-2025, 09:00 AM
What’s the rush? Leave a little earlier and maybe save someone’s life, such as your own.
The tailgaters and speed demons who blow by when people are already doing 70+ now seem to have infected The Villages.

FrostyBear
07-31-2025, 10:02 AM
The better question would be: Why is the speed limit on this 4-lane divided boulevard with no intersections and forced slowdowns for roundabouts ONLY 35? Before answering, consider this: 466 and 466A are also, for the most part, divided 4 lane highways that have intersections and vehicles exiting parking lots, yet the speed limit there is 45. I have long suspected the only reason was to allow "street legal" golf carts to use those roads, which is a really, really BAD reason on a number of levels.

It’s a residential area with housing on each side of road as opposed to the 45 mph areas with green areas to each side, and 55 mph areas with woods and farms on each side of the road.

Taltarzac725
07-31-2025, 10:13 AM
Lots of speeding in the Villages of late. It seems that a majority of cars and golf carts are going ten or more miles per hour over it. I am stuck in my governor controlled golf cart going 19.8 or lower. And I often have a train of impatient golf cart drivers behind me.

SrRicky
07-31-2025, 10:41 AM
Not sure were all these tickets and citations were issued but it certainly was not on Hwy 441 in Lady Lake. That highway is a racetrack and I seldom see a patrol car on that roadway let alone stopping someone for speeding. Also, why are they issuing warnings instead of citations? Kind of a waste of time isn't it.

golfing eagles
07-31-2025, 11:17 AM
Because this is a retirement community and not a speedway.

By that reasoning, let's make every road, boulevard, 466A and 466 15 mph. After all, "we're retired, what's the rush"?

golfing eagles
07-31-2025, 11:21 AM
It’s a residential area with housing on each side of road as opposed to the 45 mph areas with green areas to each side, and 55 mph areas with woods and farms on each side of the road.

There are no "houses on either side of the road" on BV, Morse south of 466, El Camino Real and Meggison. There are no intersections. You must slow down for RBs. And 466 and 466A are "green on either side"??? On what planet???? 466A, 466 have significant commercial development with intersections and cars exiting parking lots, yet the speed limit is 45. I wonder what community the person who posted that lives in.

shut the front door
07-31-2025, 11:27 AM
Not a bad idea----as long as at least half the time they ticket the slugs tooling along in the left lane at 20 mph---equally in violation of Florida traffic law

They could pay the entire dept's salary for a month by sitting on 466 and ticketing all those going 30 in a 45. But be sure and ticket the left lane losers first!

BillyGrown
07-31-2025, 11:29 AM
Why just do the speed enforcement for looks? Why not sustain traffic enforcement till traffic slows down?

Taltarzac725
07-31-2025, 11:31 AM
They could pay the entire dept's salary for a month by sitting on 466 and ticketing all those going 30 in a 45. But be sure and ticket the left lane losers first!

I do not see that many peoples going under the speed limit unless they are having car or truck problems.

golfing eagles
07-31-2025, 11:32 AM
Why just do the speed enforcement for looks? Why not sustain traffic enforcement till traffic slows down?

No problem, you pay for it.

ThirdOfFive
07-31-2025, 12:09 PM
No problem, you pay for it.
Yeah, we do.

But here's an idea...I'll bet there are quite a few LEOs living in TV. Maybe some of them might be interested in getting back into the game as contracted (not employed) traffic cops. Their entire job would be to patrol TV for speeders, left-lane lolligaggers, stop light/sign runners, etc. etc. But instead of paying them a wage, they get a portion of all the fines levied against the people they catch breaking the traffic laws.

Joe Taxpayer doesn't get stuck with the bill for anything, we get better traffic control and the regular officers get freed up for other police work. Win-win.

jimjamuser
07-31-2025, 12:49 PM
They really should do more of that enforcement. And it would be more important in the winter with more traffic than in the summer

TroubleMaker!
07-31-2025, 01:20 PM
The better question would be: Why is the speed limit on this 4-lane divided boulevard with no intersections and forced slowdowns for roundabouts ONLY 35? Before answering, consider this: 466 and 466A are also, for the most part, divided 4 lane highways that have intersections and vehicles exiting parking lots, yet the speed limit there is 45. I have long suspected the only reason was to allow "street legal" golf carts to use those roads, which is a really, really BAD reason on a number of levels.
Ever try riding a bicycle from Buena Vista to Lowes or Publix on 466A ? Not for the faint of heart, trust me.

golfing eagles
07-31-2025, 05:10 PM
Ever try riding a bicycle from Buena Vista to Lowes or Publix on 466A ? Not for the faint of heart, trust me.

Why would anyone want to?????

RUCdaze
07-31-2025, 06:00 PM
Amazing how these people who want the cops to give out tickets aren't so enthused after they get stopped. The fact is, the speed limits here in The Villages are too low. They may be low to hold people to drive within a more reasonable speed. But if that's the case, don't hold people to the letter of the law.

Normal
07-31-2025, 07:31 PM
Sumter county just needs to install speed cameras, then the problem is solved. Mt Dora has them and they really have cut down on speeding problems. The camera and computers do all the work.

MicRoDrafting
08-01-2025, 06:09 AM
The better question would be: Why is the speed limit on this 4-lane divided boulevard with no intersections and forced slowdowns for roundabouts ONLY 35?
Before answering, consider this: 466 and 466A are also, for the most part, divided 4 lane highways that have intersections and vehicles exiting parking lots, yet the speed limit there is 45.

STRAIGHT vs CURVED Corridors

this difference can be easily
observed using Google Maps

the 2 primary corridors that run north and south thru the original Village communities, namely, Buena Vista and Morse from SR 42 down to SR 44 were purposely constructed to curve and bend from one end to the other with the use of Roundabouts as a Transportation Engineering means of “TRAFFIC CALMING”

Be mindful that we have Roundabouts
approx every 3/4 miles apart - even
closer in some areas.

Could you imagine how many
“REDUCED SPEED AHEAD”
signs would actually need to
be posted up and down those
roadways to accommodate 45 mph

ENJOY the SCENERY
and be COURTEOUS

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 06:36 AM
STRAIGHT vs CURVED Corridors

this difference can be easily
observed using Google Maps

the 2 primary corridors that run north and south thru the original Village communities, namely, Buena Vista and Morse from SR 42 down to SR 44 were purposely constructed to curve and bend from one end to the other with the use of Roundabouts as a Transportation Engineering means of “TRAFFIC CALMING”

Be mindful that we have Roundabouts
approx every 3/4 miles apart - even
closer in some areas.

Could you imagine how many
“REDUCED SPEED AHEAD”
signs would actually need to
be posted up and down those
roadways to accommodate 45 mph

ENJOY the SCENERY
and be COURTEOUS

The "curves" on BV and Morse are minimal at best

Bodrum
08-01-2025, 06:37 AM
[QUOTE=The Gazette;2449706]The Lady Lake Police Department cracked down on speeding and aggressive driving last week through a traffic enforcement campaign aimed at reducing speed-related crashes. From Monday, July 14 until Sunday, July 20, officers dedicated about 80 hours to traffic enforcement. In the end, officers issues 91 written warnings for speeding and 59 citations—of the citations,

More... (https://www.gazettenewsthevillages.com/lady-lake-police-department-issues-over-100-warnings-and-citations-in-campaign-reminding-drivers-to-slow-down/)[/QUOT
Heck with a warning citations, you’re speeding you deserve a ticket

Worldseries27
08-01-2025, 06:44 AM
yeah, we do.

But here's an idea...i'll bet there are quite a few leos living in tv. Maybe some of them might be interested in getting back into the game as contracted (not employed) traffic cops. Their entire job would be to patrol tv for speeders, left-lane lolligaggers, stop light/sign runners, etc. Etc. But instead of paying them a wage, they get a portion of all the fines levied against the people they catch breaking the traffic laws.

Joe taxpayer doesn't get stuck with the bill for anything, we get better traffic control and the regular officers get freed up for other police work. Win-win.
until retired dirty harry
chases down stand your ground
larry

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 06:53 AM
[QUOTE=The Gazette;2449706]The Lady Lake Police Department cracked down on speeding and aggressive driving last week through a traffic enforcement campaign aimed at reducing speed-related crashes. From Monday, July 14 until Sunday, July 20, officers dedicated about 80 hours to traffic enforcement. In the end, officers issues 91 written warnings for speeding and 59 citations—of the citations,

More... (https://www.gazettenewsthevillages.com/lady-lake-police-department-issues-over-100-warnings-and-citations-in-campaign-reminding-drivers-to-slow-down/)[/QUOT
Heck with a warning citations, you’re speeding you deserve a ticket

Florida LEO policy is that 1-5 mph over the speed limit you receive a warning, but that could be changed. Please get caught going 35.1 in a 35 zone because you're speeding and "deserve" a ticket.

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 06:55 AM
Yeah, we do.

But here's an idea...I'll bet there are quite a few LEOs living in TV. Maybe some of them might be interested in getting back into the game as contracted (not employed) traffic cops. Their entire job would be to patrol TV for speeders, left-lane lolligaggers, stop light/sign runners, etc. etc. But instead of paying them a wage, they get a portion of all the fines levied against the people they catch breaking the traffic laws.

Joe Taxpayer doesn't get stuck with the bill for anything, we get better traffic control and the regular officers get freed up for other police work. Win-win.

until retired dirty harry
chases down stand your ground
larry

Yep, what could possibly go wrong with that idea :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bill14564
08-01-2025, 07:03 AM
Florida LEO policy is that 1-5 mph over the speed limit you receive a warning, but that could be changed. Please get caught going 35.1 in a 35 zone because you're speeding and "deserve" a ticket.

Not a policy, state law: 318.18(3). As you wrote, can be changed.

It will turn into a fine if the speeding was within a special zone such as a school zone.

Aces4
08-01-2025, 07:08 AM
Yep, what could possibly go wrong with that idea :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

It's difficult for me to believe someone in a lifesaving occupation is pressing for higher speeds and speeding allowances. Living in an old age community requires adjustments for everyone since the level of cognizance and capabilites vary so much as we age. Why not leave with enough time to drive the speed limit, enjoy the day and relax. We're all not going to drive that much longer, why not make the most of it and look out for each other?:beer3:

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 07:36 AM
It's difficult for me to believe someone in a lifesaving occupation is pressing for higher speeds and speeding allowances. Living in an old age community requires adjustments for everyone since the level of cognizance and capabilites vary so much as we age. Why not leave with enough time to drive the speed limit, enjoy the day and relax. We're all not going to drive that much longer, why not make the most of it and look out for each other?:beer3:

Perhaps my posts have not been well stated. I don’t speed and I don’t advocate speeding. But I equally disdain those that lollygag on our roads, especially in the left lane, which is also against the law. I don’t care if they have “cognitive decline”, if you are a poor driver who can’t keep up with 35 on BV, then you are probably deficient in many other areas of driving skills as well and time to get off the road. But I still maintain that if anything over 35 on the boulevards is too fast, then 45 on 466/466A is too fast as well.

Sandy and Ed
08-01-2025, 07:56 AM
Perhaps to force people to use alternate north south routes and then access the local east west roads further north or south? Given the age of the average resident/retired person (not the contractor, regardless of residency status, who may be more interested in a higher speed limit on this well traveled road) in my opinion the speed limits are perfect as they exist now.

Sandy and Ed
08-01-2025, 07:59 AM
STRAIGHT vs CURVED Corridors

this difference can be easily
observed using Google Maps

the 2 primary corridors that run north and south thru the original Village communities, namely, Buena Vista and Morse from SR 42 down to SR 44 were purposely constructed to curve and bend from one end to the other with the use of Roundabouts as a Transportation Engineering means of “TRAFFIC CALMING”

Be mindful that we have Roundabouts
approx every 3/4 miles apart - even
closer in some areas.

Could you imagine how many
“REDUCED SPEED AHEAD”
signs would actually need to
be posted up and down those
roadways to accommodate 45 mph

ENJOY the SCENERY
and be COURTEOUS
Excellent. Well said!!!!

Switter
08-01-2025, 08:00 AM
I agree that is the likely reason for the low speed limit. Its a Villages thing. Some dark, narrow 2-lane country roads in the area have 55 MPH speed limits. Those roads are scary. The Villages is easy-peasy. I drive fairly slowly, more or less at speed limit, but somebody going down a main Villages thoroughfare at 50 MPH or more doesn't phase me a bit.

I also noticed that about these rural roads. SE Hwy 42 and 475 on the west side of 301 are two good examples. They are 55 miles an hour, have driveways coming out everywhere, and no shoulders. I rarely ever drive 55 miles an hour on these roads and I'm not a slower driver. In fact, I rarely ever have anybody riding my butt when I'm doing 10 miles under the speed limit, so a lot of people must feel the same way.

I am OK with the speed limits in the villages. I've been here 2 1/2 years and I am beginning to instinctively know that it takes longer to go somewhere because of the speed limits.

Buena Vista could probably easily handle 45 miles an hour since there's no golf carts allowed, same with El Camino Real, but then everybody would be driving 60 miles an hour.

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 08:04 AM
I also noticed that about these rural roads. SE Hwy 42 and 475 on the west side of 301 are two good examples. They are 55 miles an hour, have driveways coming out everywhere, and no shoulders. I rarely ever drive 55 miles an hour on these roads and I'm not a slower driver. In fact, I rarely ever have anybody riding my butt when I'm doing 10 miles under the speed limit, so a lot of people must feel the same way.

I am OK with the speed limits in the villages. I've been here 2 1/2 years and I am beginning to instinctively know that it takes longer to go somewhere because of the speed limits.

Buena Vista could probably easily handle 45 miles an hour since there's no golf carts allowed, same with El Camino Real, but then everybody would be driving 60 miles an hour.

Unfortunately, "street legal" golf carts ARE allowed, which is why I believe the speed limit was purposely set low at 35 on those roads.

Switter
08-01-2025, 08:21 AM
Unfortunately, "street legal" golf carts ARE allowed, which is why I believe the speed limit was purposely set low at 35 on those roads.

Ahh, I didn't consider that. I don't know if I've ever seen one on either of those roads.

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 08:25 AM
Ahh, I didn't consider that. I don't know if I've ever seen one on either of those roads.

12 years ago they were fairly common, but I haven't seen one in the last year or 2. I suppose those that thought it was a great idea to take a golf cart that can legally go 25 out on a highway where trucks are frequently going 45+ have either thought better of it or are no longer alive.

BillyGrown
08-01-2025, 09:26 AM
Not a policy, state law: 318.18(3). As you wrote, can be changed.

It will turn into a fine if the speeding was within a special zone such as a school zone.

Over 55 communities could get the distinction as a “special zone” just like construction and school zones. If fines were doubled it, might be beneficial for everyone. Quite a few politicians would love take credit for writing or passing such a law.

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 09:55 AM
Over 55 communities could get the distinction as a “special zone” just like construction and school zones. If fines were doubled it, might be beneficial for everyone. Quite a few politicians would love take credit for writing or passing such a law.

Only those that aren't planning on running for elected office EVER again.

DrMack
08-01-2025, 10:18 AM
Over 55 communities could get the distinction as a “special zone” just like construction and school zones. If fines were doubled it, might be beneficial for everyone. Quite a few politicians would love take credit for writing or passing such a law.

I certainly would back that. Our community is special and golf carts are often sharing the road. Further, many walk and ride bicycles in sensitive areas. It would be a great law and ideal for the villages.

Bill14564
08-01-2025, 10:27 AM
Over 55 communities could get the distinction as a “special zone” just like construction and school zones. If fines were doubled it, might be beneficial for everyone. Quite a few politicians would love take credit for writing or passing such a law.

Sure, and let's make it a felony as well with a minimum sentence of two years in prison and a lifetime revocation of driving privileges. OR, we could stop asking to live in a police state, take some personal responsibility, and pay attention to our surroundings.

No one worries about the fine, doubled or not. There was a joke about the signs in PA that listed the fines increasing as the speed increased: "What, does he think he makes more than me?"

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 10:34 AM
Sure, and let's make it a felony as well with a minimum sentence of two years in prison and a lifetime revocation of driving privileges. OR, we could stop asking to live in a police state, take some personal responsibility, and pay attention to our surroundings.

No one worries about the fine, doubled or not. There was a joke about the signs in PA that listed the fines increasing as the speed increased: "What, does he think he makes more than me?"

And again, how many times have I told you not to make rational thoughtful posts when responding to, well let's just politely call them zealots

DrMack
08-01-2025, 10:40 AM
Sure, and let's make it a felony as well with a minimum sentence of two years in prison and a lifetime revocation of driving privileges. OR, we could stop asking to live in a police state, take some personal responsibility, and pay attention to our surroundings.

No one worries about the fine, doubled or not. There was a joke about the signs in PA that listed the fines increasing as the speed increased: "What, does he think he makes more than me?"

Why the hyperbole? The poster only suggested giving senior citizens a safer place to live by doubling speeding fines with a zoned designation. I find exaggerating of another’s good idea somewhat childish. Stick with the script.

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 10:50 AM
Why the hyperbole? The poster only suggested giving senior citizens a safer place to live by doubling speeding fines with a zoned designation. I find exaggerating of another’s good idea somewhat childish. Stick with the script.

I would agree with that plan, IF they also doubled the fines for chugging alone at 20 in a 35 zones, especially in the left lane. Statistically, that driver is far more dangerous than the speeders, so maybe quadruple their fine.

Bill14564
08-01-2025, 10:58 AM
Why the hyperbole? The poster only suggested giving senior citizens a safer place to live by doubling speeding fines with a zoned designation. I find exaggerating of another’s good idea somewhat childish. Stick with the script.

I find declaring a 55+ community a zone requiring special safety enforcement typically reserved for schools and work zones an unnecessary exaggeration. And as I also wrote, no one cares what the fine is anyway. (have you once thought, "Hey, it's only a $50 ticket, I guess I'll drive 14 miles over the speed limit"?)

Protect children who don't know any better than to run out into traffic? Sure, make traffic slow down to increase the chance of stopping before hitting a child.

Protect road workers who don't have any choice but to work next to speeding traffic? Sure, make traffic slow down to hopefully make drivers pay more attention to the road.

Protect grown adults who don't pay attention and walk down the middle of the street as if there was no traffic at all? Or those who ride bicycles as if they own the streets? Or those who just pay absolutely no attention at all to what they are doing? No, safety is a shared responsibility for grown adults. As a driver I will do what I can to avoid you but it won't be my speed that causes you injury, it will be you, a grown adult, doing stupid things.

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 11:01 AM
I find declaring a 55+ community a zone requiring special safety enforcement typically reserved for schools and work zones an unnecessary exaggeration. And as I also wrote, no one cares what the fine is anyway. (have you once thought, "Hey, it's only a $50 ticket, I guess I'll drive 14 miles over the speed limit"?)

Protect children who don't know any better than to run out into traffic? Sure, make traffic slow down to increase the chance of stopping before hitting a child.

Protect road workers who don't have any choice but to work next to speeding traffic? Sure, make traffic slow down to hopefully make drivers pay more attention to the road.

Protect grown adults who don't pay attention and walk down the middle of the street as if there was no traffic at all? Or those who ride bicycles as if they own the streets? Or those who just pay absolutely no attention at all to what they are doing? No safety is a shared responsibility for grown adults. As a driver I will do what I can to avoid you but it won't be my speed that causes you injury, it will be you, a grown adult, doing stupid things.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

shut the front door
08-01-2025, 11:02 AM
:bigbow:
I find declaring a 55+ community a zone requiring special safety enforcement typically reserved for schools and work zones an unnecessary exaggeration. And as I also wrote, no one cares what the fine is anyway. (have you once thought, "Hey, it's only a $50 ticket, I guess I'll drive 14 miles over the speed limit"?)

Protect children who don't know any better than to run out into traffic? Sure, make traffic slow down to increase the chance of stopping before hitting a child.

Protect road workers who don't have any choice but to work next to speeding traffic? Sure, make traffic slow down to hopefully make drivers pay more attention to the road.

Protect grown adults who don't pay attention and walk down the middle of the street as if there was no traffic at all? Or those who ride bicycles as if they own the streets? Or those who just pay absolutely no attention at all to what they are doing? No safety is a shared responsibility for grown adults. As a driver I will do what I can to avoid you but it won't be my speed that causes you injury, it will be you, a grown adult, doing stupid things.

Michael G.
08-01-2025, 11:19 AM
Instead of just one week...shouldn't this be a 52 week per year effort?

That was my thought also.
And why not statewide.

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 11:21 AM
That was my thought also.
And why not statewide.

Or nationwide??? Or worldwide???? After all, the most important issues in law enforcement are catching someone going 40 in a 35 zone in Outer Mongolia.

fdpaq0580
08-01-2025, 12:02 PM
Instead of just one week...shouldn't this be a 52 week per year effort?

One can only hope.

fdpaq0580
08-01-2025, 12:05 PM
Or nationwide??? Or worldwide???? After all, the most important issues in law enforcement are catching someone going 40 in a 35 zone in Outer Mongolia.

You're cute when you're angry. 😉

golfing eagles
08-01-2025, 12:35 PM
You're cute when you're angry. 😉

I know 😂😂😂

Although in this case I’d characterize it as being dismayed

cthherod@gmail.com
08-01-2025, 06:08 PM
Wish Sumter Cty would run radar on Buena Vista. I drove out to Mulberry Yesterday, they were passing me going at least 50 at around 7:45 am.

Or, let’s just ticket the left lane dawdlers who try to block anyone going faster than they are. IMO, more accidents are caused by slowpokes vs speeders. A speed limit of 35 mph on Buena Vista or Morse Blvd is ludicrous. No driveways (except for fire stations), so why the low speed limit? And if 45-50 is too much for some, please surrender your license. You don’t need to drive anymore.

MicRoDrafting
08-01-2025, 10:03 PM
Buena Vista could probably easily handle 45 miles an hour since there's no golf carts allowed, same with El Camino Real, but then everybody would be driving 60 miles an hour.

EXACTLY
the last thing we need
is a raceway thru a
retirement community

Normal
08-02-2025, 06:00 AM
Or, let’s just ticket the left lane dawdlers who try to block anyone going faster than they are. IMO, more accidents are caused by slowpokes vs speeders. A speed limit of 35 mph on Buena Vista or Morse Blvd is ludicrous. No driveways (except for fire stations), so why the low speed limit? And if 45-50 is too much for some, please surrender your license. You don’t need to drive anymore.

Exceptions would be where there are only two lanes. Of course people have the right to turn left at an intersection or turn right for that matter. Then we have the traffic circles which generally dictate traveling in the left lane for going straight or in the right lane for turning. And of course there are A LOT of traffic circles in the Villages with no set pattern of occurring frequency in place.

golfing eagles
08-02-2025, 08:12 AM
Or, let’s just ticket the left lane dawdlers who try to block anyone going faster than they are. IMO, more accidents are caused by slowpokes vs speeders. A speed limit of 35 mph on Buena Vista or Morse Blvd is ludicrous. No driveways (except for fire stations), so why the low speed limit? And if 45-50 is too much for some, please surrender your license. You don’t need to drive anymore.

Not just in your opinion, but there are many studies by both law enforcement and the insurance industry that show just that. (yes, there are studies that show speeding causes more accidents as well). But those studies that blame speed fail to account for the fact that the snail is usually not directly involved in the accident, they are nonetheless the cause. What I fail to understand is why any driver that is chugging along well under the speed limit wants to camp out in the left lane (which btw is in violation of Florida traffic law). Are they oblivious???? Ignorant of the law???? Demented???? Or, similar to this guy from a post on TOTV about 7 years ago. This clown posted that he always drives 30 in the left lane of the 45 mph zone of 466 because "he thinks that's fast enough". Unbelievable, both then and now. HE knows better than the traffic experts and civil engineers. HE gets to make up his own speed and then try to shove it down everybody else's throat. HE is the self-appointed pace setter. Now, while the word "entitled" is often used on TOTV, this bozo is the quintessential example. I hope he is still on TOTV and reads this, because I have 2 words for him, and they are not "Happy Birthday", and while they sound similar, it is not "thank you".

BillyGrown
08-03-2025, 05:31 AM
Fortunately there are now laws against aggressive driving. Be aware though, the behavior can be triggered in the unbalanced through those who tend to follow all the traffic rules because an aggressive driver’s personality is often egocentric. Some can even believe rules are just general guideline and not set in stone for them. They tend to believe the center of the universe is all about their needs! LOL

Facts:
Key Factors in Accidents:
Aggressive Driving: Includes behaviors such as speeding, tailgating, and road rage. These actions significantly increase the risk of collisions.
Slow Driving: While it can lead to accidents, particularly in high-speed areas, it is generally less dangerous than aggressive driving. Slow drivers may cause frustration but are less likely to engage in risky maneuvers.
Statistics:
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), aggressive driving contributes to a substantial percentage of traffic accidents.
Studies indicate that speeding and reckless driving are leading causes of fatal crashes.
Conclusion: While both slow and aggressive driving can lead to accidents, aggressive driving is a more significant factor in serious incidents.

golfing eagles
08-03-2025, 05:57 AM
Fortunately there are now laws against aggressive driving. Be aware though, the behavior can be triggered in the unbalanced through those who tend to follow all the traffic rules because an aggressive driver’s personality is often egocentric. Some can even believe rules are just general guideline and not set in stone for them. They tend to believe the center of the universe is all about their needs! LOL

Facts:
Key Factors in Accidents:
Aggressive Driving: Includes behaviors such as speeding, tailgating, and road rage. These actions significantly increase the risk of collisions.
Slow Driving: While it can lead to accidents, particularly in high-speed areas, it is generally less dangerous than aggressive driving. Slow drivers may cause frustration but are less likely to engage in risky maneuvers.
Statistics:
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), aggressive driving contributes to a substantial percentage of traffic accidents.
Studies indicate that speeding and reckless driving are leading causes of fatal crashes.
Conclusion: While both slow and aggressive driving can lead to accidents, aggressive driving is a more significant factor in serious incidents.

And yet there are other studies that show the cause to be slow drivers. Many studies that blame speed fail to account for the root cause of an accident----a lane being blocked by a slug forcing other vehicles to change lanes. Most accidents on highways that are not alcohol related are the result of a lane change. Also, that post lumps speed in with other forms of aggressive driving. In a perfect world, all vehicles are proceeding at the speed limit and blow kisses to each other. Don't hold your breath

Polarlys
08-03-2025, 06:21 AM
We live along the El Camino corridor and have seen street legal carts using it. I have only seen a couple in the past 4 years. That makes it very rare but they are out there. In fact I have also seen a "couple" of non street legal ones. Personally I don't think of it as being a "Big Deal" but just responding to the statement about it.